More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype

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TFsource.com just let us know that 3rd party company iGear toys has just posted some new photos of Masterpiece Rodimus Convoy in their Facebook galleries. We have mirrored some of the images below for your convenience in case you don't use Facebook.

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Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1105806)
Posted by LiKwid on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:34am CDT

I'm not digging the Bell bottoms..not one bit at all....

Still too early to pass total judgement though..Everyone take a breath

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Posted by Seibertron on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:36am CDT

LiKwid wrote:I'm not digging the Bell bottoms..not one bit at all....

Still too early to pass total judgement though..Everyone take a breath

I think I'm still holding it but my opinion hasn't changed from "meh" yet. this might be the first prototype masterpiece that I've been disappointed with so far.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1105811)
Posted by Samurai Bludgeon on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:40am CDT

Looking at that it dont seem like its hot rod and rodiums prime all in one... that robot mode dont really look capable of a stand-alone hot rod... would be nice if it did-probably the only reason I would get this is if it did...otherwise Im not really feeling it. Too bad too cuz I lvoe new stuff but the cost here just isnt gonna be worth it to me (rather gogo predaking)

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Posted by Bumblevivisector on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:50am CDT

It looks to me like the face can also revolve, ala the MP seekers, meaning there's probably a Hot Rod mug on the other side. The hood/chest looks like it can fold forward/down too, implying not only matrix storage (too bad no one on the cartoon or comics could agree just how his chest opened), but also engine block storage so the cab can become Hot Rod's vehicle mode too, if the canopy slides back to make room for it. I'm guessing that's the explanation for the spoiler too: it should be all the way forward in that slot, but is mistransformed into Hot Rod configuration, leaving it too concealed.

Due partly to the odd nature of G1 RP's robot mode, no TF deserved the MP treatment more than the chosen one. And I may be the only one to say this, but to me, Op seemed so much greater in hindsight that he should've tried harder to stay dead and let Rodimus fulfill the role of leader of the free-universe. And I think the recent release of MP DeadMaster--I mean "Sleep Mode" Optimus might back me up on this.

And I'll always love his unique alt-mode too, probably the only TF RV we'll ever get unless Crossovers makes a deal with Ben 10 to give us Rustbucket-former.

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Posted by DavidT on July 30th, 2010 @ 12:56am CDT

yeah, it kinda looks like the helmet can open and the face can rotate or something. Looks like at the back of his neck there may be a hinge that the helmet pivots open and close... I wouldn't count out the idea of him being able to be Hot Rod also...

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Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1105824)
Posted by kirbenvost on July 30th, 2010 @ 1:17am CDT

I hope you're right, because I'd really love to be able to display an MP Hot Rod. Rodimus Prime will be cool, but unfortunately a little 'meh' in comparison.

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Posted by Botswanky on July 30th, 2010 @ 1:29am CDT

Not a big fan of Rodimus, but he makes for a nice toy robot. Might even consider buying him, especially since I really don't like Grimlock or want the Grimlock MP figure.

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Posted by Dead Metal on July 30th, 2010 @ 2:51am CDT

He looks meh, He's oddly tiny I guess the robot-mode is voyager sized.

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Posted by Mykltron on July 30th, 2010 @ 2:51am CDT

My my, isn't he skinny?

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Posted by Prime Riblet on July 30th, 2010 @ 2:56am CDT

I honestly don't have any desire to own this. I have no quibbles with it at all, but Rodimus is not my cup of tea at all. He has one of my least favorite alt modes of all time, and his character is not my favorite either. Hot Rod would be a different story, but Rodimus Prime just blows, IMO.
I will likely get blasted for having that opinion, but that is the way I feel about it.

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Posted by Autobot032 on July 30th, 2010 @ 3:09am CDT

Well, I'm not sure what to think here. They got the face right, they got the vehicle mode right, but something just seems off about it. He's a tad too scrawny, that's one of the problems, but I just can't put my finger on it. Something's off.

I do think he'll be capable of Hot Rod's look though. There's too much to fold and unfold for it to be a simple Rodimus Prime figure.

I am impressed with one thing, something I didn't think they'd be able to pull off...his arm transformation. It looks like it pivots around like Hot Rod's did in the movie, where the fenders spin 180 to create the arms.

If that's the case, then they've truly impressed me, because that's never been accomplished before.

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Posted by 009* on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:08am CDT

Rodimus look a little scrawny there. Hope he's the same size as Optimus though.

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Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:24am CDT

I'm apparently in a minority here, but I think he looks awesome! I can't wait to see a painted version. He looks like he should look. I don't think he's "too skinny." I also don't see where he's only the size of a voyager. There's nothing to compare size against, so my guess is the figure is larger than a voyager. As for the bell bottom comment, that's what he looks like. HIs legs aways flared out at the bottom. If I really dig deep enough to criticize the look, I think his face kinda looks like John Kerry. :grin:

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Posted by Mykltron on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:34am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I'm apparently in a minority here, but I think he looks awesome! I can't wait to see a painted version. He looks like he should look. I don't think he's "too skinny." I also don't see where he's only the size of a voyager. There's nothing to compare size against, so my guess is the figure is larger than a voyager. As for the bell bottom comment, that's what he looks like. HIs legs aways flared out at the bottom. If I really dig deep enough to criticize the look, I think his face kinda looks like John Kerry.

I was thinking Ted Danson but you're closer to the mark!

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1105878)
Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 4:36am CDT

It seems like I'm one of the few who like the look of MP Rodimus. The more I look at the bot mode, the more I like it. I really like how it looks like the designer(s) took G1 Rodimus' animation model and translated it as a functional transforming toy. The sculpted detail is wonderful, especially on the legs, which in the cartoon look woefully simplistic. The prototype has a regal and statuesque appearance in bot mode, which I like.

As far as the "too scrawny" situation with the figure...I don't know, I always saw the animation model of Rodimus Prime being a taller and proportionally skinnier version of Hot Rod so the proportions of MP Rodimus look good to me. Now, I'll admit that it's been a few years since I watched the post movie seasons of the cartoon so my memory may be rusty but I think a lankier look to Rodimus seems right.

I think something that may be putting some people off or at least leaving them with a neutral impression of the toy is that MP Rodimus is neither spot on accurate to the animation model nor is it a radically changed character design. It's a hybrid that people don't expect to see as a Masterpiece figure. Maybe that's what's giving some people a lukewarm feeling of the figure.

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Posted by Botswanky on July 30th, 2010 @ 5:24am CDT

"The prototype has a regal and statuesque appearance in bot mode, which I like."

Very well put.

BTW, Anyone have a mint condition Botcon Black light Clench Poster they want to sell?

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Posted by Jesterhead on July 30th, 2010 @ 5:47am CDT

I personally love the flaming space winnebago alt mode. But I'm luke warm on the toy. They got the alt mode, they got the robot mode. I think I might just not be a fan of the base/trailer. I'll have to wait to see the exact size and paint of the toy before I make a final judgment. Good or bad, I'm excited to see a painted prototype!

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Posted by Jazz-1982 on July 30th, 2010 @ 5:54am CDT

I think he looks fantastic. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but how many Transformers are?
I'm glad he doesn't look too big as I preferred Grimlock and the seekers heights

It's G1 accurate except with what looks like excellent mobility. I'm really looking forward to this. If it's Hot Rod and Rodimus together then great but if it's not, this guy is still mine as soon as the Japanese pre-order is up.

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Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 30th, 2010 @ 5:56am CDT

Why the long face, Rodimus? Being leader isn't that bad is it?

Actually, these pictures make me think he *can* turn into Rodimus. The back setup suggests a fully formed Roddie vehicle mode, the face seems to rotate and even the gun looks like it cxan transform.

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Posted by Tigertrack on July 30th, 2010 @ 6:07am CDT

I have reservations.

For those that argued the MP Grimlock was WAY too similar in transformation and actual likeness to his G1-toy self, I see the toy, at least right now in that light.

I really hope they used all the joints and such on the robot, because they did nothing to upgrade the trailer from the G1 version. Unfolds.

So, the robot. If the creators missed the boat here, and it looks like they might have, it SHOULD have two modes, Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. At this time, it looks like it does not which we be VERY disappointing to me anyway.

Other than some new joints and articulation how would this really be considered an MP? Yes, I hear it has a face changing gimmick from young to old, but the face is not the only thing that makes Hot Rod.

I am very, very reserved on my feelings for this toy. I enjoy MP's and the Hot Rod/Rodimus character so I am almost 100% sure that it will find space on my shelf, but I was really hoping for more, again from what we can see, but maybe my thoughts are unrealistic based on engineering possibilities and cost.

More information please.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1105943)
Posted by DTR69 on July 30th, 2010 @ 6:46am CDT

LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

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Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 30th, 2010 @ 6:53am CDT

DTR69 wrote:LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!! :grin:

Sorry, anytime I see all caps it makes me think someone is yelling in frustration. I'll be very interested to see more pictures and see if he turns out to be a triple/quad changer.

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Posted by Amelie on July 30th, 2010 @ 6:58am CDT

And, like all Masterpiece items - it's ugly. Crap face, ugly legs - I'd rather add ball joints to G1 Rodimus' legs and arms and leave it at that.

I was looking forward to a G1 esq Rodimus, because I loved him as a kid - but this falls far short of expectations. You could do better with the joints from a model Gundam kit and a regular G1 Rodimus.

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Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 7:00am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
DTR69 wrote:LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!!

Sorry, anytime I see all caps it makes me think someone is yelling in frustration. I'll be very interested to see more pictures and see if he turns out to be a triple/quad changer.

Maybe he suffers from the typing equivalent of Van Horton's Syndrome.

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Posted by ang3l3s on July 30th, 2010 @ 7:06am CDT

tigertracks 24 wrote:I have reservations.

For those that argued the MP Grimlock was WAY too similar in transformation and actual likeness to his G1-toy self, I see the toy, at least right now in that light.

I really hope they used all the joints and such on the robot, because they did nothing to upgrade the trailer from the G1 version. Unfolds.

So, the robot. If the creators missed the boat here, and it looks like they might have, it SHOULD have two modes, Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. At this time, it looks like it does not which we be VERY disappointing to me anyway.

Other than some new joints and articulation how would this really be considered an MP? Yes, I hear it has a face changing gimmick from young to old, but the face is not the only thing that makes Hot Rod.

I am very, very reserved on my feelings for this toy. I enjoy MP's and the Hot Rod/Rodimus character so I am almost 100% sure that it will find space on my shelf, but I was really hoping for more, again from what we can see, but maybe my thoughts are unrealistic based on engineering possibilities and cost.

More information please.

i can't agree with you more, if grimlock wasn't who he was and that i didn't collect masterpieces i would not have got him, he is practically g1 grim with articulation and this rodimus is looking the same as well. Fansproject is looking more appealing so far but i will buy this guy anyways cause it's a masterpiece....sigh, disappointed!!!

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Posted by DTR69 on July 30th, 2010 @ 7:22am CDT

ang3l3s wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:I have reservations.

For those that argued the MP Grimlock was WAY too similar in transformation and actual likeness to his G1-toy self, I see the toy, at least right now in that light.

I really hope they used all the joints and such on the robot, because they did nothing to upgrade the trailer from the G1 version. Unfolds.

So, the robot. If the creators missed the boat here, and it looks like they might have, it SHOULD have two modes, Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime. At this time, it looks like it does not which we be VERY disappointing to me anyway.

Other than some new joints and articulation how would this really be considered an MP? Yes, I hear it has a face changing gimmick from young to old, but the face is not the only thing that makes Hot Rod.

I am very, very reserved on my feelings for this toy. I enjoy MP's and the Hot Rod/Rodimus character so I am almost 100% sure that it will find space on my shelf, but I was really hoping for more, again from what we can see, but maybe my thoughts are unrealistic based on engineering possibilities and cost.

More information please.

i can't agree with you more, if grimlock wasn't who he was and that i didn't collect masterpieces i would not have got him, he is practically g1 grim with articulation and this rodimus is looking the same as well. Fansproject is looking more appealing so far but i will buy this guy anyways cause it's a masterpiece....sigh, disappointed!!!

I second that. The thing is though, that there would be no reason to make grimlock more complicated. I still think that the kibble should of been hidden, I know the kibble was in the cartoon but it could of been a transformation option. It's also the same with Rodimus, the G1 toy just needed some articulation and the odd tweek. G1 starscream has been begging for a complete overhaul, same with megatron and prime. So when I hear of an MP coming up I always hope it's one that had a poor G1 robot mode. BEcuase Rodimus is such an easy upgrade from G1 to MP they have to put some extra enginuity such as Hot Rod to Rodimus, otherwise it is just a cop out.

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Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 7:23am CDT

So people who want a MP Rodimus accurate to the G1 toy are disappointed and people who want a MP Rodimus that offers a significant deviation from the G1 toy are disappointed.

I wonder how interesting it would be if TakaraTomy chose to use the New Rodimus design for the next MP toy. I can imagine the mixture of confusion and fanrage from such a scenario!

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Posted by Amelie on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:00am CDT

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Why the long face, Rodimus?

It's been bugging me, and now I finally know.

Rodimus is Chevy Chase.

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Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:01am CDT

Amelie wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Why the long face, Rodimus?

It's been bugging me, and now I finally know.

Rodimus is Chevy Chase.

I still see more of John Kerry

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Posted by Amelie on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:03am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I still see more of John Kerry

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Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:21am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:I still see more of John Kerry

The horror...the horror...

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Posted by fenrir72 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:29am CDT

MP Megatron was initially planned to incorporate a chamber for the "Star of Cybertron" and come with the Key to Vector Sigma. But it wasn't implemented.

What would be great is if they implement a feature wherein Rodimus can fit MP Convoy's Matrix of Leadership into him. :APPLAUSE:

So there'd be some form of continuity in the series.

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Posted by Seibertron on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:34am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
DTR69 wrote:LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!!

Sorry, anytime I see all caps it makes me think someone is yelling in frustration. I'll be very interested to see more pictures and see if he turns out to be a triple/quad changer.

Maybe he was yelling in frustration. That's kind of how I feel about this toy at the moment. I'll reserve final judgement until we learn definitely whether or not it has a Hot Rod mode as well as the paint job scheme which at this point would have to be truly amazing and something unique/special in order to wow me.

I guess I'm really surprised that the flames aren't molded into his chest and trailer. Why would this be? The only reason i can think of is if they were going to reuse this mold for something else later down the road. However, this IS Rodimus Prime so I don't know how you reuse this mold.

Very lackluster and unexciting. I wasn't really that thrilled with Masterpiece Grimlock (though that was partially because of the insane and unnecessary initial markup in his price that was obviously unjustified considering his TRU price being the same as Starscream and Skywarp) but I feel like even that toy was leaps and bounds better than what I'm seeing here with MP Roddy.

Show us the gimmicks! That's got to be what makes this toy cool, right?

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Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:37am CDT

Seibertron wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
DTR69 wrote:LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!!

Sorry, anytime I see all caps it makes me think someone is yelling in frustration. I'll be very interested to see more pictures and see if he turns out to be a triple/quad changer.

Maybe he was yelling in frustration. That's kind of how I feel about this toy at the moment. I'll reserve final judgement until we learn definitely whether or not it has a Hot Rod mode as well as the paint job scheme which at this point would have to be truly amazing and something unique/special in order to wow me.

I guess I'm really surprised that the flames aren't molded into his chest and trailer. Why would this be? The only reason i can think of is if they were going to reuse this mold for something else later down the road. However, this IS Rodimus Prime so I don't know how you reuse this mold.

Very lackluster and unexciting. I wasn't really that thrilled with Masterpiece Grimlock (though that was partially because of the insane and unnecessary initial markup in his price that was obviously unjustified considering his TRU price being the same as Starscream and Skywarp) but I feel like even that toy was leaps and bounds better than what I'm seeing here with MP Roddy.

Show us the gimmicks! That's got to be what makes this toy cool, right?

I can understand everyone's frustration. I think it's really too early to hand out a "This thing sucks" judgement(not saying you are). It hasn't been officially announced. MP Starscream changed quite a bit between prototype and final product. Maybe they will mold the flames, maybe not.

I can't help it though, I'm a Rodimus/Hot Rod whore. They could paint a turd red and orange and put a spoiler on it and I'd probably think it's awesome :grin:

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Posted by DTR69 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:39am CDT

fenrir72 wrote:MP Megatron was initially planned to incorporate a chamber for the "Star of Cybertron" and come with the Key to Vector Sigma. But it wasn't implemented.

What would be great is if they implement a feature wherein Rodimus can fit MP Convoy's Matrix of Leadership into him. So there'd be some form of continuity in the series.

I was hoping he would have a chest compartment too. They don't have to include the matrix, as most of us have MP Convoy, so it would be passed on from him. And thos MP megatron features, never made it too the production prototype. I have to admit, some of them were pretty kool. The Megatron sketches were amazing, he looked so good, even the face was spot on, if anything that should of made it to the final version.

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Posted by DTR69 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:43am CDT

Seibertron wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
DTR69 wrote:LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!!

Sorry, anytime I see all caps it makes me think someone is yelling in frustration. I'll be very interested to see more pictures and see if he turns out to be a triple/quad changer.

Maybe he was yelling in frustration. That's kind of how I feel about this toy at the moment. I'll reserve final judgement until we learn definitely whether or not it has a Hot Rod mode as well as the paint job scheme which at this point would have to be truly amazing and something unique/special in order to wow me.

I guess I'm really surprised that the flames aren't molded into his chest and trailer. Why would this be? The only reason i can think of is if they were going to reuse this mold for something else later down the road. However, this IS Rodimus Prime so I don't know how you reuse this mold.

Very lackluster and unexciting. I wasn't really that thrilled with Masterpiece Grimlock (though that was partially because of the insane and unnecessary initial markup in his price that was obviously unjustified considering his TRU price being the same as Starscream and Skywarp) but I feel like even that toy was leaps and bounds better than what I'm seeing here with MP Roddy.

Show us the gimmicks! That's got to be what makes this toy cool, right?

The flames won't be molded on as it's a paint job, and not every MP is going to be repainted into another character, they maybe repainted into different versions, but some characters are strictly that chracter, MEgatron can't be repinted and neither can grimlock, he can never be trypticon, and rodimus is rodimus. Becuase they repaint so much we expect it, but some molds are too unique to beable to adopt another persona, and I don't think hasbro or Takara are that cheap.

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Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:43am CDT

From the lukewarm response MP Rodimus has received so far, I must wonder:

What do my fellow Seibertronians expect from the MP line of products?

I ask this because it seems like there's little cohesiveness with respect to what people are disliking about the prototype. Normally, criticism of products show a common thread that most agree on but so far, people have been saying somewhat simply and broadly that they expected something more.

As I understand it, the Masterpiece line was conceived as a collector oriented product line by TakaraTomy that focused on G1 characters/toys. Obviously that's changed with MP movie Starscream but the basic premise behind the line seems to be the same and the prototype of MP Rodimus seems to fit the guidelines of the MP line just fine.

Is the extremely high projected price of $200 the significant factor here in the reception? If it was $150 or less, would people have a different view of the prototype?

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Posted by Kibble on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:44am CDT

More Meh-sterpiece than Masterpiece?
Not more than meh to the eye? (or is it 'teh')
Rodi-meh Prime?

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106029)
Posted by REMINATOR on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:48am CDT

This is not MP Rodimus but MP John Kerry!! :lol:

I totally agree with the face. The minute I saw the face, I said this face looks like some politicians dude, hehee.

Ok, onto the prototype. Indeed, he looks skinny and scrawny. The side view is even worst. I just wish he was a little bit massive. Also, he looks short. Hopefully, he's the same height as either Grimlock or the seekers. Despite, the nagativism, I will definitely get MP RPrime. Personally, I still think he looks better than MP Seekers, can't stand that samurai hip kibble! As for the bottom part, it's okay and will be fine once it is painted. I assume his small chest cavity won't be having the same Matrix as Prime/Magnus since it look smaller. Last but not least, I hope he can stand on his own and not flimsy. I don't like that supporting rod on his back. This remind me of MP seekers.

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Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:53am CDT

REMINATOR wrote:This is not MP Rodimus but MP John Kerry!!
I totally agree with the face. The minute I saw the face, I said this face looks like some politicians dude, hehee.

Ok, onto the prototype. Indeed, he looks skinny and scrawny. The side view is even worst. I just wish he was a little bit massive. Also, he looks short. Hopefully, he's the same height as either Grimlock or the seekers. Despite, the nagativism, I will definitely get MP RPrime. Personally, I still think he looks better than MP Seekers, can't stand that samurai hip kibble! As for the bottom part, it's okay and will be fine once it is painted. I assume his small chest cavity won't be having the same Matrix as Prime/Magnus since it look smaller. Last but not least, I hope he can stand on his own and not flimsy. I don't like that supporting rod on his back. This remind me of MP seekers.

my guess is that rod is there to keep him standing if the case is bumped, and also, since it's a prototype, it probably isn't the most stable of materials.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106040)
Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 8:59am CDT

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:my guess is that rod is there to keep him standing if the case is bumped, and also, since it's a prototype, it probably isn't the most stable of materials.

My thoughts exactly. It's only a prototype so it may not have completely working joints so it may not be able to be posed in a way to provide a stability so the display stand is there to prop it up.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106042)
Posted by Kibble on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:00am CDT

Convotron wrote:Is the extremely high projected price of $200 the significant factor here in the reception? If it was $150 or less, would people have a different view of the prototype?

For me, more or less this...except even $150 is too much. I might be more impressed or excited if it were around the $100 range, which I suppose is still possible, but probably highly unlikely. I'm looking at this fig as a $150+ piece.

I, too, was underwhelmed with Grimlock. He's a plenty decent figure, but at nearly $150, I'm going to have higher expectations...and honestly, he's probably the least impressive design of the whole MP line to date. Don't get me wrong, he looks great, spot on accuracy, but if you up the anti that much, I'm going to expect more. Nothing about the fig really screamed a near 50% cost increase to me.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106045)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:10am CDT

The problem is Rodimus' model doesn't allow for a much better transformation scheme while remaining accurate. It's the same sort of problem Grimlock had. Except in Roddy's case his alt. mode is totally dependant on that trailer covering up his sleek robot form.

BUT if he turns into Hot Rod, I'll be all over this. Because a G1 accurate Hot Rod robot mode with a G1 accurate vehicle mode for one of my favorite all time TFs would make this into a must buy.

Albeit an overly expencive must buy.

Edit: And they could totally repaint this. Primus anyone? Black Rodimus? Crystal Clear Rodimus? And those are just the ones based on past toys.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106053)
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:16am CDT

Gauntlet101010 wrote:The problem is Rodimus' model doesn't allow for a much better transformation scheme while remaining accurate. It's the same sort of problem Grimlock had. Except in Roddy's case his alt. mode is totally dependant on that trailer covering up his sleek robot form.

BUT if he turns into Hot Rod, I'll be all over this. Because a G1 accurate Hot Rod robot mode with a G1 accurate vehicle mode for one of my favorite all time TFs would make this into a must buy.

Albeit an overly expencive must buy.

Edit: And they could totally repaint this. Primus anyone? Black Rodimus? Crystal Clear Rodimus? And those are just the ones based on past toys.

I would definitely pick up a black repaint or crystal Rodimus. but also, like I said before.. Rodimus/Hot Rod whore

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106063)
Posted by REMINATOR on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:20am CDT

I didn't have much issue with MP Grimlock price since his dino mode is kind of big. Also, his G1 toys was pretty much accurate to the cartoon, so I didn't expect much with the MP line.

MP Rodimus on the hand is a little bit different. Judging from the prototype, his price should somewhere between 100 to 140. He got a small robot and simple trailer. If it's in that BBTS 199 assumption price, I expect a Hot Rod/Rodimus capability transformation. Otherwise, it would be a disappointment. As for the supporting rod, I am hoping it's for the purpose of people bumping/prototype material.

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Posted by Trikeboy on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:21am CDT

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Edit: And they could totally repaint this. Primus anyone? Black Rodimus? Crystal Clear Rodimus? And those are just the ones based on past toys.

You could also have Hate Plague Rodimus and Comic Rodimus.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106066)
Posted by stangatron on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:23am CDT

Why can they just make a Jazz or a devastator already. It would be so awesome to have a seven series release for dev. one can only dream

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106070)
Posted by Convotron on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:29am CDT

stangatron wrote:Why can they just make a Jazz or a devastator already. It would be so awesome to have a seven series release for dev. one can only dream

The reason is simple: The MP line is by TakaraTomy and it's a product line aimed at Japanese TF collectors. I think Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Convoy is more of a prominent character to Japanese fans than Jazz/Meister and Devastator/Devastor. Therefore, it makes more sense for TT to make MP Rodimus before MP Meister or MP Devastor.

Re: More pics of Masterpiece Rodimus Prime / Convoy prototype (1106073)
Posted by kirbenvost on July 30th, 2010 @ 9:40am CDT

Autobot032 wrote:I do think he'll be capable of Hot Rod's look though. There's too much to fold and unfold for it to be a simple Rodimus Prime figure.

I am impressed with one thing, something I didn't think they'd be able to pull off...his arm transformation. It looks like it pivots around like Hot Rod's did in the movie, where the fenders spin 180 to create the arms.

If that's the case, then they've truly impressed me, because that's never been accomplished before.

I hope you're right about a Hot Rod mode, I really do. That would be truly impressive. What do you mean about the arms? It looks fairly simple to me, the 'vents' are probably just covered by the front of the car which folds up on his back.

Optimus Rigas wrote:"The prototype has a regal and statuesque appearance in bot mode, which I like."

Very well put.

Indeed.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Actually, these pictures make me think he *can* turn into Rodimus. The back setup suggests a fully formed Roddie vehicle mode, the face seems to rotate and even the gun looks like it cxan transform.

Hmm...yes, all those appear to be true...all this speculation is making me excited again. I really hope it's true. Maybe that's the main gimmick they're waiting to reveal.

Seibertron wrote:
I guess I'm really surprised that the flames aren't molded into his chest and trailer.

I'm suprised too. I would've thought that would make a lot of sense. Maybe it's because this is still an early prototype?

Edit: Speculation on a Hot Rod mode - I was looking closely at both the vehicle mode and close up view of the back of the figure, and noticed a few things (some mentioned before):

-Obviously lots of panels on the back of the bot
-The part where the spoiler is attached looks very much like the back of Hot Rod's car mode
-Helmet hinge suggesting it folds up for a rotating face
-Transforming gun
-Legs look almost as though there's a large, armor-type panel covering a smaller leg underneath (though his feet would be HUGE in comparison)
-Windshield part on the back appears longer than that of the vehicle mode
-Vehicle mode has a vertical hinge right where the cab meets the trailer, almost as if a whole side panel folds out from the trailer, perhaps part of a false front to cover the Hot Rod car.
-Vehicle mode front wheels do not match those of the bot mode arms...maybe the rear of the car becomes the front of the Winnebago, the spoiler rotates, and the false front comes down to cover the car back? Or it's just a different proto and they changed the wheel design, which would be way less convoluted.

Actually, I think we're looking at two different designs here. There are too many differences between the bot & alt modes.

At least the possibility of a Hot Rod mode is very substantiated.