Michael Bay Video: The Finishing Touch for Transformers 4 Age of Extinction
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Posted by cruizerdave on December 8th, 2014 @ 9:50am CST

Last I checked, the Academy didn't have categories for "Best Fourth Time Rehash," "Best Minimalist Use of Robotic Dinosaurs," or "Best Onscreen Justification for Statutory Rape."
Posted by SlyTF1 on December 8th, 2014 @ 10:53am CST
Posted by RhA on December 8th, 2014 @ 11:01am CST
SlyTF1 wrote:It deserves it. But, it won't win. There's literally no chance. This is the world I'm stuck in.
You're stuck in?
Posted by cruizerdave on December 8th, 2014 @ 11:27am CST
SlyTF1 wrote:It deserves it. But, it won't win. There's literally no chance. This is the world I'm stuck in.
Wait, you're serious?
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 8th, 2014 @ 11:53am CST
Posted by Megatron Wolf on December 8th, 2014 @ 12:46pm CST
Posted by RhA on December 8th, 2014 @ 1:03pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Sly is always serious, especially about the films.
Sly is to the movies what duragrip is to Omega Supreme.
It's just the world we're stuck in.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 8th, 2014 @ 1:14pm CST
Oh, the stories I could tell you...cruizerdave wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:It deserves it. But, it won't win. There's literally no chance. This is the world I'm stuck in.
Wait, you're serious?
Posted by 0megazordus Prime on December 8th, 2014 @ 2:20pm CST


Posted by ZeroWolf on December 8th, 2014 @ 3:13pm CST
Posted by Burn on December 8th, 2014 @ 3:20pm CST
It's like entering into a bunch of raffles. You don't use all your money to buy tickets in just one, you spread it around to increase your chances.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on December 8th, 2014 @ 5:31pm CST


Posted by YRQRM0 on December 8th, 2014 @ 6:02pm CST
Posted by craggy on December 8th, 2014 @ 6:55pm CST
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on December 8th, 2014 @ 7:11pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Surely the jokes come from the writer.
While I can't confirm on the jokes from DOTM (got the no-frills DVD), the Bumblebee peeing scene was Bay (he added that while filming the scene, on a whim) as well as the infamous Devastator wrecking balls in ROTF.
The human jokes weren't really his fault, technically. He simply let them off the leash, and allowed them to do their own "improv" thing. If you listen to his commentary in the first movie, he's apparently a massive fan of improvisational "acting", which in the case of Leo, Jerry and Sam's mom, is more like horsing around on set.
Thankfully, it seems he's done with that kind of thing, as seen in AoE. While not perfect, it's something I can sit back and enjoy for the cutting edge CGI and decent fight scenes, and not have to put up with annoying humans every few minutes. The new cast is a massive improvement.
Posted by BERSEKAEL on December 8th, 2014 @ 11:42pm CST
Supervisor- "hey guys we need a BAD GUY looking like head sculpt...any ideas?" lol

*BTW this video is part of the bonus content on the bluray dvd set... I really wish Mr. Bay directs the next movies.
Posted by chivesbot20 on December 9th, 2014 @ 8:23pm CST
Posted by TurboMMaster on December 13th, 2014 @ 2:12pm CST
Posted by dreadwing95 on December 13th, 2014 @ 2:45pm CST
TurboMMaster wrote:I don't understand why people are hating Galvatron head design so much... I think that while not great, it was decent enough (Even if I want Galvatron to look a little more "Megatron-like), I saw worse things in movieverse...
i like it for the most part. sometimes i cant tell where his mouth is when i look at pictures of him but thats about it
Posted by Insurgent on December 14th, 2014 @ 11:24am CST
Posted by TulioDude on December 14th, 2014 @ 4:51pm CST
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 18th, 2014 @ 11:28pm CST
Posted by Peridot on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:21am CST

Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:24am CST
It's the lighting/shadow on the angles of his chin.Metro Prime wrote:At 1:16 into the video- Crosshairs has a beard/stubble?!
He does have a mustache, though.

Posted by Peridot on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:38am CST
Sabrblade wrote:It's the lighting/shadow on the angles of his chin.Metro Prime wrote:At 1:16 into the video- Crosshairs has a beard/stubble?!
He does have a mustache, though.
This definitely doesn't look like a shadow:

You can also see it here:

It's actually very appropriate, considering Crosshairs's personality and voice actor.
Posted by Sabrblade on December 19th, 2014 @ 12:30pm CST
Sure it does. Those parts angle downward and inward, being the undersides of his nose and lips.Metro Prime wrote:This definitely doesn't look like a shadow:
Posted by CrankyOldTruck on December 19th, 2014 @ 11:49pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Sure it does. Those parts angle downward and inward, being the undersides of his nose and lips.Metro Prime wrote:This definitely doesn't look like a shadow:
And I'm going to argue against both explanations. What you have is a CG animator taking artistic license with his color palette and letting the audience run wild with its imagination. There are indeed two different colors but the shadow theory is nixed because, in the close up pic, there are two colors on the same plane on the left side of his face (our right side as we look at it) and it's receiving even light
The facial hair theory is blown because the deeper color that is supposed as "facial hair" is such that, if you take his entire face into account, he would have "hair" all over his face in a pattern and places that no human would ever have it.
Nice to see your imaginations are still working boys, but that's all you've got there ...imagination. Follow the patterns, follow the full degree of lighting and then get inside the mind of a CGI guy and you'll have your answer. I know, my way isn't as much fun.
Posted by Peridot on December 20th, 2014 @ 7:37am CST
CrankyOldTruck wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Sure it does. Those parts angle downward and inward, being the undersides of his nose and lips.Metro Prime wrote:This definitely doesn't look like a shadow:
And I'm going to argue against both explanations. What you have is a CG animator taking artistic license with his color palette and letting the audience run wild with its imagination. There are indeed two different colors but the shadow theory is nixed because, in the close up pic, there are two colors on the same plane on the left side of his face (our right side as we look at it) and it's receiving even light
The facial hair theory is blown because the deeper color that is supposed as "facial hair" is such that, if you take his entire face into account, he would have "hair" all over his face in a pattern and places that no human would ever have it.
Nice to see your imaginations are still working boys, but that's all you've got there ...imagination. Follow the patterns, follow the full degree of lighting and then get inside the mind of a CGI guy and you'll have your answer. I know, my way isn't as much fun.
Animators can't just "take artistic license". Paramount had to give ILM some finalized (or at least near finalized) concept art at some point, which they used for the final models. ILM cannot just alter the designs because they feel like it. The only spot that's even out of place or unnatural, at least noticably so, is the stuff under his eyes, and that could easily be war paint or anti-glare stripes. AND EVEN THEN, they're giant alien shapeshifting robots. Do you really expect their facial "hair", if it's even hair, to conform exactly to human facial hair growth patterns?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 20th, 2014 @ 2:47pm CST
I disagree. There's nothing about the facial structure suggesting that those parts are angled inward. Also, they're the same shade above and under his mouth. So if he has a mustache (as you claim) then he has to have a small beard, or at the very least, stubble. Otherwise, he has neither, which is what it looks like to me. If he did, his face would look a little more like Sentinel's did in DoTM, not flat and smooth as it does in those stills.Sabrblade wrote:Sure it does. Those parts angle downward and inward, being the undersides of his nose and lips.Metro Prime wrote:This definitely doesn't look like a shadow:
Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 22nd, 2014 @ 9:21am CST








Posted by Sabrblade on December 22nd, 2014 @ 10:52am CST
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ler/31445/Rodimus Prime wrote::lol:![]()
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 22nd, 2014 @ 11:12am CST

Posted by Sabrblade on December 22nd, 2014 @ 11:15am CST
What's the other thread?Rodimus Prime wrote:So now 2 threads have the video.

Posted by Rodimus Prime on December 22nd, 2014 @ 11:59am CST

Posted by LOST Cybertronian on February 9th, 2015 @ 6:22pm CST
Creating the Knightship for "Transformers: Age of Extinction" was an immense challenge for the visual effects team due to it's massive scale. In fact, the Knightship is over five times larger than the worm-like drilling robot that appeared in "Dark of the Moon" which had previously held the record at ILM for most complex model.
Posted by Ultra Markus on February 9th, 2015 @ 6:48pm CST
maybe its unicrons hand.............
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 10th, 2015 @ 4:54am CST
Posted by Autobot032 on March 15th, 2015 @ 2:56pm CDT
2014 wasn't the strongest box office year, movies didn't sell as well as they had in past years and the economy has been rough on a lot of people, so frivolous spending such as going to the movies (which can be incredibly expensive) is out of the question for some, if not many.
With this in mind, seeing Age Of Extinction take the number one spot is awesome for us Transformer fans because the brand is still alive and fresh, even with new and casual fans as well old school who've been here since the beginning. With more Transformers success, the more Transformers toys and series we'll get and that's always a good thing.
THE BOTTOM LINE: Transformers: Age Of Extinction turned in a $245M domestic gross, did $545M foreign and another $301M China (Paramount kept $75 million of that), for a total of $1.09 billion. That is just short of the last installment, Transformers: Dark Of The Moon, which grossed $1.12B to become the first Transformers to crack the billion dollar gross mark.
You can read the full article and see the rest of the staggering numbers over at Deadline, here, and when you're done come on back to the forums and share your thoughts on this big news!

Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 15th, 2015 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by griftimus prime on March 15th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
Posted by Autobot_Benz on March 15th, 2015 @ 3:28pm CDT
Posted by Bouncy X on March 15th, 2015 @ 6:13pm CDT
okay i just said that because those above me claimed it the worst and then another the best. i wanted to three little bears-it-up!!!
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 15th, 2015 @ 6:15pm CDT
Posted by TimothyR on March 15th, 2015 @ 6:53pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 15th, 2015 @ 7:53pm CDT
TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2015 @ 9:01pm CDT
On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
Posted by JazZeke on March 15th, 2015 @ 9:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
That really bugged me too. Are we really supposed to believe humans could build better Transformers than the Transformers themselves? (Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)
Regarding the headline, I'm downright shocked that this movie managed to beat out Guardians of the Galaxy. GotG was by no means a perfect movie, but it was miles smarter and more original than AoE. Plus Gunn proved that you can have a movie where CGI characters get just as much focus and character development as the human actors.
Posted by Sabrblade on March 15th, 2015 @ 9:22pm CDT
THAT I had no problem with because it's supposed to be a dumb name. Wembley and/or Joshua said it was a focus grouped name, which means it's meant to sound lame as a jab from the movie towards focus groups.JazZeke wrote:(Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)
Posted by Flashwave on March 15th, 2015 @ 11:25pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
That really bugged me too. Are we really supposed to believe humans could build better Transformers than the Transformers themselves? (Also, "Transformium", really? That's even worse than "Unobtanium".)
Regarding the headline, I'm downright shocked that this movie managed to beat out Guardians of the Galaxy. GotG was by no means a perfect movie, but it was miles smarter and more original than AoE. Plus Gunn proved that you can have a movie where CGI characters get just as much focus and character development as the human actors.
I think the premise of the "transformation" was that it was built around a Transformer's Cellular structure, and their ability to reformat their exoskeleton based on a scanned vehicle mode, whereas a traditional Transformer does it via contortionism. *Cough*Nanites*/Cough*. They were growing Transformers out of Stem Cells basically, by harvesting mechaorganic tissue and poking it with the proverbial science stick. The THEORY, I have no problem with, because sure, a nanite cloud rebuilding itself would look like a blob. PROBABLY, the Transformers never designed this trait because they already had a method of Transforming that worked and worked well. Chalk it up to complacency or simple ignorance. The problem I have with it is the way it was handled graphically, and that when you introduce Nanites, it becomes very hard to take down the enemy realitically, which is what ultimately happened.
I don't recall when TF4 and GotG came out, but I think TF4 simply beat it out because it had more time to sit in Theaters, a better following who saw it multiple times (GotG was a newcomer even to casual comic fans compared to Thor or Ironman), and a stronger showing (and support, especially in China) overseas. Those overseas numbers help.
As for "Transformium", G1 introduced a lot of metals too. As a fan, I kinda wish they'd stuck with Cybertronum, but there's no reason for a human to use Cybrtron as a root name, since they've only ever seen Cybertron for 20 minutes.
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 16th, 2015 @ 1:11am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:On a different yet related note, can you instead explain how mere human beings were able to perfect such a sophisticated form of transformation that borders on being full on magic, when the highly advanced technological alien race had only perfected a much less advanced form of transformation that keeps to more realistic levels of feasibility and practicality, despite the art of transformation being part of the latter's very nature?SlyTF1 wrote:TimothyR wrote:i know that the story for these movies is never going to be anything special.. so, my only real complaint is the way the human built transformers transformed. that morphing that they did where they floated around was awful, it really lost some of the magic of what transformers are. i really hope they get rid of that **** for the next one.. something tells me they won't though.
They're supposed to be abominations. They're made by humans. They aren't meant to be natural "Transformers." They're drones.
They didn't "perfect," anything. Them breaking down into their base particles in order to transform isn't perfected. That's primitive, at best. It may be more useful for combat purposes, but far from perfected.