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That first page has some of the worst composition I've ever seen. Aside from the hands, what are we looking at? Where are the sight lines??

QUICKSWITCH

Finally have a good reason to own his toy fiction wise, not that he has a bad toy either. Nice to see him brought in. And Wheeljack and Breakdown are good too.

A small plus, but finally it's there.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:QUICKSWITCH

Finally have a good reason to own his toy fiction wise, not that he has a bad toy either. Nice to see him brought in. And Wheeljack and Breakdown are good too.

A small plus, but finally it's there.

Has he not been in IDWverse til now?

Sixshot was introduced way back in 2006, after all.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:QUICKSWITCH

Finally have a good reason to own his toy fiction wise, not that he has a bad toy either. Nice to see him brought in. And Wheeljack and Breakdown are good too.

A small plus, but finally it's there.

Has he not been in IDWverse til now?

Sixshot was introduced way back in 2006, after all.

He showed up once in a flashback in OP issue 1, but this is the first time he is on screen and speaking

The two main Six Changers appearing over a decade apart?

The jumbled nature of IDWverse pooling characters from every continuity has always confused me.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The two main Six Changers appearing over a decade apart?

The jumbled nature of IDWverse pooling characters from every continuity has always confused me.

Every character that has ever existed is fair game, no matter the source material. And Sixshot is really the only well known (I use the term loosely even in his case) six-changer, so it's not terribly surprising for me to see Quickswitch appear this late in the game. And it is fun that he gets to appear at all, it helps get the obscure characters some actual screen time

Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

But technically speaking, Sixshot was a major threat because of the ununtrium skeleton he was given to make him a phase sixer. He was a six changer before probably, but the phase sixer upgrade only made him stronger.

And in this universe, Sixshot and Quickswitch are not shown to be related at all. Heck, we haven't even confirmation that Quickswitch is a 6-changer yet, and even so, other multi-changers haven't been shown to be uber powerful most of the time, look at Broadside, Sandstorm, and Springer for example. Even Blitzwing and Astrotrain didn't really play a bigger role due to their multiple modes

True. The only two shown to be Uber-Powerful in IDWverse are Prime and Megatron. A joke in itself at times.

Better hope he doesn't show up for a few panels then becomes the latest victim in IDW's efforts to put over Visionaries.

This was the comic I tried to find the RI cover for. Got it on Ebay for just under $11. I'm pretty happy with that.

The story still isn't all that great though.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

But technically speaking, Sixshot was a major threat because of the ununtrium skeleton he was given to make him a phase sixer. He was a six changer before probably, but the phase sixer upgrade only made him stronger.

And in this universe, Sixshot and Quickswitch are not shown to be related at all. Heck, we haven't even confirmation that Quickswitch is a 6-changer yet, and even so, other multi-changers haven't been shown to be uber powerful most of the time, look at Broadside, Sandstorm, and Springer for example. Even Blitzwing and Astrotrain didn't really play a bigger role due to their multiple modes

actually has it ever been stated that sixshot has an ununtrium skeleton?

i know overlord bacame a phase sixer on the back of it but i all ways got the feeling sixshot went through a different process (the whole being built from materials minded from collapsed stars - so bascially neutronium- and his self regenerating dark matter core which fuels him indefinitely and provide his power needs)

kinda like the difference between capatin america and wolverine. theyre both still super soldiers, but got there by different means (plus the whole needing to be a point on percenter to even take such ministrations).

if im wrong ill put me hands up but i dont remember reading it anywhere. it always struck me that sixshot was something the cons managed at their height, whereas overlord and black shadow were what they could do when resources got low.

If you want to talk other possible crossovers, there MAY be a thread about it already, if not, feel free to start one and take it there folks.
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Nevermind, I did the annoying-time-consuming-piss-me-off-split-posts-into-a-new-topic thing.

partholon wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

But technically speaking, Sixshot was a major threat because of the ununtrium skeleton he was given to make him a phase sixer. He was a six changer before probably, but the phase sixer upgrade only made him stronger.

And in this universe, Sixshot and Quickswitch are not shown to be related at all. Heck, we haven't even confirmation that Quickswitch is a 6-changer yet, and even so, other multi-changers haven't been shown to be uber powerful most of the time, look at Broadside, Sandstorm, and Springer for example. Even Blitzwing and Astrotrain didn't really play a bigger role due to their multiple modes

actually has it ever been stated that sixshot has an ununtrium skeleton?

i know overlord bacame a phase sixer on the back of it but i all ways got the feeling sixshot went through a different process (the whole being built from materials minded from collapsed stars - so bascially neutronium- and his self regenerating dark matter core which fuels him indefinitely and provide his power needs)

kinda like the difference between capatin america and wolverine. theyre both still super soldiers, but got there by different means (plus the whole needing to be a point on percenter to even take such ministrations).

if im wrong ill put me hands up but i dont remember reading it anywhere. it always struck me that sixshot was something the cons managed at their height, whereas overlord and black shadow were what they could do when resources got low.

While it was not stated outright, it was heavily implied Sixshot was given Ununtrium. Overlord went through the process, but there were concerns on the scientist doing the ununtrium coating that his birth on Luna-2 would make him reject the process, and that it had been done before to other Phase Sixers, and Sixshot was one. He survived being squished by Metroplex too, so I don't think there isn't really any room to doubt sixshot was given the ununtrium coating.

Even so, I hope Burn is right and we don't get a quick hi and bye for Quickswitch, though I fear he will die just because he is the guy who will almost succeed but then fail only for Primus to save the day sort of thing.

Well heres the thing, we know that the good guys will survive this...or at least win this as I'm guessing the events of op happen afterwards, since none of the cast have mentioned that onyx has turned up to say hi...though that would be a fun ending if onyx just appeared and stopped the darkling lords plan with ease. Would also be fun if somehow this was part of a plan by the liege maximo

I don't see how this can end with any of the Visionaries left on Cybertron?

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

partholon wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Yeah, I get that and I have generally been in favour of IDW using everyone. Yet at the same time, given what Sixshot was during the -Ations - a Phase Sixer - from a lore point of view, logically the Autobots would have rolled out Quickswitch a lot sooner.

But technically speaking, Sixshot was a major threat because of the ununtrium skeleton he was given to make him a phase sixer. He was a six changer before probably, but the phase sixer upgrade only made him stronger.

And in this universe, Sixshot and Quickswitch are not shown to be related at all. Heck, we haven't even confirmation that Quickswitch is a 6-changer yet, and even so, other multi-changers haven't been shown to be uber powerful most of the time, look at Broadside, Sandstorm, and Springer for example. Even Blitzwing and Astrotrain didn't really play a bigger role due to their multiple modes

actually has it ever been stated that sixshot has an ununtrium skeleton?

i know overlord bacame a phase sixer on the back of it but i all ways got the feeling sixshot went through a different process (the whole being built from materials minded from collapsed stars - so bascially neutronium- and his self regenerating dark matter core which fuels him indefinitely and provide his power needs)

kinda like the difference between capatin america and wolverine. theyre both still super soldiers, but got there by different means (plus the whole needing to be a point on percenter to even take such ministrations).

if im wrong ill put me hands up but i dont remember reading it anywhere. it always struck me that sixshot was something the cons managed at their height, whereas overlord and black shadow were what they could do when resources got low.

While it was not stated outright, it was heavily implied Sixshot was given Ununtrium. Overlord went through the process, but there were concerns on the scientist doing the ununtrium coating that his birth on Luna-2 would make him reject the process, and that it had been done before to other Phase Sixers, and Sixshot was one. He survived being squished by Metroplex too, so I don't think there isn't really any room to doubt sixshot was given the ununtrium coating.

Oh this was all lazy retcon stuff? Although I do recall at least Ratchet discussing his unique core, I thought I'd have to dig out Spotlight Sixshot and Devastation again for information on 'ununtrium' and 'point one percenters'. As I loathe retcon, it will be duly ignored.

I love pork sausages, I have them for breakfast once or twice a week, it's kinda like a treat for me.

So this morning I sat down to have some pork sausages for breakfast, and to read Transformers vs Visionaries issue #4. I knew what I was getting into, I even told myself "don't do this, you won't enjoy your breakfast". But I didn't listen and continued forward on my path of self-torture.

Which hey, turns out, Witterquick and Mortdred are getting tortured too! So at least I'm not alone in my suffering.



Anyhoo ... really, just another bland issue, which I thought was actually the last issue in this series, imagine my disappointment when I discovered there's actually another issue. HUZZAH! Another chance for self-torture!

The plot, as we all know, magical talisman thingy heading to core of Cybertron to trigger magic stuff to turn Cybertron into new human for squishy magical beings. And then there's the magic countering thingy. That's where we left off last issue?



Yeah ... not much happens there. It's mostly about the Visionaries standing around being evil or emo.

What I don't get though is why they need to secure the anti-magic bomb to the outside of Quickswitch when Wheeljack and Ironhide ride inside him. Why not just carry it? That's just ... ugh. It makes no sense!

But hey, at least we get to see Quickswitch! You know, that OTHER six-changer? Yeah, he's dead.



This issue didn't send me into fanboy rage like the first issue did. Maybe I'm over it? Maybe the writers are over it and are just going through the motions? Maybe the thought of the whole universe ending makes me think they can do whatever they want, it's all going away soon?



Overall, meh. It's an issue that moves the story line along at a snails pace.

Well that is predictable, sad but predictable. At least it will be over soon and I hope that idw just give the visionaries their own miniseries away from cybertron. It's still jarring for them to have been forced together.

ZeroWolf wrote:Well that is predictable, sad but predictable. At least it will be over soon and I hope that idw just give the visionaries their own miniseries away from cybertron. It's still jarring for them to have been forced together.

If this new TF universe results in separate universes for all the other franchises, getting Visionaries off the ground after this train wreck will not be an easy task.

Burn wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Well that is predictable, sad but predictable. At least it will be over soon and I hope that idw just give the visionaries their own miniseries away from cybertron. It's still jarring for them to have been forced together.

If this new TF universe results in separate universes for all the other franchises, getting Visionaries off the ground after this train wreck will not be an easy task.

True, though I don't believe that they are abandoning the shared universe just yet but either way I've got a good idea on how to really do a visionaries revival...game of thrones, visionaries style. It would be a hit if done just right, all the elements are there. They would just have to pretend this didn't exist