John Barber Talks IDW's Unicron Event, Role in IDW Transformers Comics After Unicron
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Over the course of the interview, Barber talks about his upcoming role in the IDW Transformers comics following the end of the current continuity, where he states that he will have a guiding hand involved with whatever new series is set to start. This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity. So while he may not be writing the new stories, he will be responsible for overseeing them.
You can check out the full interview by following the link above, and you can catch some of the content quoted below!
Alexander Jones: How do your new responsibilities as Editor-in-Chief effect your contributions to the Transformers franchise?
John Barber: My recent return to IDW as Editor-in-Chief won’t impact Unicron—I’m still writing the event (along with the Optimus Prime series) through to the end, and my excitement and commitment to this story could not be higher. But I’m also incredibly honored and excited to have the opportunity to take a guiding hand on where the Transformers comics from IDW and Hasbro go next—and on where we take all of IDW’s amazing comics. I’ve been at this job for about a week, and it’s been thrilling working with our partners. The future of IDW—and of comics—looks very, very bright. Unless a big metal planet eats the whole universe, but we’ll have to see how that goes.
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Jones: Why was Unicron chosen as the story to close out the current Transformers Universe?
Barber: Unicron is a really iconic piece of the Transformers mythos. If you’re old enough to have lived through the original Transformers cartoon in the 1980s, you remember what a massive, disruptive thing Unicron was in the movie. That movie was one of the most apocalyptic cartoons you were going to see as a kid in the 1980s—it was devastating watching those familiar characters die. And that’s intrinsically linked with Unicron—in my mind, at least—even though, as editor David Mariotte likes pointing out, Unicron didn’t really kill very many Transformers. He still ate whole planets!
Unicron is something we’ve thought about doing in the IDW universe for a long time but always held off. The time never felt right, and I think the chance to do something really big—something where genuinely anything can happen, and will—was a chance, really the first chance we’ve had, to do Unicron right.
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Posted by DeadCaL on May 8th, 2018 @ 9:38pm CDT
Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).
Could you explain for those of us that don't know?
Posted by Sunstar on May 8th, 2018 @ 11:22pm CDT
DeadCaL wrote:Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).
Could you explain for those of us that don't know?
visionaries comes to mind.
Posted by WreckerJack on May 9th, 2018 @ 2:47am CDT
DeadCaL wrote:Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).
Could you explain for those of us that don't know?
Just read Lost Light. I'll just say there is a lot of OMG your favorite character(s) are dead! Oops we lied they just fine - tune in next time for more cheap shock value.
Granted I quit reading LL after the 15th issue because I could just not take the cheap attention grabbing and incessant politics being inserted into it. I'm hoping it's gotten better since then. I know no one is forcing me to read something that isn't my cup of tea but it still bums me out that something that started out good took such a nosedive.
By the way how far into LL do I need to read Unicron 0? I picked it up at my local comic shop and I have been hanging onto it just in case.
Posted by Va'al on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:05am CDT
So far, there is very little LL plot feeding into Unicron, thought that may of course change.
Posted by WreckerJack on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:54am CDT
Va'al wrote:I was specifically talking about Visionaries. But that was an interesting reaction I had not expected!
So far, there is very little LL plot feeding into Unicron, thought that may of course change.
Guess I don't have to force myself to read it then. Oh happy day!
Posted by ScottyP on May 9th, 2018 @ 8:14am CDT
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Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 8:47am CDT
ScottyP wrote:They've been planning this longer than any of us realized, which is enough to allay any fears I had about a rush job.
(How do I know this? You will know soon! Horrible shameless plug: watch this space in ~12 days)
Now I'm curious, but does that mean they knew it would end this continuity when it first was talked about? Or is that something that changed
Posted by BumbleDouche on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:28am CDT
When Unicron revealed his robot mode and slammed his fist into Cybertron, the occupying Decepticon forces were decimated to the extent that the pitiful Autobots were finally able to regain control of the planet, something they'd failed at repeatedly over millions of years.
Further, the army of Decepticon survivors exiled to Chaar in the first few episodes of season 3 were too few to be considered a planetary occupation force, so it stands to reason that their absent comrades were in fact destroyed in defense of Cybertron by Unicron.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2018 @ 10:54am CDT
As an aside, it would be nice if Kranix appears in this mini, in some meaningful way. His concept art did have an altmode after all...
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 12:41pm CDT
So I re-read 0 today, and I thought of something that was said at the end of it.
they said that he's getting bigger and stronger the more planets he's consuming (though from what pyra says, I'm also guessing suns aren't off the menu). So how's this for a theory, unicron will only be able to transform into his robot form once so many colony worlds have bit the dust. Additionally what I'm thinking is that the planet mode is more of a lavaral state while the robot mode is his true form.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2018 @ 12:53pm CDT
Another cool tidbit I read up on Kranix was how he ended up on Quintessa, in the original draft:
TFWiki wrote:A deleted line of dialogue explained that the Quintessons hunted down those who escaped the wrath of Unicron and put them on trial, with the sentence always being the same—death!
Which gives the trials of Quintessons actual purpose
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 2:19pm CDT
Seeing unicron that big in robot mode makes me hope that someone does fan art down the line of equally big (or bigger) anime mechs taking him apart like tenga toppa gurren laggan (I haven't spelt that right at all)
Posted by Bounti76 on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:04pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:DeadCaL wrote:Va'al wrote:And it's done in such a way that will allow several readers to really want to get into the main story come July, while not relying on senseless shock value twists or carnage for its own sake (yes, we all know what I'm referring to here).
Could you explain for those of us that don't know?
Just read Lost Light. I'll just say there is a lot of OMG your favorite character(s) are dead! Oops we lied they just fine - tune in next time for more cheap shock value.
Granted I quit reading LL after the 15th issue because I could just not take the cheap attention grabbing and incessant politics being inserted into it. I'm hoping it's gotten better since then. I know no one is forcing me to read something that isn't my cup of tea but it still bums me out that something that started out good took such a nosedive.
By the way how far into LL do I need to read Unicron 0? I picked it up at my local comic shop and I have been hanging onto it just in case.
I stopped reading when they had Star Saber off Defensor like he (Defensor) was some weak, powerless chump. It reeked of shock value.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 9th, 2018 @ 3:34pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.
It certainly would have been better than Primacron
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 9th, 2018 @ 4:32pm CDT
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:06pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:08pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
Do you have any examples or is this just your opinion? I agree with the original statement. I mean, Barber cut his teeth making sense of the live action movies since the writers of those films weren't interested in continuity (or explaining things clearly)
@AllNewSuperRobot Anything is better than Primacon. That's why I was thankful that Furman wrote an alternative origin for unicron during his work on the marvel series. At least hasbro seem to favour the primus/unicron origin more than the primacon one. I swear that even I'll lose faith in IDW if they go with the toon origins...I bet the writer's thought they were being really clever when they added that bit in. That episode would have been fine leaving out all mentions of unicron.
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:25pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff
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OMG
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sure.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:27pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sure.
True. Barber is almost universally praised for his continuity work. Heck, he made Spotlight: Mirage canon after almost a decade. He is good, I really don't understand what you have against him other than he's part of IDW
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:30pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sure.
True. Barber is almost universally praised for his continuity work. Heck, he made Spotlight: Mirage canon after almost a decade. He is good, I really don't understand what you have against him other than he's part of IDW
Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:34pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:"This is a comforting piece of news, seeing as how Barber has proven to be one of the best, if not the master of continuity."
How much did he pay you to write that garbage?
Because it's simply not true.
No one paid me to, it's simply 100% true. We can disagree about this, but Barber has proven for years to be the master of continuity. He has made things work that really shouldn't while still doing a lot of his own stuff
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OMG
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
sure.
True. Barber is almost universally praised for his continuity work. Heck, he made Spotlight: Mirage canon after almost a decade. He is good, I really don't understand what you have against him other than he's part of IDW
Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.
It really hasn't? It was bad between AHM and the 2009 ongoing because soft reboots and such. Since Death of Optimus Prime, it has been very streamlined, and things have been worked so all of the previous stuff does fit in. So it's been great, there hasn't been anything remotely terrible about the main Transformers titles since the 2009 ongoing.
Some of the (not all, some) crossovers, I will give you, but those that are are very much ignorable
Posted by Nexus Knight on May 9th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.
His run didn't even start until The Death of Optimus Prime, so he can't even be blamed for anything before. If I remember properly, his stories helped smooth over some of the headaches from before. It would be nice, though, if you gave a more specific example of how he is bad, instead of just telling people they are wrong to like him, especially with such a well loved author like Barber.
Posted by Sunstar on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:04am CDT
Va'al wrote:I was specifically talking about Visionaries. But that was an interesting reaction I had not expected!
So far, there is very little LL plot feeding into Unicron, thought that may of course change.
great minds think alike then.
Posted by WreckerJack on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:02am CDT
Posted by Sigma Magnus on May 10th, 2018 @ 5:37am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)
Guessing you didn't like the Wreckers saga then
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 10th, 2018 @ 11:51am CDT
I like this Unicron already. I like the preamble to him. That he is an unknown quantity. Wasn't crazy about the Galactus Quote at the end. They should definitely keep his speech to a minimum. Other than that, he is finally a relentless Destroyer. I approve.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:22pm CDT
Now I'm probably overthinking it but was there another reason emissary tried to stop them from getting out of there?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 10th, 2018 @ 12:28pm CDT
His voice via Orson Welles is iconic. Yet his dialogue on the printed page... Not so much.
Posted by AlphaBass on May 10th, 2018 @ 1:49pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think they'll end up giving him a full voice once he's eaten more planets...not saying that's what I want but it's something I can see them doing, probably has something to do with his voice being so iconic (now that I think about it though, did unicron talk during the unicron trilogy, or was it only through sideways?)
Now I'm probably overthinking it but was there another reason emissary tried to stop them from getting out of there?
It's probably related to that energy spike Wheeljack saw when he was starting the space bridge. But also consider he was paralyzed from the crash, so he may not have been able to switch the signal off even if he wanted to.
Posted by bluecatcinema on May 10th, 2018 @ 1:54pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.
It certainly would have been better than Primacron
I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the Primacron origin. To me, it sounds a little more believable than Unicron being this god-like being who destroyed the previous universe.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:00pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 10th, 2018 @ 2:42pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:If they went with that, they would have to explain what the connection was between the qunits and unicron was, which depending on how it was handled, could have been fun.
It certainly would have been better than Primacron
I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually prefer the Primacron origin. To me, it sounds a little more believable than Unicron being this god-like being who destroyed the previous universe.
Is there such a thing talking about unbelievablilty when we're talking about shape shifting alien robots that can alter mass?
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 10th, 2018 @ 3:49pm CDT
Nexus Knight wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Ummmm he's a terrible writer? I honestly don't see how you can see him as good. The continuity of the IDW TF comics has been terrible. Utterly terrible.
His run didn't even start until The Death of Optimus Prime, so he can't even be blamed for anything before. If I remember properly, his stories helped smooth over some of the headaches from before. It would be nice, though, if you gave a more specific example of how he is bad, instead of just telling people they are wrong to like him, especially with such a well loved author like Barber.
OK, let me try to say it this way. Every reason that you like him, is why I don't. Does that help?
I haven't been impressed with the IDW Transformers at all. The characterizations on many of the characters are WAY off. The pointless and stupid deaths of characters that served no purpose.
I mean Mirage, Trailbreaker, Sideswipe, and so many more all terrible deaths.
But the characterizations, my god.... so terrible.
Posted by WreckerJack on May 13th, 2018 @ 5:05am CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)
Guessing you didn't like the Wreckers saga then
To be honest I have not read it yet. I bought it about a month ago and it's been on my to-read pile on my shelf. Maybe I should screw over my sleep cycle a little more and read it now haha.
Getting back to the subject, I read Unicron 0 and it was pretty good. There were some slow parts but it does make me curious for this series. I liked that they gave us a re-cap and some other cool stuff in the back of the book. I am glad I picked it up.
Posted by ScottyP on May 22nd, 2018 @ 8:10am CDT
:clears throat, taps your shoulder:WreckerJack wrote:Sigma Magnus wrote:WreckerJack wrote:I hadn't bothered with visionaries due to the previews looking kinda meh (and robots dying in stupid and or pointless ways is my pet peeve!)
Guessing you didn't like the Wreckers saga then
To be honest I have not read it yet. I bought it about a month ago and it's been on my to-read pile on my shelf. Maybe I should screw over my sleep cycle a little more and read it now haha.
Anyhow, I was thinking about it earlier and Trypticon + the Dinobots might be some of the IDW Transformersverse's most important characters going into this event. Protoform children and their 5 dino-dads (and 1 dino-mom in Strafe!) that may be the future of the Cybertronian species just hanging out in the background - for now, at least.
Posted by Va'al on May 23rd, 2018 @ 7:18am CDT
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Posted by starfishy on May 24th, 2018 @ 3:50pm CDT
Posted by Daniel Adkins on May 24th, 2018 @ 8:46pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on May 26th, 2018 @ 10:50pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Barber: Unicron is a really iconic piece of the Transformers mythos. If you’re old enough to have lived through the original Transformers cartoon in the 1980s, you remember what a massive, disruptive thing Unicron was in the movie. That movie was one of the most apocalyptic cartoons you were going to see as a kid in the 1980s—it was devastating watching those familiar characters die. And that’s intrinsically linked with Unicron—in my mind, at least—even though, as editor David Mariotte likes pointing out, Unicron didn’t really kill very many Transformers. He still ate whole planets!
I far, FAR preferred the Marvel comics storyline where due to various events, Unicron ends up arriving many years sooner than in the film and does kill many notable characters all beautifully drawn by Geoff Senior. In fact I can't even recall which characters died in the film by Unicron (most died way before he turns up) I might check out this thing just to see it finally end the IDW G1verse that I've had such great difficulty trying to enjoy the several times I've tried my hardest to over the years.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 27th, 2018 @ 3:24am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 27th, 2018 @ 8:35am CDT
Daniel Adkins wrote:Yep!
So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?
ZeroWolf wrote:We did see unicron kill some bots at the end where daniel saved spike and bumblebee other than that he was supposed to have killed Shock wave but we don't technically see it. I mean it's implied with unicron raking cybertron surface but it's not shown shockwave getting crushed. Plus we never see his body, it's just that we never see him again.
Shockwave and the Coneheads too (kind of). Likewise you could argue Reflector died here, as they vanished after this point too. Wasn't that Gears that got melted inside the acid vat as well?
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 27th, 2018 @ 11:38am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 27th, 2018 @ 1:26pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I think it was gears...but I'm sure there was a couple more.
Posted by Daniel Adkins on May 27th, 2018 @ 3:02pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Daniel Adkins wrote:Yep!
So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?
Yep!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 27th, 2018 @ 3:04pm CDT
Daniel Adkins wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Daniel Adkins wrote:Yep!
So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?
Yep!
The original didn't go all Cobra-La again, did he?
Posted by Daniel Adkins on May 27th, 2018 @ 3:31pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Daniel Adkins wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Daniel Adkins wrote:Yep!
So did Baroness become the new Cobra Commander?
Yep!
The original didn't go all Cobra-La again, did he?
Nope. He got shot in the head by Chuckles back in 2011. Baroness is actually the third person to claim the mantle since then.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 27th, 2018 @ 3:33pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on May 30th, 2018 @ 1:52am CDT
Check out both the full art and the video by Raiz below, and share your thoughts in the Energon Pub discussion boards - will you be picking up these variants, or do you have your eye set on some of the other covers seen so far?
The end is nigh!
The Darkest Hour has come. Optimus Prime stages a desperate gamble as the world-eater, Unicron, approaches Windblade's homeworld-but that's just the appetizer. The main course is Cybertron (with a side of Earth)... and it's starting to look like no force in the galaxy can stop the end from coming. Transformers: Unicron #1 is coming this July.
Posted by Bounti76 on May 30th, 2018 @ 2:05am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 30th, 2018 @ 4:33am CDT