More Evidence To New Transformers Cartoon: Voice Casting
Tuesday, December 8th, 2009 10:49PM CST
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Michael Bell (voice of Generation One Prowl and others) mentioned in an interview on Moonbase2 that he has indeed auditioned for a role in a new project, here. Generation One Arcee's voice, Susan Blu, was also mentioned to do casting.
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Posted by Editor on December 9th, 2009 @ 12:00am CST
some spark all site wrote:Michael Bell auditioned for Ratchet, as well as a character under the name "General Fowler"
Sounds like more humans could be involved.
Posted by Rodimus2006 on December 9th, 2009 @ 12:40am CST
This is a rumor about Prowl I hope he will be in TF 3.
Posted by Dclone Soundwave on December 9th, 2009 @ 12:57am CST
Posted by Stockade on December 9th, 2009 @ 5:58am CST
I'm thinking with the technology we have this could be one of a kind cartoon for Transformers...if it's done right...
Posted by Convotron on December 9th, 2009 @ 6:47am CST
I'm very curious about what direction the next cartoon series will take. My one and only hope is that the level of treatment from TFA continues with the next cartoon series.
People may hate TFA, mainly for the art direction, but I think few could rationally argue against the way that the cartoon was on a higher level than a typical cartoon made for kids. Look beyond the art direction of TFA and there are signs of the writers writing for young adults and older as well as the numerous nods and homages to past generations of Transformers that most younger kids just will not get.
Posted by bluecatcinema on December 9th, 2009 @ 8:33am CST
Posted by Badassimus Prime on December 9th, 2009 @ 9:05am CST
http://tformers.com/transformers-first- ... /news.html
Posted by Lord Grimlock on December 9th, 2009 @ 10:25am CST
Posted by Cyberstrike on December 9th, 2009 @ 11:52am CST
Lord Grimlock wrote:i wish robert stack was still alive it would have been awesome to bring him back to do the voice of ultra magnus lets just hope ultra magnus will be in this new project and they can find a good replacement actor to do the voice i just thought of something what if the new cartoon is going to be based on the new video game from activision i bet you the next transformers cartoon is called the war for cybertron
I wished Orson Wells was still alive to do the voices of Unicron and Primus! Oh well a guy can dream...
Posted by Cyberstrike on December 9th, 2009 @ 11:58am CST
Convotron wrote:It's cool to see voice actors who have worked before with Transformers enter the casting!
I'm very curious about what direction the next cartoon series will take. My one and only hope is that the level of treatment from TFA continues with the next cartoon series.
People may hate TFA, mainly for the art direction, but I think few could rationally argue against the way that the cartoon was on a higher level than a typical cartoon made for kids. Look beyond the art direction of TFA and there are signs of the writers writing for young adults and older as well as the numerous nods and homages to past generations of Transformers that most younger kids just will not get.
I didn't mind (and still don't mind) the occasional nod or homage but TFA stretched it to the breaking point where in some episodes it felt like that the nods and homage was what I was watching the show for and that IMHO is not how to make a show good. Sure it was great at first but after awhile it becomes kind of annoying because it feel like the creators are saying: "We can't make this show great on it's own merits so here have this homage to another Transformers series."
Posted by Badassimus Prime on December 9th, 2009 @ 12:02pm CST
Cyberstrike wrote:Lord Grimlock wrote:i wish robert stack was still alive it would have been awesome to bring him back to do the voice of ultra magnus lets just hope ultra magnus will be in this new project and they can find a good replacement actor to do the voice i just thought of something what if the new cartoon is going to be based on the new video game from activision i bet you the next transformers cartoon is called the war for cybertron
I wished Orson Wells was still alive to do the voices of Unicron and Primus! Oh well a guy can dream...
I wish Scatman Crothers and Chris Latta was still alive to voice Jazz and Starscream respectively.
Posted by Nekoman on December 9th, 2009 @ 12:16pm CST
Cyberstrike wrote:I didn't mind (and still don't mind) the occasional nod or homage but TFA stretched it to the breaking point where in some episodes it felt like that the nods and homage was what I was watching the show for and that IMHO is not how to make a show good. Sure it was great at first but after awhile it becomes kind of annoying because it feel like the creators are saying: "We can't make this show great on it's own merits so here have this homage to another Transformers series."
I criticized TFA for this as well and thought I was alone until now.
Posted by Solrac333 on December 9th, 2009 @ 2:04pm CST
Nekoman wrote:Cyberstrike wrote:I didn't mind (and still don't mind) the occasional nod or homage but TFA stretched it to the breaking point where in some episodes it felt like that the nods and homage was what I was watching the show for and that IMHO is not how to make a show good. Sure it was great at first but after awhile it becomes kind of annoying because it feel like the creators are saying: "We can't make this show great on it's own merits so here have this homage to another Transformers series."
I criticized TFA for this as well and thought I was alone until now.
You are not alone. That show was nothing but nod.
Posted by PhantomPrime on December 9th, 2009 @ 3:04pm CST
Posted by Convotron on December 9th, 2009 @ 3:17pm CST
omega666 wrote:Nekoman wrote:Cyberstrike wrote:I didn't mind (and still don't mind) the occasional nod or homage but TFA stretched it to the breaking point where in some episodes it felt like that the nods and homage was what I was watching the show for and that IMHO is not how to make a show good. Sure it was great at first but after awhile it becomes kind of annoying because it feel like the creators are saying: "We can't make this show great on it's own merits so here have this homage to another Transformers series."
I criticized TFA for this as well and thought I was alone until now.
You are not alone. That show was nothing but nod.
I've never heard anyone criticize TFA for being too reliant upon past Transformers references until this thread.
I'm curious as to which episodes you folks think are the worst offenders of homages because I can't think of an episode out of all 3 seasons that made me think "Wow, that was a collage of nods and homages.".
Posted by Megatron Wolf on December 9th, 2009 @ 3:20pm CST
Posted by Skullgrin140 on December 9th, 2009 @ 5:04pm CST
Posted by Cyberstrike on December 10th, 2009 @ 2:37pm CST
Convotron wrote:omega666 wrote:Nekoman wrote:Cyberstrike wrote:I didn't mind (and still don't mind) the occasional nod or homage but TFA stretched it to the breaking point where in some episodes it felt like that the nods and homage was what I was watching the show for and that IMHO is not how to make a show good. Sure it was great at first but after awhile it becomes kind of annoying because it feel like the creators are saying: "We can't make this show great on it's own merits so here have this homage to another Transformers series."
I criticized TFA for this as well and thought I was alone until now.
You are not alone. That show was nothing but nod.
I've never heard anyone criticize TFA for being too reliant upon past Transformers references until this thread.
I'm curious as to which episodes you folks think are the worst offenders of homages because I can't think of an episode out of all 3 seasons that made me think "Wow, that was a collage of nods and homages.".
In particular the "Transwarped" parts 1-3, "Garbage in, Garbage Out" and "Three's a Crowd" were the episodes that pushed it to the breaking point in my opinion.
"Three's a Crowd" was the worst episode of season 3 IMHO and the nods/homages to orginal series were about the only good thing in it and even if the nods/homages in it were kind of lame.
Posted by Just Negare on December 14th, 2009 @ 2:04am CST
Convotron wrote:I've never heard anyone criticize TFA for being too reliant upon past Transformers references until this thread.
I'm curious as to which episodes you folks think are the worst offenders of homages because I can't think of an episode out of all 3 seasons that made me think "Wow, that was a collage of nods and homages.".
I have no issues with "homages" to previous forms of TFs. I'd rather have "homages" then those damn human criminals in 60ish Batman costumes. Like that princess girl, I could have done without being exposed to that.
As for the new TF series rumoured, any word of Frank Welker? That guy seems to have his fingers in the pie of every cartoon out there, and we can't discount his sheer awesomeness in G1.
Posted by Windsweeper on December 20th, 2009 @ 3:25pm CST
I did enjoy Animated for the most part but it was the awful human villains that kept it from rivalling Beast Wars as the best TF show. I can't understand why they would write the Transformers themselves brilliantly and then spoil the series with the likes of Professor Princess. Though I didn't like Wreck Gar or the Constructicons. I just can't take TF's with beards seriously. Only Scourge and Unicron can pull that off.
But I digress. Totally agree with Michael Bell being great in the Legacy of Kain games. A series that needs to be revisited. Would make a fantastic film but only by a director who truely respects the source material like Peter Jackson.
Would love to see Mr. Bell reprise his role as Prowl. In fact it would be nice to see him do so in TF3. Totally loved movie Prowl in the Defiance book. Had a nice G1-esque design too.
I also thought Jeff Bennett did a great performance as Ultra Magnus, very similar to Robert Stack. But then I liked him as Prowl too and I became a fan of him in Gargoyles when he voiced 2 of my favourite characters: Brooklyn and Owen.
Having seen the TFCog dubs of the Japanese Headmasters, it's amazing how a different dub can make or break a cartoon. The original dubs were excrutiating yet TFCog took the same episodes and made them thoroughly enjoyable by redubbing them with a great cast and adding G1 incidental music.
It just goes to show the importance of finding a great cast and how they can elevate a series. Animated, Beast Wars and especially G1, all had amazing casts. Lets hope the new series at least equals them.
Posted by joesaysso on December 28th, 2009 @ 10:18pm CST
Being 30+ years old, G1 is what I grew up on and love. When TFA came out, I made my son aware of it and watched bits and pieces of it never giving it much of a thought. Then I switched to working night shift. On the weekends, I'd get completely bored in the middle of the night. After glancing oover my figure collection, I realized how many of the TFA molds I actually liked and out of boredom, decided to give the show a go. Thanks to the magic of Youtube, I have been able to watch the first 30 episodes in chronological order and here is what I have noticed:
TFA is a much smarter show than the G1 counterpart. Maybe because its modern, but while every cartoon is farfetched to an extreme extent, TFA is much less farfetched than G1. While I realize that it was an impossibility at the time for the original production crew of G1 due to the fact that they were laying the ground work, I get the feeling when watching TFA that the people who worked on that show are actually TF fans.
The animation is way better. Yes again because it is modern. But I remember all of those animation errors from G1, like Prowl having a decepticon logo or Soundwave being all blue and I remember that those really bugged me when I was a kid.
The continuity in TFA is far superior to G1. With G1, each show was a complete seperate entity from another, each its own story. TFA storyline was much more organized. Each episode was a just a chapter in the much bigger story. It gave you the feeling that the show was actually building towards something bigger. New characters were given proper introductions and regular characters often referenced things that had happned in past shows.
Of course, the previously mentioned hommages. In the garbage episode when Wreck Gar got his spark and was voiced by Weird Al, I thought that was pretty cool. I instantly thought of the 86 movie with the Junkions and autobots living it up with Weird Al playing in the background. And when Wreck Gar dropped the line "I dare to be stupid" in TFA, I about fell out of my chair. There was also a Spike cameo in that episode as well. The very first scene of the series was a video clip from G1 when Rachet is watching a "history" video.
I also like the concept of the Autobot Elite Guard.
I like how the toys actually look like their tv counterparts. I'm not sure if any show and its corresponding toy line has matched as well as TFA.
And of course, the voice acting was top notch, with the voices of Megatron, Prowl, Magnus, and Screamer being the best. Of course, the latter two were hommages to their G1 counter parts along with Grimlock, Blurr, Omega Supreme, Jazz, and maybe others.
Admittedly, there are plenty of things to not like about it too. The art style and OP not being the high commander and what they did with certain characters like Soundwave and the speechless dinobots. But people tend to focus on the negatives which prevent them from actually seeing that the powers that be did a pretty good job with TFA. While it won't replace G1, I am looking forward to watching the rest of the episodes.
Posted by chuuzetsu on December 28th, 2009 @ 11:03pm CST
Posted by joesaysso on December 29th, 2009 @ 1:34am CST
Posted by Just Negare on December 30th, 2009 @ 6:50pm CST
Although, I have to admit, I really liked the Shockwave toy and am damn annoyed it never showed up on NZL shelves.