Meet Windblade: Interview with Mairghread Scott and Blurr, Chromia, Starscream Designs
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Jaydot: The TFWiki entry about Windblade is pretty sparse. We know she’s got a “fancy sword” and turns into a jet, and there’s almost literally no other info about her. Without getting into too much background detail, which I understand might be spoilery, can you elaborate at all on who/what Windblade is?
Mairghread: To be fair, beyond being a jet and a sword fighter I started with a pretty blank slate when I developed Windblade, so don’t fault the wiki for that one. The most important thing for me when constructing Windblade was to make her a fully three-dimensional (read: flawed) character, so if I had to pick one word to describe her I would say that Windblade is trying. She’s an optimistic, hard-working Transformers character who is genuinely interested in helping others, but she’s also been dropped in the aftermath of a millennia (for real) long war that she was not really part of, so while she’s a very competent character, she’s way behind the curve when it comes to knowing who’s who and what’s what on Cybertron. This actually makes Transfomers: Windblade a really good starting point for new readers because almost everything on Cybertron is as new to her as it is to someone just entering the brand.
What’ll be the overall tone of the book? Transformers can run the gamut from very kid-friendly to very mature (although even Transformers Prime had its extremely dark moments, see the whole Silas storyline, for example). While I have no doubt Windblade will have its emotionally impactful moments, are you aiming overall for something lighter or more fun, or is this a much more serious endeavor?
Transformers: Windblade is, at its core, a story about hope: who has it, who doesn’t, what does it cost and when is it worth (and not worth) that price. So you should expect a story that runs the entire emotional gamut. That said, Transformers: Windblade will definitely be fast-paced and fun because Transformers as a brand is so fast-paced and fun, but hope in the hands of someone like Starscream can be a very dangerous thing and Windblade, who is so centered around the idea of hope, is going to learn that the hard way.
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what’s the #1 (or #1 through #5) thing you want people to know about WINDBLADE? Either the comic as a whole or the character.
When it comes to the comic, you should be reading it.
If you’ve loved Hasbro and IDW’s Transformers comics for years, you should read it: Sarah and I have really tried to push the envelope in both storytelling, artistic style and that wonderful point where they meet. We’re going to open whole new worlds for you both in-story and on the page and you are not going to want to miss it.
If you’ve never read Transformers, you should read it. Transformers: Windblade is a perfect jumping on point and designed to show off all the best (okay, all my favorite) parts of this brand: fantastic characters, imaginative landscapes, awesome fight scenes and, yes, even humor.
And if you’re an impulse buyer, you can order issue 1 from your local comic store right now: FEB140337 E TRANSFORMERS WINDBLADE #1 (OF 4) gets you the Casey Coller cover.
FEB140338 E TRANSFORMERS WINDBLADE #1 (OF 4) SUBSCRIPTION VAR gets you Sarah’s cover.
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Posted by Blurrz on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:14pm CST
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Posted by kaijuguy19 on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:54pm CST
I'm digging the drawings Sarah Stone made too. They seem to be a blend of IDW and TFP in a good way. I like how Chromia's supposed vehicle window acts like a riot shield.
Posted by Coptur on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:55pm CST
I'm looking forward to it and I think it'll fun
Posted by Mkall on February 6th, 2014 @ 12:58pm CST
Posted by kirbenvost on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:04pm CST
Chromia looks awesome. I hope that's similar to the upcoming Deluxe figure.
I do agree Starscream & Blurr look more feminine than usual, but out of all the characters that could be drawn that way, they're most fitting. What I like most about all of these designs is that they scream personality. Definitely looking forward to this.
Posted by Manterax Prime on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:08pm CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I don't mean to sound sexist or anything, but does anyone else notice that both Starscream and Blurr have more feminine figures than Chromia?
I believe these are merely concept art as Chromia's form in the comics greatly differs from what we see here. For now at least. It may be she gets a new altmode and a new body structure to go w/ it just like Windblade.
Posted by Banjo-Tron on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:18pm CST
Posted by ZackRoyer on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:26pm CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I don't mean to sound sexist or anything, but does anyone else notice that both Starscream and Blurr have more feminine figures than Chromia?
Me too, But I was afraid to say it and be raged to death.
Nothing against feminine designs but, either you change completely the gender (I don't like it, but some people do) or you maintain original character proportion (look at that starscream head, what the flick!)
They look like Kpop singers.
Posted by Mindmaster on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:35pm CST
Though I will say I don't care for the proportions of his wings. That's really all that bothers me.
I'm liking Chromia's design. I don't know what else to say besides that without being awkward.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 6th, 2014 @ 1:47pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on February 6th, 2014 @ 2:03pm CST
It's kinda like Armada and Prime Starscreams had a baby.
Chromia's transformation looks like it'd be pretty lazy. Fold the body into a box-ish shape, snap the windshield (HA!) on top, and done.
Posted by Sabrblade on February 6th, 2014 @ 2:30pm CST
Well, it sure is a darn good thing we won't be getting THAT story anytime soon since the war here has been good and over for a while now and Windblade's being dropped into the AFTERMATH of the war that wasn't hers.MR Optimus Prime wrote:WHERE have I seen a story about FIVE new airplane characters dropped into a centuries long war that wasn't theirs. Who were new to Cybertron, and also had to figure out who was who the hard way? (Cough G1 cartoon Cough)
Posted by Hero Alpha on February 6th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CST
Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on February 6th, 2014 @ 10:21pm CST
Blurrz wrote:That Blurr des needs a toy.
Agreed.
Posted by Henry921 on February 6th, 2014 @ 11:00pm CST
That premise sounds interesting, and while I'm not thrilled with all of her comments, I do think Scott has her strengths as a writer...
...damn it all, I guess I'll read the comic included with the Windblade figure.
Posted by Down_Shift on February 6th, 2014 @ 11:26pm CST
If this arc is anything like ROTD then I'm out. That whole thing stunk from top to bottom.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:15am CST
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:20am CST
Chromia looks rather tomboyish, but it works.
From what I've seen of Windblade, not exactly a fan of the overall design.
No comment on the story, as I don't read the comics.
Posted by Darth Jumpy on February 7th, 2014 @ 12:23am CST
Though I hope that they reveal why there are now more female Transformers in the IDW universe pretty soon, if not in this series. I just want a better explanation than none.
Posted by Va'al on February 7th, 2014 @ 4:19am CST
Darth Jumpy wrote:I am getting real interested in this. The writer wrote several episodes for Prime that made Miko fun and likable, which is quite an accomplishment.
Though I hope that they reveal why there are now more female Transformers in the IDW universe pretty soon, if not in this series. I just want a better explanation than none.
The Windblade mini-series will address exactly that: where do Windblade, Chromia and Nautica come from, and why do we only find out about them now?
Posted by Mindmaster on February 7th, 2014 @ 9:59am CST
Va'al wrote:...where do Windblade, Chromia and Nautica come from, and why do we only find out about them now?
Didn't you know?
It was definitely wizard aliens.
You haven't been maintaining your atandarfs. Son, I am disappoint.
Posted by Va'al on March 3rd, 2014 @ 12:42pm CST
In the wake of the "Dark Cybertron" crossover, the various Transformers are in disarray. And things are about to get even more interesting for the characters, as writer Mairghread Scott and artist Sarah Stone -- the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series -- will soon be hitting them with the imminent arrival of Windblade.
The first "fan-built bot" created through a number of polls on Hasbro's website, Windblade's design, features and abilities were all decided by the general public and brought to life by Hasbro designer Lenny Panzica. The sword-wielding, jet-powered female Transformer looks set to cause a whole load of trouble for the rest of Cyberton's sons and daughters in her own four-issue, self-titled miniseries due to kick off in April. Scott spoke to CBR about her plans for the character -- and just what her arrival means for IDW Publishing's Transformers Universe as a whole.
CBR News: Windblade arrived in the IDW Transformers continuity during the recent "Dark Cybertron" crossover event. Following that story, what kind of state are the Autobots and Decepticons in as this miniseries kicks off? How are they recovering -- or not -- from the event?
Mairghread Scott: I don't think it spoils anything to say that things get a little, well -- dark by the end of "Dark Cybertron" and the whole event has very much demoralized the entire planet. Fighting an endless war is tiring, but there are only so many times you can rebuild your home-world before you start to feel like things just aren't gonna get any better.
But, in a way, this is also the perfect time to introduce a new character like Windblade because she's seeing so many things for the first time. There's an old saying that "evil triumphs when good men do nothing," and "Transformers Windblade" is just as much about the danger of staying on the sidelines as it is about evil itself.
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She was created after winning a fan-poll from Hasbro which asked fan to help create a new character. How exciting was it to have the chance to introduce and establish a character into continuity?
It was extremely exciting. The moment they announced Windblade, I told John Barber that I was calling dibs on her if she made it to the comics. It's nice to see that still works. But, in all seriousness, it really is amazing to feel like Sarah and I are getting to make a little bit of Transformers history. We get to bring in a whole new character (and hopefully a new readership) to our favorite brand; we're pulling out all the stops to make sure Windblade earns a spot in Transformers for a long time to come.
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There are other female Transformers, but the majority of them are identified as male. Are you interested in writing and exploring that in this series? Do the other characters treat her differently for being a female, or do they not even notice?
Obviously, Starscream's gonna use any kind of wedge issue he can -- because he's Starscream.
But Cybertronians in general are less interested in that kind of thing, and that's something I really love about the brand. Think about it: If you're fighting another Transformer, it's a lot more crucial to know what they turn into (tank, jet, flash drive) than what pronoun they use. Characters who don't know Windblade are obviously curious about who she is, but who she is, is so much more than "female."
Posted by 1984forever on March 3rd, 2014 @ 5:39pm CST
Posted by Treetop Maximus on March 3rd, 2014 @ 7:16pm CST
Don't care.
Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
Posted by Flashwave on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:42pm CST
84forever wrote:I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!
That never phased Victory Saber, being a jet.or Silverbolt. Ooh! Powerglide, he was a plane too!
Also, some of us enjoy the societal workings of Cybertron. These are living aliens, they have a culture, even if it does revolve around killing eachother. Lets see what lifexand death means to them, and what. The universe means to them. Lets have some thoughtful, deep Star Trek type moments. We've done the "Megatron turns into a gun. Megatron shoots Optimus Prime! Itsnot very effective..." schtick over... and over... and over... again and again and again...
Posted by Mindmaster on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:47pm CST
84forever wrote:stuff
Dude, not cool. Please refrain from using that kind of language here on Seibertron.com. Remember, we have youngin's posting here too. Keep it classy, not crass-y.
First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron?
I would name every Autobot flier I could think of, but we'd be here for days.
Well, not literally, but you get the point.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:53pm CST
Flashwave wrote:84forever wrote:I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!
That never phased Victory Saber, being a jet.or Silverbolt. Ooh! Powerglide, he was a plane too!
Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide.Mindmaster wrote:First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron?
I would name every Autobot flier I could think of, but we'd be here for days.
Well, not literally, but you get the point.
Posted by Real Cool Guy on March 3rd, 2014 @ 9:57pm CST
84forever wrote:I'm not understanding this suddenly so urgent need to put more Cybertronian T&A into the comics (and games). First off, she's an AUTObot ... So why is she a jet? If she is too stupid to know what faction she should be how is she going to make any sense out of what's happening on Cybertron? Secondly, this political crap on Cybertron is lame... the series is not going to last more than 12 issues. I blame the fandom for this mess. If they had the decency to beat off to a porno before polling, Windblade would have never been voted into existence!
Hey did you know that female characters in comics can be there for, I dunno, reasons that aren't T&A? That Autobots aren't just cars? The underlying misogyny in your post is pretty appalling. You should honestly be ashamed of yourself.
Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series
Don't care.
Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
This is actually a fairly important milestone, actually. I don't want to assume you're a straight, white male, but generally speaking it is harder for women to break in to comics, let alone on larger, predominantly male (straight, white) creative teams. So I wouldn't be so quick to disregard this, honestly. It might not be a big deal to you, but that's no excuse to be so snide/dismissive of this.
I have no doubt in my mind that IDW picked Scott because her ideas and the story she wants to tell meshes with the direction IDW have been taking Transformers, so I'd like to think that the people responsible for probably the best two years of Transformers comics in recently history know what they're doing/pick their collaborators well.
Posted by Burn on March 3rd, 2014 @ 10:02pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide.
Digs like this can be construed as personal attacks, let's not go down that path.
Posted by Dead Metal on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:55am CST
Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide.
Digs like this can be construed as personal attacks, let's not go down that path.
But it's true, he actually stated so himself the last time he posted on a topic and it'S in his name.
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:00am CST
Real Cool Guy wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series
Don't care.
Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
This is actually a fairly important milestone, actually. I don't want to assume you're a straight, white male, but generally speaking it is harder for women to break in to comics, let alone on larger, predominantly male (straight, white) creative teams. So I wouldn't be so quick to disregard this, honestly. It might not be a big deal to you, but that's no excuse to be so snide/dismissive of this.
I have no doubt in my mind that IDW picked Scott because her ideas and the story she wants to tell meshes with the direction IDW have been taking Transformers, so I'd like to think that the people responsible for probably the best two years of Transformers comics in recently history know what they're doing/pick their collaborators well.
Not to mention that Scott is a good writer. Look at the first two issues of Beast Hunters (which were really not that meh at all), look at the Prime episodes she wrote: 'Chain of Command', 'Hard Knocks', 'Hurt', 'Orion Pax: Part 2', 'Stronger, Faster'.
And yes, the fact that it's the first ever all female creator team on a Transformers comic is important. In 30 years of the franchise, this is the first time! Do you know how many women are in the fandom? Do you know how many women have only had a handful of characters to relate to, and no writers? This is a massive step in the right direction, and one that every fan should welcome.
Posted by Dead Metal on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:12am CST
Va'al wrote:Real Cool Guy wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series
Don't care.
Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
This is actually a fairly important milestone, actually. I don't want to assume you're a straight, white male, but generally speaking it is harder for women to break in to comics, let alone on larger, predominantly male (straight, white) creative teams. So I wouldn't be so quick to disregard this, honestly. It might not be a big deal to you, but that's no excuse to be so snide/dismissive of this.
I have no doubt in my mind that IDW picked Scott because her ideas and the story she wants to tell meshes with the direction IDW have been taking Transformers, so I'd like to think that the people responsible for probably the best two years of Transformers comics in recently history know what they're doing/pick their collaborators well.
Not to mention that Scott is a good writer. Look at the first two issues of Beast Hunters (which were really not that meh at all), look at the Prime episodes she wrote: 'Chain of Command', 'Hard Knocks', 'Hurt', 'Orion Pax: Part 2', 'Stronger, Faster'.
And yes, the fact that it's the first ever all female creator team on a Transformers comic is important. In 30 years of the franchise, this is the first time! Do you know how many women are in the fandom? Do you know how many women have only had a handful of characters to relate to, and no writers? This is a massive step in the right direction, and one that every fan should welcome.
Yup, I went a little mental yesterday and bought all the TF Prime FOC related collections on comixology just to check out her writing. Sure not all are her's but I want to know what came before her's.
Plus Grimlock'Ss always awesome.
Posted by Henry921 on March 4th, 2014 @ 5:42am CST
Whatever Hasbro edicts are in place for Windblade may be hindering her further...
Since I'm planning on getting the toy, I'll read the first issue of the miniseries and decide whether or not to get the TPB afterwards.
And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
Posted by Banjo-Tron on March 4th, 2014 @ 5:58am CST
Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts
Posted by Real Cool Guy on March 4th, 2014 @ 9:28am CST
Banjo-Tron wrote:Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts
Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.
Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.
Edit: Another thing I want to address is the idea of an authors gender/race/etc not making a difference to stories about fantastic or otherworldly things, and I think I would have to politely disagree. I mean, the same argument could be made that stories about fire breathing space robot dinosaurs don't need in-depth political and social structures that resemble, in parts, things that have happened on earth. But they did, and it's been fantastic for the brand. So it wouldn't surprise me if Barber/Roberts/Roche/etc had an interest in social and political history that helped shape and influence the direction of the universe they are creating. Now that gender (in an alien environment not too dissimilar to our own) is going to be tackled, I think it makes total sense to get someone who has experience in being another gender, with being an outsider for something they did not choose. I'm not saying that Scott is a good fit BECAUSE she is a woman, but I do believe that being a woman will really help in telling an interesting story.
Or not who knows laffo
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 11:25am CST
Posted by Hero Alpha on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:01pm CST
Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series
Don't care.
Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
I agree, just give us good stories without shoving PC down our throats. I just like Transformer stories I don't care who writes them.
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:02pm CST
And for the record, Windblade, Chromia and Nautica have been brought into the franchise by (male) writers Barber and Roberts. Scott is the (female) writer in charge of the mini-series.
Posted by Noideaforaname on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:25pm CST
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 12:26pm CST
Real Cool Guy wrote:Banjo-Tron wrote:Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts
Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.
Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.
Definitely. This seems to be the point that's being missed by a lot of readers.
Scott was hired to write the series because of her qualities as writer. Sarah Stone because of her artwork. They also happen to be the first woman writer/artist team in the franchise. That is, yes, secondary, but not unimportant. As pointed out, we do not live in an egalitarian, post-feminist society - at all.
And as also pointed out before, the creator's gender is relevant in terms of what type of experience can be brought to writing a character that shares some of the characteristics. I said it above: the characters were brought in by Barber and Roberts. And in fact, the whole concept of gender in a genderless race was brought in by Simon Furman. This is not a retcon, not a fixing, not a retelling - it's an alternative for more fans (and not just women!) to read about a different, minority aspect of the IDW universe's population so far relegated to off-page narratives or passing comments.
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:16pm CST
Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Unfortunately, he's stuck living in 1984 that nothing past it applies to his ideals, including the plane-based Autobot of 1985: Powerglide.
Digs like this can be construed as personal attacks, let's not go down that path.
I tried to tell you all that Sabrblade and Dead Metal have issues with anything that one posts that contradict their opinions. They just cannot let it go when someone says something they do not like.
You two need to back off of people. They have the right to their opinion just as much as you do without being attacked because they do not share your opinion. Kinda like you did with me, remember? It is a real turnoff to come here, read story after story, and see you two rail people for thinking differently from you.
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:21pm CST
Hero Alpha wrote:Treetop Maximus wrote:>the first all-female creative team to ever work on a Transformers series
Don't care.
Let's focus less on being progressive and more on good stories. I don't really care that there's a few new female characters in the universe or that the people working on this are women. Just give me a plausible explanation for the characters' presence and a story that's not really meh like those Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics and I'll be happy.
I agree, just give us good stories without shoving PC down our throats. I just like Transformer stories I don't care who writes them.
Ditto. More good stories. We get enough PC crap from the media.
Posted by shockblast2 on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:24pm CST
Va'al wrote:Real Cool Guy wrote:Banjo-Tron wrote:Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts
Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.
Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.
Definitely. This seems to be the point that's being missed by a lot of readers.
Scott was hired to write the series because of her qualities as writer. Sarah Stone because of her artwork. They also happen to be the first woman writer/artist team in the franchise. That is, yes, secondary, but not unimportant. As pointed out, we do not live in an egalitarian, post-feminist society - at all.
And as also pointed out before, the creator's gender is relevant in terms of what type of experience can be brought to writing a character that shares some of the characteristics. I said it above: the characters were brought in by Barber and Roberts. And in fact, the whole concept of gender in a genderless race was brought in by Simon Furman. This is not a retcon, not a fixing, not a retelling - it's an alternative for more fans (and not just women!) to read about a different, minority aspect of the IDW universe's population so far relegated to off-page narratives or passing comments.
Yeah, but if they didn't do this on purpose then why are they saying it in the first place. It is sexist in itself to make such declarations, by definition. I don't care if a girl or guy writes it, only if it is a good story. For some reason they are plugging the female team thing, and to me that is to help sales. If their writing is good enough, then it should stand on its own. Not because it is the "first female" anything.
My personal opinion is that having a Arcee called a "fembot" is ridiculous. Robots do not have a gender. I mean, this should be a no brainer to me. Arcee is not a fembot. Or a girl. Female. Whatever. It is a pink robot. An IT. Not a she.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 4th, 2014 @ 2:50pm CST
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 3:37pm CST
shockblast2 wrote:Va'al wrote:Real Cool Guy wrote:Banjo-Tron wrote:Henry921 wrote:And while I'm glad there are more women working on Transformers fiction, I really wish it was a mundane occurrence rather than some progressive event we should all embrace, because (to my perception, anyway) the author's gender should be wholly irrelevant when writing about space robots transforming into fire breathing dinosaurs.
Agreed. Real equality is when no-one bats an eyelid regarding your age/gender/race/sexuality etc and just accepts you do a damn fine job. It's interesting because over the last 5 years or so there are waaay more females attending Auto Assembly here in the UK, which I feel is because the rampant machismo and objectification of women present in the movies hasn't influenced the comics overtly. Or then again, perhaps it's because they want a piece of Nick Roche and his unfeasibly tight t-shirts
Real equality doesn't exist though, so I think it is important to highlight when things start to shift in another direction, because it allows for people to discuss these sorts in a context relevant to them (ie the role/lack thereof of women in Transformers, as a fiction and a franchise). It allows people to potentially re-assess their own view of women/gender in general via lively discussion I guess.
Though yeah I do agree it should be, in an ideal world, a non-event. But it isn't, and won't be, for a long, long time.
Definitely. This seems to be the point that's being missed by a lot of readers.
Scott was hired to write the series because of her qualities as writer. Sarah Stone because of her artwork. They also happen to be the first woman writer/artist team in the franchise. That is, yes, secondary, but not unimportant. As pointed out, we do not live in an egalitarian, post-feminist society - at all.
And as also pointed out before, the creator's gender is relevant in terms of what type of experience can be brought to writing a character that shares some of the characteristics. I said it above: the characters were brought in by Barber and Roberts. And in fact, the whole concept of gender in a genderless race was brought in by Simon Furman. This is not a retcon, not a fixing, not a retelling - it's an alternative for more fans (and not just women!) to read about a different, minority aspect of the IDW universe's population so far relegated to off-page narratives or passing comments.
Yeah, but if they didn't do this on purpose then why are they saying it in the first place. It is sexist in itself to make such declarations, by definition. I don't care if a girl or guy writes it, only if it is a good story. For some reason they are plugging the female team thing, and to me that is to help sales. If their writing is good enough, then it should stand on its own. Not because it is the "first female" anything.
My personal opinion is that having a Arcee called a "fembot" is ridiculous. Robots do not have a gender. I mean, this should be a no brainer to me. Arcee is not a fembot. Or a girl. Female. Whatever. It is a pink robot. An IT. Not a she.
No.
It is because of a sexist society, power dynamics and patriarchal norms that a statement like that stands out and is inevitable. If there were no issues with disparity of genders, race, sex, age, ability, language, belief, there would be no need to point it out.
Every time I see comments reacting negatively to any news like this, one question springs to mind: what are you all afraid of or worried about? Is there a serious concern that this will steal something away from you?
Also, shockblast2: If a moderator calls someone out for a comment, you do not add to that message with your own comment, especially if you're attacking the users that have just been warned.
Posted by Banjo-Tron on March 4th, 2014 @ 4:19pm CST
Posted by Va'al on March 4th, 2014 @ 4:38pm CST
Banjo-Tron wrote:I would just like to point out that I am not missing any 'point', I just have a different opinion about what constitutes equality. It's a bit sneakily disparaging to basically say that people who don't see things the same way as you don't 'get it' Va'al. Naughty Va'al
Nope. We agree on what constitutes equality, obviously. (I'd be surprised if there were multiple interpretations of 'equal', other than the Orwellian one.)
I disagree with you on the fact that we are not there yet. And that is the point you and others are not getting. I'm not saying that you disagree with me therefore you're wrong, I'm pointing out that you seem to think there is no inequality at play a) in society, b) in the comics industry, c) in the Transformers franchise.
And that is just not true. Examples of diversity gaps below.
London Review of Book inequality in contributors and reviewed works: http://forbookssake.net/2013/06/24/find ... -of-books/
Women in comics in December 2013 and year review: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/02/28/ ... in-review/
DC
Marvel