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Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence

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We've seen two variant covers, by Nick Roche/Josh Burcham and Alex Milne/Josh Perez, for IDW Publishing's Transformers: Lost Light #6 - but now, thanks to IDW directly, we have the main Jack Lawrence (with Joana Lafuente? credits, IDW, please) artwork too. And it features a very determined Megatron. Check it out below!

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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884303)
Posted by Kurona on May 25th, 2017 @ 6:41pm CDT
Honestly, this cover is perfect. For the same sort of reason just a single fist works as a cover; despite the simplicity, the single action represented and focused on means a lot. I'm really excited to see Megatron kick ass this issue :D
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884326)
Posted by Randomhero on May 25th, 2017 @ 8:41pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Honestly, this cover is perfect. For the same sort of reason just a single fist works as a cover; despite the simplicity, the single action represented and focused on means a lot. I'm really excited to see Megatron kick ass this issue :D



Yeah that's what everyone was certainly expecting in dying of the light and he certainly did shoot a fusion cannon for 2 pages and used black magic to rip up the DJD to nothingness. Let's not kid ourselves. He's not going to throw any punches in this issue.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884328)
Posted by Kurona on May 25th, 2017 @ 8:47pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:Honestly, this cover is perfect. For the same sort of reason just a single fist works as a cover; despite the simplicity, the single action represented and focused on means a lot. I'm really excited to see Megatron kick ass this issue :D



Yeah that's what everyone was certainly expecting in dying of the light and he certainly did shoot a fusion cannon for 2 pages and used black magic to rip up the DJD to nothingness. Let's not kid ourselves. He's not going to throw any punches in this issue.

Well, I didn't mean literally kick ass, just... kick ass at being a great character.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884354)
Posted by WreckerJack on May 25th, 2017 @ 11:41pm CDT
Does anyone see a problem with the preview?

(Jus havin' a chuckle till they fix it)

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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884374)
Posted by Va'al on May 26th, 2017 @ 3:51am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:Does anyone see a problem with the preview?

(Jus havin' a chuckle till they fix it)

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A bold new direction, and look, for the Lost Light crew!
Who knew the Functionist universe would lead to this..?
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884396)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 26th, 2017 @ 6:49am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Kurona wrote:Honestly, this cover is perfect. For the same sort of reason just a single fist works as a cover; despite the simplicity, the single action represented and focused on means a lot. I'm really excited to see Megatron kick ass this issue :D



Yeah that's what everyone was certainly expecting in dying of the light and he certainly did shoot a fusion cannon for 2 pages and used black magic to rip up the DJD to nothingness. Let's not kid ourselves. He's not going to throw any punches in this issue.
Yeah, I wish he had laid down a little more carnage with the cannon, but I thought it was a clever way how he trapped Tarn inside the force field, even if their actual showdown was lackluster. It kinda gave Trailbreaker a bit of redemption though.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1884996)
Posted by ScottyP on May 29th, 2017 @ 6:22pm CDT
Joining the roster of covers for Transformers: Lost Light #6 is the ten copy retailer incentive cover by Marcelo Matere. This cover was posted by IDW Publishing onto their official site's page for Lost Light #6. It features Rung, one of the central characters in the "Dissolution" arc, adjusting his glasses while reading a data pad. Just like Rung, this is probably totally innocent behavior that readers should certainly not look into too deeply.

Check it out below, and speculate away by replying to this post on our Energon Pub Forums.

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As of this writing, Transformers: Lost Light #6 is expected to be released on June 7th, 2017.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885132)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2017 @ 11:21am CDT
This is more about MTMTE than Lost light, but knew I would reach the same people by posting here without resurrecting an older thread.

I read a good part of MTMTE but got really burned by Dark Cybertron. I dont even know if I read it all. I got back into MTMTE with issue 50 and read steadily since but of course there is a gap in between I have been slowly getting though. Was reading the arc with Megatron's trial (which is still topical because now I know who Terminus is and they keep speaking of the Trial in LL) and I saw this dude:

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Who in the world is that? I remember Swerve said there shouldnt be people on the Lost Light who remind him of Prowl (as a joke sure, but I still thought that meant there werent any). UNless it is indeed bluestreak. Was that the bot who Swerve was joking to? He seemed to be blue, not grey.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885134)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 11:23am CDT
william-james88 wrote:This is more about MTMTE than Lost light, but knew I would reach the same people by posting here without resurrecting an older thread.

I read a good part of MTMTE but got really burned by Dark Cybertron. I dont even know if I read it all. I got back into MTMTE with issue 50 and read steadily since but of course there is a gap in between I have been slowly getting though. Was reading the arc with Megatron's trial (which is still topical because now I know who Terminus is and they keep speaking of the Trial in LL) and I saw this dude:

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Who in the world is that? I remember Swerve said there shouldnt be people on the Lost Light who remind him of Prowl (as a joke sure, but I still thought that meant there werent any). UNless it is indeed bluestreak. Was that the bot who Swerve was joking to? He seemed to be blue, not grey.

That's Bluestreak. He's a secondary character who shows up a bit more in other stories pre-50.

His colour scheme in this is a bit weird though - like they're trying to combine the original with some actual blue. I dig it, mind.

As a general rule, Swerve says anything to be a dick. Love him.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885135)
Posted by william-james88 on May 30th, 2017 @ 11:30am CDT
Kurona wrote:
william-james88 wrote:This is more about MTMTE than Lost light, but knew I would reach the same people by posting here without resurrecting an older thread.

I read a good part of MTMTE but got really burned by Dark Cybertron. I dont even know if I read it all. I got back into MTMTE with issue 50 and read steadily since but of course there is a gap in between I have been slowly getting though. Was reading the arc with Megatron's trial (which is still topical because now I know who Terminus is and they keep speaking of the Trial in LL) and I saw this dude:

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Who in the world is that? I remember Swerve said there shouldnt be people on the Lost Light who remind him of Prowl (as a joke sure, but I still thought that meant there werent any). UNless it is indeed bluestreak. Was that the bot who Swerve was joking to? He seemed to be blue, not grey.

That's Bluestreak. He's a secondary character who shows up a bit more in other stories pre-50.

His colour scheme in this is a bit weird though - like they're trying to combine the original with some actual blue. I dig it, mind.

As a general rule, Swerve says anything to be a dick. Love him.


Thanks. the colours looked very different than just the previous issue where we saw him like this:

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So I was confused.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885345)
Posted by ScottyP on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:48pm CDT
IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s. They're better lately, to be fair.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885348)
Posted by Kurona on May 30th, 2017 @ 8:58pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.

Dude... those words are hurtful words.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885356)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 30th, 2017 @ 9:21pm CDT
To be fair, around issue 28/29 of MTMTE was when there was a colorist change, and there were several notable changes in colorings, such as Bluestreak's paint work and Magnus' thighs
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885362)
Posted by SureShot18 on May 30th, 2017 @ 9:44pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s. They're better lately, to be fair.

Hey now, I don't ever remember seeing two Starscreams in the same panel. :-P

Yeah I guess that's fair. Colors and designs have been wonky at times, but that is sort of the nature of a comic book, I guess. Different artists and colorists throughout a run, and all.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885600)
Posted by ScottyP on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:14pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.

Dude... those words are hurtful words.
I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.

There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885601)
Posted by Kurona on May 31st, 2017 @ 8:15pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.

Dude... those words are hurtful words.
I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.

There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.

Aww, man, now I have to defend my favourite Spotlight? You wound me. You wound me.

But you also said New Avengers vs. Transformers was bad, so it's only skin-deep! Wheeeee~
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885682)
Posted by ScottyP on May 31st, 2017 @ 10:36pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.

Dude... those words are hurtful words.
I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.

There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.

Aww, man, now I have to defend my favourite Spotlight? You wound me. You wound me.

But you also said New Avengers vs. Transformers was bad, so it's only skin-deep! Wheeeee~
I love Spotlight: Blaster. Fun story, neat twist, and my friend Robby Musso crushed it on the art. I was picking at it from the continuity perspective only, as nothing in it has ever been revisited - not even by John Barber!
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1885798)
Posted by Kurona on June 1st, 2017 @ 6:27am CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Kurona wrote:
ScottyP wrote:IDW is about as consistent with colors and designs as Sunbow was in the 80s.

Dude... those words are hurtful words.
I lived through Phase 1. One issue at a time. For every awesome moment like Stormbringer, there were times like New Avengers vs. Transformers. For every greatly cultivated continuity payoff like Devastation, there was a Spotlight: Blaster.

There were also at least 85.3 regular artists working under a laissez faire editorial reign. This is greatly exaggerated, of course, but by that last year in 2011 there was 0 consistency anywhere.

Aww, man, now I have to defend my favourite Spotlight? You wound me. You wound me.

But you also said New Avengers vs. Transformers was bad, so it's only skin-deep! Wheeeee~
I love Spotlight: Blaster. Fun story, neat twist, and my friend Robby Musso crushed it on the art. I was picking at it from the continuity perspective only, as nothing in it has ever been revisited - not even by John Barber!

Oh thank god.


That's actually partly what I like about it though - that it doesn't need to be revisited or referenced or fit into anywhere. It's just allowed to tell its own self-contained story using the universe they'd built. I love seeing stuff like that and it's kind of one of the things the Spotlight line was made for.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886287)
Posted by Kurona on June 2nd, 2017 @ 11:03am CDT
Eyyyy what's up just getting us back on topic with this awesome print of the main cast by Nick Roche. Apparently it's the lines for the first of this season's convention prints!

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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886346)
Posted by Va'al on June 2nd, 2017 @ 3:34pm CDT
Courtesy of Newsarama, we have the full preview of next week's IDW Publishing Transformers: Lost Light #6 - the final issue in the first arc for the newly titled series! There are some potential spoilers for those of you who'd rather wait until reading it in full, but otherwise, check it out below!

Transformers: Lost Light #6
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a & c)
You know that sinking feeling you get when you witness the destruction of an entire planet? Rodimus and company are about to feel that. Hardcore.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
· Six issues in...the end of Lost Light?!
· OK, not likely. But a lot of people could die now!
· Variant cover by Marcelo Matere!


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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886365)
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 2nd, 2017 @ 4:21pm CDT
You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.






So what do you think the Getaway gang (props if you remember them from the 80's) are up to?
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886368)
Posted by Randomhero on June 2nd, 2017 @ 4:29pm CDT
The idea of Unicron ever appearing destroys the entire religious foundation of IDW: it's belief over fact. Just like our own world, religion is not proven. It's about what you believe in. That's why the thirteen are not the children of primus in IDW, they're just powerful transformers. It's why we've never seen the knights, the guiding hand or primus himself or even the mention of unicorns name.

To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.


As for getaway and the lost light? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Why? Because they literally abandoned Rodimus and everyone two days prior. This series is still taking place 3 weeks behind issue 50 of not RID and 5 months behind the current stories in Optimus prime and Till all are one. Soundwave is still on the space station, Galvatron is still scheming and Optimus has just annexed Earth,
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886370)
Posted by Kurona on June 2nd, 2017 @ 4:43pm CDT
We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the fuck" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886375)
Posted by Randomhero on June 2nd, 2017 @ 4:54pm CDT
Kurona wrote:We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the ****" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.



That doesn't sound like anything James Roberts would do. The more plausible idea would be first aid and everyone showing up. Only first aid talks, everyone else is is just background and they stand around and spend half the issue talking about something that could be sumed up with one page. A lot of sad faces too can't forget the sad faces .
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886409)
Posted by Ironhidensh on June 2nd, 2017 @ 7:36pm CDT
Kurona wrote:We're catching up with Getaway and the Lost Light in Issue 10. I kinda hope it involves Mirage's group coming back, First Aid going "what the ****" and two seconds later Defensor tearing up half the ship.



I like you, you are good people. When the revolution comes, I'll see to it you are on the protected scrolls.*












*I may have had a but to drink tonight.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886590)
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2017 @ 1:34pm CDT
Via Previews World, we have a look at some cover art for not the next, but the issue after that of IDW Transformers: Lost Light! Issue #6 is out next Wednesday - full preview here - and the covers below, by Alex Milne and James Raiz (plus colourists - come ON people) and the main one by Jack Lawrence (plus colours) deal with the aftermath, so looking at them too closely may spoil some of the story in #6. You've been warned!

(W) James Roberts (A) Jack Lawrence (CA) Alex Milne
AFTERMATH! The war with the Functionalists is over-and Rodimus is left wondering whether he won or lost. It's the beginning of a new chapter for the displaced crew of the Lost Light, as decisions are made that will change their lives forever.


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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886607)
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Oh that Milne cover is excellent (and also how rumors start!)
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886608)
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:37pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.
Me too :lol: That is all I can say about that right now.

Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.
I have three points.

1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.

2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.

3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886611)
Posted by Kurona on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:44pm CDT
I'd probably be immediately apprehensive of it happening as Unicron is one of those things in Transformers I generally don't enjoy the concept of - or, at least, the religion-specific aspects of it - but IDW's post-DOOP stories have earned my trust to the extent I'd be very willing to see where they'd go with it.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886616)
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:06pm CDT
Edited with image I missed, by Lawrence.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886623)
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:35pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.
Me too :lol: That is all I can say about that right now.

Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.
I have three points.

1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.

2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.

3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.


The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"

Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.

Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.

It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886626)
Posted by Soundwave902 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:54pm CDT
Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.

Also, the last cover might be spoiling Minimus's death
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886645)
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"

Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.

Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.

It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
Fun debate! :)

We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps :-?
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886661)
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 5:04pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:
Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"

Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.

Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.

It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
Fun debate! :)

We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps :-?


oh god yes! i dont want to make ya think were arguing, not at all. obviously i am very much in favor of the idea of belief over proof. it just feels very grounded and real world and i very much commend IDW John Barber and Simon Furman for making that a thing. Im just still burned out of Unicron. I dont want him in the live action movies, cartoons or comics anymore just because hes that thing of "where do you go after him?' he takes away the threat of Megatron, the decepticons and anyhting else. IMO.

That being said Im getting tired of Optimus acting atheist in IDW and i got quite a chuckle from the Optimus Prime #8 preview that had jetfire swear in primus's name. you know transformers are in a werid place when Optimus is an atheist and Jetfire believes in God. the idea of Jetfire actually believing in Primus is awesome because every version of him has been a stone cold atheist. even the universes where primus has literally appeared before him and him saying "Nope! gods not real" that doesnt make you an atheist, that makes you an idiot. :lol:
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886669)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 3rd, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.

As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. Fuck the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886674)
Posted by Soundwave902 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 6:18pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.

As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.


That's Megatron's hand though
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886678)
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:25pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.

As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.



There's already over 25 years of primus and Unicrons backstory. They never really change it. The aligned universe modified it a little to give the thirteen more characterization. If I hadn't to make a guess I'd say Hasbro is pretty tight about keeping Unicron and primus's origins the same because for ten years they were hell bent on making them and the thirteen multi universal beings which just caused more problems when they decided to make alphatrion a prime and creating the shattered glass universe.

John and James at least broke out of the norm when they made primus not Cybertron and having him splinter into 5 other deities but that just created Mortilus who ended up just being a poor mans Unicron and making an excuse to have Unicron in lore without actually using Unicron.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886713)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
For whats it worth, I really felt the annual cemented Primus as being part of this world.

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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886749)
Posted by Kurona on June 4th, 2017 @ 5:28am CDT
Depends on your interpretation. Current IDW does play quite a bit with Atheism vs. Religion and I don't feel it's a mistake that they haven't taken one particular side.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1886856)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 4th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CDT
Soundwave902 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.

That's Megatron's hand though
Even so, that's a handshake.

As for Primus and Unicron having been around, while that's true, their conflicts haven't been elaborated on, only that Primus created the Transformers to defeat Unicron in G1 and their various appearances in the Unicron Trilogy where they didn't even face each other.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887447)
Posted by Kurona on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:12pm CDT
I don't know where else to put this; but James Roberts has not just heard of the German Transformers magazines, has not just read them; he owns them. I now fully expect Getaway to call Hosehead Horsehead.

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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887451)
Posted by Va'al on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:26pm CDT
Issue #6 is out this Wednesday, and we have yet to see a preview for issue #7, but the iTunes page for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #8 is up and running - sans three-page preview - and showing off the Nick Roche / Josh Burcham variant cover featuring Nautica and Anode on what seems to be an organic alien planet. Check it out below (via Roche and Burcham on Twitter)!

THE HUNT IS ON! Ever lost something and spent forever looking for it? Try visiting Troja Major, the lost property capital of the universe. Just bear in mind that it's better known by another name: the Howling Town. And the Autobots are about to find out why.


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Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887454)
Posted by Kurona on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CDT
Man, it's rare we get to see so many non-human organics. This should be fun...
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887526)
Posted by Randomhero on June 6th, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
It's always great to see more art from Nick but his Nautica has and will always be fugly as hell.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887569)
Posted by ScottyP on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:43am CDT
Deckard's Toad
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #6

Free of any explicit spoilers, but be forewarned some may be implied.
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Caught up? Good.

Hype is a fickle beast. Comic publishers, writers, artists, and other creators need it to drive sales. Sites like the one you're on, right here at Seibertron.com, need to communicate this hype via solicitations, a slow drip of cover art, and back issue sales as a service to our readers as this ends up being the medium through which information on upcoming books is disseminated. The net effect is positive until this hype becomes unrealized upon a product's release.

While that might sound like a foreboding portent of a negative review, it isn't. It's time for Lost Light #6, and it's time for you to check the hype at the door because there's bound to be something in store you didn't see coming. Don't disappoint yourself, and give a dose of empathy to the awesome creators bringing these stories and their hype to you every month.

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It is tempting to not get to the point of the review, I agree

The crisis on Functionist Cybertron comprises the main story line given focus within this issue. There are only so many pages to wrap up a plethora of plot points, and a series of cleverly sequenced events along with a twist that feels right out of Attack on Titan helps this issue deliver on most of these points. The action is fast, furious, and even the dialogue in between avoids going over-long. There's a melancholic moment involving Ratchet and Rung that's so typical of Ratchet's life that it's heart-wrenching, which makes a parallel moment later in the issue deliver a very well-timed and uplifting beat.

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Can we not? Or maybe do it quickly?

The Anode story has been controversial with fans of the book, with many readers enjoying it and many others ready for it to wrap up as soon as possible. I'll admit I actually started in the former camp and ended up in the latter. There is a satisfying conclusion to what can be described as a story that introduces the character of Anode in a detailed way throughout the course of a portion of six issues. It is a story with a poignant message, honest emotion, and internal conflict you can empathize with. The ultimate point of it now seems clear, dangerous as it is to assume you really know anything in a James Roberts Transformers story. That point also makes sense within other events going on. On top of that, this also has another thing going for it: the pages focusing on Anode provide a spot to stop and breathe a little when your heart gets racing from the other action in the book.

With all of that noted, something about Anode's story didn't hit the mark. Having the earlier issues paint Anode as not necessary sympathetic might have caused that for me. Additionally, I found there to be one point in this issue where it ground the pacing to an awkward halt before it picked up again shortly thereafter. This is the most subjective part of this whole review, as there's a great deal of objectively positive material within this backup story, so my slightly empty feeling upon reading this part of the book will not apply to all readers.

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I see what you did there and will tell our glorious Captain of your treachery.

Getting back to the main story of the issue, this continues to paint Rung, Rodimus, and Megatron as the three main characters of "Dissolution". It could well be argued that (Megatron's absence pre-More Than Meets The Eye 28 aside) these are also the three main characters of the series, and Rodimus does get ample time in Lost Light 6 as the captain of a stranded crew trying to get back to the first place in which they were stranded. He's under a lot of stress and it starts to bubble up to the surface in the most Rodimus-like ways you could imagine. There are times you'll cheer for him and times you'll be disappointed like your parents were when your report card wasn't up to muster despite you working very hard that one semester. His growth from here as a character seems to be approaching a tipping point, and it feels like we'll know for certain before the year's out whether or not Rodimus is fulfilling his legacy by starring in his Bildungsroman (of a sort since age is weird with Transformers), or if he's going to be a more tragic figure.

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Keep talking. No, seriously, I want to read more of your words.

The final pages of the issue create one of those moving experiences that has driven the massive following and respect that James Roberts has earned as a writer. Megatron's been on an odyssey for the last four years on our calendars. To say that this has been a remarkable, fulfilling, thought provoking journey would be an understatement. It continues here in a meaningful manner and is set up by an unexpected plot twist, all the while presenting challenges to traditional science fiction notions of the standards by which to judge the intrinsic value of non-human lives. Some of you saw the twist coming, while others will be blinded by phrasing that doesn't fit the common vernacular of their politics and won't look under the surface for the universally positive themes, but if one or both of those applies to you there's at least a visual gag along the way for you to enjoy.

There's one thing that I think all Transformers fans will agree on, and that is that the last panel is positively joyful.

Or is it absolutely terrifying?

What did I say about agreeing on it?

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Actually, this doesn't need words.

Jack Lawrence's art has rounded into form quite nicely as this series has progressed. He works well with the layouts provided and brings depth to scenes, especially in wider shots where a sense of scale and distance is important. Joana Lafuente's colors assist with this in a big way, and some special call out is in order for the fantastic use of lighting and contrast between scenes and environments. There was one point in this issue where the layout didn't fit the significance of the moment, when a particular 'bot fighting off a moon ceases to be able to do so. This could have used a bigger panel and perhaps the earlier mentioned backup story could have taken a step back to provide room for such moments, but it's not a cause of any major detriment in the grand scheme of things.

Tom B. Long is masterful as usual on lettering. Some of Megatron's lines in particular stood out as having a cadence thanks to the layout of the speech bubbles that made them more effective. One thought, over to another, over to another, and then back around to the point without going in circles. Brilliant stuff that I won't directly post here to avoid spoilers.

There are several great cover options, such as the main Jack Lawrence cover (serving as this review's news story thumbnail) with colors by Lafuente, as well as a fantastically detailed piece from Alex Milne and Josh Perez, rounded out with a ten-copy incentive cover by Marcelo Matere that oozes the tone of Hasbro toy packaging art from another time in the best way. As always, you can find full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers: Lost Light #6, but do note it does contain a character appearance list that some may consider a spoiler.

Verdict
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No, you go read it yourself!

I was probably harsher on Lost Light 5 than I needed to be. That's in light of having the totality of "Dissolution" now available to take a look through. This sixth issue is a great ending to a good chapter of a still phenomenal overall story. Personally, I found "Dissolution" to be held back by some pacing issues. Room to breathe is nice, of course, there were just times it felt closer to being given room for a nap.

On the whole, the negatives end there. This chapter of the quest moves the plot along in a significant way, continues the meaningful character work that's a staple of the series, and will have you ready for more.

Lost Light 6 in particular is the best issue out of the first six, and gives readers at least one moment they'll never forget while setting up a tight canvas for what's to come. Be sure to catch this one and the rest of "Dissolution", and subscribe to the series through some paid method if you like it. Support is important.

. :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: and 1/2 out of :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON: :CYBERTRON:


Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue:
  • Damien Jurado - "Cloudy Shoes"
  • The Scotland Yard Gospel Choir - "Everything You Paid For"
  • Tom Brosseau - "Favourite Colour Blue"
  • Sixpence None The Richer - "I Won't Share You"
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887570)
Posted by Bounti76 on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:56am CDT
Maybe I need to go back and reread the entire arc, but that ending just screamed "COPOUT!!" to me. Of course Megatron won't face justice in his home universe! That would end his character development!. Though, while typing that, I realized that it's probably why it was done. Still, I saw he and Terminus staying in the Functionist Universe coming from an alternate universe away.

Second question/point/discussion starter: Will Anode's resurrecting Lug mean that we're going to get a lot of dead characters back? Because while that's tempting to want to bring Skids and others back, it would COMPLETELY negate the emotional impact of their deaths.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887571)
Posted by Bounti76 on June 7th, 2017 @ 4:01am CDT
Also, just commenting on the link to the news story near the end of the review.......I thought neither profitability nor popularity was the issue with TAAO- Scott said that issue 12 was the profitability point and that it was the higher-ups at IDW who asked her to do a new story and she said no because she didn't want to write something that her heart wasn't into. But I'll continue that in the TAAO thread
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887579)
Posted by Va'al on June 7th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Maybe I need to go back and reread the entire arc, but that ending just screamed "COPOUT!!" to me.



See, the first reaction I had with ScottyP as we discussed the review was: Now *that* is an ending. Much like you, I also expected Megatron to not make it out of the Functionist universe, though not like this, admittedly. I also agree that the 'facing justice' point may be developed further, given the cover for next issue, featuring Megatron and Ultra Magnus parting ways with a handshake. Whatever that may mean.


As for your second point - I agree. A lot.
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887580)
Posted by Kurona on June 7th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
MTMTE is back.

That's all I could think when I finished this issue. It's been a very bumpy ride to get here, and as Scotty notes there's certainly a fair share of negatives; but this is where I feel my favourite comic can once again take the throne. It's funny - right as TAAO's announced to be ending, Lost Light gets good again. There's some sort of conspiracy in there...
Re: Main Cover for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #6 by Jack Lawrence (1887589)
Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:07am CDT
I hated it. There's no other way to put it. I hated this story and disliked this entire issue. Only thing I walked with after finishing it was "well he's not staying there that's for sure."

Like last issue I said the was a whole series convenient coincidences and that honestly should be the title of the trade. I found the entirety extremely weak and not a good first story to this relaunch.


Great art from jack. I'll give it that.

Now to wait and see how Roberts juggles dealing with the fact that this story is over 5 months behind the regular continuity of everything else and see how that pans out.

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