Listing for New Amazon Exclusive Battle Across Time Collection Featuring BW Grimlock and Mirage

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Releasing Siege Mirage for a 4th time???

Does Hasbro know that hardly anybody was able to find Titans Return Windblade, Misfire or Twin Twist? I mean those 3 figures just barely got released 1 time. I know a lot of fans never saw them in stores at all, myself included.

What's so special about the Siege Mirage mold to make it deserving of 4 releases? Am I missing something here? Is it related to BW Grimlock in some way?

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Releasing Siege Mirage for a 4th time???

Does Hasbro know that hardly anybody was able to find Titans Return Windblade, Misfire or Twin Twist? I mean those 3 figures just barely got released 1 time. I know a lot of fans never saw them in stores at all, myself included.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

This image is getting passed around as a leak of Grimlock and it looks like complete bull to me. But I dunno, everyone else seems to be believing it

The plastic looks wrong (and inconsistent) and the spots look edited.

aronjlove wrote:Amazon UK listing

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

This image is getting passed around as a leak of Grimlock and it looks like complete bull to me. But I dunno, everyone else seems to be believing it

The plastic looks wrong (and inconsistent) and the spots look edited.

william-james88 wrote:The other two pack rumoured to come out in this line would be Sideswipe and a redeco of Airazor as Beast Wars II Skywarp.

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Releasing Siege Mirage for a 4th time???

Does Hasbro know that hardly anybody was able to find Titans Return Windblade, Misfire or Twin Twist? I mean those 3 figures just barely got released 1 time. I know a lot of fans never saw them in stores at all, myself included.

What's so special about the Siege Mirage mold to make it deserving of 4 releases? Am I missing something here? Is it related to BW Grimlock in some way?

Stealth Claw wrote:

Nemesis Reformatted wrote:Releasing Siege Mirage for a 4th time???

Does Hasbro know that hardly anybody was able to find Titans Return Windblade, Misfire or Twin Twist? I mean those 3 figures just barely got released 1 time. I know a lot of fans never saw them in stores at all, myself included.

What's so special about the Siege Mirage mold to make it deserving of 4 releases? Am I missing something here? Is it related to BW Grimlock in some way?

I have no idea where the the concept art come from but theirs a wiki page for a BW Mirage that is unrelated to the G1 Mirage. https://beastwarstransformers.fandom.co ... Mirage_(BW)
I personally think it would be awesome to get a brand new beast wars figure based an a new animal form. I doubt it will happen as we'll prob just get a sige repaint, but I'll hope for a new mold.

Stealth Claw wrote:I have no idea where the the concept art come from but theirs a wiki page for a BW Mirage that is unrelated to the G1 Mirage. https://beastwarstransformers.fandom.co ... Mirage_(BW)

primalxconvoy wrote:Apparently, there's a leaked/digibashed photo of Grimlock here:

- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... on&paipv=0

178662636_10158199509522291_3359848731743634196_n.jpg

Sabrblade wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Apparently, there's a leaked/digibashed photo of Grimlock here:

- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... on&paipv=0

178662636_10158199509522291_3359848731743634196_n.jpg

Scroll up ten posts up the page.

primalxconvoy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:Apparently, there's a leaked/digibashed photo of Grimlock here:

- https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... on&paipv=0

178662636_10158199509522291_3359848731743634196_n.jpg

Scroll up ten posts up the page.

Thanks, sorry. Oh well, at least this new one is rotated correctly, for our viewing pleasure...

primalxconvoy wrote:It always pays to hold off on buying TFs you're not happy with, as another version will usually come out again later.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:It always pays to hold off on buying TFs you're not happy with, as another version will usually come out again later.

Ermmmmm, that's kind of what I thought the one time I saw TR Misfire, Twin Twist, and Perceptor on store pegs, and passed because their paint jobs weren't quite up to snuff. The gaps in that "usually" usually lead to $100 markups on ebay. The moral is, in a world where nothing is what it seems, ya' never know, so if you want it, buy it now and consider selling it later.

If I don't like the Mirage my Kingdom Grimlock comes with, he might just go my 3rd cousins like Netflix Hound did.

Bumblevivisector wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:It always pays to hold off on buying TFs you're not happy with, as another version will usually come out again later.

Ermmmmm, that's kind of what I thought the one time I saw TR Misfire, Twin Twist, and Perceptor on store pegs, and passed because their paint jobs weren't quite up to snuff. The gaps in that "usually" usually lead to $100 markups on ebay. The moral is, in a world where nothing is what it seems, ya' never know, so if you want it, buy it now and consider selling it later.

If I don't like the Mirage my Kingdom Grimlock comes with, he might just go my 3rd cousins like Netflix Hound did.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

This image is getting passed around as a leak of Grimlock and it looks like complete bull to me. But I dunno, everyone else seems to be believing it

The plastic looks wrong (and inconsistent) and the spots look edited.

william-james88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

This image is getting passed around as a leak of Grimlock and it looks like complete bull to me. But I dunno, everyone else seems to be believing it

The plastic looks wrong (and inconsistent) and the spots look edited.

Plastic looks wrong cause it's a fake pic. Here's the original
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/ ... t-19068108

ZeroWolf wrote:So came across a post else where which says something I've been musing, that the Dinobots are going to be split between two lines, with two being in the follow up to Kingdom.

ZeroWolf wrote:So came across a post else where which says something I've been musing, that the Dinobots are going to be split between two lines, with two being in the follow up to Kingdom.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Seeing as this product description implies that these 2-packs have both a designated subline name and lore behind them, I'm curious to see just how many of them there are, if it's more than the 2 we have listings for already. I could easily see there being some Con ones with some combination of Loudpedal, Slicer, Sandstorm or Double Punch, Buzzsaw, some of the Seekers we're still missing, etc.

ZeroWolf wrote:So came across a post else where which says something I've been musing, that the Dinobots are going to be split between two lines, with two being in the follow up to Kingdom.

...gonna be honest, it looks like that account was made today and most of that list is stuff that's already been leaked/rumored/hinted at by other actually credible leakers, so I'm not fully on board with this one yet. It certainly COULD be legit, but I'm skeptical for now.

plus how would a Galvatron II be any different from the already rumored/leaked Selects Toy colors Galvatron

ZeroWolf wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Seeing as this product description implies that these 2-packs have both a designated subline name and lore behind them, I'm curious to see just how many of them there are, if it's more than the 2 we have listings for already. I could easily see there being some Con ones with some combination of Loudpedal, Slicer, Sandstorm or Double Punch, Buzzsaw, some of the Seekers we're still missing, etc.

ZeroWolf wrote:So came across a post else where which says something I've been musing, that the Dinobots are going to be split between two lines, with two being in the follow up to Kingdom.

...gonna be honest, it looks like that account was made today and most of that list is stuff that's already been leaked/rumored/hinted at by other actually credible leakers, so I'm not fully on board with this one yet. It certainly COULD be legit, but I'm skeptical for now.

plus how would a Galvatron II be any different from the already rumored/leaked Selects Toy colors Galvatron

I took Galvatron II to be the Selects Galvatron to be fair. However, the fact that they are new and contained some well known stuff is why I haven't newsed it yet. I'm more intrigued about the line breakdowns but, if other leakers back them up, then I'll act on it.

1) There's no Beast Wars or Armada, but there's one new Prime mold... because apparently both Prime Optimus and Prime Bulkhead share a figure.
2) They also claim that all of the Insecticons are being made in SS86 over the next 0-2 years... yet only Shrapnel has had any known work done on them.
3) Blitzwing was rumoured for 2022 last year, but was later said to have been canned

Sowndwave76 wrote:And when someone fakes "leaked info"... I really don't get it... The person is hiding behind a fake identity to begin with... And what's the reward when your info is proven wrong?
You misled people and possibly got someone excited about something that really isn't happening?
Cool, bro.

Autobot N wrote:People do that because they perceive that it's hilarious to prank people on the internet. The reward is the feeling of entitlement that they tricked a bunch of people, which makes them feel intellectually superior

blackeyedprime wrote:Dinobot might have to cannibalise one of these Mattel guys for parts and the Hasbro peeps should take note of what dino hands could look like on a figure

blackeyedprime wrote:Dinobot might have to cannibalise one of these Mattel guys for parts and the Hasbro peeps should take note of what dino hands could look like on a figure

blackeyedprime wrote:Nothing animation accurate about those hands and if they were going the animation route on the figures, Black arachnia should have her alt mode parts (pedipalps or whatever they are called) -unless she doesnt have them in the kingdom part of WFc.

ZeroWolf wrote:So came across a post else where which says something I've been musing, that the Dinobots are going to be split between two lines, with two being in the follow up to Kingdom.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:So came across a post else where which says something I've been musing, that the Dinobots are going to be split between two lines, with two being in the follow up to Kingdom.

It doesn't pass the smell test with me. A lot of it is just repeated information, and it's not even completely accurate for the stuff we now know, like the Amazon 2-Pack with Earthmode Mirage. It was speculated early on that he would come with Beast Wars II Skywarp, but we now know that it will be Beast Wars Grimlock, per the Amazon Australia listing. The best maybe we can say is that the leaker is passing along fairly old information right now.

Nemesis Primal wrote:They apparently merged the threads because they now think the new guy is legit, I'm still on the fence personally.

Autobot N wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:They apparently merged the threads because they now think the new guy is legit, I'm still on the fence personally.

I think he gave some new info (IIRC, that the name of next year's line is Evolution) that the main leaker guy agreed with, so people are more inclined to trust him now. Still not sure if I do, though

Overcracker wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Dinobot might have to cannibalise one of these Mattel guys for parts and the Hasbro peeps should take note of what dino hands could look like on a figure

They are not going for anatomical accuracy, they are going for animation accuracy (and being able to transform).

That's what Dinobot's hands looked like in the show mostly:

dinbothands.jpg

And technically speaking that's what Velociraptor's hands have always been shown to look like in the past when the show was made:

raptorhands.jpg

raptoirhands2.jpg

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Dinobot might have to cannibalise one of these Mattel guys for parts and the Hasbro peeps should take note of what dino hands could look like on a figure

They are not going for anatomical accuracy, they are going for animation accuracy (and being able to transform).

That's what Dinobot's hands looked like in the show mostly:

dinbothands.jpg

And technically speaking that's what Velociraptor's hands have always been shown to look like in the past when the show was made:

raptorhands.jpg

raptoirhands2.jpg

Not really true tbh. Any depiction of a Velociraptor (or honestly many, many other species of theropod) with its hands hanging down was always anatomically incorrect, even based on the now-outdated reconstructions from the time. Velociraptors could not rotate their hands to face downwards (or pronate them, as is the technical term), it was literally anatomically impossible, and that was known at the time. Velociraptors could only hold their hands with the inside surfaces/"palm" equivalent facing each other.

ALSO: I think Dinobot's hands are shaped that way to hold the Golden Disks like in the show.

Autobot N wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:They apparently merged the threads because they now think the new guy is legit, I'm still on the fence personally.

I think he gave some new info (IIRC, that the name of next year's line is Evolution) that the main leaker guy agreed with, so people are more inclined to trust him now. Still not sure if I do, though