New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

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Here is something special regarding variants in the Beast Era.

For Takara's version of Tarantulus and Blackarachnia, there were variants that are noticeably different from the Hasbro versions. The key to knowing if the boxed toy is the variant or not is the green sticker on the front of the package. If it has the white and red sticker, it's the same as the Hasbro version. The green sticker versions are intended to be the more screen accurate versions, though that will be for you to judge when you will see the galleries.

Here is a breakdown of the differences between these variants and the regular Takara/Hasbro release:

Takara Blackarachnia's spider mode is very similar to her Hasbro version. The paint on her claws and chest is gold colored instead of a brownish/bronze color. The trigger button that was green on the Hasbro version is green on the Takara version. In robot mode, the differences stand out more. Takara's eyes and face plate uses the same gold color as her claws and chest, whereas the Hasbro version oddly uses white which isn't used anywhere else on that version. In addition, the green plastic is replaced with a grey plastic.

Takara's Tarantulas has less noticeable changes from the Hasbro version. It uses a grey plastic with a hint of brown or beige instead of the regular grey plastic on the Hasbro version. The green plastic is an almost olive green on the Hasbro version and the Takara version uses a more traditional brighter green. The eye visor on the Takara version uses a goldish colored paint instead of the black paint on the Hasbro version.


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Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia


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Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia

Transformers News: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia


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Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746125)
Posted by Rated X on December 6th, 2015 @ 9:40am CST
Looking at this vintage figure just makes me realize how much justice the new takara version has done for this character. I never realized she was just a repaint of tarulantas in the beast wars toy line. We are very fortunate to now be getting fembots with actual female bodies instead of repainted male bodies posing as females.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746128)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2015 @ 9:58am CST
Rated X wrote:Looking at this vintage figure just makes me realize how much justice the new takara version has done for this character. I never realized she was just a repaint of tarulantas in the beast wars toy line. We are very fortunate to now be getting fembots with actual female bodies instead of repainted male bodies posing as females.
However, it's because that she (and Tigatron) was a redeco that the cartoon was able to use her (and Tigatron) due to the limitations of CGI at the time. Had she and Tigatron been their own molds, Mainframe likely would have avoided using them and instead gone with two other redeco characters.

After all, Tigatron was originally going to be Wolfang, but since Tigatron's toy was a redeco of Cheetor, they chose Tigatron instead since it was far more feasible and economical to make a modified version of Cheetor's CGI model for Tigatron than to make a whole new model for Wolfang. The same would probably have applied for Blackarachnia as well since they took Tarantulas's CGI model and made it more, erm, "feminine" for her, instead of making a whole new model.

As for Blackarachnia's newer Legends toy, it is quite nice in its attempts to be show-accurate, yes, but due to it being a mold originally designed for a different version of the character, it contains much more inaccuracies to the BW cartoon model when compared to the original toy (which is understandable since the cartoon model was based on the original toy), and its unfortunately misassembled torso (which every Legends BA figure has) doesn't do it any favors either.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746131)
Posted by Powered Convoy on December 6th, 2015 @ 10:18am CST
william-james88 wrote:Here is something special regarding variants in the Beast Era.

For Takara's version of Tarantulus and Blackarachnia, there were variants that are noticeably different from the Hasbro versions. The key to knowing if the boxed toy is the variant or not is the green sticker on the front of the package. If it has the white and red sticker, it's the same as the Hasbro version. The green sticker versions are intended to be the more screen accurate versions, though that will be for you to judge when you will see the galleries.

Here is a breakdown of the differences between these variants and the regular Takara/Hasbro release:

Takara Blackarachnia's spider mode is very similar to her Hasbro version. The paint on her claws and chest is gold colored instead of a brownish/bronze color. The trigger button that was green on the Hasbro version is green on the Takara version. In robot mode, the differences stand out more. Takara's eyes and face plate uses the same gold color as her claws and chest, whereas the Hasbro version oddly uses white which isn't used anywhere else on that version. In addition, the green plastic is replaced with a grey plastic.

Takara's Tarantulas has less noticeable changes from the Hasbro version. It uses a grey plastic with a hint of brown or beige instead of the regular grey plastic on the Hasbro version. The green plastic is an almost olive green on the Hasbro version and the Takara version uses a more traditional brighter green. The eye visor on the Takara version uses a goldish colored paint instead of the black paint on the Hasbro version.


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Blackarchnia was one of the few original Japanese Beast Wars that only had one version.

She, Tigatron, Buzzsaw, Shadowpanther, Rhinox, and Wolfang didn't have a USA version and a Japanese version from Takara. Just the normal Takara ones. So the USA color Blackarachnia (along with the others I listed) didn't get a release from Takara like with the 2 versions of Tarantulas, Waspinator, Dinobot, Scorponok, Optimus Primal, and Cheetor.

Rhinox did have two versions though, one tan and one brown (both different than the USA version).

It's funny that even with these deluxes Hasbro and Takara were still gang molding parts as the parts that changed color on Tarantulas carried over to Waspinator and the same was true with Blackarachnia and Buzzsaw.

Randy
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746236)
Posted by Seibertron on December 6th, 2015 @ 8:50pm CST
Powered Convoy wrote:Blackarchnia was one of the few original Japanese Beast Wars that only had one version.

She, Tigatron, Buzzsaw, Shadowpanther, Rhinox, and Wolfang didn't have a USA version and a Japanese version from Takara. Just the normal Takara ones. So the USA color Blackarachnia (along with the others I listed) didn't get a release from Takara like with the 2 versions of Tarantulas, Waspinator, Dinobot, Scorponok, Optimus Primal, and Cheetor.

Rhinox did have two versions though, one tan and one brown (both different than the USA version).

It's funny that even with these deluxes Hasbro and Takara were still gang molding parts as the parts that changed color on Tarantulas carried over to Waspinator and the same was true with Blackarachnia and Buzzsaw.

Randy


What's different on Scorponok and Optimus Primal? I was under the understanding that they were the same even with the green stickers, aside from the various special editions of Optimus Primal such as the gray version.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746245)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 6th, 2015 @ 10:01pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
Powered Convoy wrote:Blackarchnia was one of the few original Japanese Beast Wars that only had one version.

She, Tigatron, Buzzsaw, Shadowpanther, Rhinox, and Wolfang didn't have a USA version and a Japanese version from Takara. Just the normal Takara ones. So the USA color Blackarachnia (along with the others I listed) didn't get a release from Takara like with the 2 versions of Tarantulas, Waspinator, Dinobot, Scorponok, Optimus Primal, and Cheetor.

Rhinox did have two versions though, one tan and one brown (both different than the USA version).

It's funny that even with these deluxes Hasbro and Takara were still gang molding parts as the parts that changed color on Tarantulas carried over to Waspinator and the same was true with Blackarachnia and Buzzsaw.

Randy


What's different on Scorponok and Optimus Primal? I was under the understanding that they were the same even with the green stickers, aside from the various special editions of Optimus Primal such as the gray version.
I think the special gray version of Primal is the Takara redeco that he's referring to.

As for Scorponok, Takara's second run version had the first run version's black plastic changed to charcoal gray, and the red parts were changed to a lighter, near orange shade.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746253)
Posted by Seibertron on December 6th, 2015 @ 10:39pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:As for Scorponok, Takara's second run version had the first run version's black plastic changed to charcoal gray, and the red parts were changed to a lighter, near orange shade.


Well, guess I'll find out in the next week! Just ordered the green sticker Scorponok from Mandarake.

http://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/deta ... 8&ref=list
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746315)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 7th, 2015 @ 9:17am CST
I'm not so sure that the green sticker is the determining factor between the first run Takara figures that are identical to the Hasbro versions and the second run Takara figures that were redecoed to be a little more show-accurate.

I say this for two reasons. First, after translating what the sticker says, it doesn't advertise the toys themselves, but the cartoon. The sticker basically says that the show is "The World's first!! 100% computer-generated transforming robot TV series animation!!" rather than referring to the toys' new decos.

And secondly, there's this pic of the Japanese "Brutal Showdown" two-pack containing Dinobot and Waspeeter (Waspinator), which has a green sticker on the box but the Dinobot figure included is definitely the Hasbro-colored first run pink w/ black stripes version instead of the more show-accurate second run peach w/ brown stripes version.
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What's more is that some of the toys had white and pink stickers instead of green ones, but which said the same thing as the green ones (and an additional notion that the toys came with Character Cards):
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Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746379)
Posted by Seibertron on December 7th, 2015 @ 3:59pm CST
Green sticker variants only apply to single packs, not to the versus packs, which unfortunately adds to the confusion about these.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746380)
Posted by Seibertron on December 7th, 2015 @ 4:01pm CST
Seibertron wrote:Green sticker variants only apply to single packs, not to the versus packs, which unfortunately adds to the confusion about these.



FYI ... I own all of the variants except I didn't know that both takara versions of rhinox was different as well so I bought the first release of him yesterday as well. Scorponok was the only one I haven't been able to get confirmation on.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746415)
Posted by william-james88 on December 7th, 2015 @ 7:31pm CST
Looking forward to proof on that scorponok.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746462)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 7th, 2015 @ 11:04pm CST
The only place I've seen in hand pics of the Takara second run Scorpos figure is on TFU.info, but the differences with the Hasbro-colored version seem to be so subtle that I can barely tell the difference from those pics.

That or the pics aren't in a good enough quality/lighting to really bring out the differences.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746470)
Posted by Seibertron on December 7th, 2015 @ 11:19pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:The only place I've seen in hand pics of the Takara second run Scorpos figure is on TFU.info, but the differences with the Hasbro-colored version seem to be so subtle that I can barely tell the difference from those pics.

That or the pics aren't in a good enough quality/lighting to really bring out the differences.

Where do you see the pics of the Takara variant on tfu.info? Nevermind ... saw them on the page, just overlooked them because they look the same.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746472)
Posted by Seibertron on December 7th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CST
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:The only place I've seen in hand pics of the Takara second run Scorpos figure is on TFU.info, but the differences with the Hasbro-colored version seem to be so subtle that I can barely tell the difference from those pics.

That or the pics aren't in a good enough quality/lighting to really bring out the differences.

Where do you see the pics of the Takara variant on tfu.info? Nevermind ... saw them on the page, just overlooked them because they look the same.


Upon further inspection with my gallery of Scorponok in comparison to the pics that they have posted on tfu.info, it seems like they might have the pictures mixed up for the Japanese variant with the regular Hasbro version. Scorponok's claws are a bluish gray translucent plastic but they're showing the gray plastic for the Hasbro version. Guess I'll get to find out soon!
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746475)
Posted by william-james88 on December 7th, 2015 @ 11:31pm CST
Yeah, these two look quite different in colour, especially on the head:

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Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1746756)
Posted by Powered Convoy on December 9th, 2015 @ 7:31am CST
I have both Scorponoks. The 2nd version is a grayish purple color instead of black. I don't recall there being any difference in the reds though.

Scorponok is near impossible to tell which is which in the packaging as the colors are pretty similar.

I still have my Scorponok, but the Japanese one's tail broke.

Randy
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1747490)
Posted by Seibertron on December 12th, 2015 @ 12:59pm CST
Powered Convoy wrote:I have both Scorponoks. The 2nd version is a grayish purple color instead of black. I don't recall there being any difference in the reds though.

Scorponok is near impossible to tell which is which in the packaging as the colors are pretty similar.

I still have my Scorponok, but the Japanese one's tail broke.

Randy


Any chance you can show us what they look like side-by-side? I just got the Japanese one with the green sticker. It's different but more like "factory run" different. The US one is a dark black and the Japanese one that I just got today is a lighter black. It's possible the translucent plastic used for the legs is a different shade as well but it's very subtle if it is different at all. The red plastic all seems the same.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1749111)
Posted by Seibertron on December 19th, 2015 @ 11:23pm CST
Powered Convoy wrote:I have both Scorponoks. The 2nd version is a grayish purple color instead of black. I don't recall there being any difference in the reds though.

Scorponok is near impossible to tell which is which in the packaging as the colors are pretty similar.

I still have my Scorponok, but the Japanese one's tail broke.

Randy


I'm glad you said that about the grayish purple color. Upon closer inspection with the more white lights that I use for my gallery setup, the Takara Scorponok that I recently purchased is indeed a different color! I swear the translucent plastic used for his legs and claws are also a more bluish color but I can only tell when I hold them in front of the light, but it could have more to do with different factory runs or just how translucent the plastic is. Or it could be my imagination. Either way, the "black" plastic is definitely a different color which you can see in the pictures below!

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Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1749114)
Posted by william-james88 on December 20th, 2015 @ 12:28am CST
Is your new scorponok also with the green sticker? Because if so, that grey colour continues the tradition of green stickers being a "better" attempt at screen accuracy.
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1749115)
Posted by Seibertron on December 20th, 2015 @ 12:46am CST
william-james88 wrote:Is your new scorponok also with the green sticker? Because if so, that grey colour continues the tradition of green stickers being a "better" attempt at screen accuracy.


It's a green sticker version. The green stickers are, for the most part, the "better" attempts which only applies to single packed versions of the toys. The only ones I'm aware of that this applies to are Cheetor, Dinobot, Rhinox (though both Takara versions are different from the Hasbro version and from each other), Tarantulas, Blackarachnia (both Takara versions are the same, but is different from Hasbro), and Scorponok. Not sure about Waspinator and Buzzsaw yet. To the best of my knowledge, Ultra Class Megatron and Optimus Primal are the same (with the exceptions of all of the different versions of Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal).
Re: New Galleries: Takara Beast Wars D-4 Tarantulas and D-8 Blackarachnia (1749116)
Posted by Seibertron on December 20th, 2015 @ 12:51am CST
Seibertron wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Is your new scorponok also with the green sticker? Because if so, that grey colour continues the tradition of green stickers being a "better" attempt at screen accuracy.


It's a green sticker version. The green stickers are, for the most part, the "better" attempts which only applies to single packed versions of the toys. The only ones I'm aware of that this applies to are Cheetor, Dinobot, Rhinox (though both Takara versions are different from the Hasbro version and from each other), Tarantulas, Blackarachnia (both Takara versions are the same, but is different from Hasbro), and Scorponok. Not sure about Waspinator and Buzzsaw yet. To the best of my knowledge, Ultra Class Megatron and Optimus Primal are the same (with the exceptions of all of the different versions of Beast Convoy/Optimus Primal).


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