More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

Tuesday, January 24th, 2017 5:12pm CST

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We have some additional images of the upcoming redeco of the first Beast Wars Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece, in his movie colours as Supreme Commander Beast Convoy! The photos are part of the Figure King magazine collage, courtesy of a scan by Loopaza Mega Store on Facebook - check them out mirrored below, as you notice that the only actual new image is number 4, showing off how to store the mutant mask and other accessories on his back, with the blue tab seen in images previously.

Transformers News: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version)

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Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1854312)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 24th, 2017 @ 6:51pm CST
Notice how these pics show how to store the accessories on the Weapon Rack that attaches to his back.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1854315)
Posted by Va'al on January 24th, 2017 @ 7:05pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Notice how these pics show how to store the accessories on the Weapon Rack that attaches to his back.


I noticed.

the only actual new image is number 4, showing off how to store the mutant mask and other accessories on his back, with the blue tab seen in images previously.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1855006)
Posted by VioMeTriX on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:00pm CST
that tab on his back was originally placed there for Generations Rattrap, they just found another stupid use for it
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1855009)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:04pm CST
VioMeTriX wrote:that tab on his back was originally placed there for Generations Rattrap,
Officially? There was no advertisement for the peg in any of MP-32's instructions or packaged feature pics.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1855124)
Posted by VioMeTriX on January 27th, 2017 @ 10:36am CST
i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1855127)
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2017 @ 10:51am CST
VioMeTriX wrote:i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in

So does anything with a peg hole that size. Plus rattrap doesnt even work well sicne that peg is only on onf of his arms, making him off centre. It wasnt made for him, thats just a theory fans came up with because they were puzzled and grasping for straws.

But now we actually know what its for, its for this extra gear. It was that all along. What happened is that Takara had 2 releases in mind but wanted to use the same mold for cost purposes.

Its like Power Ranger megazord toys, many are released with ports that appear useless and then a year later you realize its to go with a new toy that just got released.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1855252)
Posted by Sabrblade on January 27th, 2017 @ 5:58pm CST
A thought just occurred to me. If Takara were to eventually make a Masterpiece version of Burning Convoy from the mold and give a letter to one of the mold's two ID numbers, I'd imagine that they would choose to give "MP-38" a letter (like "MP-38B") instead of "MP-32", since it was this Legendary Supreme Commander version of the character who turned into Burning Convoy in the movie.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857076)
Posted by Emerje on February 4th, 2017 @ 2:05am CST
william-james88 wrote:
VioMeTriX wrote:i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in

So does anything with a peg hole that size. Plus rattrap doesnt even work well sicne that peg is only on onf of his arms, making him off centre. It wasnt made for him, thats just a theory fans came up with because they were puzzled and grasping for straws.


But you want him to be offset otherwise he wouldn't be able to see over Primal's shoulders.

But now we actually know what its for, its for this extra gear. It was that all along. What happened is that Takara had 2 releases in mind but wanted to use the same mold for cost purposes.

I'm not entirely sold on that being the original purpose. The original figure could have used weapon storage as well so why not include it then if that was the original purpose? Why use a blatantly obvious 5mm peg and require an extra part rather than better integrating the weapon storage as a feature of the figure like we've seen on other MPs? For that matter he still has that port on his arm that hasn't been officially explained (though the speculation is probably accurate) and probably wont be at this point, but it goes to show that Takara Tomy built things into the figure that they weren't sure how to utilize.

Emerje
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857098)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2017 @ 7:01am CST
Emerje wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
VioMeTriX wrote:i dont know if it was official or an abandoned gimmick, but rattrap does peg in

So does anything with a peg hole that size. Plus rattrap doesnt even work well sicne that peg is only on onf of his arms, making him off centre. It wasnt made for him, thats just a theory fans came up with because they were puzzled and grasping for straws.


But you want him to be offset otherwise he wouldn't be able to see over Primal's shoulders.
Looking over Primal's shoulder isn't what Rattrap did whenever he rode on Primal's robot mode back as a flying passenger. He instead always kept to the middle of Primal's back, looking over the backpack kibble located directly behind Primal's head, far above Primal's shoulders.

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Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857180)
Posted by Emerje on February 4th, 2017 @ 3:58pm CST
My mistake, though I don't think being just a few millimeters offset changes much.

Emerje
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857187)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2017 @ 5:24pm CST
I gotta wonder, how many here who already got MP-32 feel compelled enough to double dip on this movie version?

I myself am contemplating double dipping on this but am not yet fully committed to it. My reasons for even considering double dipping on are A) to further show my support for Beast Era MPs, and B) because it's a figure of another onscreen rendition of the character, based on this:

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And is a close enough match to his RobotMasters appearance:

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But at the moment, I've yet to feel that those are reason enough to get a whole other MP of Primal in a body and form that aren't quite drastically different enough from MP-32, and fictionally-speaking, it technically is still the same body and form as MP-32, just with artistic liberties utilized to better reflect the original toy's deco.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857188)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 4th, 2017 @ 5:35pm CST
If you want my advice, consider the possibility of MP Lio Convoy (he was one of options of the poll that yielded Star Saber), possible redecos, and MP Burning Convoy.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857189)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 4th, 2017 @ 5:40pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If you want my advice, consider the possibility of MP Lio Convoy (he was one of options of the poll that yielded Star Saber), possible redecos, and MP Burning Convoy.
Burning Convoy is what I was hoping for as the first reuse of the MP-32 mold. Had we gotten that instead of this, I'd be all over that Infernape.

But since it isn't, I'm not as inclined towards double-dipping on this figure as I would be for Burning Convoy.

And, to be frank, I'm starting to not expect there to be that many more BW MPs to come in the near future, with Cheetus and maybe one redeco of that mold being the end of it for the time being.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857205)
Posted by william-james88 on February 4th, 2017 @ 7:46pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:But at the moment, I've yet to feel that those are reason enough to get a whole other MP of Primal in a body and form that aren't quite drastically different enough from MP-32, and fictionally-speaking, it technically is still the same body and form as MP-32, just with artistic liberties utilized to better reflect the original toy's deco.

Agreed. I am not double dipping. However, I might have been inclined to get this one instead of the previous release if only because I really like the toy accurate deco in robot mode (the nostalgia is intoxicating) and I feel I am getting more for my money with the mask and the accessory rack which makes use of the peg on his back.

But since I already got one, I aint getting the other (unless a great deal comes along like getting him for $40 or something).
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857572)
Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 1:33am CST
I ordered MP-38 as soon as the pre-orders opened on AmiAmi. I don't have any problem double dipping on characters when they look different enough. I've got G2 Sideswipe and Bumblebee and "blue" Streak, as long as the changes are more extensive than, say, animated Red Alert I'm fine with buying the character again new.

Emerje
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857574)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 7th, 2017 @ 1:39am CST
Emerje wrote:I ordered MP-38 as soon as the pre-orders opened on AmiAmi. I don't have any problem double dipping on characters when they look different enough. I've got G2 Sideswipe and Bumblebee and "blue" Streak, as long as the changes are more extensive than, say, animated Red Alert I'm fine with buying the character again new.
I'm the same. But in this case, MP-38 doesn't look as different from MP-32 to me as the G2 versions of Sideswipe and Bumblebee look from their G1 versions.

Not helping this is that, whereas the G2 versions are fictionally new forms for the two, MP-38's look is fictionally the exact same body and form as MP-32's form.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857578)
Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 2:04am CST
For me the fiction doesn't play a part in my decision, I just like having a version that looks different from MP-32. I'll probably have MP-38 displayed with the full face plate to closer match the original toy. Just wish he came with a new gorilla face option that matched the original toy, too.

Emerje
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857579)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 7th, 2017 @ 2:18am CST
Emerje wrote:For me the fiction doesn't play a part in my decision, I just like having a version that looks different from MP-32. I'll probably have MP-38 displayed with the full face plate to closer match the original toy. Just wish he came with a new gorilla face option that matched the original toy, too.

Emerje
The angry gorilla face could serve a close enough approximation of the toy's angry gorilla face.
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857583)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 7th, 2017 @ 2:49am CST
Emerje wrote:For me the fiction doesn't play a part in my decision, I just like having a version that looks different from MP-32. I'll probably have MP-38 displayed with the full face plate to closer match the original toy. Just wish he came with a new gorilla face option that matched the original toy, too.

Emerje


So, in other words, you'll have a show-accurate version, plus a "toy-accurate" version that's actually anime-accurate?
Re: More Images of Transformers Masterpiece MP-38 Beast Wars Convoy (Supreme Commander Version) (1857610)
Posted by Emerje on February 7th, 2017 @ 8:03am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Emerje wrote:For me the fiction doesn't play a part in my decision, I just like having a version that looks different from MP-32. I'll probably have MP-38 displayed with the full face plate to closer match the original toy. Just wish he came with a new gorilla face option that matched the original toy, too.

Emerje


So, in other words, you'll have a show-accurate version, plus a "toy-accurate" version that's actually anime-accurate?

Bingo! Though I consider the anime accuracy to be secondary to the toy accuracy.

I'll be entirely honest here, I'm actually more excited about 38 over 32, I'm just a sucker for updates of older figures. For G1 I can go either way, toy or cartoon accurate, but for most post-G1 lines I lean more towards toy updates since many of them are already pretty cartoon accurate (except for Beast Machines, would definitely prefer cartoon accuracy there). Beast Wars season 1 characters are really the only ones that are drastically different between toy and cartoon. BWII and Neo I'd probably want toy updates, I don't have any real love for the cartoony look, though I suppose they could maybe just include swapable beast heads.

Emerje

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