MakeToys MT-04 MOBINE Color Images

Interesting. I see fists in the last picture so I gather that it also can combine with the commanders for a big robot mode, too. This is more in line with what I'd hoped for for PCC, as opposed to the dinky little misshapen arms and legs. May pick this up if the price is right.

Hmmmmmm not a big fan of these pics, or the Fallen lore........but a fan of this action!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on man?????!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bring on Acoustic Wave and Hegemon!!!!!!!!

As long as both parts combine and look like the prototype we were shown, I'll still paint them black and orange and call it the Fallen.

Interesting direction. So their not-Fallen (I only use it this time because with this color scheme you can honestly say it's not The Fallen) will be a PCC commander?

Hmmmm, not sure if I'm digging the combat-oriented color scheme and the connection (literally and figuratively) to the PCCs. Hope the final combined version of their Fallen figure looks really good (and possibly gets a darker/black repaint) otherwise this is a pass for me.

Looks sweet! But it reminded me that I never did find Heavy Tread.

Leave it to 3rd party to turn a lame toy into an awesome one! I hope Hasbro is taking notes.

Hmm.

Robot mode isn't too bad, I suppose.
PCC integration is lacking.
Color scheme is very, very bland.

I only bought the Dinobot combiner and I doubt this'll work with that one.

The color scheme disappoints me. It doesn't look like either the Titanium Fallen or the Dreamwave's Fallen's color scheme (they were slightly different; you could tell the DW Fallen has purple in him when he was lit up). Since I have (and still dig) Titanium Fallen this just fell down my list of priorities.

But I'll reserve judgement until the full figure is released. With any luck this is just a limited edition color scheme and the one everyone actually wants will be released later.

I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

So, they're making a Cubix version of The Fallen?

You can bet on a black and flames repaint.

Looking back on the prototype, I can't tell if the second part is a full PCC commander or just the big robot mode (ala Overlord).

If it's the latter, they're pretty much using PCC to make a partsform-tastic duocon.

...I like this idea even more than I want a Fallen. I hope they do make 2 versions because THIS I would get the repaint. In fact; hope they really go down this road and announce more "partners" to pair with standalone PCC guys and salvage Hasbro's FAIL.

TFC has their WWII set, but despite the points for treating PCC like real gestalts, it's only one set. Pairing well with the tanks aside, something is lost if more than one has the exact same team. This way is not only more outside of the box, but looks much easier to explore and produce a bunch of designs than making sets of triple changers.

I don't know if any of you have CVS pharmacies around your area, but I was able to find a whole slew of the last wave of PCC 2 packs for 9 bucks each. If you consider, some of us are spending 10-13 bucks each for 3rd party target masters, these are a steal for troop building Heavytreads (even more so if you consider the price of Clone Wars figures in ratio to build quality). So check your CVS if looking for Heavytreads. The ones I found weren't in the toy aisle, they were in the aisle closest to the registers (near seasonal).

Mkall wrote:I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Yea.

I mean, what's the point here? I don't need PCC integration.

Counterpunch wrote:

Mkall wrote:I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Yea.

I mean, what's the point here? I don't need PCC integration.

I see it more as a bonus. Like "here's an awesome Fallen figure. And he can work with PCC too, if you like!"

I'm really excited about these, they're taking the functionality of PCC's and expanding it into upgrade armour, similar to how Armada allowed figures to split apart and combine into upgrades, IE Prime combined with Overload/Ultra magnus and Jetfire. Cool!

So The fallen is being splitt up into two sets, coloured sh*t brown, and sold as accessories for PCCs?

Again, I'll wait for the black repaint.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Mkall wrote:I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Yea.

I mean, what's the point here? I don't need PCC integration.

I see it more as a bonus. Like "here's an awesome Fallen figure. And he can work with PCC too, if you like!"

Honestly, I don't even see the resemblance to The Fallen yet.

Mkall wrote:Honestly, I don't even see the resemblance to The Fallen yet.

Granted, it's not a dead on, striking resemblance, but there are some similarities. Mostly the head.

I'd say the torso and cod-piece too.
You can tell it's that character, in any case, even if it's not the same design, but based upon it.

I'm warming up to this idea.

I kind of like the thought of taking PCCs to their next logical step, of fully armored bots.

It is not too different that Ultra Magnus, where you have a central bot, and he has armor from a separate structure.

I like that they used the PCC ports so you can, if you want, integrate with some stuff you already have.

I kind of hope they make a slew of guys around this concept.

The only real shame is these are coming out now, and not when PCCs were on shelves at clearance prices.

Mkall wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Mkall wrote:I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Yea.

I mean, what's the point here? I don't need PCC integration.

I see it more as a bonus. Like "here's an awesome Fallen figure. And he can work with PCC too, if you like!"

Honestly, I don't even see the resemblance to The Fallen yet.

This thing screams The Fallen to me:

I think people are just remember the Titanium Fallen, which was based off a version of Megatron. This thing is a pretty good representation of the real Fallen. Except for the colors, if what we're shown is any indication.

Buying it even if the color scheme doesn't eventually match. It's a bad ass set. PCC pegs worry me but at least it won't be that disgusting light blue color.

That colourscheme looks like it would also look pretty great with PCC Steelshot (the Bombshock repaint):









This reminds me I need to track down some Heavytreads. At CVS, you say?

If the PCCs had come in more sensible colourschemes (with no translucence on the minicon partners) I would have bought every single one of them. As it is, there are some definite gems in the line, and if third parties can make better use of the ports than those dreadful drone super mode limbs there is plentiful fun to be mined here.

Too bed they didn't revisit Superlink Grand Convoy in PCC....

rpetras wrote:I'm warming up to this idea.

I kind of like the thought of taking PCCs to their next logical step, of fully armored bots.

It is not too different that Ultra Magnus, where you have a central bot, and he has armor from a separate structure.

I like that they used the PCC ports so you can, if you want, integrate with some stuff you already have.

I kind of hope they make a slew of guys around this concept.

The only real shame is these are coming out now, and not when PCCs were on shelves at clearance prices.

THANK YOU

As for the timing, that's the bane of 3rd Party upgrade sets. Except for a few heads that were natural choices, the time it takes to design and produce these ideas is always after the fact. Best they can do without promising the moon and stars is concept scetches.

I like EVERYTHING about this set. And integration with the PCC figures? Great! I'm looking forward to this...I just hope it's reasonably price enough that I can justify buying it...

Hmm, kind of cool, but it isn't the color scheme I was expecting. Somehow I didn't realize it had PCC compatibility. While it's cool, since I sold off my entire PCC collection I have no interest in the line. It's still a possibility that I may bet this, but I'm less interested than before.

You know, with this color scheme, one could interpret/repurpose this as the pre-Fallen, non-evil, original Megatronus Prime.

El Duque wrote:

Mkall wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:

Mkall wrote:I can't say I see myself getting this. It's a neat concept and the engineering looks darned good, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

Yea.

I mean, what's the point here? I don't need PCC integration.

I see it more as a bonus. Like "here's an awesome Fallen figure. And he can work with PCC too, if you like!"

Honestly, I don't even see the resemblance to The Fallen yet.

This thing screams The Fallen to me:

For those who still doubt this is a homage to The Fallen: if you click any black and white picture of Mubine page on Maketoy's site, and open the pictures in another window (I'm using chrome), you can see that the pictures are named "fallen_04.jpg (1000-1411)", "fallen_05.jpg (1000x1364)" and so on.
See for yourself:

http://www.maketoys.jp/fallen_04.JPG
http://www.maketoys.jp/fallen_05.JPG
http://www.maketoys.jp/fallen_02.JPG

Hope I made myself clear, it's late and I'm not an English native speaker

It's still a fantastic looking figure. I know this is the first time we've seen this piece with PCC figures, but there's been an awareness of the PCC connectors for some time so this isn't really all that surprising.

What is surprising is the colour scheme, and not in a good way. I don't think I'll be getting it in those colours.

Maybe this will be MakeToys' modus operandi: first release a set in seperate packages and in obscure colours, then release the boxset in the generally more desirable/correct colours. Annoying.

Now what I want to see is Heavytread in Combiner mode with that kit formed into his limbs!

zodconvoy wrote:As long as both parts combine and look like the prototype we were shown, I'll still paint them black and orange and call it the Fallen.

Yes, yes finally more info on this thing. I patiently await its coming

I don't get it. What looked cool as a grey prototype looks like a lame parts former now.

Stormrider wrote:I don't get it. What looked cool as a grey prototype looks like a lame parts former now.

Only because we're seeing half of the final product.

Mkall wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I don't get it. What looked cool as a grey prototype looks like a lame parts former now.

Only because we're seeing half of the final product.

And because an alternate function of the set is as a power-up armor of sorts. And as I'm sure we all know, more often than not, if you want to retain articulation, your power armor had better partsform. Non-partsforming power armors tend to restrict articulation, again not always, but more often than not.

I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

So this is just an upgrade for a crappy Hasbro figure, and not a scratch mold ???

Stormrider wrote:I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

Honestly, I think in this case they came up with the idea for the figure(s), designed the altmode, then tacked on a representation of The Fallen to entice fans.

Mkall wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

Honestly, I think in this case they came up with the idea for the figure(s), designed the altmode, then tacked on a representation of The Fallen to entice fans.

I hope you're wrong or I'll be sorely disappointed

trence5 wrote:

Mkall wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I am sorry for being such a dounce, but why didn't Maketoys just build the Fallen from scratch from one figure instead of combining two different figures?

Honestly, I think in this case they came up with the idea for the figure(s), designed the altmode, then tacked on a representation of The Fallen to entice fans.

I hope you're wrong or I'll be sorely disappointed

Maybe I am, I'm just going with how it seems to have been done according to my own personal biases on this figure.

Do I think it's a good transforming figure? Absolutely
Do I think it's a good representation of The Fallen, or Megatronus? No I don't

Even if that is the case, it doesn't stop it brom being a great Fallen figure for people who like it. You can just ignore the PCC aspect of it and like it for what it is. This would be a must for me seeing as I don't have any PCCs save the Dinos and the Decepticon firetruck dude (blanking on the name now).

I think it's a pretty good theory. The Fallen has nothing to do with combiners and he DOES have an alt mode (revealed in MTMTE), which doesn't really look like this one's alt. mode.

Rated X wrote:So this is just an upgrade for a crappy Hasbro figure, and not a scratch mold ???

No it's a scratch mold that turns into two upgrades for crappy Hasbro figures.

Well, at least now we know why they made the thing a parts former duocon.

The PCC integration does nothing for me, but if they release this in the Fallen's colors, I will preorder it instantly.

I'd like a 3rd party (or, hell, official Hasbro) Fallen that looks like that, and I like the idea of upgrades to the PCCs (actual limbs that transform into robots would be cool, but I'd settle for limbs that look like limbs) like this seems to be. Not sure I like them all being mushed together in one package. Will need to see more.

Just saw this on TFW, apparently the image is in a booklet packed in with Green Giant (confirmation)? Surprised no one's made mention of it yet, as it's packed full of awesome. Could do without the smoke effects though... unless that's an action feature. Kind of dumb for them to tease this... I'll definitely be passing on the military-colored version of the figure and wait for this instead.

that looks pretty cool. Would have to see more, as well as prices, but...maybe.

Mekatron wrote: