Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It

Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It

Monday, March 21st, 2022 8:50pm CDT

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TFcon has become the hit North American Transformers convention since Botcon ceased to function in 2016, and has produced some big name visitors and some occasional fun official news as well.

Recently, TFcon held its springtime convention, and during that convention F.J. DeSanto, who was the showrunner for the recent War for Cybertron Series on Netflix offered up some new information. He put forth that they did have a series based on Transformers Legacy lined up, and the show was offered to Netflix, but ultimately the streaming service declined to pick it up.

This is an interesting bit of news for a couple reasons. For on thing, given that both War for Cybertron and its predecessor Prime Wars trilogy received cartoons, it was speculated that we might see a series based on Legacy as well. We can at least say that there was one in the design stages, but one that was ultimately put down before it could go anywhere. This might also be a sign of general streaming service disinterest in "mature" transformers content, as both War for Cybertron and the Prime Wars series were received with lukewarm feeling on average.

It is also interesting as it shows that we might have had a Transformers cartoon Multiverse story, which would have coincided with the general Hollywood theme of Multiverses as the hit topic of stories right now. We have had several multiversal stories in Transformers, but they have mostly been limited to comic arcs that tend to be more limited in audience appeal or accessibility.

Either way, for now, the future of Transformers cartoons appears to be focused on Botbots and Earthspark.

Let us know what you think of this news, and whether this was a disappointing choice by Netflix, or if the decision was a mercy killing.

This news was originally broken to us by @MikeSibertRadio on Twitter, who was present for the DeSanto interview at TFcon.

Credit(s): @MikeSibertRadio on Twitter


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Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129430)
Posted by PrymeStriker on March 21st, 2022 @ 8:55pm CDT
That is hilarious.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129431)
Posted by hiway7 on March 21st, 2022 @ 8:57pm CDT
GOOD. Netflix Transformers looked amazing but the stories were uninspired and boring.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129434)
Posted by kurthy on March 21st, 2022 @ 9:14pm CDT
I think that's an incredible generous take for the train wrecks that were Prime Wars and WFC. Maybe Netflix decided that the series would again be substandard and that doesn't help Netflix. Those series weren't serious or adult oriented, they were juvenile and laughable. From menasor's voice acting to spirit plane sky lynx.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129435)
Posted by o.supreme on March 21st, 2022 @ 9:18pm CDT
The pairing was bad to begin with. Rooster Teeth can't write a good story to save it's life. Netflix is just doing what Netflix does. Put out garbage content, and then cancel at the first sign of trouble. The only difference is that unlike many of their other projects, WFC trilogy didn't cost very much.

I think it could have been much better, with different writers, and actually on a network of some kind, NOT Netflix.

Now for the next 2 years at least, there will be no new TF content to enjoy. I could watch the original series or BW for the Hundredth time. Or Car Robots or Prime for the dozenth time. But there are plenty of other things to keep me going.

Other than a couple of toys. 2022-23 seem to be a very TF light year.

The most exciting bit of animated news is that Discotek will be releasing Dorvack the complete series as SD on BRD. I can't wait to see OG Whirl and Roadbuster in animated form ;)
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129436)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on March 21st, 2022 @ 9:19pm CDT
1. I'm half-surprised the cancellation didn't happen to Kingdom, Netflix have a bad habit of dropping things before they run their course it feels like.
2a. Wait, the Prime Wars machinima were on Netflix? Geez.
2b. The Prime Wars machinima being received lukewarm isn't exactly a surprise, they weren't very good from what I understand. Combiner Wars did a worse job hawking combiners than freaking Energon (let alone the toyline's actual TV ads), Titans Return was just kinda there, and Power of the Primes A. didn't do much to unify and hype the line's gimmicks beyond "moar combiners, B. used models of 3P toys instead of what it was supposed to hawk in some cases, and C. Drowned itself in negativity like the worse parts of the 2000s Battlestar Galactica.

3. The WFC trilogy was... okay, based on seeing SIEGE and reading summaries. Certainly has good character bits. But it could have been better. Rooster Teeth made the mistake of writing with the assumption most viewers would be fans already immersed in the lore, so for people who aren't in the know the series doesn't establish certain key things very well. For all that people call the G1 cartoon shallow, it does a good job of establishing its key ideological conflict in the pilot miniseries - the Decepticons are military imperialists, whereas the Autobots are workers who've had to become soldiers because they oppose the Decepticons' imperialism. It also might have been nice to see Rooster Teeth work together with IDW to build a collaborative storyline, instead of yet more fragmented G1 continuities that don't really work with each other.

I'd still like to see a series, cartoon or comic, that does what the Wings Universe did (but to a broader extent and where possible better): Flesh out the G1 cartoon's universe (I'd love to see stories of cartoon-continuity Megatron's early days, see how he grows into the role he was built for) and unify bits of lore that snag on each other (either by tweaking them or explaining how they work together). As well as providing: an actual depiction of the Protectobots' belatedly-established origins, retellings of Season 1 stories (or at least of snapshots of them) that insert the "Here all along" Season 2 characters into those events, a re-do of B.O.T. as something that doesn't fail (or else an official statement from Hasbro that that episode does not count and is retroactively 100% on the4 cutting room floor)...
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129438)
Posted by kurthy on March 21st, 2022 @ 9:23pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Now for the next 2 years at least, there will be no new TF content to enjoy. I could watch the original series or BW for the Hundredth time. Or Car Robots or Prime for the dozenth time. But there are plenty of other things to keep me going.


You could always give the TF show that comes out on March 25 a chance. It looks fun and lighthearted and will probably have better VA and writing than either prime wars or WFC.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129439)
Posted by o.supreme on March 21st, 2022 @ 9:25pm CDT
I'm not saying it's going to be bad. It's just not for me.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129441)
Posted by Randomhero on March 21st, 2022 @ 9:59pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:The pairing was bad to begin with. Rooster Teeth can't write a good story to save it's life. Netflix is just doing what Netflix does. Put out garbage content, and then cancel at the first sign of trouble. The only difference is that unlike many of their other projects, WFC trilogy didn't cost very much.

I think it could have been much better, with different writers, and actually on a network of some kind, NOT Netflix.

Now for the next 2 years at least, there will be no new TF content to enjoy. I could watch the original series or BW for the Hundredth time. Or Car Robots or Prime for the dozenth time. But there are plenty of other things to keep me going.

Other than a couple of toys. 2022-23 seem to be a very TF light year.

The most exciting bit of animated news is that Discotek will be releasing Dorvack the complete series as SD on BRD. I can't wait to see OG Whirl and Roadbuster in animated form ;)


You really don’t know anything.

Rooster teeth writers didn’t write WFC. They produced it. It was written by previous transformers writers with the bulk of kingdom being written by cyberverse writers. Netflix doesn’t typically cancel shows when they falter(They don’t reveal numbers unless it’s a trending hit and that’s to gloat it’s success), they have fully admitted they only see most of their original shows going for 2-3 seasons. I’m saying most by the way. There’s a few exceptions but transformers isn’t worth comparing to orange is the new black or stranger things.

And I’m sure you’ll still watch all the new shows if only to complain about them on forums.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129454)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on March 21st, 2022 @ 11:29pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. I'm half-surprised the cancellation didn't happen to Kingdom, Netflix have a bad habit of dropping things before they run their course it feels like.

I'd reckon the contracts were written in such a way that they couldn't cancel it mid-way through. Also note "Offered"... Netflix declined renewal instead of cancelling it when the numbers fell.
Netflix received that offer, looked back at the previous four years and didn't want another embarrassing Transformers show under their belt (third time's the charm I guess).
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129455)
Posted by lovrboi on March 21st, 2022 @ 11:37pm CDT
In my view, Hasbro shortsightedly put their name on the cheapest toy commercial possible with the WFC trilogy. Hasbro could learn from Marvel. Marvel would never put their name on something at the level of WFC. Marvel has done an excellent job of investing in their IP, and, as a result, people trust a Marvel product will hit a certain level of quality. By pinching pennies, Hasbro only damages the Transformers brand.

The pandemic has shifted entertainment to streaming, and the quality has gone up (e.g. WandaVision, The Mandalorian). Hasbro needs to compare reasonably with the competition if they want to make a toy commercial.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129456)
Posted by o.supreme on March 21st, 2022 @ 11:38pm CDT
WFC was just one in a long long list. Netflix has had far worse series since, and will keep making terrible decisions, then cancel them after the fact
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129471)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 22nd, 2022 @ 4:41am CDT
It all comes down to money. If Netflix didn't had enough viewership for that series, of course they'll pull the plug.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129472)
Posted by Randomhero on March 22nd, 2022 @ 6:06am CDT
mikeb wrote:In my view, Hasbro shortsightedly put their name on the cheapest toy commercial possible with the WFC trilogy. Hasbro could learn from Marvel. Marvel would never put their name on something at the level of WFC. Marvel has done an excellent job of investing in their IP, and, as a result, people trust a Marvel product will hit a certain level of quality. By pinching pennies, Hasbro only damages the Transformers brand.

The pandemic has shifted entertainment to streaming, and the quality has gone up (e.g. WandaVision, The Mandalorian). Hasbro needs to compare reasonably with the competition if they want to make a toy commercial.


Hasbro makes both marvel and transformers. They’re not really competing dude. They know who buys what as well as there people who get both and don’t compare the MCUs fiction to transformers. They’re apples and oranges
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129473)
Posted by Big Grim on March 22nd, 2022 @ 6:41am CDT
The WfC trilogy wasn't lukewarmly received because they were mature. It's because they were garbage. The writers couldn't actually write for peanuts and it showed all too clearly.

~ Grim
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129476)
Posted by Randomhero on March 22nd, 2022 @ 6:47am CDT
Big Grim wrote:The WfC trilogy wasn't lukewarmly received because they were mature. It's because they were garbage. The writers couldn't actually write for peanuts and it showed all too clearly.

~ Grim


Wasn’t well received…siege has a 96% on rotten tomatoes, Earthrise has an 86% and kingdom has an 83%.

Wasn’t well received by grown adults who play with toys who think their fan fiction is better and spend most of their time on message boards complaining about everything. Know who takes those reviews serious? NOBODY! But the companies do take the professional reviewers serious.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129478)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 22nd, 2022 @ 7:06am CDT
Randomhero wrote:
mikeb wrote:In my view, Hasbro shortsightedly put their name on the cheapest toy commercial possible with the WFC trilogy. Hasbro could learn from Marvel. Marvel would never put their name on something at the level of WFC. Marvel has done an excellent job of investing in their IP, and, as a result, people trust a Marvel product will hit a certain level of quality. By pinching pennies, Hasbro only damages the Transformers brand.

The pandemic has shifted entertainment to streaming, and the quality has gone up (e.g. WandaVision, The Mandalorian). Hasbro needs to compare reasonably with the competition if they want to make a toy commercial.


Hasbro makes both marvel and transformers. They’re not really competing dude. They know who buys what as well as there people who get both and don’t compare the MCUs fiction to transformers. They’re apples and oranges

I think he was mainly referring to the TV/Movie side of Marvel rather then toy side, after all more people watch Marvel tv then buy Marvel toys. You're end assumption is right though, they are apples and oranges really.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129480)
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on March 22nd, 2022 @ 7:58am CDT
I haven't posted on here in YEARS. I came on here to say that the NETFLIX transformers shows were terrible! I'm surprised kingdom ever got made the way the first two were so slow and painfully devoid of any plot or humor or excitement. I would rather watch a stop motion toy commercial than subject myself to more than a few minutes of WFC trilogy. SO BORING!!

This has nothing to do with Netflix not wanting mature transformers content the WFC shows were just bad.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129481)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on March 22nd, 2022 @ 8:29am CDT
I am honestly not surprised. Siege and Kingdom were ...ok... shows. But they weren't good. and the rest were just horrible. (except the cw-pw megatron, he was gold) Hell, even the idw comic prequal stories were worse then bad, they were boring.

I know theres a lot of blame put on rooster teeth, and with VERY good reason, however I think there's a large sum of blame to be levied on hasbro themselves and the constraints they put on the story.

writing was bad, voice direction was terrible, some characters were a complete waste (looking at you skylynx). In the end, there's barely enough there to justify a webtoon, let alone a full blown series.
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129492)
Posted by Big Grim on March 22nd, 2022 @ 9:44am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Wasn’t well received by grown adults who play with toys who think their fan fiction is better and spend most of their time on message boards complaining about everything.

Yes, taking this tone is entirely acceptable.

I collect the odd Transformer. I don't write fan fiction. I DO write. About various things. Not about Transformers though. I don't complain about everything. In fact, I rarely "complain". I praise what I enjoy and will offer my opinion on something that I believe is terrible. The Netflix shows were terrible. They were poorly written. That's my opinion. It's not insulting anyone

Please take your incredibly broad insult and chuck it. It's unnecessary. Cheers.

~ Grim
Re: Netflix was Offered a Transformers Legacy Series and Declined to Take It (2129510)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 22nd, 2022 @ 11:43am CDT
Honestly, Siege was so bad that it amazes me just how much better a fanmade stop motion production can capture all the feels and emotions of the story concept of Siege so much better than Siege tried and failed to do.

What stop motion? why, "Target: Alpha Trion", of course:



Give it a watch. It is amazing. It's got Garry Chalk, Peter Spellos, and a Megatron who sounds like an impression of Tim Curry!

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