New Images and Video Review of Generations Selects Hubcap
Friday, June 19th, 2020 8:57am CDT
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That's not all though, as these images were taken from a brand new video review of Hubcap! The reviewer was Jon Toys Reviews on YouTube and we've included the review for you below to check out.
Hubcap is a new redeco of Earthrise Cliffjumper sporting a new head.
Will this be your first chance at the Cliffjumper mold? Has Cliffjumper made such an impact on you that you want to track down Hubcap? Or are you just wanting a new representation of this old minibot? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
Credit(s): Autobase Aichi blog, Jon Toy Reviews on YouTube
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Posted by Skritz on June 19th, 2020 @ 9:41am CDT
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Posted by TF-fan kev777 on June 19th, 2020 @ 9:52am CDT
Posted by leokearon on June 19th, 2020 @ 10:32am CDT
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on June 19th, 2020 @ 10:52am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 19th, 2020 @ 11:01am CDT
Skritz wrote:Still a bit shocked this isn't Bumblebee...but Hubcap.
We've known all along that hasbro wasn't gonna use the same exact mold for both Bee and Cliff, they said that when Cliff was first revealed.
Posted by kirbenvost on June 19th, 2020 @ 3:29pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 19th, 2020 @ 3:39pm CDT
leokearon wrote:Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class
The Deluxe Selects price is the same as Deluxe retail price. The figure is way better than Scout/Legends class, much more complex engineering-wise, it belongs at a Deluxe price point despite being a short figure.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 3:56pm CDT
Emerje wrote:leokearon wrote:Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class
The Deluxe Selects price is the same as Deluxe retail price. The figure is way better than Scout/Legends class, much more complex engineering-wise, it belongs at a Deluxe price point despite being a short figure.
Emerje
I wish people would stop using height to judge size class.
Posted by o.supreme on June 19th, 2020 @ 4:00pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I wish people would stop using height to judge size class.
It takes time, even I have been guilty at times, and fall back into that mode occasionally. Has there been a universally accepted "standard" of what designates a particular price point, or class? I've seen people talk about mass and/or parts count before, but this is a niche argument that needs to be made far more mainstream if this is the case.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 4:07pm CDT
Posted by Flashwave on June 19th, 2020 @ 4:56pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I wish people would stop using height to judge size class.
It takes time, even I have been guilty at times, and fall back into that mode occasionally. Has there been a universally accepted "standard" of what designates a particular price point, or class? I've seen people talk about mass and/or parts count before, but this is a niche argument that needs to be made far more mainstream if this is the case.
That has always been the case as far back as I can remember, parts and materials costs. That's why we never got Breakdown in Transformers Prime. Only, it used to be that the budget was locked down to per figure, with each toy getting an equal part of the budget for the wave. In Energon, Hasbro told us that we had a choice of 3 of the Combiners with two seperate limb molds each or 2 combiners with 3 limb sets and thry went woth more characters. The argument of "size" comes from toys all roughly having the same amount of mass as each other given that they have the same materials cap, (and Hasbto has never been forthcoming about what that cap is) and as materials got more expensive, figures got smaller, but smaller proportunate to their own wave. It was not until recently when Hasbro removed the "per figure" budget cap and allowed for less complex figures to share excess parts hudget with other, more complex figures of the same price point. And thats how we get exampmes of Cliffjumper alongside guys like Hoist or Siege Itonhide.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 5:03pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on June 19th, 2020 @ 5:36pm CDT
All the legends class cars from Prime Wars had basically the same transformation: fall on their face, tuck in their arms, then flip back their legs. Maybe fold down a hood. Then rinse and repeat. Cliffjumper is complex enough it takes a moment to remember what to do if I haven't messed with him in a while. And the partsforming gives him a shield and a massive cannon or two pistols. The Legends class figures I have did not come with any accessories.ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.
Posted by Flashwave on June 19th, 2020 @ 6:42pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.
That's exactly the point though, in some ways Cliff jumpers more complex than hoist, even though voice is twice the size
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 19th, 2020 @ 6:44pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Isn't Cliffjumper more complex then those whose size he relates to though? All the reports I've read that while not 'Deluxe' height he feels more like a deluxe in hand.
That's exactly the point though, in some ways Cliff jumpers more complex than hoist, even though voice is twice the size
Ah I see! I thought you were arguing the opposite

Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 19th, 2020 @ 7:02pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on June 19th, 2020 @ 8:18pm CDT
leokearon wrote:Hubcap was my first TF and and new version would be cool. But I'll probably pass sinc eit is likely they will charge Deluxe Selects money for a scout class
I'm the same. Only picked up cliff jumper because of a discount. In hand, he still doesn't feel like a deluxe (other than his joints) but it really wouldn't considering deluxe classics cliff jumper and comparing it to rts windcharger that was legends price that has some clever engineering/play (better ankle tilt and feet by far).
Maybe earth rise cliff jumper/hubcap could have been legends price with ball joints but I won't pretend to understand Hasbros pricing/production or laughable excuses made for it but people pay the same price for a 50g bag of chips as a 100g bag of chips

Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on June 20th, 2020 @ 12:20am CDT
2. Ball joints are too feeble for the C.O.M.B.A.T. system. They just can't take the weight as well. Especially not ball-joint elbows and hips.
3. Cliffjumper has the mass of a Deluxe (which kiiiiinda undercuts what you said about 50g vs. 100g bags of chips), and comes with accessories - which he wouldn't if he'd been made as a Legends-class.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 20th, 2020 @ 12:31am CDT
Okay, that's a bit uncalled for. You made your points, isn't that enough?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. The Legends/neo-Scout size class is on hiatus because of Micromasters occupying the price point
2. Ball joints are too feeble for the C.O.M.B.A.T. system.
3. Cliffjumper has the mass of a Deluxe (Get this through your smegging heads already people), and comes with accessories - which he wouldn't if he'd been made as a Legends-class. So blackeyedprime, you can take your comment about 50g vs. 100g chip bags and shove it up your exhaust port.