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o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, the Prelude video was him giving an internal monologue, a bout of inward self-reflection, proclaiming his reformation..

Was it internal??...I never took it that way... and even if it was, the best sociopaths are the ones that lie to themselves.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:His betrayal in this episode just renders that Prelude a complete and utter lie to the audience

which is what Starscream does best...just sayin... No need to go on a huge long rant to defend your point. I know I am the lone wolf here...just so long as we know there is no right or wrong...just differing opinions.

Prime1701 wrote:I think Rodimus was not chosen because he was missing an arm, and Starscream was not.

Sabrblade wrote:Incoming rant:

To all those who keep saying we should have expected this from Starscream because this is how he's supposed to be because "He's Starscream!"...

We were promised a new Starscream, a different Starscream, a more mature, self-aware, developed Starscream who has grown past his past ambitions after having actually fulfilled the ambitions he had so longed for, as given by his Prelude video:



This video presented us with a Starscream who actually had intrigue and newfound wisdom. A take on Starscream that promised several possibilities for a great wealth of potential. It laid the foundations and precedent for this show's Starscream to having grown out of his desire for power and authority because he had finally acquired the power and authority he sought for so long... and realized that having said power and authority wasn't all it's cracked up to be.

This video showed a promising new start for Starscream trying to better assume a role of responsibility and duty with a genuine concern for the greater good of Cybertron. And up until this latest episode, he gave every impression of living up to that role described in his Prelude.

Then, along comes the end of episode 6, in which he suddenly pulls a heel-face turn and goes back to being the ambitious Starscream that he used to be before he matured, doing so completely without any precedent besides the shallow reason of "because he's Starscream".

That is both awful and lazy storytelling, made even worse by their doing such to one of the show's only two interesting characters. There was no subtlety to be read into Starscream's behavior leading up to his betrayal. It came completely out of nowhere and contradicted everything this show had done to establish its Starscream as reformed prior to this point.

This wasn't him "playing the long game", it was him getting his newfound personality completely and hastily overridden by his older one for no other reason than to surprise the viewers watching this show. Disregard everything you know about the typical Starscream-type character, pretending that you're a new viewer to Transformers watching this show as your first ever exposure to TF fiction, and you'd see that Starscream's betrayal was completely forced.

It's fine if anyone here prefers the traditional backstabbing take on Starscream, yes. But up until episode 6 happened, this wasn't that kind of Starscream. One can argue "He's Starscream!" all they want, but up until now, he wasn't THAT Starscream anymore. It doesn't matter if whether his going back to being a double-crosser "makes him right again" or not, it ruined the integrity of this version of the character's portrayal, rendering said portrayal both inconsistent and convoluted in the grand scheme of things, and that's bad for any kind of serious work of fiction that's trying (or at least thinks it's trying) to do a good job with its story and characters in a sensible, non-comical way.

For all this show's faults, it's clear that it at least thinks it's trying to do a seriously good quality job, but seems completely oblivious to all its wrongdoings (in this case, making Starscream turn on the others at the last minute when there's no precedent for him to do so).

fenrir72 wrote:Didn't even foresee that those intro movies were a red herring? Designed to confuse/cover up the plot?

I have the feel of the Underbase Saga. Old SS is gonna get the "hives" from being ODed with the enigma and explode in the end. Or see Jeebus aka Primus at the end of the tunnel and repent.

1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream... Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.

1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.

Autobot N wrote:

1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.

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You've got to be kidding me.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Autobot N wrote:

1984forever wrote::lol: all the complaints about Starscream being treacherous.

I was actually surprised that Starscream crapped on everybody for a second. But then my surprise was overshadowed by happiness that the old Starscream was back. My Starscream. Character development is so overrated. Characters change and then go right back to how you first were introduced to them with the next franchise reboot. Why bother? Just keep everyone the same.

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You've got to be kidding me.

He's not.

I preferred the character development, but poor Screamer fell victim to the show

Gaudreau wrote:It's been a mediocre show, but I enjoy it for what it is. I wish there were more characters and character development; but I get it's hard to do that in a 5 minute show. I look forward to the new shows and that's that

Guido wrote:The Computron art is based on my model sheet pencils too