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Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight

Sunday, October 2nd, 2016 7:13PM CDT

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Are you guys ready for some more explosions? UK news site mail online has images showing Michael Bay filming Transformers 5 at Stonehenge and blowing it up. Of course, the blown up Stonehenge is a lifesize replica. You can see the shots below. That same Stonehenge site/scene also features Anthony Hopkins addressing a large being who is not there (until they add it later). This confirms that he is not voicing a character but actually present in flesh and blood in the film. About Stonehenge, Transformerscars has posted a rumour that the historic site acts as a portal/keyhole in the film and the key is the Excalibur sword we previously saw Mark Wahlberg holding. Also, at the filming location of Wiltshire, Mark Walhberg and Laura Haddock were seen running in military outfits. Enjoy all the bombastic images below and let us know if ever you come across more movie news!

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread

Transformers News: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stone Henge in Transformers: The Last Knight Discussion Thread
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Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830114)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on October 2nd, 2016 @ 7:45pm CDT
You, Chevy Chase!

Michael learned it by watching YOU!

'80s comedy sequels that destroy Stonehenge inspire '80s-toy-franchise-based movies that destroy Stonehenge.

The more you know.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830152)
Posted by Shuttershock on October 2nd, 2016 @ 10:28pm CDT
Was there ever any doubt?


Also, since the picture brought it up, why does Michael Bay do those explosions that just look like fireworks? The one's with the spark trails? They just look cheap and very deliberately like a pyrotechnic stunt.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830153)
Posted by Emerje on October 2nd, 2016 @ 10:31pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Hmm...could it be the key to the Omega Lock :-?


Considering the movies barrow mainly from G1 it's more likely Stonehenge is Vector Sigma and Excalibur is the key.

Emerje
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830162)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on October 3rd, 2016 @ 12:12am CDT
Shuttershock wrote:Was there ever any doubt?


Also, since the picture brought it up, why does Michael Bay do those explosions that just look like fireworks? The one's with the spark trails? They just look cheap and very deliberately like a pyrotechnic stunt.


I've always wondered that too. There are other directors that use practical explosions that look like real, malicious explosives going off (as they should), but Bay's always look like fireworks.
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Posted by Shuttershock on October 3rd, 2016 @ 12:53am CDT
Jeddostotle7 wrote:
Shuttershock wrote:Was there ever any doubt?


Also, since the picture brought it up, why does Michael Bay do those explosions that just look like fireworks? The one's with the spark trails? They just look cheap and very deliberately like a pyrotechnic stunt.


I've always wondered that too. There are other directors that use practical explosions that look like real, malicious explosives going off (as they should), but Bay's always look like fireworks.


Which is funny, considering the man we're dealing with, you'd think there would be nothing but giant gratuitous gasoline explosions.

:michaelbay:
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830168)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 3rd, 2016 @ 2:11am CDT
Emerje wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Hmm...could it be the key to the Omega Lock :-?


Considering the movies barrow mainly from G1 it's more likely Stonehenge is Vector Sigma and Excalibur is the key.

Emerje

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Yes yes....thank you thank you......don't all clap at once :-D
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Posted by Va'al on October 3rd, 2016 @ 3:58am CDT
Starting the week with a bang (as with most Michael Bay productions), we have a bit of a round-up of more Transformers: The Last Knight news from the past week or so that may have been missed between Stonehenge and Wahlberg interviews! Proceeding with order...

Between Tyrese Gibson, returning for the fifth movie, on Instagram and Mark Wahlberg on his own Twitter account, we have confirmation that the London portion of the filming is coming to an end, according to schedule - and they had a brief stop in Paris too.

Isabela Moner is clearly enjoying shooting this movie way too much, almost as much as the social media team who convinced Anthony Hopkins to play around with camera filters. I am not sure how to take this. It's mesmerizing.



Emma Lambert, a fellow Transformers fan, was able to visit the set in London during filming, and has provided extensive coverage on her Twitter and Instagram feeds of the various vehicles for Hot Rod, Barricade, Bumblebee and the red MacLaren doing vehicle things, and a confirmation of the name of the Transformers Reaction Force (the one with the lambda/triangle symbol we've been seeing for a while).

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Another fan, Arun09345, has been following the filming too, and kept their Instagram feed updated with images and clips of cameras being used on the Thames, and some Tower Bridge scenes from London, plus a slightly spoilery scene run-through for something big emerging from the river. Check them out below!

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That's all for now, we will keep the front page updated with more news as it comes in, so stay tuned to Seibertron.com - in the meantime feel free to discuss this news and more in the Energon Pub!
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830184)
Posted by Rainmaker on October 3rd, 2016 @ 4:40am CDT
That Bumblebee looks like one that would be in the TF5 toyline...

:MAXIMAL:
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830185)
Posted by Emerje on October 3rd, 2016 @ 4:48am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Yes yes....thank you thank you......don't all clap at once :-D


OK, that's kinda dumb. I was never a big fan of the whole Omega Lock thing.

This is, what, the fifth Cybertronian artifact to appear on our planet (and moon). Sure, they always have an explanation, but are we some sort of magnet for lost Cybertronian technology?

Emerje
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Posted by Kurona on October 3rd, 2016 @ 7:12am CDT
No, Optimus, you can't call your team the Reaction force! The fine bros will sue you!
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Posted by Nexus Knight on October 3rd, 2016 @ 9:01am CDT
Emerje wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Yes yes....thank you thank you......don't all clap at once :-D


OK, that's kinda dumb. I was never a big fan of the whole Omega Lock thing.

This is, what, the fifth Cybertronian artifact to appear on our planet (and moon). Sure, they always have an explanation, but are we some sort of magnet for lost Cybertronian technology?

Emerje


Fourth. The Seed for AOE was a Cybertronian (kinda) relic that Lockdown sold to the humans in exchange for helping hunt down OP. But that is a good point. In TF:Prime, they actually had a good reason for all the relic appearing on Earth. Movieverse, while I find them more enjoyable than most do, doesn't actually have a reason why except coincidence.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830222)
Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2016 @ 9:05am CDT
This being a TF film, the whole omega lock story will be as important as the tomb of the primes nonsense of the second one. Any plot and mythology will be quickly overlooked for more action and Mark Walhberg running. So I really dont think any of that matters. Does anyone here really watch these movies for its mythological world building aspect?
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Posted by Tyrannacon on October 3rd, 2016 @ 9:27am CDT
william-james88 wrote:This being a TF film, the whole omega lock story will be as important as the tomb of the primes nonsense of the second one. Any plot and mythology will be quickly overlooked for more action and Mark Walhberg running. So I really dont think any of that matters. Does anyone here really watch these movies for its mythological world building aspect?


HAHAHAHA! No. :P

The Bay TF films are an action film power house meant to appeal to general film-going audiences if anything, but does call outs to appease the fans too simultaneously. That doesn't make the films entirely crap or devoid of merit though, they can be enjoyed as they are.

This is true, at least with me, I consider the films decent action flicks overall. So I enjoy them as action films and not specifically TF films. I have enjoyed some of the things they've used from G1 and modified to be less-cartoon like and more "edgier" for an action film. I appreciate those callouts and marriage of ideas between continuities. The Bay TF films aren't as epic as something like Lord of the Rings and Star Wars though and comparing them will always have one winding up short. You really can't compare the two here with what Bay does and his angle with it all. He's not a cerebral-story type of person, and that is painfully obvious because of the gratuitous explosions and lens flare. So, he's an action guy, and that's what these films are more or less - action films. The humor in the TF films is also a lot more juvenile, which isn't exactly bad, but not great, except maybe RotF Devastator's scrotum. That was pretty bad. :P My personal preference is for the TF films to go to a more cerebral route and thought provoking deal, but that will probably not happen for a while if at all ever.

My dream movie idea that will likely never get made: TF novel "Exodus" and IDW Megatron Origin modified considerably to be into a film and dealing with the build up of Optimus and Megatron and their respective rises to prominence and power.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830247)
Posted by Bronzewolf on October 3rd, 2016 @ 10:52am CDT
SeibertronianSeibertronians, it seems that Santiago Cabrera has returned to the Last Knight set! Thanks to a couple of photos from his official Instagram among other sources, we have confirmation that the actor, rumored to be playing Merlin in the upcoming movie, has returned to filming, along with a couple helicopters! Check out the photos below, and discuss with the other citizens of Seibertron in the comments!

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And, as always, keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for all the latest news from the Transformers:The Last Knight set
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830265)
Posted by DeadCaL on October 3rd, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
I can't believe they're even letting those weak firework things off near the stone monuments. I thought pretty much nothing was allowed to happen around the actual stones.
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Posted by william-james88 on October 3rd, 2016 @ 1:25pm CDT
DeadCaL wrote:I can't believe they're even letting those weak firework things off near the stone monuments. I thought pretty much nothing was allowed to happen around the actual stones.

as the article said, this is a replica of stonehenge.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830383)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 3rd, 2016 @ 10:31pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Does anyone here besides Sly really watch these movies for its mythological world building aspect?
Fixed. ;)^
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Posted by Logan. on October 5th, 2016 @ 9:17am CDT
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830628)
Posted by Va'al on October 5th, 2016 @ 10:07am CDT
And so, it looks like the principal shooting for Paramount's latest project with Michael Bay, Transformers: The Last Knight, has ended its main shooting for at least the main human cast - though it looks like there may be some additional days for other aspects, all according to the original plan for ending on 15th October. Both the movie's official social media and cast member Isabela Moner have celebrated the event by posting images and thanks on their feeds - check out a couple below, featuring the cars in London and the humans Mark Wahlberg, Laura Haddock and Josh Duhamel!



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Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830646)
Posted by Powermaster Swag on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:02am CDT
Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:09am CDT
Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing
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Posted by Powermaster Swag on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:12am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

Okay then, thanks!
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:13am CDT
Powermaster Swag wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

Okay then, thanks!

Np problem.

Don't quote me on it though! That's just my guess
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Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:30am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

Okay then, thanks!

Np problem.

Don't quote me on it though! That's just my guess

Exclusive Seibertron news:

During the events of Transformers 5, Tessa is in college while her boyfriend, Lucky Charms, is out there racing.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830663)
Posted by o.supreme on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:45am CDT
^That will only be in the Novelization however, they don't have time to go into such details in the film itself. ;)
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Posted by Kurona on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:47am CDT
They don't have time to say "my daughter's away studying and her boyfriend went with her"? Just on line?

Then again, they didn't have enough time last movie to say Drift's name...
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Posted by o.supreme on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:54am CDT
^ sorry meant to put my j/k emoticon in there. fixed now :-D
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Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:56am CDT
Kurona wrote:They don't have time to say "my daughter's away studying and her boyfriend went with her"? Just on line?

Then again, they didn't have enough time last movie to say Drift's name...

Wait really? Even when they were barking out orders at eachother or when they were in that chapel and he pretended to slice one of their necks?
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Posted by JazZeke on October 5th, 2016 @ 11:58am CDT
Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Tragic short-shorts accident. Firemen tried to save her with the Jaws of Life, but it was already too late.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830678)
Posted by o.supreme on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:02pm CDT
Come to think of it...I don't think they said Crosshairs name either did they?
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:03pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:They don't have time to say "my daughter's away studying and her boyfriend went with her"? Just on line?

Then again, they didn't have enough time last movie to say Drift's name...

Wait really? Even when they were barking out orders at eachother or when they were in that chapel and he pretended to slice one of their necks?
Drift not only never had his name said in movie, but was only shown transforming between car mode and robot mode once onscreen in the whole movie, and said transformation was only in the background obscured entirely by Bumblebee's own transformation, so we practically got to see none of Drift's car-to-robot transformation.

His helicopter/robot transformations were shown onscreen, though.
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830680)
Posted by Sabrblade on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:04pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Come to think of it...I don't think they said Crosshairs name either did they?
I think it might have been said once. Don't remember where, but at least just once.
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Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:10pm CDT
Come to think of it, did they even use Bumblebee's name?




I kid I kid. None of the dinobots were called by name either, too bad. I do still find it super weird how Optimus speaks to them in ancient cybertronian and yet they dont speak back to him, as if they cant speak at all.And then Optimus speaks to them in english, so I really wonder if there was even a point to speaking cybertronian.
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Posted by o.supreme on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:13pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:None of the dinobots were called by name either,


Crosshairs says to the Spinosaur at the end..."I'll ride with you anytime Spike" (supposed to be Scorn) but...since when have TF names in bay films been very accurate

Devastator/Brawl
Dino/Mirage
Que/Wheeljack

"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever ;)
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1830688)
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:19pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:None of the dinobots were called by name either,


Crosshairs says to the Spinosaur at the end..."I'll ride with you anytime Spike" (supposed to be Scorn) but...since when have TF names in bay films been very accurate

Devastator/Brawl
Dino/Mirage
Que/Wheeljack

"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever ;)

I'm pretty sure that was just a nickname he gave him, he wouldnt know the character's name. it's like if I see a dog I dont know and go, "come here Fido!".
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:27pm CDT
Crosshairs was called out by name when they were on Lockdown's ship.

The only time Drift's name was used was in the scene leading up to Galvatron's attack, and it was on the aerial viewscreen the humans were using.

Hound was used a good bit
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Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2016 @ 12:30pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Crosshairs was called out by name when they were on Lockdown's ship.

The only time Drift's name was used was in the scene leading up to Galvatron's attack, and it was on the aerial viewscreen the humans were using.

Hound was used a good bit

YES, I do remember that part on the screen! No wonder it was odd to hear it hadnt been used. Since it was so clear there, but yeah it was never mentioned by anyone.
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Posted by TulioDude on October 6th, 2016 @ 10:59pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:
"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever ;)


In the context of that scene in ROTF,Lennox refers to all of the bikes as Arcee,like a single entity and is calling out the tiwns,Skids and Mudflap.
About all the bikes being Arcee was canon at some point.
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Posted by o.supreme on October 7th, 2016 @ 2:19pm CDT
But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.
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Posted by william-james88 on October 7th, 2016 @ 2:21pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 7th, 2016 @ 4:29pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.
Agreed.

Not to mention that immediately after that order was given, we see first the Arcee bikes and then the Twins in their ice cream truck configuration both chasing after Sideways. The rest of the order given was "Target coming your way!" and in the scene, Sideways is indeed driving in the direction towards the Twins before turning away from them as one of them says "'Kay, I got'em, I got'em," while Arcee's three bikes only ever follow behind Sideways the whole time, meaning the target wasn't coming Arcee's way but instead the Twins' way since Sideways was only ever seen driving away from Arcee while he nearly ran into Skids and Mudflap before turning away from them.
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Posted by william-james88 on October 7th, 2016 @ 6:41pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.
Agreed.

Not to mention that immediately after that order was given, we see first the Arcee bikes and then the Twins in their ice cream truck configuration both chasing after Sideways. The rest of the order given was "Target coming your way!" and in the scene, Sideways is indeed driving in the direction towards the Twins before turning away from them as one of them says "'Kay, I got'em, I got'em," while Arcee's three bikes only ever follow behind Sideways the whole time, meaning the target wasn't coming Arcee's way but instead the Twins' way since Sideways was only ever seen driving away from Arcee while he nearly ran into Skids and Mudflap before turning away from them.

I hate that scene. The deception car had no chance, we never even saw its robot form right. It was just a car that got sliced in half.
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Posted by X3ROhour on October 8th, 2016 @ 6:04pm CDT
Making a good TRANSFORMERS film is simple.

1) Character development. of the robots! THEY R PEOPLE, not shiny wallpaper to explode.

b) no humans

thirdly... care about what u r doing.

:HEADHURTS:
:michaelbay:
:BOOM:
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1831793)
Posted by william-james88 on October 8th, 2016 @ 6:28pm CDT
Z3ROhour wrote:Making a good TRANSFORMERS film is simple.

1) Character development. of the robots! THEY R PEOPLE, not shiny wallpaper to explode.

b) no humans

thirdly... care about what u r doing.

:HEADHURTS:
:michaelbay:
:BOOM:


G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?
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Posted by Kurona on October 8th, 2016 @ 6:47pm CDT
To be fair, Transformers fiction often seems to be better when there's no humans - or at least has their involvement be minimal. Many would hold up Beast Wars as the best cartoon and the only 'humans' in that were introduced very near the end and actually factored in as a plot point rather than being a forced human friend or setting.
And then there's the MTMTE comics which, by virtue of their setting, never have any humans in it. Period. Don't even think about saying holomatter avatars
That said... I do believe it can be done well. Sari in Animated was a good example imo, and I think that the Headmaster/Targetmaster/Powermaster/anything-master format holds a lot of potential. The problem is that most of the time human companions are a forced necessity that feel in the way and annoying rather than doing anything to add to or progress the story - what makes Sari and the -masters so good is that they do in some way tie into and progress the story rather than just being a forced necessary evil.
The humans in Bayformers... well, I understand why they're there. You can't as easily make a movie focusing purely on the Cybertronians, the CGI budget would need to be astronomical for that - so you need some scenes with humans. But imagine we're in a world where that budget does exist. I challenge even those who like the movies here; would taking out the humans in the movies be a negative in any way, cost and popularity aside? Because I honestly don't see a single good thing the human characters add to the movies in a purely story/character-focused sense.
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Posted by Sabrblade on October 8th, 2016 @ 8:32pm CDT
As I've previously referred to the Rescue Bots cartoon as being pretty much the antithesis of the movies, it's also pretty much the definitive win-all answer to how to have GOOD humans used WELL in Transformers fiction.

william-james88 wrote:G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?
Humans or no, as a movie it's nothing great by any standard other than animation and music, I'll say. ;)
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Posted by Kurona on October 8th, 2016 @ 8:52pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?
Humans or no, as a movie it's nothing great by any standard other than animation and music, I'll say. ;)

Unpopular opinion but something I agree with, aye. Much like the cartoon itself I find it a fun little thing to watch but nothing to take particularly seriously; it's pretty standard stuff (though also with the non-standard MASS KILLING SPREE OF YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTERS OH MY GOD HASBRO CALM DOWN)
... though what it also has that the cartoon doesn't is a ridiculously amazing soundtrack that fills you with 80s glee. I was born in 1996 and I can feel the 80s; let's not even get started on how Hot Rod's vehicle mode is the most ridiculously over-the-top meld of cheesy, what people thought the future would be and hot 80s awesomeness.
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Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 8th, 2016 @ 9:34pm CDT
:shock: whaa? 1996? christ! your just a young un! barely even 20 ;)
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1831881)
Posted by Burn on October 8th, 2016 @ 11:50pm CDT
Please keep the topic related to The Last Knight. >:oP
Re: Michael Bay is Blowing Up Stonehenge in Transformers: The Last Knight (1831923)
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 9th, 2016 @ 7:23am CDT
I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet ;)

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