MSNBC's Take on the Transformers Movie

I can't help but laugh at the quoted part.

It might not beat Spidey or Jack at the box office, but since a lot of parents have already bought their kids Spidey and Jack at the toy store, Hasbro's going to clean up bigtime on toys.

You mean that Bay's career hangs in the balance with this craptacular movie? Oh thank god. Good bye Mr. Bay. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Good job Mr. Bay, no one thinks it'll play beyond the core fanboys and you've alienated them.

"fanboys"?

Who cares what this guy thinks, nobody knows what will happen till its released, done and over with.

Acecool wrote:You mean that Bay's career hangs in the balance with this craptacular movie? Oh thank god. Good bye Mr. Bay. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Good job Mr. Bay, no one thinks it'll play beyond the core fanboys and you've alienated them.

You'll just say anything to try to dog Bay won't you. The group of "fanboys" that are "alienated" seems to be dwindling by the day. While not everyone likes all of the designs they will still give the movie a chance.

"thoguths"??
Regarding Stuart Levine's comments I say to not believe him. Many times box office predictions arent true. A prime example is 300. 300 is making a hefty profit and Box Office predictors said it would get past 150 million. Its made more than double that. Well I guess Transformers rides on us fellow Transformer Fans. If we call BS after July 4th the movie may fail. I'm looking foward to the movie.

If I could make one change to that list it would be to place the new Transformers movie in the number 5 spot.

I freely admit I still have concerns about the movie - but if the movie is done well [treatment of source, quality-wise, etc.] I think the movie up could hit the number 3/4 spots {$270 - $290 million on the list}.

However, if the movie is not done well [see above] we could easily see a mirror performance of Dean Devlin's and Roland Emmerich's 1998 "Godzilla" movie. A rather good/respectable first weekend but quickly tapering off in subsequent weeks as as Transformers fans and average movie-goers look towards other films.

I'm pretty certain that PotC and Spidey have the number 1 and 2 spots locked down tight, I don't think any other movie this summer will be able to touch 'em.

I'm sorry, but I really don't agree with this list as a whole. Yes, the top 2 films will be Pirates and Spider-Man, but I could see TF as a close third. Shrek had a strong following for the second film and such, but it seems to have lost a lot of steam since then. The same goes for yet another Harry Potter film. True, it is a hot property, but the films just don't seem to get the buzz the first few did. Lastly, WTF is Evan Almighty doing in the #5 slot? TF will beat that by a long shot, if none of the others.

it's going to take the #1 spot and crush all other movies.

Theres no way in Hell it'll beat POTC or SM3. And as Roboto said....Why the Hell is Evan Almighty even on that list? It'll be lucky to break 80 million. I'm sorry but Steve Correll does not have the draw the Jim Carrey did. That and from what I've seen, the movie looks like crap.

1337W422102 wrote:I can't help but laugh at the quoted part.

Same here! I got a good laugh from that. I'm sure the movie will perform well despite some disagreement about character designs and what not.
And Die Hard isn't on the list...Though I guess I'm not surprised.

I liked The Island...

I still don't know what the appeal of the Pirate movies is.

Ranked BENEATH Evan ALmighty? BOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That's just LOW, MSNBC. Shame on you for even putting that on the list.

I see Transformers in the number five slot easily, and only because Harry, Spidey, Pirates, and Shrek are huge mega-franshises movie-wise already, whereas Transformers haven't been on the big screen in 21 years.

Evan Almighty #5 without Jim Carry infront of Transformers? please...Wheres FF 2 and Die Hard 4? If anything they should be on that list above Evan Almighty

Nightwatcher wrote:Theres no way in Hell it'll beat POTC or SM3.

I've seen it predicted in several places that the box office hits will be POTC 3, SM 3, and TF, in that order.

That is my thought as well. Shrek to me is way past it's prime. I have a crapload of nieces and nephews and none of them even know a third one is coming out. They all want to go see Transformers and Spider-Man 3. This is coming from 4-11 year old kids.

I have a feeling that Transformers will do better than some insiders are predicting. Take away the fact that every other dude at my work is excited to see it. But a couple of weeks ago I and two of my female friends who are 21 and 23 years old went to see Disturbia. Before the movie started they played the TF trailer again. Not only did it get the biggest reaction out of the crowd but both girls grabbed me and said, "were seeing that". That shocked me comming from those two who know nothing about Tf's

"One thing's for sure, if this one's no good, Bay won't be working anytime soon." The End of Bay? BWAHAHAHA! Fall, FALL!

No more Bay films would be good but is a failure this summer really going to hurt him? Hollywood always needs shallow movies.

Screambug wrote:"fanboys?"

I know.

Is fanboys like the 'n' word? It's only okay to say it if you're one of them?

I suspect the reviewer here hates Michael Bay (his movies, him personally, or both) and is transferring that to the page. He's being unrealistically pessimistic because, like Acecool and Sentinel Maximus in this very thread, he wants him to fail and be kicked out of the business. Since most people will be going to see TF because 'Hey! Giant robots that turn into cars!' rather than 'Hey! That director is a skilled storyteller and I admire his other work!' I don't think the film has much to worry about.

-Nick

I am going to take a wait and see approach for the 2007 movie. I know for shure it will make more than the 1986 animated movie.

Transformers would definetely beat another craptacular comedy with Jim Carrey

That was a perfect sumation!

Every new movie franchise with planned sequels, has to deal with being "the new guy" in such an expensive buisness. Transformers G1 (The best show) was in the 80s, while the movie critics on tv thought they were to old to watch it, this generation now was to young. Some of fans of the current child-teen generation, might only have Galaxy Force (Cybertron), to look to for reference. I think maybe they should of released Transformers "Heroes" first, to maybe build up a new fanbase and possibly make more of a profit on the movie.

Hogwash. First of all, next week is not summer. If you expect people to be consider Spider-Man 3 a summer movie because people will be seeing into the summer, it would have to have greater popularity for people to go see it instead of Pirates 3. So either Spider-man 3 shouldn't technically be on the list, or they're totally overrating Pirates 3.

Second of all, $235 million is the "safe bet." All the movies above it are sequels, with two or more successful movies preceeding them. They're not projecting sales just on whether or not people will LIKE the movies; they're projecting it based on the prequel sales. But I say it's like rolling a die. Just because you roll a six twice in a row doesn't affect the odds of you rolling a six the third time.

And if Transformers beats its $235 mill projection? Then all hell will break loose.

I would love to see Transformers beat PiratesOTC...I fickin hate those movies!!!

This is complete bullshit! I have been working in the movie theater business for some time and I haven't spent money on a tickets since Carrie 2 the revenge. Neither has my army of friends or family for that matter. Everyone has the understanding that opening day they must purchase at least 2 tickets for themselves even if they see it once. I will be buying tickets to every theater in L.A. for every show even though I won't be there. And I'll make sure everyone sees Pirates and all that other crap for free! Mua ha ha ha ha.

*Sigh*

Why does everyone hate Michael Bay so much? His movies Do Not suck, by any stretch of the imagination. On paper, and in practice, his movies give you everything you want or Could want from a blockbuster movie experience. I just don't get why people give this guy such a hard time. His movies have Action, Comedy, Romance, Politics, and to top it off, he's got his own style. You can tell it's a Michael Bay film when you see it. He doesn't make 'kiddie' movies. He makes movies with Huge explosions and Lude humor, plus, his casts always have charisma. Michael Bay's movies don't seem to have a lot of stupid dialogue either; take Armageddon for example. The whole movie is FULL of one-liners from just about everyone. Michael Bay has worked with some of the best and most well-respected actors on the screen and gotten A LOT of the qualities that make them so good out of them and into his movies. George Lucas certainly wasn't able to do that with the Prequel Trilogy- and I LOVE Star Wars!

All I'm saying is, this guy knows what he's doing. He get's the Actors to breathe life into their characters. Example: Steve Buscemi in Armageddon. Or, Ewan MacGregor in The Island. Through the characters they are portraying, you see what makes those particular actors so good. His Cinematography is excellent. Example: The scene in Pearl Harbor with the Japanese fleet flying over the baseball field(or is it a soccer field?). It gave me Goosebumps to see that many foreign air forces intruding on a kid's every day life; and he accomplished that with ONE camera move! His Editing Crews always get the pacing perfect; his movies never slow down. Maybe Pearl Harbor slowed down a bit, but that's because it was supposed to be more of a "Love Story" centered around the historic date.

My point is, I can not think of a better "Action Movie" director for Transformers. Who else is there?

Ultra Magnus wrote:*Sigh*

Why does everyone hate Michael Bay so much? His movies Do Not suck, by any stretch of the imagination. On paper, and in practice, his movies give you everything you want or Could want from a blockbuster movie experience. I just don't get why people give this guy such a hard time. His movies have Action, Comedy, Romance, Politics, and to top it off, he's got his own style. You can tell it's a Michael Bay film when you see it. He doesn't make 'kiddie' movies. He makes movies with Huge explosions and Lude humor, plus, his casts always have charisma. Michael Bay's movies don't seem to have a lot of stupid dialogue either; take Armageddon for example. The whole movie is FULL of one-liners from just about everyone. Michael Bay has worked with some of the best and most well-respected actors on the screen and gotten A LOT of the qualities that make them so good out of them and into his movies. George Lucas certainly wasn't able to do that with the Prequel Trilogy- and I LOVE Star Wars!

All I'm saying is, this guy knows what he's doing. He get's the Actors to breathe life into their characters. Example: Steve Buscemi in Armageddon. Or, Ewan MacGregor in The Island. Through the characters they are portraying, you see what makes those particular actors so good. His Cinematography is excellent. Example: The scene in Pearl Harbor with the Japanese fleet flying over the baseball field(or is it a soccer field?). It gave me Goosebumps to see that many foreign air forces intruding on a kid's every day life; and he accomplished that with ONE camera move! His Editing Crews always get the pacing perfect; his movies never slow down. Maybe Pearl Harbor slowed down a bit, but that's because it was supposed to be more of a "Love Story" centered around the historic date.

My point is, I can not think of a better "Action Movie" director for Transformers. Who else is there?

Great to see another Chicago guy around here, and I totally agree. When it comes to portrayl of the military to action sequences, Micheal Bay is the man. I also agree with your opinion on Pearl Harbor, the Zeros flying past the clothes lines and everybody looking at them was spectacular

Ultra Magnus wrote:*Sigh*

Why does everyone hate Michael Bay so much? His movies Do Not suck, by any stretch of the imagination. On paper, and in practice, his movies give you everything you want or Could want from a blockbuster movie experience. I just don't get why people give this guy such a hard time. His movies have Action, Comedy, Romance, Politics, and to top it off, he's got his own style. You can tell it's a Michael Bay film when you see it. He doesn't make 'kiddie' movies. He makes movies with Huge explosions and Lude humor, plus, his casts always have charisma. Michael Bay's movies don't seem to have a lot of stupid dialogue either; take Armageddon for example. The whole movie is FULL of one-liners from just about everyone. Michael Bay has worked with some of the best and most well-respected actors on the screen and gotten A LOT of the qualities that make them so good out of them and into his movies. George Lucas certainly wasn't able to do that with the Prequel Trilogy- and I LOVE Star Wars!

All I'm saying is, this guy knows what he's doing. He get's the Actors to breathe life into their characters. Example: Steve Buscemi in Armageddon. Or, Ewan MacGregor in The Island. Through the characters they are portraying, you see what makes those particular actors so good. His Cinematography is excellent. Example: The scene in Pearl Harbor with the Japanese fleet flying over the baseball field(or is it a soccer field?). It gave me Goosebumps to see that many foreign air forces intruding on a kid's every day life; and he accomplished that with ONE camera move! His Editing Crews always get the pacing perfect; his movies never slow down. Maybe Pearl Harbor slowed down a bit, but that's because it was supposed to be more of a "Love Story" centered around the historic date.

My point is, I can not think of a better "Action Movie" director for Transformers. Who else is there?

Great to see another Chicago guy around here, and I totally agree. When it comes to portrayl of the military to action sequences, Micheal Bay is the man. I also agree with your opinion on Pearl Harbor, the Zeros flying past the clothes lines and everybody looking at them was spectacular

I keep trying to tell myself "I don't care what other people think!" But I can't help but read. Anyway, It'll be against SM 3, POTC 3, and TF. I don't care about Evan Almighty, and Shrek is turning into another fanchise being milked like a cow.

I find this quote to be quite revealing as this guy IS the "general public" they were suposably aiming for and yet, he says it stinks.

How ironic.

As much as i hate most of the designs, and the mouth thing(uuugggghhhhh....), I want the movie to rip everything else to shreds just because its Transformers. Sort of a tie up between Spiderman 3 and Transformers, the other movies, I don't know anything about. I'm just so afraid they messed it up too much, and the rest of the world(if they show up to see it) is going to look at it and say(to us the fans), why do you like Transformers? That movie sucked.

Duo Prime wrote:As much as i hate most of the designs, and the mouth thing(uuugggghhhhh....), I want the movie to rip everything else to shreds just because its Transformers. Sort of a tie up between Spiderman 3 and Transformers, the other movies, I don't know anything about. I'm just so afraid they messed it up too much, and the rest of the world(if they show up to see it) is going to look at it and say(to us the fans), why do you like Transformers? That movie sucked.

Spider-Man 3 is doing a good job of making money, but it is disappointing more and more people along the way (based on the feedback and reviews I've heard, as well as my own thoughts after seeing it). It might just give TF somewhat of a slight advantage. At least in reviews, that is...

Doesn't Harry Potter come out a week or so after Transformers? It's getting good buzz (the trailer looks excellent) and at it's worst will make over 700m WW (third one made $789,804,554 worldwide and that was the lowest gross of the series). With the final book coming out and sending the hype even further, it could be the biggest film of the series and make a billion. That is something Transformers is not going to want to run into.

For Gondor! wrote:Doesn't Harry Potter come out a week or so after Transformers? It's getting good buzz (the trailer looks excellent) and at it's worst will make over 700m WW (third one made $789,804,554 worldwide and that was the lowest gross of the series). With the final book coming out and sending the hype even further, it could be the biggest film of the series and make a billion. That is something Transformers is not going to want to run into.

True, Harry Potter will be all hyped up at the time of it's release (and is even now), but it is still the 5th movie in the series. I can see more kids (and older readers) buying the new book before getting to go see the new movie in the theater. I'm sure it will make a bunch of money, but I think TF is still a pretty strong contender against it (that is if they would promote the darn TF movie like it should be!).