Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4

Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4

Saturday, March 31st, 2018 4:16am CDT

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I love pork sausages, I have them for breakfast once or twice a week, it's kinda like a treat for me.

So this morning I sat down to have some pork sausages for breakfast, and to read Transformers vs Visionaries issue #4. I knew what I was getting into, I even told myself "don't do this, you won't enjoy your breakfast". But I didn't listen and continued forward on my path of self-torture.

Which hey, turns out, Witterquick and Mortdred are getting tortured too! So at least I'm not alone in my suffering.

Transformers News: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4


Anyhoo ... really, just another bland issue, which I thought was actually the last issue in this series, imagine my disappointment when I discovered there's actually another issue. HUZZAH! Another chance for self-torture!

The plot, as we all know, magical talisman thingy heading to core of Cybertron to trigger magic stuff to turn Cybertron into new human for squishy magical beings. And then there's the magic countering thingy. That's where we left off last issue?

Transformers News: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4


Yeah ... not much happens there. It's mostly about the Visionaries standing around being evil or emo.

What I don't get though is why they need to secure the anti-magic bomb to the outside of Quickswitch when Wheeljack and Ironhide ride inside him. Why not just carry it? That's just ... ugh. It makes no sense!

But hey, at least we get to see Quickswitch! You know, that OTHER six-changer? Yeah, he's dead.

Transformers News: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4


This issue didn't send me into fanboy rage like the first issue did. Maybe I'm over it? Maybe the writers are over it and are just going through the motions? Maybe the thought of the whole universe ending makes me think they can do whatever they want, it's all going away soon?



Overall, meh. It's an issue that moves the story line along at a snails pace.

Credit(s): IDW, Burn


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Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949490)
Posted by Deadput on March 31st, 2018 @ 5:31am CDT
Well with Unicron coming and the end of the IDW continuity in hand I guess killing Quickswitch off is something they might as well get over and done with. So really I don't even care.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949495)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 6:43am CDT
I ain’t phased. Not because it’s the end or it’s this series. As I’ve said I’m enjoying the series just fine. Getting upset over Quickswitch is like getting upset over a micromaster. He was literally no one. It’s not like Ratbat in issue 2 of RID of trailbreaker in MTMTE or even a throttlebot in OP
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949498)
Posted by Va'al on March 31st, 2018 @ 7:39am CDT
I think there's a big difference between being upset and being annoyed at a character being used for fodder - especially when that has been the case for 3 out of 4 issues so far.

I was about to write my review when we spotted Burn's comments and decided to use that instead: he hit all the things I wanted to say about this issue. I have no ill feelings towards the book, but it's a great pile of mediocre nothing at this point.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949499)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 7:49am CDT
Va'al wrote:I think there's a big difference between being upset and being annoyed at a character being used for fodder - especially when that has been the case for 3 out of 4 issues so far.

I was about to write my review when we spotted Burn's comments and decided to use that instead: he hit all the things I wanted to say about this issue. I have no ill feelings towards the book, but it's a great pile of mediocre nothing at this point.



Yeah but in that same way wasn’t Ratbat, Sunstorm, Pipes, blot, Triggerhappy and Hardhead all used as fodder. Let’s not kid ourselves Pipes was given one story in MTMTE and proceeded to be in the background and used as a punching bag until he was stomped on and proceeded to continue being used as a punching bag even after with no one even acknowledging his death until 5 years later with the latest issue of LL.

People were sad but no one was accusing Roberts or Barber in his books of introducing characters as fodder because that’s all some of them were. They were present to die.

Look at Simon furmans career where he gets off killing EVERYONE but grimlock and Shockwave no one complains about that at all. If anything it’s become a joke anymore with “well who’s Simon killing in this story?”
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949509)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2018 @ 9:19am CDT
Looking at it in that respect, Simon furman has a lot in common with Yoshiyuki "kill'em all" Tomino, creator and mass murderer of the mobile suit gundam franchise
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949551)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 12:18pm CDT
I do love the end of the review that says the story is moving yet at a snails pace. MEANWHILE 74 issues later in MTMTE/LL were finally reaching Cyberutopia not because of story progression but due to macguffins and convenient coincidences but we’re gonna praise that a lot more for...things and...stuff. :lol:

I’m just playing devils advocate but let’s not kid ourselves, were not reaching the end because of the story. The warren, something getaway decides to bring up years after joining the crew that can get them there is conveniently able to reach cyberutopia in moments and Rodimus crew also conveniently discovered it because that’s what they were flying into are all now where it’s going. And scorponok is also using this thing because he is part of this plot.

I mean come on now.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949566)
Posted by Va'al on March 31st, 2018 @ 1:24pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:
Va'al wrote:I think there's a big difference between being upset and being annoyed at a character being used for fodder - especially when that has been the case for 3 out of 4 issues so far.

I was about to write my review when we spotted Burn's comments and decided to use that instead: he hit all the things I wanted to say about this issue. I have no ill feelings towards the book, but it's a great pile of mediocre nothing at this point.



Yeah but in that same way wasn’t Ratbat, Sunstorm, Pipes, blot, Triggerhappy and Hardhead all used as fodder. Let’s not kid ourselves Pipes was given one story in MTMTE and proceeded to be in the background and used as a punching bag until he was stomped on and proceeded to continue being used as a punching bag even after with no one even acknowledging his death until 5 years later with the latest issue of LL.

People were sad but no one was accusing Roberts or Barber in his books of introducing characters as fodder because that’s all some of them were. They were present to die.

Look at Simon furmans career where he gets off killing EVERYONE but grimlock and Shockwave no one complains about that at all. If anything it’s become a joke anymore with “well who’s Simon killing in this story?”


I take your points, but still see a lot of this as unnecessary in a series that is supposed to be a crossover. Taking characters from the 'other franchise' in your series just to use them as redshirts is just a bit.. lazy? I dunno. As I said, I'm not angry, just pftfptft about it all.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949572)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 1:44pm CDT
Va'al wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
Va'al wrote:I think there's a big difference between being upset and being annoyed at a character being used for fodder - especially when that has been the case for 3 out of 4 issues so far.

I was about to write my review when we spotted Burn's comments and decided to use that instead: he hit all the things I wanted to say about this issue. I have no ill feelings towards the book, but it's a great pile of mediocre nothing at this point.



Yeah but in that same way wasn’t Ratbat, Sunstorm, Pipes, blot, Triggerhappy and Hardhead all used as fodder. Let’s not kid ourselves Pipes was given one story in MTMTE and proceeded to be in the background and used as a punching bag until he was stomped on and proceeded to continue being used as a punching bag even after with no one even acknowledging his death until 5 years later with the latest issue of LL.

People were sad but no one was accusing Roberts or Barber in his books of introducing characters as fodder because that’s all some of them were. They were present to die.

Look at Simon furmans career where he gets off killing EVERYONE but grimlock and Shockwave no one complains about that at all. If anything it’s become a joke anymore with “well who’s Simon killing in this story?”


I take your points, but still see a lot of this as unnecessary in a series that is supposed to be a crossover. Taking characters from the 'other franchise' in your series just to use them as redshirts is just a bit.. lazy? I dunno. As I said, I'm not angry, just pftfptft about it all.



They needed a big name. Talking about Kup. I got it. Do I like it? Not really but it was necessary.

It wasn’t gonna be a visionary because and I’m sorry NOBODY CARES ABOUT VISIONARIES. Nobody! They needed a big name to get a hook and they did it.

That’s what this series is so notorious for. Starting off with killing kup. And “terrible designs that ruined people’s love for visionaries.” Don’t give me that. It was a failed cartoon and failed toyline.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949609)
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2018 @ 4:29pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:People were sad but no one was accusing Roberts or Barber in his books of introducing characters as fodder because that’s all some of them were. They were present to die.

The main TF books are on-goings. The pace of it is going to fluctuate. And if characters die in it, it's done to advance the story.

This is a 5 issue series. You would expect something to happen with each book. But very little happened with this issue. Hell, we didn't even get Waspinator and look at how the previous book ended! So far we've now lost 2.5 Transformers to characters and a franchise that no one cares about. That's why I'm pissed and it's why others are pissed as well. Pointless deaths to further a pointless story.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949613)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2018 @ 4:34pm CDT
Especially a pointless story that was meant to introduce the visionaries to the hasbroverse yet is about to be rebooted.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949615)
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2018 @ 4:36pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Especially a pointless story that was meant to introduce the visionaries to the hasbroverse yet is about to be rebooted.

Which means I suppose I should get over the death of Kup and drop my fanboy raging.

But fuck it ... this is a shit series. It's down there with Transformers/Avengers.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949618)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2018 @ 4:41pm CDT
Ugh when I said in a different thread that ahm was the worst idw had done, I had completely forgotten that book existed.

Thanks burn -_- I thought I'd managed to erase it from my memory
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949621)
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2018 @ 4:45pm CDT
I made you remember suffering? Excellent ... Image
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949634)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 31st, 2018 @ 4:59pm CDT
Burn wrote:I made you remember suffering? Excellent ... Image

Suffering? If only, Avengers/transformers is banned under the Geneva convention as a form of torture [-(
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949710)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 10:18pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Randomhero wrote:People were sad but no one was accusing Roberts or Barber in his books of introducing characters as fodder because that’s all some of them were. They were present to die.

The main TF books are on-goings. The pace of it is going to fluctuate. And if characters die in it, it's done to advance the story.

This is a 5 issue series. You would expect something to happen with each book. But very little happened with this issue. Hell, we didn't even get Waspinator and look at how the previous book ended! So far we've now lost 2.5 Transformers to characters and a franchise that no one cares about. That's why I'm pissed and it's why others are pissed as well. Pointless deaths to further a pointless story.



Wreckers was a 5 issue story and Ironfist, rotorstorm, pyro, topspin, twin twist died and all their deaths were pointless and not story advancing. The creators even said all those deaths were 100% avoidable and pointless.

Also in wreckers, things didn’t really start kicking off till 3rd to fourth issue, first couple are set ups. Likes this.

Stuff did happen in this book. Wheeljack finalized his plan to stop the talisman and they headed down to stop in. The good visionaries and autobots are together to save the planet. A lot happens.

Again shitting on a book that set to fail by people saying they didn’t want it from the get go.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949711)
Posted by Burn on March 31st, 2018 @ 10:25pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Wreckers was a 5 issue story and Ironfist, rotorstorm, pyro, topspin, twin twist died and all their deaths were pointless and not story advancing. The creators even said all those deaths were 100% avoidable and pointless.

But AGAIN, that was a Transformers centric book.

This is meant to be a crossover, but so far the story has basically revolved around a Visionaries civil war, with guest appearances from Transformers, two of which have been killed and another twisted.

Again shitting on a book that set to fail by people saying they didn’t want it from the get go.

I NEVER said I didn't want it from the get go. I was willing, and gave the book a chance.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949717)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 10:53pm CDT
Burn wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Wreckers was a 5 issue story and Ironfist, rotorstorm, pyro, topspin, twin twist died and all their deaths were pointless and not story advancing. The creators even said all those deaths were 100% avoidable and pointless.

But AGAIN, that was a Transformers centric book.

This is meant to be a crossover, but so far the story has basically revolved around a Visionaries civil war, with guest appearances from Transformers, two of which have been killed and another twisted.

Again shitting on a book that set to fail by people saying they didn’t want it from the get go.

I NEVER said I didn't want it from the get go. I was willing, and gave the book a chance.



Rom vs Transformers killed a Magnus and killed a bunch of space knights. Theres a cross over event. Revolutionaries killed razorclaw and in a way Predaking and Bugley. Again, cross over.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949719)
Posted by Randomhero on March 31st, 2018 @ 10:55pm CDT
And of course it’s very centered around the visionaries because nobody knows any of them and they gotta take the time to introduce these characters. I’m not gonna blame the book and not caring becuase we know it’s all ending in 5 months becuase i think it’s pretty obvious the end wasn’t really planned with this series first created
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949744)
Posted by ZeroWolf on April 1st, 2018 @ 1:58am CDT
That's surely the point though that burns trying to make. Transformers are just fodder in this story designed to push visionaries. It's like this if it were a slogan "come for the transformers, stay for the visionaries" but it hasn't worked out like that. At least not in my opinion anyway.
Re: Mini-Review of IDW Transformers vs Visionaries #4 (1949751)
Posted by Burn on April 1st, 2018 @ 2:30am CDT
What the heck man? I don't like this series, why do I have to justify that to you?

There is literally NOTHING you can say that will change my mind on this book, so why are you so hell bent on proving my OPINION is wrong?

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