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Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target

Transformers News: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target

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Thanks to Seibertronian Thundertron for alerting us to the news that Kingdom Leader Class T-Wrecks is now available for preorder! He's on Target's website and/or app in the U.S., though as of now, he's only available to preorder to those who have Target's RedCard, which is a Target branded credit card, or a debit card tied to your personal debit card.

Transformers News: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target

Transformers News: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target

While he is available to RedCard holders for preorder now, previous information indicated that he'd be available for non-RedCard holders on July 25th, which is indicated as his release date. Thundertron (and myself) was able to place an order, with an arrival date of August 28th to September 2nd. If you have Early Access, you can place your order by clicking either picture above to be taken to his listing page. It should also be noted that even RedCard holders are limited to one figure only. Happy Hunting, Seibertronians!
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Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109965)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 12th, 2021 @ 2:51pm CDT
Ugh...that bland gray chest still irks me. I'm glad I have no attachment to this figure/character, makes this an easy pass.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109967)
Posted by M. Spector on July 12th, 2021 @ 3:14pm CDT
I'm really loving the dual heavy pistol thing Ravage has going AND how distinct the two modes are! Neat stuff. Probably in a week or two we'all get order/purchase info, meantime, still be waiting for Wave 3 Core class to hit here in the north :lol:
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109968)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 12th, 2021 @ 3:20pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Ugh...that bland gray chest still irks me. I'm glad I have no attachment to this figure/character, makes this an easy pass.


Accurate to the original tho, even if the color is off. I hope they catch on with the head in later runs.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109970)
Posted by Lore Keeper on July 12th, 2021 @ 3:45pm CDT
Ugh!!! I can't find my Red Card and had to order a replacement. Hopefully it shows up before the 25th. :(
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109971)
Posted by TOO MUCH ENERGON! on July 12th, 2021 @ 3:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:By the way, I must say, it's pretty funny to read a bunch of comments online that really make it seem like people have no clue what a panther is. And they talk with such certainty about an animal that doesn't exist haha

FYI to anyone who may not know, black panthers are not an actual animal/species. There is no such thing as a species of big cat that has fully black fur.

Some Jaguars, and some Leopards (two different species of big cats from different parts of the world) can sometimes have black on their fur along with their spots. And that's it.


TIL
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109972)
Posted by o.supreme on July 12th, 2021 @ 3:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:...Some Jaguars, and some Leopards (two different species of big cats from different parts of the world) can sometimes have black on their fur along with their spots. And that's it...


...and in even rarer cases, some Tigers ;)

Imagei know its not real
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109975)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 12th, 2021 @ 4:27pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Ugh...that bland gray chest still irks me. I'm glad I have no attachment to this figure/character, makes this an easy pass.


Same.
Plus I have on preorder the repaint that is actually worthwhile, the Jurassic Park T-Rex and he little friend.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109977)
Posted by primalxconvoy on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:09pm CDT
I wish they had written his name as "Covert Agent Rabich" on the box, in Russian script. Thanks to Beast Wars, I've retconned his accent whenever I've read comics with him talking in them in that accent.

I am sad that he never said "In Karn, energon drinks YOU!"...
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109978)
Posted by william-james88 on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:29pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Ugh...that bland gray chest still irks me. I'm glad I have no attachment to this figure/character, makes this an easy pass.


I have the original, which makes this a really easy pass. Plus, I'll get that Jurassic park set eventually so I'll already have more than enough of that T Rex mode.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109979)
Posted by aronjlove on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:35pm CDT
Not to derail the discussion, but does Tyrannocon have a faction? I know the vehicle is literally named Autobot JP93 so no confusion there but is the dino a Decepticon or a Predacon? The Amazon listing doesn't have any clues and I don't see a faction symbol, on either of them, in the pictures.
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Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109980)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:39pm CDT
Check the box:

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Also, separate thread right here. :)
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109981)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:40pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:Not to derail the discussion, but does Tyrannocon have a faction? I know the vehicle is literally named Autobot JP93 so no confusion there but is the dino a Decepticon or a Predacon? The Amazon listing doesn't have any clues and I don't see a faction symbol, on either of them, in the pictures.
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More than likely Autobot. None of the crossovers have been eeeevil and jurrasic park might not have given permission for the licence incase people remembered what they did in the 40s.. XD
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109982)
Posted by aronjlove on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:42pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Check the box.

You are correct, I guess I missed that
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Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109985)
Posted by william-james88 on July 12th, 2021 @ 5:45pm CDT
We have news that Transformers War for Cybertron Kingdom wave 3 have been found at US retail. Ian found them at a Target in Oregon. These are actually right on time, since online stores also have a due date of July 2021 and July is the first month of the 3rd quarter, when wave 3 is scheduled to come out. Here are the full contents of cases:

2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE SCORPONOK
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE WHEELJACK
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE WINGFINGER
2x TRA GEN WFC K DELUXE TRACKS

If you have found them, share your sightings with our community in the sightings section and on our boards in your region related thread.

This sighting was originally posted here.

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Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109986)
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 12th, 2021 @ 6:02pm CDT
Those poor wheeljacks left on the pegs
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109987)
Posted by Bounti76 on July 12th, 2021 @ 6:42pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Check the box.

You are correct, I guess I missed that
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She is definitely a Decepticon.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109988)
Posted by joevill on July 12th, 2021 @ 6:50pm CDT
thanks for the update, just placed my order!
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109992)
Posted by wolverinetodd on July 12th, 2021 @ 7:43pm CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Those poor wheeljacks left on the pegs


Then they'll keep all those SS86 Blurrs company.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2109998)
Posted by o.supreme on July 12th, 2021 @ 8:57pm CDT
SpikeyTigertron wrote:Those poor wheeljacks left on the pegs


They'll keep all the Arcee's company. In hindsight, if Hasbro wanted to rerelease ER Deluxes, they should have picked characters from wave 3, those had very little distribution in the United States. I never even saw them in store. I'm glad I ordered them online.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110003)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on July 12th, 2021 @ 9:41pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:I wish they had written his name as "Covert Agent Rabich" on the box, in Russian script.


I'm glad they didn't. Not only does using Russian letters as English not make any sense ("я" doesn't make an "r" noise) but it's also tacky as all hell and one of my biggest pet peeves.

Turning Ravage to Russian (using direct sounds) would look like: "Равэгж" or "Ravehj" (there is no J in Russian so you often combine their G and Zh letters). I'm not an expert in Russian, but I can just barely speak it.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110021)
Posted by Changewinds on July 13th, 2021 @ 12:36am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Changewinds wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:What a time to be alive as a beast wars fan! Of course we'll see if im singing the same tune once we know pricing and availability but man am I excited! His forearms are a little scrawny but he's great!

I love that the reviewer got excited about the upper body transformation (if I interpreted that correctly) and that he added "Wakanda forever" haha especially because I like to make other teams out of transformers characters and ravage would definitely be my Black Panther. And maybe shadow panther as Shuri


I’m excited by the upper body transformation too! :APPLAUSE:
Watching the review, I’m liking the way the arms fold in to fill the gap, the way the head has the extra piece to fill out the neck, the nice waist swivel, and just the overall aesthetic. It’s quite obvious that the head is a Tigertron repaint from the review so it’s interesting that we’ll see the “repaint” version before the actual version.

The head isn't Tigatron's as Tigatron is a Voyager in this line, more likely they've taken his transformation scheme and applied it to the cheetor retool


The head definitely looks like a black painted Tigertron head and it seems bigger than Cheetor’s head so I could still see it on a voyager sized body.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110030)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 13th, 2021 @ 3:51am CDT
Also Tigatron's head is more robot like, ravages head it literally just the Beast mode head.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110045)
Posted by khrome on July 13th, 2021 @ 9:00am CDT
2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110046)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 13th, 2021 @ 9:17am CDT
khrome wrote:Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?


One thing that I learned:
Wiping yourself with a Transformer is not comfortable. :(
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110047)
Posted by aronjlove on July 13th, 2021 @ 9:18am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
khrome wrote:Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?


One thing that I learned:
Wiping yourself with a Transformer is not comfortable. :(

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110050)
Posted by Spider5800 on July 13th, 2021 @ 9:53am CDT
:KREMZEEK:
khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?


Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110051)
Posted by sol magnus on July 13th, 2021 @ 10:04am CDT
Spider5800 wrote::KREMZEEK:
khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?


Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.

Maybe he has a kid. I have a kid. Some characters (not all by any stretch) I have to get two of. It does happen legitimately.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110056)
Posted by Spider5800 on July 13th, 2021 @ 10:31am CDT
sol magnus wrote:
Spider5800 wrote::KREMZEEK:
khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?


Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.

Maybe he has a kid. I have a kid. Some characters (not all by any stretch) I have to get two of. It does happen legitimately.


Do you really think he took ALL the copies of the new figures off the shelves for legit reasons? Because if so, I own a bridge you may be on the market for.

Come on, man, scalpers don't need you to defend them.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110058)
Posted by aronjlove on July 13th, 2021 @ 10:39am CDT
The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110060)
Posted by sol magnus on July 13th, 2021 @ 10:45am CDT
Spider5800 wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
Spider5800 wrote::KREMZEEK:
khrome wrote:2 per case and he took the whole case.
This is why no one can ever find anything.

Did you people learn nothing from the toilet paper crisis?


Yeah, stuff like this is why I order online anymore.

"They're in stores, guys! I mean, not this store now, because I took 'em all, but maybe where you are they'll show up soon!"

At least half of those are already on Ebay.

Maybe he has a kid. I have a kid. Some characters (not all by any stretch) I have to get two of. It does happen legitimately.


Do you really think he took ALL the copies of the new figures off the shelves for legit reasons? Because if so, I own a bridge you may be on the market for.

Come on, man, scalpers don't need you to defend them.


I'm not defending him. I'm just saying there's room for someone to buy more than one and NOT be a scalper. maybe the guy just wants two. Or has a buddy who also collects. OR, maybe he is a scalper. I don't know that for certain, so I'm not sure how you do.

I don't like scalpers any more than you do, but generalizations are bad.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110061)
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2021 @ 10:52am CDT
aronjlove wrote:The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.


I'm not taking sides here. Just pointing out that my experience in the last year when it comes to new product; "grabbing a couple" = "emptying the shelves". But if you live in a place where they have tons of em', by all means go for it.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110066)
Posted by aronjlove on July 13th, 2021 @ 11:24am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
aronjlove wrote:The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.


I'm not taking sides here. Just pointing out that my experience in the last year when it comes to new product; "grabbing a couple" = "emptying the shelves". But if you live in a place where they have tons of em', by all means go for it.

This is very true, and I am extremely lucky to live in an area with good distribution. I can't toss a brick without hitting a Walmart.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110076)
Posted by o.supreme on July 13th, 2021 @ 12:36pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:This is very true, and I am extremely lucky to live in an area with good distribution. I can't toss a brick without hitting a Walmart.


Lots of stores does not equate to great distributing either unfortunately. I can drive to 20 Walmarts in a 30 mile radius of my home, but they have very little Transformers in stock most times. I also have probably 10 Targets. They do a little better, but not much. Ironically, more often than not I am able to find what I'm looking for at the closest ones, but it is always random.

I am starting my vacation later this week, which will entail 8 day road trip across most of the western US (CA, NV, UT, ID, MT, WY, WA, OR). I'm sure I'll be hitting plenty of Walmarts and Targets along the way to stock up on provisions, it will be interesting to see what they have/don't have as far as Transformers.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110096)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2021 @ 3:25pm CDT
Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110098)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on July 13th, 2021 @ 5:33pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly


It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110099)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 13th, 2021 @ 5:51pm CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly


It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.


I hope you're right!!
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110116)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 13th, 2021 @ 8:13pm CDT
I got my T-Wrecks preorder in, looking forward to a red Rex. He looks sweet and I am excite.

Ravage looks incredible. That is a set I will get. Thank Primus I went for Pulse Premium.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110167)
Posted by khrome on July 14th, 2021 @ 10:41am CDT
aronjlove wrote:The pics originate from a Facebook group, something about buying and selling Transformers, so he grabbed an extra to sell in the group. There's a rather large difference between grabbing a couple and emptying the shelves.



That just sounds like scalping with extra steps.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110169)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:07am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly


It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.


I hope you're right!!


Forget the green faux eyes on Grimlock’s beast mode! I’d rather the production run fix the shoulder cannon snafu with Mirage.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110170)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:10am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly


It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.


I hope you're right!!


Forget the green faux eyes on Grimlock’s beast mode! I’d rather the production run fix the shoulder cannon snafu with Mirage.

Selfishly, I don't want that change. I'm happy to be skipping at least one of the WfC earth mode updates. I already repurchased Datsuns and Lambos, this is $50 I don't have to spend.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110171)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:15am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Primevsprime put up a review of the Mirage and grimlock set
Looks like I was wrong, grimlocks fake eyes on the chest are unpainted sadly


It's an early sample (he doesn't show the box, so it's not a production run). It's possible that the production run will include the extra paint ops on the faux eyes.


I hope you're right!!


Forget the green faux eyes on Grimlock’s beast mode! I’d rather the production run fix the shoulder cannon snafu with Mirage.


To be honest I don't really care about Mirage enough to care about the shoulder thing. He was always just kind of a bonus to getting grimlock since I never got siege version. I was just gonna put Deep Cover's shoulder cannon on Mirage's back and use the port to mount Mirages shoulder cannon like I've seen on instagram from kremzeekreviews and a couple others. Easy fix, and not a big deal. Mirage at least has a good paint job
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110173)
Posted by Rtron on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:44am CDT
I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110175)
Posted by Autobot N on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:49am CDT
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.
People need something to complain about
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110176)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:55am CDT
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.


It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110177)
Posted by aronjlove on July 14th, 2021 @ 11:58am CDT
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.

I'm sorry, what was improved? The word implies something better, and this ain't it. Of course, that's just my opinion.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110178)
Posted by Rtron on July 14th, 2021 @ 12:03pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.


It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.


It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110179)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 14th, 2021 @ 12:14pm CDT
Rtron wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.


It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.


It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

The problem is though, that is a lot of effort to fix something that was never broken. Like people wanting Earth Mode Sideswipe, the Siege one was clearly an earth car wanting to pretend to be a Cybertronian.

It's great that you like it, but bare in mind that some don't and their problems with the mold, aren't imaginary.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110180)
Posted by Rtron on July 14th, 2021 @ 12:26pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.


It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.


It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

The problem is though, that is a lot of effort to fix something that was never broken. Like people wanting Earth Mode Sideswipe, the Siege one was clearly an earth car wanting to pretend to be a Cybertronian.

It's great that you like it, but bare in mind that some don't and their problems with the mold, aren't imaginary.


Never said it was imaginary, in fact, I suggested a fix for it. I wouldn't suggest a fix for something "imaginary". It's just that it seems like a shame to pass on a figure that improves on the previous one on like five things just because it's worse on one other thing, and one that's very easily fixable at that. You can't change Siege Mirage's transformation scheme and tampos and clear plastic and molding. But you can very easily make a DIY shoulder mount for Kingdom Mirage's cannon.

Here's what I mean about the alt mode:
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Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 14th, 2021 @ 12:42pm CDT
Rtron wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Rtron wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Rtron wrote:I don't get all the drama about Mirage's shoulder cannon. It's just ONE missing feature, lost because of how the improved transformation works. And you can fix it pretty easily.


It’s because the figure lost functionality with this Earthmode “upgrade.” The remolded parts also look less on model to the G1 cartoon than the Siege version. They went out of their way to “fix” something that was never broken. All they needed to do was ditch the clear plastic and change some tampographs.


It looks more accurate now though? It has a less bulky spoiler, looks more like a racecar, and the fake robot chest is not showing in altmode. And the shoulder cannon IS included. Making the cannon would be difficult, but mounting it is a matter of just finding something to hold it. You can mount it using an adapter you make yourself, out of whatever you find lying around, it's literally an L shaped strut with a peg on one end and a hole at the other end. If you want to get fancy, you can 3D print one. You don't even have to design it, the internet will be SWARMING with free printables to mount the cannon on his shoulder.

The problem is though, that is a lot of effort to fix something that was never broken. Like people wanting Earth Mode Sideswipe, the Siege one was clearly an earth car wanting to pretend to be a Cybertronian.

It's great that you like it, but bare in mind that some don't and their problems with the mold, aren't imaginary.


Never said it was imaginary, in fact, I suggested a fix for it. I wouldn't suggest a fix for something "imaginary". It's just that it seems like a shame to pass on a figure that improves on the previous one on like five things just because it's worse on one other thing, and one that's very easily fixable at that. You can't change Siege Mirage's transformation scheme and tampos and clear plastic and molding. But you can very easily make a DIY shoulder mount for Kingdom Mirage's cannon.

Here's what I mean about the alt mode:
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My biggest desire for an earth mode Mirage was never an incremental revision of his Siege version but a model closer to his real car inspiration. The CW Mirage retool from Dragstrip is more faithful to his alt mode than the Siege or Kingdom versions. If I'm not going to get a better car, and I'm going to lose the shoulder cannon too, it's not a net improvement.

I'm not mad about either of these things, there might be legal concerns with the relatively unique car model, and I get that a new transformation means making choices like with the cannon. It's disappointing to expect "improved" when it's not, but for me that means I'm satisfied with the original.
Re: Kingdom T-Wrecks Available for Preorder Via RedCard Early Access at Target (2110190)
Posted by Rtron on July 14th, 2021 @ 12:49pm CDT
Here you go: a little piece that could peg on Mirage's back and hold the cannon. I can't afford the box set because I live very, very far away from USA and Japan and we have very high taxes, but if someone is up for carefully measuring the necessary distances, I'll put them in the 3D model, add some greeble to make it look cooler, and upload it somewhere for free.

I'm not trying to make anyone feel like their opinions don't matter, it just seems like a shame to miss out on something you want because of a minor issue.

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