Ken Christiansen Shows Off Combiner Hunters Box Set Line Art
Tuesday, March 13th, 2018 5:19AM CDT
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Back view of the SDCC Combiner Hunters box...the trick to these was that I needed to fit all three into a closeup shot for the front, and still not have them floating, or standing on each other's feet when you pull back to see the full figures.
This is a pretty cool glimpse into what goes into making the art for toy packaging. Let us know what you think below!
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Posted by steve2275 on March 13th, 2018 @ 5:48am CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 16th, 2018 @ 7:47am CDT
Gods I'm hoping the CW limbs get reissued. Also Optimus Prime.
Posted by Bronzewolf on March 18th, 2018 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 30th, 2018 @ 10:28pm CDT
As can be seen from the above image, both heads were part of proposals for more Fun Pub figures, the above ones in particular being SG Autotrooper (the Offroad mold w/ the Hoist head) and SG X-Brawn (the Rook mold with his pretooled alternate head).
The reason I said "Ironclad" as Rook's pretool is, well, there's a bit of a story in that. See, Rook's original head pretool was actually Brawl, with the pretooled head made to resemble Brawl's noggin as, at the time, Hasbro hadn't yet made the separate Brawl mold that we ended up getting, so Rook being used for Brawl was a "just in case" backup plan if Hasbro needed it. They didn't, since Brawl did get his own mold, which left the Brawl-headed Rook pretool unneeded.
Then, when Hasbro was making plans for their Computron giftset, they brought back the Brawl-headed Rook to see use in that set as a new Technobot named "Ironclad", who was gonna replace Afterburner/Afterbreaker since he was gonna instead be made from the Legends class Groove mold (much like how Rook had replaced Groove in Hasbro's Protectobot releases). But then TakaraTomy went and made an Afterburner retooling from their Unite Warriors Deluxe class-sized Groove, so Hasbro quickly got their hands on that and scrapped their plans for both Legends class Afterburner/breaker and new character Ironclad.
Still, the Brawl-headed Rook pretool was not completely forgotten, as Fun Pub used it as the inspiration for the SG X-Brawn character who appeared in the final Shattered Glass-themed Club magazine comic storyline "Another Light". Based on the above image, SG X-Brawn was evidently one of Fun Pub's earlier proposals for BotCon 2016 along with SG Checkpoint (Offroad mold w/ the Trailbreaker head) and the SG Autotroopers also pictured above. But since that con ended up being another Beast Wars-themed con to pay tribute to both that series's 20th anniversary and BotCon's own legacy of having really taken off during the Beast Era, these proposals never came to fruition.
As for the other three proposals seen above, they are Maccadam/Alchemist Prime, Liege Maximo, and Solus Prime, but since those three aren't from Combiner Wars molds, their relevance is nil in this thread.
Posted by Emerje on May 31st, 2018 @ 7:12am CDT
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:36am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:50am CDT
Pete's Robot Convention 2018, June 9 and 10.
Sweet to finally see them, did they get any information pertaining to original intent before Ironclad?
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 10:53am CDT
...Like I said, the head was meant for Brawl to be made out of Rook before Hasbro changed their minds and made him his own mold. These heads were Hasbro-made like Ratchet, Reflector, Counterpunch and Nemesis Prime Toxitron.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sweet to finally see them, did they get any information pertaining to original intent before Ironclad?
As for displaying, I'm not expecting any these to be seen there in person. These proposals will likely just be images seen only on a screen at the Night Shining, Inc. panel, much like how all the old BotCon 2011 and TFSS 7.0 proposals were shown as images-only at last year's RoboCon. The Solus head seen there, for instance, is just Arcee's head with Cybertron Override's horns and helmet crest photoshopped onto it (the final would have been an all new sculpt had it come about).
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 16th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CDT
Who would you all recommend between CW Silverbolt and Onslaught? They both look good, and they form the torsos of my 2 favorite combiners, but I can’t decide which to go for between the two. Onslaught may be the easier of the two to get limbs for with Blast Off getting a release soon, but I’m not sure.
Posted by Emerje on July 16th, 2018 @ 3:16pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on July 16th, 2018 @ 3:17pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Hey, quick question:
Who would you all recommend between CW Silverbolt and Onslaught? They both look good, and they form the torsos of my 2 favorite combiners, but I can’t decide which to go for between the two. Onslaught may be the easier of the two to get limbs for with Blast Off getting a release soon, but I’m not sure.
Are you asking who is better between CW Silverbolt or Onslaught or who is better between CW Superion or Bruticus?
Because there are very different answers depending.
Here are some lists to help you:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ors/39357/
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... -g1/39500/
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 16th, 2018 @ 3:31pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 16th, 2018 @ 4:27pm CDT
I know there is a fan-mode to configure the Huffer/Pipes mold to fit in the open slot for the Optimus/Motormaster styled CW Voyager (which Toxitron is...) It's just with that pea-soup green, I'm not sure which would go better. I'm thinking Huffer *(considering Toxitron already has one orange HFG anyway...) But if anyone wants to make a case for Pipes (or Huffer), let me know...
Posted by RotorstormNZ on July 16th, 2018 @ 6:26pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Silverbolt is the torsobot that all other torsobots wish they could be. Simple and super effective transformation that's rock solid. Jet mode isn't particularly great though.
I'm a jet guy - and a Concorde guy - and seeing Silverbolt's jet mode really made me check out on him. I totally understand why he is the way he is though, a Concorde/Concorde-inspired transforming alt-mode seems impossible to pull off in toy form! MP Silverbolt would be an insane figure.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 16th, 2018 @ 7:45pm CDT
o.supreme, personally I would go with Huffer, only because orange looks good with green and purple. Pipes should go with BCOP.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 16th, 2018 @ 10:24pm CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 18th, 2018 @ 3:22pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:One quick and BIG warning with Silverbolt: the Superion head is prone to breaking off the hinge if not handled and moved properly. The issue was fixed with later releases of CW Scattershot, including UW Cyclonus, boxset and UW Scattershot, and other redecos and retools released around that time. Any version of Silverbolt is out of luck however
Whoa, I hadn’t heard of that issue before. Thanks for the heads up!
Edit: pun not intended
Silverbolt has arrived, and he’s really cool! Robot mode looks spot-on, the Superion torso looks awesome, and I actually like the alt-mode. I mean, yeah, it’s a robot doing yoga glued to the bottom of a jet, but it handles it much better than POTP Starscream.
Now unfortunately the only CW deluxe (and up until now only CW figure) I have is Prowl (which is ironic because CW is my favorite line from prime wars), so I’m having to get creative for limbs.
Now only if the Aerialbots didn’t cost an arm and a leg. . .
pun intended
Posted by gothsaurus on July 18th, 2018 @ 4:10pm CDT
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 19th, 2018 @ 7:39pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:As for why I think the CW Optimus/Motormaster mold prevents knee bend in gestalt mode unless you have the legs facing tires-side forward? I found out FROM EXPERIENCE that it does so. With the legs facing the intended way, several limbs will bump against the feet and have to be forced past to bend further. The Breakdown mold doesn't have any issues, but the Dead End/Streetwise mold does, especially the Streetwise version. Which makes it feel like the toy was designed more as a standalone Optimus, because you'd think -you'd hope - that if the mold was designed first as a combiner torso they'd have been paying better attention to clearances.
Well, from my experience, I've not had any trouble with bending the knees back 90 degrees on the Optimus/Motormaster mold. How are you getting "clearance issues?" Those wheels behind the legs don't bump into anything at the combination joint, nor on the back of any combiner limb. The robot mode feet of the Voyager torso stick off to the side. That's the intended configuration. Are you putting the feet at the back or front for some reason? That's not the correct configuration. Like I said before, I just earlier today played around with my Menasor after you made your complaints and found none of what you purported to be accurate. Why don't you take some pictures of what you think the problem is?
No, I'm putting the feet on the sides where they belong:
I just have Motormaster's tires facing forward, because when I have them on the back Dead End's doors like to bump on the edge of Motormaster's foot.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 19th, 2018 @ 7:58pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:As for why I think the CW Optimus/Motormaster mold prevents knee bend in gestalt mode unless you have the legs facing tires-side forward? I found out FROM EXPERIENCE that it does so. With the legs facing the intended way, several limbs will bump against the feet and have to be forced past to bend further. The Breakdown mold doesn't have any issues, but the Dead End/Streetwise mold does, especially the Streetwise version. Which makes it feel like the toy was designed more as a standalone Optimus, because you'd think -you'd hope - that if the mold was designed first as a combiner torso they'd have been paying better attention to clearances.
Well, from my experience, I've not had any trouble with bending the knees back 90 degrees on the Optimus/Motormaster mold. How are you getting "clearance issues?" Those wheels behind the legs don't bump into anything at the combination joint, nor on the back of any combiner limb. The robot mode feet of the Voyager torso stick off to the side. That's the intended configuration. Are you putting the feet at the back or front for some reason? That's not the correct configuration. Like I said before, I just earlier today played around with my Menasor after you made your complaints and found none of what you purported to be accurate. Why don't you take some pictures of what you think the problem is?
No, I'm putting the feet on the sides where they belong:
I just have Motormaster's tires facing forward, because when I have them on the back Dead End's doors like to bump on the edge of Motormaster's foot.
Can you turn your Motormaster's legs around the right way again (tires in back) and show me the clearance issue or bumping of the doors against the legs with pictures? I've got my (Unite Warriors) copy in the intended orientation, and I'm NOT getting the problems you're saying you are with the Dead End/Wildrider mold. I can get a 90 bend with no problem whatsoever.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 19th, 2018 @ 8:49pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 19th, 2018 @ 10:39pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 19th, 2018 @ 10:51pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 19th, 2018 @ 10:56pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 19th, 2018 @ 11:25pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 19th, 2018 @ 11:45pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Just tested it on my Optimus Prime and had the same problem. Which makes me wonder if it's a problem tied to the original version of the hip tooling - the feet are on the same sprue as the hips and pelvis after all. Unite Warriors Motormaster uses the retooled version of the hips.
That's entirely possible. I can't test that, unfortunately, as I only have versions of the mold with the fixed hips, Unite Warriors Motormaster and Convoy, Legends EX Grand Scourge, Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime, and TFSS Toxitron.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 12:38am CST
I think they botched Battle Core Optimus.
They gave him a new headsculpt based off of Star Convoy:
That's all well and good.
The screwup is that they still used the regular Optimus Prime combiner chest panels:
To further the Star Convoy homage, they should have used the Motormaster chest panels:
Like, just look at it! There's a blatant recreation of Star Convoy's chest there!
Posted by Emerje on December 16th, 2018 @ 4:48am CST
Emerje
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on December 16th, 2018 @ 4:53am CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 16th, 2018 @ 4:56am CST
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Whoa, I hadn’t heard of that issue before. Thanks for the heads up!
All you have to do to fix this is slice off the small tabs on the arm the head swings up on, especially since they only serve to break the head off
Though that might not be enough, the creamy plastic is particularly poor, but this will go a long way to helping avoid breaking
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 17th, 2018 @ 6:46pm CST
Posted by STngAR on October 13th, 2019 @ 9:01pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 13th, 2019 @ 9:17pm CDT
He does gain points for using the Lynx part in combined mode, plus his use as Liokaiser, and his sword (I like bots with swords). Shame he has no limbs to call his own, he could be a second Magnaboss.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 13th, 2019 @ 9:19pm CDT
Oh and his Sky Reign head is fantastic. golden lion head!
Posted by Sabrblade on October 13th, 2019 @ 11:32pm CDT
It's because he was a tail-ender that barely made it to normal retail brick-and-mortar stores.STngAR wrote:The price this figures goes for I'm wondering why.
Posted by Stargrave on October 14th, 2019 @ 12:58am CDT
Posted by Omegatron. on October 14th, 2019 @ 8:20am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 14th, 2019 @ 5:24pm CDT
Posted by Stargrave on October 14th, 2019 @ 5:55pm CDT
I took my lion head apart to try and custom a face in the maw Voltron style but kinda gave up on it. I like him mostly just as a Skylynx in the background of the CW/TR/PotP display.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 7th, 2020 @ 9:36pm CST
This is kind of random and weird, but for anyone who missed out on Combiner Wars and/or is looking for a few extra limbs, BBTS has the Combiner Wars Wave 6 deluxes as both a set of 4 and individually up for pre-order(?!?).
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 7th, 2020 @ 9:38pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Time to bring another old thread back from the dead.
This is kind of random and weird, but for anyone who missed out on Combiner Wars and/or is looking for a few extra limbs, BBTS has the Combiner Wars Wave 6 deluxes as both a set of 4 and individually up for pre-order(?!?).
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?S ... Brand=1971
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 7th, 2020 @ 10:44pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Time to bring another old thread back from the dead.
This is kind of random and weird, but for anyone who missed out on Combiner Wars and/or is looking for a few extra limbs, BBTS has the Combiner Wars Wave 6 deluxes as both a set of 4 and individually up for pre-order(?!?).
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?S ... Brand=1971
Wave 6 has the Sky Reign limbs, right? Wheeljack, Hound, Trailbreaker and RatchetSmokescreen?
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 8th, 2020 @ 6:55am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:Time to bring another old thread back from the dead.
This is kind of random and weird, but for anyone who missed out on Combiner Wars and/or is looking for a few extra limbs, BBTS has the Combiner Wars Wave 6 deluxes as both a set of 4 and individually up for pre-order(?!?).
https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Search?S ... Brand=1971
Wave 6 has the Sky Reign limbs, right? Wheeljack, Hound, Trailbreaker and RatchetSmokescreen?
Yep.
Posted by triKlops on April 8th, 2020 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 20th, 2020 @ 3:26pm CDT
I know that many of the legends class figures were designed as weapons and accessories for combiners, and many were not. Fortunately resourceful fans have fan-moded many of them.
*If* someone were ever to get a proper Modulus, what are your opinions on a fitting 6th member? I was thinking maybe Warpath? (as he is basically the last CW Legends Autobot unused by me), but there may be some from TAV or the PotP line I'm not thinking of.
Same question for Selects God Neptune what about CW Chopshop?
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 20th, 2020 @ 5:00pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 23rd, 2020 @ 4:02pm CDT
Now I need to apply the labels on my CW Defensor after sitting on them for around FIVE freaking years.
And then, I'll buy G1 Bruticus from my local TF store that will finally be allowed to reopen. I'll go there with my CW obsessed friend and he may binge on used stuff. Finally, when Japan Posts will manage to "unlock", I'll be able to import the UW Bruticus set from Mandarake. My friend may double-binge with UW Megatronia and maybe UW Bruticus as well. We will split the shipping cost then.
Posted by gothsaurus on May 26th, 2020 @ 9:45am CDT
You're really lucky to have a local friend with the same passion as you to order packages with! I'm in the same boat with you guys. Really loved the CW sets and have been sulking, waiting for the remaining characters (Seacons, Dinoking, Monstructor, etc.)
Megatronia is beautiful! Lots of retooling and a beautiful color scheme. Have to highly recommend that one. UW Bruticus also has some satisfying changes (like the retooled propellor blades). Even better if you can track down the upgrade feet that match his colors, but that's tough now. :^Z
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on May 27th, 2020 @ 1:46am CDT
gothsaurus wrote:@Kanrabat
You're really lucky to have a local friend with the same passion as you to order packages with! I'm in the same boat with you guys. Really loved the CW sets and have been sulking, waiting for the remaining characters (Seacons, Dinoking, Monstructor, etc.)
Megatronia is beautiful! Lots of retooling and a beautiful color scheme. Have to highly recommend that one. UW Bruticus also has some satisfying changes (like the retooled propellor blades). Even better if you can track down the upgrade feet that match his colors, but that's tough now. :^Z
I'd recommend Baldigus (Ruination) over Bruticus. But... I was also able to snag the TR Scourge/Nemesis Prime to go with him for RiD 2000/Car Robots love.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 27th, 2020 @ 8:57am CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:gothsaurus wrote:@Kanrabat
You're really lucky to have a local friend with the same passion as you to order packages with! I'm in the same boat with you guys. Really loved the CW sets and have been sulking, waiting for the remaining characters (Seacons, Dinoking, Monstructor, etc.)
Megatronia is beautiful! Lots of retooling and a beautiful color scheme. Have to highly recommend that one. UW Bruticus also has some satisfying changes (like the retooled propellor blades). Even better if you can track down the upgrade feet that match his colors, but that's tough now. :^Z
I'd recommend Baldigus (Ruination) over Bruticus. But... I was also able to snag the TR Scourge/Nemesis Prime to go with him for RiD 2000/Car Robots love.
I'll second Baldigus over Bruticus. The extra guns are really nice and the gold color really pops.