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New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2

Transformers News: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2

Monday, July 27th, 2020 3:04PM CDT

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Greetings Seibertronians! Following a heads up from fellow Seibertron users, transformers_va and -WonkoTheSane-, we've learned that our first look at the recently teased new version of Masterpiece Starscream.

The first image comes from the TagHobby website, who took the sketch from Figure King #270 Magazine, where it was first published.

Transformers News: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2

Meanwhile, the Transformers Never Die (TFND) fan facebook page, have posted sketches of the side, front, And back of the design of the figure. These are believed to have also come from Figure King magazine.

Transformers News: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2

While this is the third version of Starscream to be released, this is being advertised as the second version of the character, as MP-11 was a retool of MP-03.

What do you think of these new designs? Will you be picking up this new version of the treacherous second in command? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.
Credit(s): transformers_va and -WonkoTheSane- from Seibertron, TagHobby, TFND facebook page

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Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073872)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on July 27th, 2020 @ 3:29pm CDT
It’s a little difficult to see what’s going on totally with the backpack, but Screamer doesn’t look to bad overall. Can’t wait to see the alternate faces and accessories he’ll come with, really hoping they include the crown and cape too

Unfortunately he’s probably gonna be pricey AF, and that’s just gonna make it harder to try and get the inevitable other seekers..

:CON:
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073878)
Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2020 @ 3:58pm CDT
Looks like they're treading a thin line between cartoon accuracy and not, just being a nice transforming jet. I suspect it'll be possible to leave the tail wings out for those that like that, can't think of any reason why that wouldn't be optional (I'm sure certain negative types can think of a list of reasons).

Emerje
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073882)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 27th, 2020 @ 4:06pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:It’s a little difficult to see what’s going on totally with the backpack, but Screamer doesn’t look to bad overall. Can’t wait to see the alternate faces and accessories he’ll come with, really hoping they include the crown and cape too

Unfortunately he’s probably gonna be pricey AF, and that’s just gonna make it harder to try and get the inevitable other seekers..

:CON:


I know lots of accessories are becoming standard, but I wish it wasn't... A couple alternate faces for varied expression, a couple that are well-known items from the show, and that should be it.
Leave it to 3P to make crown and cape sets...
I'm saying this because I don't want any extras driving the price up; I'm really hoping this isn't over $260-$280... It's like those $120 Lego sets; gets very difficult to justify that chunk of change for a toy no matter how good it looks.
Then to think there will be 5 more MP's released with basically this same mold...

I'm very anxious to see painted shots... There are more and more figures I'd consider getting if I were to pass on this guy on top of what I know I want and what's possibly going to come in the SS '86 line.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073895)
Posted by 84everfan on July 27th, 2020 @ 5:05pm CDT
Boy oh boy another mp for everyone to complain about the price but buy anyway. Yeah these things are exclusively for cartoon accuracy and playability and nostalgia. And it looks gorgeous. Cannot wait to see it in color. Seriously though, you people have got to stop complaining.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073903)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 27th, 2020 @ 6:02pm CDT
At the moment I'm preferring the positionable wings of the original to be able to set them back/at angles but seeing the figure rather thn the line art will help more. I'd be happy for him to not include cape/crown and flight stand. I'll wait an see on the price before complaining though he's probably going to be three times the originals rrp.

Doesnt seem to be missing vital bits like the Baynus Mp version 2s lack of thrusters so that's a big plus.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073904)
Posted by Burn on July 27th, 2020 @ 6:44pm CDT
84everfan wrote:Seriously though, you people have got to stop complaining.

nah, we'll complain and you can either scroll on or get over it. Ironically, you're in another thread complaining about Funko Pops. So I guess it's okay for you to complain but not others huh? :-?
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073905)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 27th, 2020 @ 6:53pm CDT
OK, so my bet for this figure:

Price: $300-325

Accessories: 3 alternate faces, a crown, a cape, a Megatron gun, a stand/flight stand, and probably 3 other accessories I don't know about
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073917)
Posted by First-Aid on July 27th, 2020 @ 7:13pm CDT
Oh look. Another seeker mold. Wheee.

>:oP

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, so my bet for this figure:

Price: $300-325

Accessories: 3 alternate faces, a crown, a cape, a Megatron gun, a stand/flight stand, and probably 3 other accessories I don't know about


I don't think they will hit that price. I can't see die-cast in this figure like in Prime.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073919)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on July 27th, 2020 @ 7:15pm CDT
84everfan wrote:Boy oh boy another mp for everyone to complain about the price but buy anyway. Yeah these things are exclusively for cartoon accuracy and playability and nostalgia. And it looks gorgeous. Cannot wait to see it in color. Seriously though, you people have got to stop complaining.


To at least be fair, the MP line has seen a huge price increase since the shift to make the figures looks off-the-screen accurate. It started around the time MP Ironhide came out, if I'm not mistaken.

I mean, look at Bumblebee. The first MP Bee was only 60-70 dollars, AND he came with a complete transforming exosuit Spike/Daniel.
The new MP Bee is 120 dollars, comes with no exosuit, and in my opinion looks like someone stepped on Bumblebee's character model.

There's a LOT of extra engineering going into these new guys to make them as screen accurate as possible, and I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge this and not be a big fan of it.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073921)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on July 27th, 2020 @ 7:24pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Oh look. Another seeker mold. Wheee.

>:oP

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, so my bet for this figure:

Price: $300-325

Accessories: 3 alternate faces, a crown, a cape, a Megatron gun, a stand/flight stand, and probably 3 other accessories I don't know about


I don't think they will hit that price. I can't see die-cast in this figure like in Prime.


ALSO THIS. Yeah it's always exciting to get new MP news but... Another Seeker, another wave of only 84/85 Decepticons.
Exhaust and Loudpedal shouldn't be the only examples that don't fit under that category.

The MP line really should try to increase its Decepticon representation with new characters.

Masterpiece insecticons anyone?
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073930)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on July 27th, 2020 @ 10:02pm CDT
Careful what you wish for, they might hear that we want more Decepticons and remake Shockwave.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073933)
Posted by 84everfan on July 27th, 2020 @ 10:17pm CDT
For those of you wondering about the price hike in mp figures,they're trying to be as cartoon accurate as possible. And if you look at the character designs they should not be able transform into anything. But the amount of separate parts that need to be individually molded and produced? That stuff costs money people. They have to make NEW machines for that sh*t. New molds. It's not greed, it's upkeep. It's what puts figures on the shelves for you people. And if you want accuracy in both robot and alt modes, you're gonna get an increase.
I'm 18 years old and I currently don't have a job or a car, or a whole lot of friends, and I'm willing to admit that so I don't sound like a hypocrite. I'm doing what I can to get by. I shouldn't have to be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me. If you want "fun" for a fair price, then go sit in the corner and play with your CHUGS while the rest of us would rather save up for the sake of accuracy than settle for mediocre figures for children. Reflector being an exception.

I'm having none of that "refraktor" nonsense. So when I see people like jobbythehong complaining about backpacks saying things like #backlivesmatter it pisses me off. You're not displaying it from behind. I don't think there's much I can say else, but I'm sick of you people complaining.
We may be paying them but we should be lucky for what they do give us even though we all want our mp jazzes and galvatron's and what not. And yeah maybe they do suck at priorities, but let's cut them some slack and save our complaints for things like the scourge that is one step changers.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073955)
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 28th, 2020 @ 3:10am CDT
84everfan wrote:be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me.


Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of 30 somethings have even less stable lives :(
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073971)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 28th, 2020 @ 7:40am CDT
84everfan wrote:For those of you wondering about the price hike in mp figures,they're trying to be as cartoon accurate as possible. And if you look at the character designs they should not be able transform into anything. But the amount of separate parts that need to be individually molded and produced? That stuff costs money people. They have to make NEW machines for that sh*t. New molds. It's not greed, it's upkeep. It's what puts figures on the shelves for you people. And if you want accuracy in both robot and alt modes, you're gonna get an increase.
I'm 18 years old and I currently don't have a job or a car, or a whole lot of friends, and I'm willing to admit that so I don't sound like a hypocrite. I'm doing what I can to get by. I shouldn't have to be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me. If you want "fun" for a fair price, then go sit in the corner and play with your CHUGS while the rest of us would rather save up for the sake of accuracy than settle for mediocre figures for children. Reflector being an exception.

I'm having none of that "refraktor" nonsense. So when I see people like jobbythehong complaining about backpacks saying things like #backlivesmatter it pisses me off. You're not displaying it from behind. I don't think there's much I can say else, but I'm sick of you people complaining.
We may be paying them but we should be lucky for what they do give us even though we all want our mp jazzes and galvatron's and what not. And yeah maybe they do suck at priorities, but let's cut them some slack and save our complaints for things like the scourge that is one step changers.


your right on the piece count, which does make the price a lot higher. something I myself have also noted.

also complaining about complaining. Neat.

But the thing is, because we are humans, and probably have bills to pay, limited shelf space, families to take care of, etc, when something is very expensive, large, but without being the exact thing you've ever wanted, people are going to take it apart. because it is frustrating. But that is the nature of a niche market, and a masterpiece figure is a niche market within a niche market. Like it or not, toy collectors are only a small part of the greater toy market. Which is why I don't get mad at one step changers; those are not made for me. The masterpiece line IS made for people like me though, and has drifted away from when I feel made it great before. Personal opinion that mind you. So I will complain about what I don't like, because I want what I do like.

However, I acknowledge that the current masterpiece line does have a following, and probably way more then people like me who preferred the older mp's. Given these are generally made for the Japanese market, with western audiences being an after thought, that is likely what they prefer there.

and that is ok. NORMAL even. different people have different tastes. people will complain about what they don't like. Sometimes the complaining is a way for them to justify spending/not spending the money. like for me, I am looking at this sketch saying, he looks too thick from the side. almost catroonishly thicc. Do I really need ANOTHER mp Starscream to add to my overloaded shelves of Starscream? (probably yes) but that is part of being an adult and making adult decisions about frivolous purchases. (omg I just called Starscream frivolous, FORGIVE ME)

So there's no reason to attack people. Don't hate the player, hate the game, as they say.

I used to be "I am going to buy every mo EVAR!!!" but now I am finding plenty of reasons to pass on them, which is good, because I don't have the space or money, and have transitioned to the generations line, which is mostly awesome now. Which is also bad, because I don't have room, or money. seriously, I feel like this should be my sig atm: Image
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073973)
Posted by sol magnus on July 28th, 2020 @ 8:39am CDT
Gotta say, I'm probably going to get it.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073987)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 28th, 2020 @ 10:49am CDT
sol magnus wrote:Gotta say, I'm probably going to get it.


As long that we don't have a repeat of Screamers 1.5, I'll be preordering this new 2.0 version as soon as the listing goes live on Amazon.JP.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2073996)
Posted by Cyberpath on July 28th, 2020 @ 12:11pm CDT
Pretty coloruing by Cheebs --

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Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074001)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 28th, 2020 @ 12:41pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Pretty coloruing by Cheebs --

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NOICE
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074002)
Posted by hausjam on July 28th, 2020 @ 12:47pm CDT
Unless Hasbro is willing to subsidize part of the cost of MP-11, this is version 3.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074005)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 28th, 2020 @ 1:05pm CDT
hausjam wrote:Unless Hasbro is willing to subsidize part of the cost of MP-11, this is version 3.

Try telling that to Takara. They are the ones referring this as version 2. Because mp 3 and 11 come from the same source, they must think they count as the same.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074009)
Posted by -WonkoTheSane- on July 28th, 2020 @ 1:12pm CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:
84everfan wrote:be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me.


Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of 30 somethings have even less stable lives :(

^ This.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074021)
Posted by -WonkoTheSane- on July 28th, 2020 @ 1:46pm CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:But the thing is, because we are humans, and probably have bills to pay, limited shelf space, families to take care of, etc, when something is very expensive, large, but without being the exact thing you've ever wanted, people are going to take it apart. because it is frustrating. But that is the nature of a niche market, and a masterpiece figure is a niche market within a niche market. Like it or not, toy collectors are only a small part of the greater toy market. Which is why I don't get mad at one step changers; those are not made for me. The masterpiece line IS made for people like me though, and has drifted away from when I feel made it great before. Personal opinion that mind you. So I will complain about what I don't like, because I want what I do like.

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I agree with this. To add onto your point (And also because you drug Destro into this :lol: )
A good (outside franchise) example of this would be the recent GI Joe Classified Cobra Commander figure.
I just don't like it. I've tried. It's just too modern for me. I really wanted a classic one, With articulation on par with perhaps Marvel Legends. Thats not what they did. And so, I'm just not going to buy it, The one I want will probably come along sooner or later. The point I'm working towards, Is that figure probably wasn't made for me, Or with people like me in mind. Personally, I don't really feel the need to complain about it, It seems like a waste of time and energy to me, But people absolutely have the right to complain about a product that fails to live up to (possibly impossible) expectations. After all, People are paying for these things.
With their own money.
I've never understood apologists for companies saying "Oh you can't complain about that, They put a lot of work into it, It cost them money, Ect, Ect." This is a business arrangement, Between the supplier and the consumer. It is the supplier's purpose to make a product that appeals to as many people as possible, While still being profitable to them, And the consumer's purpose to discern whether or not they want said product, And exchange their money for said product if they do. When said product isn't what they or others wanted, The supplier fails on their first and most important requirement, To make something that appeals to as many people as possible. Therefore, The consumer absolutely has a right to complain.
After all, If they payed for it, The company already got their money (and really, even if they didn't) And the product still doesn't live up to expectations, The consumers are the ones getting the short end of the stick.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074050)
Posted by transformers_va on July 28th, 2020 @ 6:16pm CDT
84everfan wrote:But the amount of separate parts that need to be individually molded and produced? That stuff costs money people. They have to make NEW machines for that sh*t. New molds. It's not greed, it's upkeep.
Does that mean repaints should be less expensive? :-D

I do agree with you about the initial costs though, it does take money, and I'm happy to support them because I really enjoy the figures/designs!
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074093)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 29th, 2020 @ 2:01am CDT
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
84everfan wrote:be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me.


Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of 30 somethings have even less stable lives :(

^ This.


Just wait for your 40s.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074100)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 29th, 2020 @ 4:34am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
84everfan wrote:be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me.


Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of 30 somethings have even less stable lives :(

^ This.


Just wait for your 40s.


I'm nearly 44 and my life is more stable than a Buddhist monk's. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074132)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 29th, 2020 @ 12:11pm CDT
Something tells me he's gonna have absolutely no waist or torso articulation, and his transformation is going to be pure hell. At the best of times I'd say that sucks, but in a world where Maketoys Meteor exists, hard pass.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074152)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 29th, 2020 @ 2:16pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Something tells me he's gonna have absolutely no waist or torso articulation, and his transformation is going to be pure hell. At the best of times I'd say that sucks, but in a world where Maketoys Meteor exists, hard pass.


It's way too soon to judge.

Beside, Meteor cost 400$+ right now. So unless it get reissued, Meteor is no longer a viable option.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074153)
Posted by sol magnus on July 29th, 2020 @ 2:18pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Something tells me he's gonna have absolutely no waist or torso articulation, and his transformation is going to be pure hell. At the best of times I'd say that sucks, but in a world where Maketoys Meteor exists, hard pass.


It's way too soon to judge.

Beside, Meteor cost 400$+ right now. So unless it get reissued, Meteor is no longer a viable option.

Additionally, to his complaint...precious few Seekers have waist articulation. Hell, Starscream didn't seem to have much articulation in the cartoon!
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074154)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 29th, 2020 @ 2:25pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Additionally, to his complaint...precious few Seekers have waist articulation. Hell, Starscream didn't seem to have much articulation in the cartoon!


This make the Siege seeker mold even more marvelous!
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074172)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 29th, 2020 @ 5:13pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm nearly 44 and my life is more stable than a Buddhist monk's. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Same... And same.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074173)
Posted by First-Aid on July 29th, 2020 @ 5:23pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm nearly 44 and my life is more stable than a Buddhist monk's. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Same... And same.



Older than that...and life is soooooo effed up right now it's insane.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074177)
Posted by sol magnus on July 29th, 2020 @ 6:13pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm nearly 44 and my life is more stable than a Buddhist monk's. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Same... And same.



Older than that...and life is soooooo effed up right now it's insane.

Pile me in this club.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074320)
Posted by Emerje on July 31st, 2020 @ 2:43am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
-WonkoTheSane- wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:
84everfan wrote:be explaining this to 30 something year olds with significantly more stable lives than me.


Sorry to break it to you, but a lot of 30 somethings have even less stable lives :(

^ This.


Just wait for your 40s.


I'm nearly 44 and my life is more stable than a Buddhist monk's. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, I'm 40 and finally at the point where I'm thinking about home improvements instead of home repairs. Then again I'm sure things would be entirely different if I was married and had kids. ;)

Back on topic, since Starscream wont likely have electronics we can probably look at MP-49 Black Convoy as an idea of what the price will be like. I'm predicting somewhere around $200 with the exchange rate and less after Amazon Japan discounts.

Emerje
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074322)
Posted by Cyberpath on July 31st, 2020 @ 3:23am CDT
Proper scans from Loopaza Mega Store, click to enlarge --

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Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074329)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 31st, 2020 @ 4:57am CDT
I'm really, really looking forward the full physical prototype to see how it will work. As for the price, I paid CAN330$ shipped for that GARBAGE of MP-11. I felt scammed as hell. But if I pay the same price for this new version and it's worth every cents, I'll be very glad.

Now the waiting game.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074498)
Posted by Cyberpath on August 1st, 2020 @ 7:24am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Pretty coloruing by Cheebs

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And by chchchch --

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Toy colours...

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Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074519)
Posted by Syclone on August 1st, 2020 @ 11:43am CDT
He looks a little....stout.

But, so far, generally speaking, I am in to this and look forward to spending too much money on it.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074588)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 1st, 2020 @ 11:05pm CDT
Syclone wrote:He looks a little....stout.

But, so far, generally speaking, I am in to this and look forward to spending too much money on it.


I think he looks pretty much as good as he could, considering what they’re going for... Sorry, too stout??? Nahhh... At least imo, this looks incredibly good.
They’ve even managed to get an awesome resemblance in his face— I always thought the previous versions looked too generic.
This is going to be difficult to beat.
I’ll keep saying it until we know— I hope this guys doesn’t cost much over $250.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2074616)
Posted by Syclone on August 2nd, 2020 @ 7:44am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Syclone wrote:He looks a little....stout.

But, so far, generally speaking, I am in to this and look forward to spending too much money on it.


I think he looks pretty much as good as he could, considering what they’re going for... Sorry, too stout??? Nahhh... At least imo, this looks incredibly good.
They’ve even managed to get an awesome resemblance in his face— I always thought the previous versions looked too generic.
This is going to be difficult to beat.
I’ll keep saying it until we know— I hope this guys doesn’t cost much over $250.



Oh yeah! Don't get me wrong, I am VERY excited about this one. He looks great so far!
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2076915)
Posted by Cyberpath on August 21st, 2020 @ 2:55pm CDT
Amazing 3D renderings by Liampope, these are based on Takara's sketches. Click to enlarge.


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Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2076964)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 21st, 2020 @ 10:39pm CDT
This is going to be tough to pass on, no matter the cost.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077037)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 22nd, 2020 @ 10:52am CDT
Yikes, he's looking...not very good. He looks so barren and plain, and he's 99% backpack. Plus it looks like the chest cockpit is fake.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077042)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 22nd, 2020 @ 11:28am CDT
Black Hat wrote:Yikes, he's looking...not very good. He looks so barren and plain, and he's 99% backpack. Plus it looks like the chest cockpit is fake.



Not sure what people would want with an cartoon version of this character...
There shouldn't be any extra... Anything-- molding, texture, random paint apps, etc. It's going to look plain.
99% backpack?? That's some fuzzy math. What does that even mean? 99%????
I'll say I wish it didn't hang down so far, but even from a profile view it's not bad at all.
As far as the cockpit, that's a really well-done render, but it's still a render... Making a surface look transparent isn't super easy, so it's not going to look real.
I'm hoping it's highly saturated with yellow-orange color, so loosely semi-transparent.

Overall, imo that's on point to where I see this being a pretty incredible figure.
This could be up there with MP-13 for me.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077047)
Posted by Cyberpath on August 22nd, 2020 @ 11:46am CDT
Looks good to me. The fan renderings really made it come alive.

It appears that the stabilizers are folded on the back of his wings and that's how Takara managed to achieve the clean look of the legs. (Kind of like how MP-44 Prime stores the sides of the cab in his legs -- but in reverse.)

And I don't know, there's a chance that the canopy might be "real."
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077049)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 22nd, 2020 @ 11:56am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:And I don't know, there's a chance that the canopy might be "real."


I meant it's very difficult to make it look like real plastic; whether painted or especially colored transparent plastic, when it's a 2D CG render.
I don't know if it'll be able to open, but yeah, the real figure will have a real looking canopy.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077052)
Posted by Evil Eye on August 22nd, 2020 @ 12:36pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Black Hat wrote:Yikes, he's looking...not very good. He looks so barren and plain, and he's 99% backpack. Plus it looks like the chest cockpit is fake.



Not sure what people would want with an cartoon version of this character...
There shouldn't be any extra... Anything-- molding, texture, random paint apps, etc. It's going to look plain.
Yeah, and it looks terrible. Personally I preferred it when they took some liberties with the character models to make the figures actually interesting to look at (see MP-10).
99% backpack?? That's some fuzzy math. What does that even mean? 99%????

Obviously hyperbole but it is excessive.
I'll say I wish it didn't hang down so far, but even from a profile view it's not bad at all.

It really is. It's far too big, and probably means he has no torso articulation.
As far as the cockpit, that's a really well-done render, but it's still a render... Making a surface look transparent isn't super easy, so it's not going to look real.
I'm hoping it's highly saturated with yellow-orange color, so loosely semi-transparent.

No, as in the cockpit on the chest is quite obviously not the actual cockpit of the jet- it's a "fake part".
Overall, imo that's on point to where I see this being a pretty incredible figure.
This could be up there with MP-13 for me.

I mean you do you. Personally, I'm of the opinion that they should have just cribbed the basic transformation scheme of the MakeToys MP-alike Seeker, given it did NO fake parts, was extremely articulated, looked cartoon accurate without being dull and wasn't wearing a massive backpack.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077057)
Posted by Cyberpath on August 22nd, 2020 @ 1:22pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:And I don't know, there's a chance that the canopy might be "real."


I meant it's very difficult to make it look like real plastic; whether painted or especially colored transparent plastic, when it's a 2D CG render.
I don't know if it'll be able to open, but yeah, the real figure will have a real looking canopy.


I meant using the same piece in both robot and alt mode.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077061)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 22nd, 2020 @ 1:49pm CDT
Still waiting for the REAL toy to be revealed.

Because basic renders mean not much.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077069)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 22nd, 2020 @ 2:12pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:I mean you do you. Personally, I'm of the opinion that they should have just cribbed the basic transformation scheme of the MakeToys MP-alike Seeker, given it did NO fake parts, was extremely articulated, looked cartoon accurate without being dull and wasn't wearing a massive backpack.


Sure. And uh, yeah, you can do you.
I get this is an opinion, but in the grand scheme, that's really not that much on his back...
Whereas it's very clear you have bias based on at least one other figure, I'm looking at this for what it is on its own. If there's no waist articulation, yeah that sucks for being a MP figure.
But the overall appearance, especially from the front, is pretty dang good.
So I'm not sure if you want more molded details, or exaggerated proportions, or what.

I'm also looking at it from a standpoint of what Hastak's goal is with this line.
Not quite sure why it's such a bother if the cockpit/canopy is not the actual jet cockpit/canopy for the alt mode.
I'd be willing to bet if it was, the proportions of the robot would be off. And considering the look they're going for, as long as there aren't two separate visible pieces that are the "same thing", who cares? Unless you're into TF more for the engineering aspects.

Seems to be one of those things where I get, it's a large ticket toy, so you'd of course expect a lot.
But between a solid alt mode, a solid robot mode, a solid transformation, and a specific aesthetic, something has to give...
So when I consider all of these things and see a figure like this new Starscream,
based on appearance, I don't really understand what more people want.
Re: New Designs Sketches Revealed For Masterpiece Starscream Version 2 (2077104)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 22nd, 2020 @ 4:22pm CDT
I'm thinking there's going to be a lot of tiny pannels folding in and out to cover things up. I really hope this is a MP that I can have fun with.

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