Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies

Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies

Wednesday, April 5th, 2017 12:00am CDT

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Several websites such as Movie Web are inaccurately reporting that Michael Bay said that Paramount has 14 Transformers movies planned. He said nothing of the sort and those sites are making a Cybertronian planet full of assumptions from Michael Bay's quote, which I've now heard twice ... once in person from Michael Bay himself at Paramount's Super Fan Event a couple of weeks ago and again in the video that prefaced the footage shown at IMAX theaters in select markets worldwide on the night of April 4th. Here's what Michael Bay said (as fast as I could write these notes down at both events).

Michael Bay:A couple of years ago we had a writer's room with 14 writers. We locked them up in a room for about a month and they came up with 14 different stories of where this franchise could go in the future. They came up with a wonderful mythology.


Transformers News: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies

No where in what Michael Bay said did he make statements that Paramount has 14 movies planned or anything of that sort. He said 14 writers came up with 14 different ideas of where this franchise could go in the future. He said they came up with a wonderful mythology. I interpreted that as "here's 14 goals we could go after" or "here's 14 plot points we could tackle" and that those 14 plot points collectively became the mythology to which Michael Bay referred. Does it mean there are 14 movies planned? Most likely not. Did Michael Bay say anything about 14 movies being planned? Not at all. 14 different stories of where this franchise could go in the future. That's all he said. Read into that what you will. But what Movie Web is reporting is inaccurate because that's a whole boatload of assumptions from things that were not said.

I'll tackle of some of the differences between the footage we were shown at the Super fan Event two weeks ago versus the footage shown on April 4th. There were surprisingly many differences, different scenes, scenes that were absent, and more will be some of what I address tomorrow.


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Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871829)
Posted by Seibertron on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:24am CDT
Several websites such as Movie Web are inaccurately reporting that Michael Bay said that Paramount has 14 Transformers movies planned. He said nothing of the sort and those sites are making a Cybertronian planet full of assumptions from Michael Bay's quote, which I've now heard twice ... once in person from Michael Bay himself at Paramount's Super Fan Event a couple of weeks ago and again in the video that prefaced the footage shown at IMAX theaters in select markets worldwide on the night of April 4th.

Here's what Michael Bay said (as fast as I could write these notes down at both events):

A couple of years ago we had a writer's room with 14 writers. We locked them up in a room for about a month and they came up with 14 different stories of where this franchise could go in the future. They came up with a wonderful mythology.


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No where in what Michael Bay said did he make statements that Paramount has 14 movies planned or anything of that sort. He said 14 writers came up with 14 different ideas of where this franchise could go in the future. He said they came up with a wonderful mythology. I interpreted that as "here's 14 goals we could go after" or "here's 14 plot points we could tackle" and that those 14 plot points collectively became the mythology to which Michael Bay referred. Does it mean there are 14 movies planned? Most likely not. Did Michael Bay say anything about 14 movies being planned? Not at all. 14 different stories of where this franchise could go in the future. That's all he said. Read into that what you will. But what Movie Web is reporting is inaccurate because that's a whole boatload of assumptions from things that were not said.

I'll tackle of some of the differences between the footage we were shown at the Super fan Event two weeks ago versus the footage shown on April 4th. There were surprisingly many differences, different scenes, scenes that were absent, and more will be some of what I address tomorrow.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871833)
Posted by Deadput on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:32am CDT
Thank god someone cleared that up thanks Seib your the hero we need.

It was 14 scripts and while unstated it sounds like one of them or a combination of a few of them became The Last Knight.

But who knows maybe parts of the other scripts will become parts of a future movie or two I mean the Bumblebee movie is supposed to come out next year.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871871)
Posted by ScottyP on April 5th, 2017 @ 7:53am CDT
BS Shutdown Mode is my favorite of your alt modes :x
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871881)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 5th, 2017 @ 9:00am CDT
(I know I'm probably in the minority but I'd be quite happy with 14 more TF movies and accompanying toylines, thank you)


:michaelbay:
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871959)
Posted by o.supreme on April 5th, 2017 @ 12:43pm CDT
I agree its agonizing how news is reported inaccurately, but apparently screen junkies is doing some sort of live event scheduled for 2:45pm (EST) 10:45am (PST) in just under 3 minuets based on this information...what the reason is for the "live" report...I have no idea.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871964)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 12:57pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:I agree its agonizing how news is reported inaccurately, but apparently screen junkies is doing some sort of live event scheduled for 2:45pm (EST) 10:45am (PST) in just under 3 minuets based on this information...what the reason is for the "live" report...I have no idea.

They should know better, one of our very own staff members is also on their team.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871965)
Posted by Seibertron on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I agree its agonizing how news is reported inaccurately, but apparently screen junkies is doing some sort of live event scheduled for 2:45pm (EST) 10:45am (PST) in just under 3 minuets based on this information...what the reason is for the "live" report...I have no idea.

They should know better, one of our very own staff members is also on their team.


Who?
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871966)
Posted by o.supreme on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:They should know better, one of our very own staff members is also on their team.


Really? Is it Victor?
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1871968)
Posted by william-james88 on April 5th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:I agree its agonizing how news is reported inaccurately, but apparently screen junkies is doing some sort of live event scheduled for 2:45pm (EST) 10:45am (PST) in just under 3 minuets based on this information...what the reason is for the "live" report...I have no idea.

They should know better, one of our very own staff members is also on their team.


Who?

Jon 3.0
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1884629)
Posted by Va'al on May 27th, 2017 @ 12:21pm CDT
Discovering the wetness of water in economics terms, CNBC has published a short article / interview with Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst for comScore, discussing the international impact and importance for US-based productions. Specifically, Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers, which are both much bigger since their first release abroad than they are in domestic markets.

In addition, they also add that the Transformers franchise will be adding four more movies at least after The Last Knight - three (ish) of which we know about: Bumblebee, Cybertron, and potentially Ancient Rome. But we personally think the article is just speculating. What do you think? Let us know in the Energon Pub!

Dergarabedian said that international audiences, particularly in China, India and South America, still embrace these films because they grew up on big American blockbusters and enjoy the action-packed adventures.

"Action is the international language and that's what audiences really respond to," he said.

"The Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise isn't the only one that gets an international boost. The "Transformers" films have also been met by lackluster reviews and U.S. audience fatigue.

The fourth "Transformers" film, "Age of Extinction," which was released in 2014, garnered more than $858.6 million in international tickets. Domestically, its ticket sales for the full run of the film were about $245 million.

Dergarabedian attributed the film's international success not only to the action sequences, but the cast of Mark Wahlberg, an action movie star, and the fact that much of the film took place in a city in China. He said that international audiences like to see films set on a global stage

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Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales
Source: Disney
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales

If you've looked at the movie listings this weekend, and asked yourself "Why is Disney making another 'Pirates of the Caribbean film?" you're not alone.

The fifth installment "Dead Men Tell No Tales" opens Friday in the U.S. With each new addition to the Pirates' franchise, the reviews have gotten worse and the U.S. audiences have shrunk. But overseas, fans are still enamored with Johnny Depp's swashbuckling portrayal of Captain Jack Sparrow.

International markets have driven the majority of box office revenue for the "Pirates" franchise since the first film was released in 2003. At the box office "Curse of the Black Pearl" saw a pretty even split between U.S. and international ticket sales, but with each additional release, that gap has widened.

By the fourth film, "On Stranger Tides," more than 75 percent of box office revenue was earned overseas, a whopping $804.8 million.

For comparison, the film garnered $241 million in the U.S., less than the opening weekend gross of "Star Wars: The Force Awakens."

"U.S. audiences have been subjected to so many sequels over the decades that it is hard to maintain the excitement," Paul Dergarabedian, senior media analyst for comScore, told CNBC.

Despite the lackluster performances in the United States, two of the "Pirates" films have garnered more than $1 billion in total global ticket sales and one fell just shy of the mark with $962 million.

Dergarabedian said that international audiences, particularly in China, India and South America, still embrace these films because they grew up on big American blockbusters and enjoy the action-packed adventures.

"Action is the international language and that's what audiences really respond to," he said.

"The Pirates of the Caribbean" franchise isn't the only one that gets an international boost. The "Transformers" films have also been met by lackluster reviews and U.S. audience fatigue.

The fourth "Transformers" film, "Age of Extinction," which was released in 2014, garnered more than $858.6 million in international tickets. Domestically, its ticket sales for the full run of the film were about $245 million.

Dergarabedian attributed the film's international success not only to the action sequences, but the cast of Mark Wahlberg, an action movie star, and the fact that much of the film took place in a city in China. He said that international audiences like to see films set on a global stage.

"If you look at the numbers, international has to be at the forefront," Dergarabedian said. "Appealing to global audiences is the driving force."

That's why this summer a fifth "Transformers" film, "The Last Knight," will hit theaters.

While several cast members of the "Pirates" franchise have hinted that there could be more films in the future, the studio does not currently have any plans for a sixth installment.

"Transformers," on the other hand, is slated to release at least four more films after "The Last Knight," one of which will be a standalone "Bumblebee" movie set for release in 2018.


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Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901478)
Posted by Va'al on August 2nd, 2017 @ 5:11pm CDT
Remember the writers' room over at Paramount, where various names gathered to produce the future of the Transformers Universe, and The Last Knight specifically? And remember how it was headed by Akiva Goldsman? Well, it looks like the latter is no longer the case, according to SlashFilm.

When Paramount and Hasbro began laying the groundwork for a potential Transformers Cinematic Universe, they hired Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman to lead a writers room to expand the world. The first movie that resulted from that writers room was this summer’s Transformers: The Last Knight, with a Bumblebee standalone movie next in line.

Things got less certain in the lead-up to The Last Knight’s release, with both director Michael Bay and star Mark Wahlberg suggesting they were done with Transformers movies. Now, /Film has learned that Goldsman is done, too. Goldsman spoke with us at the Television Critics Association, where he was representing Star Trek: Discovery.

Asked if he was still involved with Transformers, Goldsman simply said, “No.”


A slightly longer, but not that much, response was given by producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura, via Franchise Fred News (full story here):

“The writers room which was set up by all of us was set up to explore the mythology more,” Di Bonaventura explained. “It was set up for a few different reasons but the biggest thing that happened in it was they expanded the mythology of Transformers in a way that allowed us to go to King Arthur. There’s different areas, like we’ve examined World War II, etc.”

As for the state of the proposed Transformers extended universe, Di Bonaventura is focused on Bumblebee.


Does this change anything for you? Are you still interested in the rumoured Roman-era movie, Cybertron prequel, and more WWII action? Let us know in the Energon Pub discussion!

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Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901483)
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 2nd, 2017 @ 5:30pm CDT
It's a shame that Goldsman is no longer a part of the writers' board. Surely The Last Knight didn't reach many expectations for both fans and the studio, but I kind of feel that it's best to let TLK be the final main TF movie. This might sound weird, but I feel that with the series now being 10 years old, it's best to have the Bumblebee movie and the potential Cybertron prequel be the only movies so they can take us back full circle to the 2007 movie. After that, once the hype dies down, I feel that Hasbro could then make a reboot. (I have a couple of ideas that could make it stand out from other TF works, and it's neither like this series or a CG version of G1)
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901488)
Posted by SnoopDawg on August 2nd, 2017 @ 5:47pm CDT
Honestly, I'm glad Akiva Goldsman is out ... sure he may have an academy award and his screenplay also won an Oscar ... but he's just not fit for sci-fi/action movies. I remember The Last Knight getting all the hype when it was first teased with a trailer. Then comes release time and all the hype dies down due to reviews. The exact same thing is also happening with The Dark Tower which is going to be released this Friday. One of the more anticipated films of 2017 and days before it's release, there's not much hype due to early criticisms. I just hope this film is a reboot of some sorts so The Last Knight isn't cannon anymore. Otherwise, please let this movie franchise end ...

Edit: Goldsman also wrote Batman and Robin, so that's enough reason
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901493)
Posted by Barricade.it on August 2nd, 2017 @ 6:28pm CDT
I don't think TF is a dead movie franchise. I think they tried to bet on this reboot and they've lost. It's right that some heads fall.

Nevertheless, TF have still a great appeal even though a radical choice like TLK has seriously damaged it (though imho TLK is far better than AOE). The only way to give this franchise some new energy is to go back to the roots and guide things in their own place, without all the mess that has nothing to do with TFuniverse itself.

I think Bee Movie will have more success than TLK right because from the first news it appears this movie will do exacty this.

In other words: they should take courage and cancel TLK and AOE and let TFs be TFs.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901525)
Posted by kurthy on August 2nd, 2017 @ 10:31pm CDT
The biggest problem with the TFs movies is that my 9 year old hasn't seen one of the 5 movies. They aren't for little kids and they should work on getting kids back in the theater. He's grown up on g1, beast wars, prime, rescue bots and rid15 (also currently reading IDW) but has no interest in those movies and I have no interest in showing them to him.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901527)
Posted by Dagon on August 2nd, 2017 @ 10:44pm CDT
Well. There goes that quality cinematic universe, I guess. Back to bad scripts after the meisterwerk that was The Last Knight.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901539)
Posted by JazZeke on August 3rd, 2017 @ 12:22am CDT
Dagon wrote:Well. There goes that quality cinematic universe, I guess. Back to bad scripts after the meisterwerk that was The Last Knight.

Again, "Batman & Robin." I doubt quality was ever on the table.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901563)
Posted by Black Hat on August 3rd, 2017 @ 4:47am CDT
After the dumpster fire that was TLK? Good.

To be honest, I think the writer's room was part of the problem. Too many cooks spoil the broth. TLK was a mess of a hundred potentially good ideas all crammed into one movie. Had it focused purely on the Knights/staff storyline, or the Autobots on the run, or the Decepticons getting out of prison, it might have worked. As is, having all those story threads and ideas running through one movie was a recipe for disaster. The only movies I've seen that pull off that amount of different subplots well have been Amelie and most Coen Brothers movies, and fairly obviously comparing those to Transformers is a silly idea.

If we do get a TF6 (not counting the spinoffs) hopefully it'll be a return to form- one or two writers at most, a straightforward but solid story and plenty of robot action with only the token amount of humans.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901568)
Posted by RAR on August 3rd, 2017 @ 5:23am CDT
I'm disappointed the Movie Press is pretty much ignoring The Last Knight - as there is some very odd things that seem to have happened with this Movie that made it go off the rails in some uniquely bizarre ways.

I can only really conclude that Bay just used the people complaining about them being to long to not finish his movie properly at all let alone just cut what was shot. It's clear that a whole lot of what he left in was filler and that other scenes are poorly explained - over-explained or not explained at all.

I don't think the usual problems all Transformers Movie share is going to be down to a reduced run time - they will be down to Bay being incapable of doing his job properly and Paramount being incapable of approving a script that makes sense.

People say the same thing again and again and they don't listen

People say
1) The screen is to dark (even worse in 3D) and you can't tell the characters apart (even the humans sometimes)
2) The framing of scenes is just wonky and disjointed with robots and sometimes people out of frame and it's just confusing to look at.
3) The Music is to generic and repetitive and self-reverential
4) Characters just disappear and also take actions that make no sense
5) Character are in the Movie who serve no purpose who's entire presence could be trimmed to 2 lines of dialgue and a saving of millions of dollars
6) Lack of Expert approval - any technical dialogue - is ALWAYS wrong - and often the visual are wrong too.
Re: Here's what Michael Bay actually said about the future of Transformers movies (1901569)
Posted by Va'al on August 3rd, 2017 @ 5:28am CDT
RAR wrote:I'm disappointed the Movie Press is pretty much ignoring The Last Knight - as there is some very odd things that seem to have happened with this Movie that made it go off the rails in some uniquely bizarre ways.

I can only really conclude that Bay just used the people complaining about them being to long to not finish his movie properly at all let alone just cut what was shot. It's clear that a whole lot of what he left in was filler and that other scenes are poorly explained - over-explained or not explained at all.

I don't think the usual problems all Transformers Movie share is going to be down to a reduced run time - they will be down to Bay being incapable of doing his job properly and Paramount being incapable of approving a script that makes sense.

People say the same thing again and again and they don't listen

People say
1) The screen is to dark (even worse in 3D) and you can't tell the characters apart (even the humans sometimes)
2) The framing of scenes is just wonky and disjointed with robots and sometimes people out of frame and it's just confusing to look at.
3) The Music is to generic and repetitive and self-reverential
4) Characters just disappear and also take actions that make no sense
5) Character are in the Movie who serve no purpose who's entire presence could be trimmed to 2 lines of dialgue and a saving of millions of dollars
6) Lack of Expert approval - any technical dialogue - is ALWAYS wrong - and often the visual are wrong too.


a) probably not the right thread
b) movie media is ignoring TLK? huh?

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