New Galleries: Combiner Wars Legends Bombshell, Powerglide, Windcharger and Thundercracker

Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Would you say the same about the Jetfire mold?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Would you say the same about the Jetfire mold?

Nah, they had to heavily remold the thing pull that off. But the end result of that is cool, too.

But the Legends figure, that's straight up Guido Guidi Thundercracker.

I wonder if Takara is planning a premium 3 pack of the Insecticons. I could go for that once Kickback is released (assuming we are getting him too). I also wouldn't mind the Diaclone color scheme as well!

Seibertron wrote:I wonder if Takara is planning a premium 3 pack of the Insecticons. I could go for that once Kickback is released (assuming we are getting him too). I also wouldn't mind the Diaclone color scheme as well!

I like both of those ideas.

The Diaclone one especially could serve triple duty as Diaclone homages, e-HOBBY Insecticon clones, and SG Insecticons.

Aw, you didn't try to connect any of them to Prime's chest.

Also, in our first looks at Superion they had Powerglide stuck to the top of his gun. Is that actually possible or was it just more superglue like the rest of the combined figure?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Aw, you didn't try to connect any of them to Prime's chest.

Also, in our first looks at Superion they had Powerglide stuck to the top of his gun. Is that actually possible or was it just more superglue like the rest of the combined figure?

Emerje

I wasn't aware that any of the Legends Class figures truly could become part of Prime's chest other than Blackjack for Menasor.

Is Powerglide able to combine with Superion's gun? Not sure ... I can check it out though!

Superion's shield thing part of the gun has a 5mm port on the top, so you could probably stick Powerglide there... might try it later

EDIT: ok it works, but is too heavy for the elbows to hold out straight (at least on Skydive)

Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Cobalt Prime wrote:Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Well, Powerglide turns into a weapon, Thundercracker has his null rays, Bombshell has cannons on his fists, but Windcharger's got excuse (unless one counts his magnetic powers).

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobalt Prime wrote:Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Well, Powerglide turns into a weapon, Thundercracker has his null rays, Bombshell has cannons on his fists, but Windcharger's got excuse (unless one counts his magnetic powers).

Stranger is that Huffer and Blackjack both have weapons included. Weird.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Cobalt Prime wrote:Hmmm, why no weapons? They've got the 5 mm ports in their fists.

Well, Powerglide turns into a weapon, Thundercracker has his null rays, Bombshell has cannons on his fists, but Windcharger's got excuse (unless one counts his magnetic powers).

Stranger is that Huffer and Blackjack both have weapons included. Weird.

Well, Huffer's got Optimus's rifle since Optimus had two weapons. And Blackjack's weapon plays a part in his forming Menasor's chestplate.

Looking at Bombshell's fists and knees, does it look to anyone else that he was intended to be a targetmaster weapon of a gestalt?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Thundercracker is who that mold should have been all along.

Would you say the same about the Jetfire mold?

Nah, they had to heavily remold the thing pull that off. But the end result of that is cool, too.

But the Legends figure, that's straight up Guido Guidi Thundercracker.

So true! its an amazing rendition of the artwork. We have been accustomed to this design being Thundercracker for a little while now and frankly he owns this mold/form. Even the Jetfire retool looks great. I will certainly be picking up both.

padfoo wrote:So true! its an amazing rendition of the artwork. We have been accustomed to this design being Thundercracker for a little while now and frankly he owns this mold/form. Even the Jetfire retool looks great. I will certainly be picking up both.

Indeed. IDW has made its version of G1 Thundercracker so compelling that I want both the Legend and the Leader.

Honorable 'Cons are always cool.

Seibertron.com is proud to present our newest galleries: Combiner Wars Blackjack and Huffer!

Blackjack is an all new mold in the Legends Class size, meant to be incorporated into the combined form of Menasor, as the chest piece armor. (Because Motormaster shares his mold with Optimus Prime, Prime's chest can also use Blackjack.) Whether he's just a piece of chest armor, a really killer looking vehicle, or just a robot with a bad attitude, Blackjack is a little Decepticon packin' quite a punch.

His wave mate, Huffer, is a slight remold and extensive redeco of the Generations Legends Class Optimus Prime. Unfortunately, Huffer does not come with a partner robot like Optimus did. Both figures are currently shipping from overseas retailers, trickling into US e-tailers and should be at retail very shortly.

Will you be adding them to your collection? Check out their galleries by clicking on the images below, then come back to forums to share your thoughts with us!

Generations Combiner Wars Blackjack








Generations Combiner Wars Huffer









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I'm liking these little dudes!

Looks like Blackjack's combiner ports are the standard 5mm.

While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

Just curious how you get these so early ? Do you pay those crazy ebay prices from Chinese sellers with factory hook ups ?

Windsweeper wrote:While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

I thought I heard that the figure was originally supposed to be Runabout, (the head and chest do match him better), but was changed at the last minute. I'm glad they made him Blackjack, but yeah, I wish they would've went with a different face.

I'm still waiting for the first wave...

Windsweeper wrote:While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

Oddly enough, I like faceplates. Whether or not this was supposed to be Runamuck, I'm glad it's Blackjack instead.

I am really digging Blackjack. I'd still love to see a repaint in red as Chase...I'll probably keep saying that until it happens too!

Huffer is an easy pass for me...there is just something about that figure that I am not into. The PCC version still works great for my collection.

I'm totes getting Blackjack, but only to beef up the Decepticon Legends' ranks, since it's been found that Menasor's torso still looks like it has the car-chestplate-thing. That, and I'm hoping Blackjack's axe is capable of forming a proper hilt for Menasor's sword.

I was thinking about Huffer, but... I think if I see him in-stores, I'd probably get him. But, as it stands, I don't need a third version of this mold, even if it's the most adorable thing ever.

Mkall wrote:

Windsweeper wrote:While I like the size i hate Blackjack's head. I wish they used the Rodimus head. I hate faceplates.

Oddly enough, I like faceplates. Whether or not this was supposed to be Runamuck, I'm glad it's Blackjack instead.

As you can tell, I'm a faceplate kind of guy, myself.

rager is still my huffer representative in my C/G minobots line-up, but ill still get CW huffer since i never actually got the original legends prime. still curious about the mold.

If that truck grill on Huffer's back could have come up just a little higher, he could have had at least a nod to the original "hood."

As the first Leader class figures start appearing at retail, let us not forget about Generations Combiner Wars wave 1 in its entirety - specifically, the Voyager Optimus Prime (possibly) retool and redeco, leader of the Stunticons and main part of gestalt combiner Menasor: Motormaster!

The new Voyager figure is allegedly intended as the Decepticon counterpart to Superion in the upcoming IDW comics event Combiner Wars, though only one of the limbs is currently available for purchase, Dragstrip. It also comes with a gun and sword - which can be combined into a larger sword, new headsculpts for robot and gestalt mode, and is compatible with most Legend and Deluxe class figures from the line. Click on any image below for the full gallery!

Generations Combiner Wars Motormaster

i love his bot mode. combiner mode looks off, but im confident those legs can be tweaked to make him look less dwarf'y.

It would've been neat if they sculpted his feet to look like little truck halves.

I've been thinking about this pretty much since we first saw images: can Blackjack's weapon be used as a sword hilt for Menasor, or are there no attachment ports?

Motormaster's here this early? I thought he was going to come out later with the rest of the stunticons.

I think I may need to paint on that handlebar 'stache he has in Stunticon Job..

Va'al wrote:I've been thinking about this pretty much since we first saw images: can Blackjack's weapon be used as a sword hilt for Menasor, or are there no attachment ports?

I imagine that if there are none, it wouldn't be too hard to drill a 5mm hole into Blackjack's weapn there. Depending on how that works, that might decide whether or not I actually get him. What with the recent pics of MM in torso mode without him, I'll probably end up skipping him.

fantastic. i USED to like that head sculpt.

Well, I'm looking forward to Menasor, but if he doesn't look quite right then I think each Stunticon separately in robot mode will work just fine.

This mold is so much better as Motormaster than Prime. The lunky arms just don't well work on Prime.

Before someone points it out ... I mistransformed the backside panel. I forgot that it was supposed to attach to his back and I ended up doing it like a butt panel like Magnus instead. Oops!

Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

I got them from Entertainment Earth.

What is a Transformers team leader without its team, though, really? We've brought you Superion and Silverbolt, Optimus and Ultra Prime and we've caught a glimpse of Menasor with Motormaster - but to make sure we're fully up to speed, here are the galleries for the entire first wave of deluxes of Generations Combiner Wars!

In the galleries below you'll be able to take in the Aerialbot might of jets Skydive in his black and red deco with golden highlights, and of Firefly in red and white and teal, of the omnipresent Alpha Bravo, helicopter in orange, white, teal and black (potentially a Defensor limb, too) and the devious speed of yellow and purple Stunticon Dragstrip. Each with their own weapon, gestalt hand/foot and compatible with any Voyager torso. Click on any image to view the full works!


Generations Combiner Wars Dragstrip








Generations Combiner Wars Skydive








Generations Combiner Wars Firefly








Generations Combiner Wars Alpha Bravo

I notice the Hasbro jet limbs sport more G1 cartoon accurate decos on their wings. But Hasbro Silverbolt seems to sport a more vintage toy accurate deco. (gold stripe on plane and black shoulders) And with Takara, it seems to be the other way around. Takara's Silverbolt is more G1 cartoon accurate but the Takara jet limbs sport more vintage toy accurate decos on their wings. With that being said, Ill probably have no choice to buy both to get a completely cartoon accurate Superion. Stupid gift sets, wish they would just sell them separate.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:

I love that Face.

Rated X wrote:I notice the Hasbro jet limbs sport more G1 cartoon accurate decos on their wings.

Are you sure? Skydive had lightning bolts on his wings in the cartoon, which the Takara figure has while the Hasbro figure doesn't. Though the G1 toy had them too, this just makes Takara's version both show- and toy-accurate while Hasbro is accurate to neither.

And Fireflight's cartoon model used its toy's blue and yellow wing stripes, but made them thinner. Hasbro's Firefly uses the toy-accurate thick stripes while Takara's Firebolt uses the show-accurate thin stripes.

And though they're not shown in these galleries, Hasbro's Air Raid uses the G1 toy's silver/red/yellow wing stripes while Takara's Air Rider uses the show model's simiplified solid white stripes.

Takara's are definitely the more show-accurate in regards to wing decos.

Finally some decent pics of CW Motormaster in vehicle mode! And it seems that my fears were realized and that the official pics did not suffer from some strange photoshopping. The back part of his cab is a different color than the rest of him. Honestly, he'd look better if all of him was that color instead of what the majority of him is in that cheap grey plastic. The darker metallic grey is much nicer, but looks out of place used like this. Here's hoping the Takara version has a nicer, more cohesive color scheme because it looks like I'm going import when if comes to Combiner Wars.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:I notice the Hasbro jet limbs sport more G1 cartoon accurate decos on their wings.

Are you sure? Skydive had lightning bolts on his wings in the cartoon, which the Takara figure has while the Hasbro figure doesn't. Though the G1 toy had them too, this just makes Takara's version both show- and toy-accurate while Hasbro is accurate to neither.

And Fireflight's cartoon model used its toy's blue and yellow wing stripes, but made them thinner. Hasbro's Firefly uses the toy-accurate thick stripes while Takara's Firebolt uses the show-accurate thin stripes.

And though they're not shown in these galleries, Hasbro's Air Raid uses the G1 toy's silver/red/yellow wing stripes while Takara's Air Rider uses the show model's simiplified solid white stripes.

Takara's are definitely the more show-accurate in regards to wing decos.

Im kinda going off memory of the G1 cartoon. Its not easy to find images of the alt mode cartoon images online. I dont think skydive had any blue on his tail in the cartoon like the takara version has. But the toy had some blue on the tail. That was the biggest eye grabber that made me think the takara limbs were more toy accurate. Not sure about fireflight. Were still awaiting the hasbro slingshot images.

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Maybe the Tomy/Takara version will be anime accurate?

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Maybe the Tomy/Takara version will be anime accurate?

Oooh. That's a good point. It would be nice to see an anime accurate set of the Stunticons like they're doing with the Aerialbots. Oooh.

Autobot032 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Maybe the Tomy/Takara version will be anime accurate?

Oooh. That's a good point. It would be nice to see an anime accurate set of the Stunticons like they're doing with the Aerialbots. Oooh.

One more thing, is it okay to speculate that there will be a Wildrider version for the Tomy version instead of the pickup truck? Tomy remolded a face for Slingshot, but Wildrider, an entirely new mold?

I might be getting too far ahead of myself but since the issue of "anime" accuracy has been raised.............

fenrir72 wrote:One more thing, is it okay to speculate that there will be a Wildrider version for the Tomy version instead of the pickup truck? Tomy remolded a face for Slingshot, but Wildrider, an entirely new mold?

Nope, if Slingshot is any indication:

1) We have a TRU listing for him
2) He's a retool of an existing non-retooled mold (Skydive and Air Raid share parts)

... we may see Wildrider as a retool of either Breakdown or Dead End.

nice, I am surprised there were no shots of Menasor without Blackjack. I am interested in the "closed chest" detail