In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

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Fellow Seibertronian Logan has taken the time to go through all the known issues and pitfalls of the latest offering in the Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece line: MP-36 Megatron. They have shared thoughts on all of the previously reported problems for the figure, from double faces, to paint chipping, to actual breakage, in order to help out fellow collectors - and yours truly has translated those thoughts into English. Read all about them below, and let us know if you've found anything else, or if none of these apply to you!

Some have reported double faces in the selection, but nothing like that in my box.

Paint at the base of the arm for the fusion cannon: you need to insert the weapon without sliding against the base, but directly applying pressure on the tabs. No paint chipping occurs after a number of attempts.

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Overall: no paint defects, solid articulation.

The real issue is the silencer: even clipping it on with extreme caution, it chipped away some paint. Looking at it more closely, you can see the tracks in the silencer: they're not smooth, they're slightly raised and have 'cutting' edges, the real culprits for the paint chipping.

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

I restored the colouring with a sharpie, and took care of the cause: removed 4 screws and took out the attachment inside. The attachment is what clips to the gun's nozzle (making it harder to remove it later, which can cause the breakage) and pushes its outer side against the non-smooth parts of the silencer. So I removed the culprit (below), with the result of a silencer which is slightly less stable but with no paint chipping issues whatsoever.

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

The riskiest part of the transformation (which I imagine is what has lead to the legs breaking in some photos circulating online) is the bringing together of the hips to form the gun's handle: behind the hip joint, there is a screw that needs loosening a little, to ease the swinging of the parts.

There is indeed a neck, you just need to rotate the head upwards.

There are some delicate passage in the transformation from gun to robot, too, where a handy tool (screwdriver or small lever) can come in useful, as you take the same steps backwards. Transformed carefully a number of times, and no issues here.

Despite these necessary cautions, I can only welcome Megs in my home; the engineering, aesthetics, and figure overall are extremely pleasing. ^^


Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

Transformers News: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong

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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1872998)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 9th, 2017 @ 6:43am CDT
So let's make this simple, what are the direct questions and concerns you all may have about this figure? I promise an un biased answer to the best of my ability.
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873001)
Posted by Kurona on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:15am CDT
Okay, this is unrelated to the figure itself in a way especially since it'll be ages before I can get him; but I'm curious in general: we all know the laws around toy guns are a little frustrating, but how about when you're taking him somewhere else? Like, say, moving house? Even going outside your country on a plane? Anyone know how toy gun laws would restrict you there if you were taking him?
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873009)
Posted by Cobotron on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:49am CDT
Not sure why moving would be a problem? Put it in a box, load it in a truck, and off you go.
As for transporting on an airplane, not sure other countries laws, but I'm pretty sure in the US you can check firearms in checked baggage, but you MUST declare it to the airline and accompanied by proper legal documentation. Even if they found it, and saw it was a toy, I'm sure it would cause trouble.
But I don't own any firearms nor would I travel with them if I did, so I don't know for sure. Best bet would be to make the airline aware of it. They take that stuff hella seriously!
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873017)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on April 9th, 2017 @ 9:04am CDT
I actually discussed this same thing and even posted the same fix for the barrel a couple days ago. Though this guys pics are way better then mine
https://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/how-to-preemptively-fix-masterpiece-megatron-t108972.php
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873018)
Posted by Logan. on April 9th, 2017 @ 9:05am CDT
Update: I recommend to polish the internal accessory parts to not press too

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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873023)
Posted by Logan. on April 9th, 2017 @ 9:50am CDT
Work in progress ;)

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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873037)
Posted by Sideswipe79 on April 9th, 2017 @ 10:53am CDT
Finally Meg reach my home. Is good, but the paint is so delicate!



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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873050)
Posted by Rated X on April 9th, 2017 @ 11:12am CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:So let's make this simple, what are the direct questions and concerns you all may have about this figure? I promise an un biased answer to the best of my ability.


So if I was to buy this figure right now....list the steps and precautionary fixes I can perform right out of the box to prevent breakage and chipping. The article posted now tells everything to do in such a random order and fails to provide pictures of the infamous leg screw that needs to be loosened. I also hope that in the future somebody who is expierenced with the figure can post a youtube video and perform all the fixes right out the box without even trying to play with the figure. That would be of great help. BBTS or a company who can afford to experiment with a figure should put this out for the people. I guarantee it would help boost sales.
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873051)
Posted by dragons on April 9th, 2017 @ 11:17am CDT
Not that I care paint chipping saw no problems got him yesterday it's mostly breaking pieces on 225 figure that's main my concern on figure I will make adjustments when I get to it he will mostly stay bot mode anyway
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873074)
Posted by Emerje on April 9th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Laserwave was sold at their 17% to 20% off for months post general release, its all sold out now.

Exactly, months. That figure wasn't a super big seller for anyone thanks to the price being inflated so much by the electronics and the colors really turned off a lot of people.

Guess Megs is more in demand by your logic that he is being sold full price + the taxes. Also, again, why sell the item at no tax prices PO then full price + taxes post general release? Would their bottom line still be achieved?

Pre-orders are a battlefield between shops, all of them trying to be more enticing than the next. Years ago HLJ only offered pre-order discounts for the first week that something was available for pre-order and then they'd go back to full price until they sold out or hit clearance. It wasn't until AmiAmi came along and started taking away their pre-orders that they made the discounts permanent. Once something is released and the mad rush is gone the prices become more flexible. Just look around: Hlj - order stop, Hobby Search - sold out, A-E - sold out, Big In Japan - out of stock, Amazon.co.jp - sold out, available through other Amazon sellers at full price with no international sales. AmiAmi is the only major exporter that still has stock left which puts them in the unique position to sell at whatever price they want.

Though this might be a typo but their sold out Inferno, it is still marked as 21% off while Megs who is twice and a 1/4 the cost is now full price. If I were a businessman and already earned a profit, my priority would be to get rid of inventory and fast (their Megs stocks at present is limited to 3 per household limit at full price price tax) again this is so :???:

Why would you want to minimize profits when you're in the perfect position to maximize them? AmiAmi isn't hurting for sales and in no rush to clear inventory on something that's only been out for a few weeks. Stores don't survive on pre-orders alone, they survive by having items on hand that people want. Someone will come along, probably in Japan, that didn't have the money to buy Megatron when he came out, but do now and will pay full price because he's so hard to find anywhere else. That's who AmiAmi is targeting, they can sell other stuff in the meantime.

Emerje
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873108)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 9th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Rated X wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:So let's make this simple, what are the direct questions and concerns you all may have about this figure? I promise an un biased answer to the best of my ability.


So if I was to buy this figure right now....list the steps and precautionary fixes I can perform right out of the box to prevent breakage and chipping. The article posted now tells everything to do in such a random order and fails to provide pictures of the infamous leg screw that needs to be loosened. I also hope that in the future somebody who is expierenced with the figure can post a youtube video and perform all the fixes right out the box without even trying to play with the figure. That would be of great help. BBTS or a company who can afford to experiment with a figure should put this out for the people. I guarantee it would help boost sales.


Well, as long as you have handled a MP style figure before, and understand the difference between them and mainstream figures, you should have no breakage issues.*

As for paint chipping, let me say this as clearly as I can for everyone:

IF YOU TAKE MEGATRON OUT OF THE CLAMSHELL, YOU WILL CHIP THE PAINT.


Seriously, you don't even have to transform it. This is one if the most delicate paint jobs I've ever seen.









*one piece on mine needed to have a tiny bit of excess plastic trimmed before it was transformable. More detail coming later.
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873109)
Posted by Sideswipe79 on April 9th, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
As for paint chipping, let me say this as clearly as I can for everyone:

IF YOU TAKE MEGATRON OUT OF THE CLAMSHELL, YOU WILL CHIP THE PAINT.


Seriously, you don't even have to transform it. This is one if the most delicate paint jobs I've ever seen.






Mine as several paint dameges due to the transformation and use of gimmik.
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873141)
Posted by nycPrime on April 9th, 2017 @ 4:40pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Okay, this is unrelated to the figure itself in a way especially since it'll be ages before I can get him; but I'm curious in general: we all know the laws around toy guns are a little frustrating, but how about when you're taking him somewhere else? Like, say, moving house? Even going outside your country on a plane? Anyone know how toy gun laws would restrict you there if you were taking him?

At least within the US, as long as the orange plug is in there, you can pretty much do what you want with it without fear. Without the plug, you'd be fine if you were smart about it. What I mean is don't walk around with it in gun mode waving it around. There's a sad story of a small kid doing that with a toy gun with the orange plug either missing or painted over. The cops were called and it ended tragically.

As for flying, I don't know why you would do so in this day and age, either domestically or internationally. Probably best to avoid that if at all possible.
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873185)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:03pm CDT
Sideswipe79 wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
Rated X wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:
As for paint chipping, let me say this as clearly as I can for everyone:

IF YOU TAKE MEGATRON OUT OF THE CLAMSHELL, YOU WILL CHIP THE PAINT.


Seriously, you don't even have to transform it. This is one if the most delicate paint jobs I've ever seen.






Mine as several paint dameges due to the transformation and use of gimmik.


Did it chip right off the clam shell?
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873212)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 9th, 2017 @ 7:56pm CDT
Okay, so as promised, whether you want them or not, here are my thoughts on MP-36 Megatron, enjoy! Also, I will be comparing 36 very heavily to Maketoys Despotron, my current Masterpiece style Megatron. A word of transparency before we go further. Up until getting 36 in hand, I have not been a huge fan, and have in fact been a fairly vocal critic. That said, I still feel I can be pretty objective in this. While I might like other figures better, I can step back, and still see what is good in the figure at hand. Remember as well, liking one thing more, doesn’t make the other thing bad.

Also, I can admit when I’m wrong.

Mistake me not, 36 has his flaws, and we will talk about them, but I’d be lying if I told you I wasn’t really starting to like this figure. He was a gift, so I’m stuck with him either way, but he is slowly winning me over. I still love Despotron, but 36 is no slouch. So, lets get to it, shall we?

Lets go over the two glaring issues that keep cropping up first: paint chips and breakage. As I said in an above post, the paint chipping is bad. Like, really bad. I am hereby listing it as the number one flaw on this toy. Out of the box, he had a nick on his leg, and a couple around the left shoulder inner workings. Just posing him in a couple of different poses, he acquired a couple more. Once I got around to transforming him, well, yeah. I’m no newb to transformers. I understand that some paint chipping will occur. Over time. After many transformations. This is happening, literally, out of the box. There is no way around it, if you buy this figure, and take him out of package, you will get paint chips. Anyone who says different is either straight up lying, or simply refusing to see it.

As for breakage, I’m going to drop all cases of that on user error. I’ve gone through the transformation several times now, and not one case of breakage. No, its not as sturdy as a mainline figure, but its no piece of glass either. Yes, many parts are small, but as long as you take it easy, you can avoid breaking parts. Speaking of the transformation itself, it is NOT as bad as has been made out. Sure, its involved, but I’ve already got it down. Use the instructions the first time, or at least watch one of the many youtube videos, and you will be fine. I didn’t even need to do that hip adjustment thing.

Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.

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Other than that, I have had zero issues with breakage, and I caught that before breakage occurred. His joints are all nice and tight, but not too tight. The ratchets feel just right. He can really hold some dynamic poses.

So, on to some fun stuff. Any review has to have some box pictures. Being a starndard Takara Masterpiece, the box is nothing that we haven’t seen before.
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He looks good with other bots.

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36 does one thing very well, one thing I don’t think any other version of Megatron has captured quite so well: his lower chest.

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Sadly, this picture also shows one of his flaws, the infamous “robovagina”. The waist piece is functional, but just not pretty. That chest though, it is amazing, and one of my favorite parts of this figure.

As far as accessories go, 36 comes with many. This is one of the areas Despotron fails in, he came with only a couple of faces and the energy mace. The accessories have already been touched on many times by others, so I’ll just talk about my favorites: the optional faces. First pic are what comes with 36, second pic are what comes with Despotron.

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Personally, Despotron offers the best facial expression with his laughing face, but the ones offered by Takara are great as well. I really love this gimmick. It’s a great and simple way to bring a little fun and variety to your collection display. I’m also a huge fan of the laser sword that 36 comes with. I must also mention that the energy mace on 36 not only comes with a standard chain, but a posable one as well. You can really create some dynamic battle scenes with that. I kinda wish I had taken some pics like that. Maybe next time.

Another thing that must be mentioned is the “mass shifting” this figure does. Obviously, I don’t mean it can shrink, but it does do an incredible job of taking a rather large robot and shrinking it to a not to far off from real life pistol. Seriously, Takara did an amazing job at compacting parts, and then expanding them out again. I made a lot of noise about how many panel lines 36 had, and how messy his back is, but once you’ve transformed him, you get it. It takes a lot of moving parts to do what they did. It still might be a little too much, but respect where respect is due.

The next few pictures will be side by side comparison of 36 and Despotron. I’ve chosen Despotron for the comparison, because obviously, I have him. I also had X-Transbots Apollyon, but sold him for Despotron. Apollyon was a great figure, but I feel 36 is a better toy. We will talk more after.

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As you can see, while 36 is of a very similar size to Despotron, he transforms into a smaller gun. I find that impressive, but not necessary. 36 could do with a bit of a similar transformation. Despotron is challenging, but doesn’t take to terribly long. 36 is gonna take you a few minutes. Then again, it isn’t the way too simple transformation that severely hurt MP Shockwave and MP Inferno, so you take what you can. 36 does leave you feeling satisfied when you are done, so we will go on and count it as a win.

Despotron takes a more comic (specifically Dreamwave era) inspired look, while 36 really nails the cartoon look. This is a negative for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. Also, it could be worse. Inferno just looks silly in its cartoon accuracy, while 36 still looks badass. He looks like a Masterpiece.

In closing, while 36 is growing on me greatly, and may end up replacing Despotron (I’m not ready to let go yet, but its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons), he has one nagging issue that simply cannot be let go of: the paint chipping. Some people maybe able to look past this, but folks, on a $200 toy, this is simply not acceptable. There is no excuse, and is a huge fail on the part of Takara. I won’t say don’t get this figure because of it, but buyer beware. Like I said earlier, if you take 36 out of the clamshell, you WILL have paint chips.

Something else on 36 that I really enjoy is his fusion cannon. The barrel is adjustable for cannon and scope modes. Its a small thing that really stands out as that extra little bit that we should expect from a Masterpiece toy. Very nifty.

This went on for a bit, sorry for that, but I hope some of you enjoy it. Let us end in true Ironhidensh tradition, with a dash pic.
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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873226)
Posted by sol magnus on April 9th, 2017 @ 8:37pm CDT
I'm glad you found some love for MP-36. I sold my Despotron, but I loved the smirking face. Takara should do one of those. Megatron smirking in TF:TM is probably one of my favorite Megatron scenes in all of G1.

Although I tend not to get into the 3p thing too much, I'm not against 3p figures. I, like many, use them to fill in Takara gaps. I do tend to think Takara makes the best figures of their characters, but I have no hard-line opinion of those who like 3p offerings more.
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873232)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 9th, 2017 @ 8:50pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons),
I've one solution for ya:

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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873233)
Posted by fenrir72 on April 9th, 2017 @ 8:52pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:Okay, so as promised, whether you want them or not, here are my thoughts on MP-36 Megatron, enjoy! Also, I will be comparing 36 very heavily to Maketoys Despotron, my current Masterpiece style Megatron. A word of transparency before we go further. Up until getting 36 in hand, I have not been a huge fan, and have in fact been a fairly vocal critic. That said, I still feel I can be pretty objective in this. While I might like other figures better, I can step back, and still see what is good in the figure at hand. Remember as well, liking one thing more, doesn’t make the other thing bad.

Also, I can admit when I’m wrong.

Mistake me not, 36 has his flaws, and we will talk about them, but I’d be lying if I told you I wasn’t really starting to like this figure. He was a gift, so I’m stuck with him either way, but he is slowly winning me over. I still love Despotron, but 36 is no slouch. So, lets get to it, shall we?

Lets go over the two glaring issues that keep cropping up first: paint chips and breakage. As I said in an above post, the paint chipping is bad. Like, really bad. I am hereby listing it as the number one flaw on this toy. Out of the box, he had a nick on his leg, and a couple around the left shoulder inner workings. Just posing him in a couple of different poses, he acquired a couple more. Once I got around to transforming him, well, yeah. I’m no newb to transformers. I understand that some paint chipping will occur. Over time. After many transformations. This is happening, literally, out of the box. There is no way around it, if you buy this figure, and take him out of package, you will get paint chips. Anyone who says different is either straight up lying, or simply refusing to see it.

As for breakage, I’m going to drop all cases of that on user error. I’ve gone through the transformation several times now, and not one case of breakage. No, its not as sturdy as a mainline figure, but its no piece of glass either. Yes, many parts are small, but as long as you take it easy, you can avoid breaking parts. Speaking of the transformation itself, it is NOT as bad as has been made out. Sure, its involved, but I’ve already got it down. Use the instructions the first time, or at least watch one of the many youtube videos, and you will be fine. I didn’t even need to do that hip adjustment thing.

Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.

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Other than that, I have had zero issues with breakage, and I caught that before breakage occurred. His joints are all nice and tight, but not too tight. The ratchets feel just right. He can really hold some dynamic poses.

So, on to some fun stuff. Any review has to have some box pictures. Being a starndard Takara Masterpiece, the box is nothing that we haven’t seen before.
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He looks good with other bots.

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36 does one thing very well, one thing I don’t think any other version of Megatron has captured quite so well: his lower chest.

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Sadly, this picture also shows one of his flaws, the infamous “robovagina”. The waist piece is functional, but just not pretty. That chest though, it is amazing, and one of my favorite parts of this figure.

As far as accessories go, 36 comes with many. This is one of the areas Despotron fails in, he came with only a couple of faces and the energy mace. The accessories have already been touched on many times by others, so I’ll just talk about my favorites: the optional faces. First pic are what comes with 36, second pic are what comes with Despotron.

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Personally, Despotron offers the best facial expression with his laughing face, but the ones offered by Takara are great as well. I really love this gimmick. It’s a great and simple way to bring a little fun and variety to your collection display. I’m also a huge fan of the laser sword that 36 comes with. I must also mention that the energy mace on 36 not only comes with a standard chain, but a posable one as well. You can really create some dynamic battle scenes with that. I kinda wish I had taken some pics like that. Maybe next time.

Another thing that must be mentioned is the “mass shifting” this figure does. Obviously, I don’t mean it can shrink, but it does do an incredible job of taking a rather large robot and shrinking it to a not to far off from real life pistol. Seriously, Takara did an amazing job at compacting parts, and then expanding them out again. I made a lot of noise about how many panel lines 36 had, and how messy his back is, but once you’ve transformed him, you get it. It takes a lot of moving parts to do what they did. It still might be a little too much, but respect where respect is due.

The next few pictures will be side by side comparison of 36 and Despotron. I’ve chosen Despotron for the comparison, because obviously, I have him. I also had X-Transbots Apollyon, but sold him for Despotron. Apollyon was a great figure, but I feel 36 is a better toy. We will talk more after.

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As you can see, while 36 is of a very similar size to Despotron, he transforms into a smaller gun. I find that impressive, but not necessary. 36 could do with a bit of a similar transformation. Despotron is challenging, but doesn’t take to terribly long. 36 is gonna take you a few minutes. Then again, it isn’t the way too simple transformation that severely hurt MP Shockwave and MP Inferno, so you take what you can. 36 does leave you feeling satisfied when you are done, so we will go on and count it as a win.

Despotron takes a more comic (specifically Dreamwave era) inspired look, while 36 really nails the cartoon look. This is a negative for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. Also, it could be worse. Inferno just looks silly in its cartoon accuracy, while 36 still looks badass. He looks like a Masterpiece.

In closing, while 36 is growing on me greatly, and may end up replacing Despotron (I’m not ready to let go yet, but its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons), he has one nagging issue that simply cannot be let go of: the paint chipping. Some people maybe able to look past this, but folks, on a $200 toy, this is simply not acceptable. There is no excuse, and is a huge fail on the part of Takara. I won’t say don’t get this figure because of it, but buyer beware. Like I said earlier, if you take 36 out of the clamshell, you WILL have paint chips.

Something else on 36 that I really enjoy is his fusion cannon. The barrel is adjustable for cannon and scope modes. Its a small thing that really stands out as that extra little bit that we should expect from a Masterpiece toy. Very nifty.

This went on for a bit, sorry for that, but I hope some of you enjoy it. Let us end in true Ironhidensh tradition, with a dash pic.
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@ IHD, I know you already put an effort on posting the images but is it possible to mark those parts concerning the "shaving" you made. You can do it with the edit options of paint etc. For posterity sake as my MP hasn't arrive yet.

Oh, my calling you that censored word, I apologize in public. Man enough to admit it that I got my emotions carried away. Btw, has MP Megs caught your "zing"? Or is it still Despotron? If this didn't come out, I was leaning towards Maketoys' version 'cause it reminds me of the Studio Ox style which I so dig!
Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873255)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 9th, 2017 @ 10:05pm CDT
With all the differing opinions on the new Masterpiece Megatron ranging from a perfection to yet another waste of plastic and sliver of die-cast, along with the concern for breakage and paint chipping, it certainly can prove difficult for someone to actually make up their minds about buying Megatron now that is his widely in stock and shipping. Well, we bring to you today a Seibertronian review of MP-36 Megatron, written by our own Ironhidensh, that may be able to help some of you figure that out once and for all.

Now for those of you who may know, Ironhidensh has not been a big fan of the figure based on pictures and reviews and reports, but still ended up one as a gift. And based on his review, it seems it became the gift that has kept on giving. Read up below as Ironhidensh takes us through is experiences with the mold and shares with us his thoughts on the complaints of paint chipping, parts count, and breakage issues.

Was this review that made you say "I would have waited an eternity for this!" or did it only help convince you that this figure is nothing more than heroic nonsense? Check out the review, and let us know if this help sway your mind in an way!

Ironhidensh wrote:Okay, so as promised, whether you want them or not, here are my thoughts on MP-36 Megatron, enjoy! Also, I will be comparing 36 very heavily to Maketoys Despotron, my current Masterpiece style Megatron. A word of transparency before we go further. Up until getting 36 in hand, I have not been a huge fan, and have in fact been a fairly vocal critic. That said, I still feel I can be pretty objective in this. While I might like other figures better, I can step back, and still see what is good in the figure at hand. Remember as well, liking one thing more, doesn’t make the other thing bad.

Also, I can admit when I’m wrong.

Mistake me not, 36 has his flaws, and we will talk about them, but I’d be lying if I told you I wasn’t really starting to like this figure. He was a gift, so I’m stuck with him either way, but he is slowly winning me over. I still love Despotron, but 36 is no slouch. So, lets get to it, shall we?

Lets go over the two glaring issues that keep cropping up first: paint chips and breakage. As I said in an above post, the paint chipping is bad. Like, really bad. I am hereby listing it as the number one flaw on this toy. Out of the box, he had a nick on his leg, and a couple around the left shoulder inner workings. Just posing him in a couple of different poses, he acquired a couple more. Once I got around to transforming him, well, yeah. I’m no newb to transformers. I understand that some paint chipping will occur. Over time. After many transformations. This is happening, literally, out of the box. There is no way around it, if you buy this figure, and take him out of package, you will get paint chips. Anyone who says different is either straight up lying, or simply refusing to see it.

As for breakage, I’m going to drop all cases of that on user error. I’ve gone through the transformation several times now, and not one case of breakage. No, its not as sturdy as a mainline figure, but its no piece of glass either. Yes, many parts are small, but as long as you take it easy, you can avoid breaking parts. Speaking of the transformation itself, it is NOT as bad as has been made out. Sure, its involved, but I’ve already got it down. Use the instructions the first time, or at least watch one of the many youtube videos, and you will be fine. I didn’t even need to do that hip adjustment thing.

Now, on that note, I did have one issue that needed some “modification”. The part that his gun barrel folds down on had some raised ridges molded on. I assume it is too provide friction to help hold the barrel in place. These ridges stuck out too far and completely prevented the movement of the barrel. I had to take an knife and shave them down a bit.

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Other than that, I have had zero issues with breakage, and I caught that before breakage occurred. His joints are all nice and tight, but not too tight. The ratchets feel just right. He can really hold some dynamic poses.

So, on to some fun stuff. Any review has to have some box pictures. Being a starndard Takara Masterpiece, the box is nothing that we haven’t seen before.

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He looks good with other bots.

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36 does one thing very well, one thing I don’t think any other version of Megatron has captured quite so well: his lower chest.

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Sadly, this picture also shows one of his flaws, the infamous “robovagina”. The waist piece is functional, but just not pretty. That chest though, it is amazing, and one of my favorite parts of this figure.

As far as accessories go, 36 comes with many. This is one of the areas Despotron fails in, he came with only a couple of faces and the energy mace. The accessories have already been touched on many times by others, so I’ll just talk about my favorites: the optional faces. First pic are what comes with 36, second pic are what comes with Despotron.

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Personally, Despotron offers the best facial expression with his laughing face, but the ones offered by Takara are great as well. I really love this gimmick. It’s a great and simple way to bring a little fun and variety to your collection display. I’m also a huge fan of the laser sword that 36 comes with. I must also mention that the energy mace on 36 not only comes with a standard chain, but a posable one as well. You can really create some dynamic battle scenes with that. I kinda wish I had taken some pics like that. Maybe next time.

Another thing that must be mentioned is the “mass shifting” this figure does. Obviously, I don’t mean it can shrink, but it does do an incredible job of taking a rather large robot and shrinking it to a not to far off from real life pistol. Seriously, Takara did an amazing job at compacting parts, and then expanding them out again. I made a lot of noise about how many panel lines 36 had, and how messy his back is, but once you’ve transformed him, you get it. It takes a lot of moving parts to do what they did. It still might be a little too much, but respect where respect is due.

The next few pictures will be side by side comparison of 36 and Despotron. I’ve chosen Despotron for the comparison, because obviously, I have him. I also had X-Transbots Apollyon, but sold him for Despotron. Apollyon was a great figure, but I feel 36 is a better toy. We will talk more after.

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As you can see, while 36 is of a very similar size to Despotron, he transforms into a smaller gun. I find that impressive, but not necessary. 36 could do with a bit of a similar transformation. Despotron is challenging, but doesn’t take to terribly long. 36 is gonna take you a few minutes. Then again, it isn’t the way too simple transformation that severely hurt MP Shockwave and MP Inferno, so you take what you can. 36 does leave you feeling satisfied when you are done, so we will go on and count it as a win.

Despotron takes a more comic (specifically Dreamwave era) inspired look, while 36 really nails the cartoon look. This is a negative for me, but that is a matter of personal taste. Also, it could be worse. Inferno just looks silly in its cartoon accuracy, while 36 still looks badass. He looks like a Masterpiece.

In closing, while 36 is growing on me greatly, and may end up replacing Despotron (I’m not ready to let go yet, but its hard to justify having two MP style Megatrons), he has one nagging issue that simply cannot be let go of: the paint chipping. Some people maybe able to look past this, but folks, on a $200 toy, this is simply not acceptable. There is no excuse, and is a huge fail on the part of Takara. I won’t say don’t get this figure because of it, but buyer beware. Like I said earlier, if you take 36 out of the clamshell, you WILL have paint chips.

Something else on 36 that I really enjoy is his fusion cannon. The barrel is adjustable for cannon and scope modes. Its a small thing that really stands out as that extra little bit that we should expect from a Masterpiece toy. Very nifty.

This went on for a bit, sorry for that, but I hope some of you enjoy it. Let us end in true Ironhidensh tradition, with a dash pic.

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Re: In-Hand Review of Takara Tomy Transformers MP-36 Megatron: What Went Wrong (1873271)
Posted by Rated X on April 10th, 2017 @ 12:22am CDT
Hmmmm....

Im tempted to pull the trigger. But the nitpicker in me is waiting to see if Takara addresses any of the flaws officially in a statement. I would love to see a reissue in grey plastic like Hegemon and no paint which would mean no chipping. My only concern is that a reissue might not include the silencer and the stock. Those are a must have for me. I could care less about the other accessories if it brought the price down about 25 bucks. So im just gonna patiently wait and see what comes out the press throughout April and make a decision by May. Great review by the way. I only wish you had used red to mark the part of the barrel you modified because without the toy in hand most people wont have a clue what too look for in that picture. The one question I have is about the transformation. If I can handle the MP seeker mold, will MP-36 stress me out? Or is it on about the same level of complexity? Im not a fan of complex transformations. Ive never even fully transformed Hegemon. All those damn pannels on the legs/gun handle got me like screw this s**t let me just leave him in robot mode. Should I expect the same from MP-36? Or even worse? Is it another ROTF Leader Prime?

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