New Images of Masterpiece MP46 Blackwidow Beast Wars AKA Blackarachnia
Monday, July 22nd, 2019 10:44AM CDT
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It appears a wise decision to focus on her robot mode as there has been quite a bit of hubbub about her beast mode. While her beast mode may be lacking in some respects, it's hard to deny that Masterpiece engineering, style, and detail have struck a home run with this anthropomorphized arachnid in her robot mode.
These also give us a great perspective on how she stacks up to the leaders of both the deplorable Predacons and the mighty Maximals. Check 'em out and let us know what you think in the forums. And as always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!
From TakaraTomy:
"We are accepting reservations for Beast Wars's "Black Widow", where Ryoka Inoki was in charge of the voice. We had Convoy and Destron cooperate to convey a sense of size (´-` )"
Link to TakaraTomy Mall for preorders: TakaraTomy Mall.
The first two images are from TakaraTomy, the additional images are from our fellow Seibertronian Racer Cheetor.
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Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 22nd, 2019 @ 12:06pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on July 22nd, 2019 @ 12:15pm CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Your mom is immature *snickers immaturely*
Posted by PrinterModeLaserbeak on July 22nd, 2019 @ 12:22pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 22nd, 2019 @ 12:57pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Your mom is immature *snickers immaturely*
But his mom probably doesn't throw out casual racial slurs.
Posted by Evil Eye on July 22nd, 2019 @ 1:27pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Your mom is immature *snickers immaturely*
But his mom probably doesn't throw out casual racial slurs.
Oh, lighten up for pete's sake.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 22nd, 2019 @ 2:31pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Your mom is immature *snickers immaturely*
But his mom probably doesn't throw out casual racial slurs.
Oh, lighten up for pete's sake.
Admittedly, I could have been more polite about pointing it out, as it was probably an honest mistake by Nemesis Maximo.
On the other hand, if I had been more polite, I might have missed out on the sense of validation that inevitably comes with triggering thin-skinned right-wingers.
Posted by Stargrave on July 22nd, 2019 @ 2:39pm CDT
Ah hopefully the satisfaction is a worthwhile exchange, any time I’ve tried with just go back to lacquering their windowless vans in bumper stickers quoting genesis, they just keep on keeping on.
Posted by Evil Eye on July 22nd, 2019 @ 2:57pm CDT
Dr. Caelus wrote:Black Hat wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Your mom is immature *snickers immaturely*
But his mom probably doesn't throw out casual racial slurs.
Oh, lighten up for pete's sake.
Admittedly, I could have been more polite about pointing it out, as it was probably an honest mistake by Nemesis Maximo.
On the other hand, if I had been more polite, I might have missed out on the sense of validation that inevitably comes with triggering thin-skinned right-wingers.
Nobody's triggered, just fed up with your constant negativity and obsessive need to "call out" everyone you see doing something you don't like.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 22nd, 2019 @ 2:59pm CDT
Black Hat wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Black Hat wrote:Dr. Caelus wrote:Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Not like there's anything down there (we've all seen her CG animation model).Nemesis Maximo wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:That first picture... I can spot references to Break and Heinrad... Who else?
I’m more worried about that last pic. GOD but Japs are a Pervy bunch.
Primal's death stare says different...
I think that annoyed stare is more because of the immature behavior.
Your mom is immature *snickers immaturely*
But his mom probably doesn't throw out casual racial slurs.
Oh, lighten up for pete's sake.
Admittedly, I could have been more polite about pointing it out, as it was probably an honest mistake by Nemesis Maximo.
On the other hand, if I had been more polite, I might have missed out on the sense of validation that inevitably comes with triggering thin-skinned right-wingers.
Nobody's triggered, just fed up with your constant negativity and obsessive need to "call out" everyone you see doing something you don't like.
Oh, lighten up for Pete's sake.
Posted by Evil Eye on July 22nd, 2019 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 22nd, 2019 @ 4:23pm CDT
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 22nd, 2019 @ 5:00pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Dear lord guys, give it all a rest. Japan was having some fun for sure bit its no reason to be disrespectful to oneanother.
That exchange wasn't about the pictures, it was about the language used in the comments on the pictures.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#J
I remember a very long time ago, when I was much younger and, well, stupid, arguing that "Jap" is not offensive because it's just truncating the word "Japanese". On this very board. That was insensitive towards the history of the word and the personal experiences of some board members, and it was wrong. Fortunately, another user rightly (if not politely) corrected me back then, and the staff seemed to be in agreement that that sort of language was not permitted. I could have reported NM's post to the staff, but as he was probably simply unaware of the term's historical usage, it didn't seem appropriate to involve staff and get him stuck with an official warning. I could have written a lengthy treatise about why ethnic slurs shouldn't be used, and why "Jap" is a slur, but that sort of thing usually invites a "TLDR" and/or people getting upset about me being a preachy academic. A snarky comment seemed sufficient to get the point across, and it seemed like a proportional response to the situation.
Posted by SpikeyTigertron on July 22nd, 2019 @ 11:19pm CDT
Do wonder if they'll do Rat Trap, and how much he'll be similar to his T30 version.
Posted by william-james88 on August 6th, 2019 @ 9:26pm CDT
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on August 6th, 2019 @ 10:19pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 27th, 2019 @ 1:01pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Here ya go Willy!
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07RRMR34R/ ... 82_TE_item?tag=seibertron00-22&
I realize I never did respond. I meant to say thanks, as I did order it
Posted by william-james88 on October 27th, 2019 @ 1:08pm CDT
Here are all the images we have from the event so far. Some coming from Andrew, who sent them in, and others found on the Planet Iacon Facebook page.
Posted by Seibertron on October 27th, 2019 @ 2:20pm CDT
In this picture, it looks like her spider mode could potentially be a Titan Class Headmaster. I can't unsee it!
Posted by ZeroWolf on October 27th, 2019 @ 2:52pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 27th, 2019 @ 3:16pm CDT
One of the mode must make some compromises to accommodate the other and it's normal that here, it's the bot who won.
Posted by aronjlove on October 27th, 2019 @ 3:41pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Thank you for this GIF! I see some mass-shifting shenanigans going on with her "hands" as they become the spider-mode's mandibles. I've started watching Beast Wars again and I've never noticed this during the show.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 27th, 2019 @ 4:50pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 27th, 2019 @ 5:03pm CDT
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:She'll be going into bot mode rather quickly when I get her. And honestly, considering the cheats BW did? Spider-mode looks about as good as we'll get.
"Cheats" is an understatement.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 27th, 2019 @ 8:18pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on October 27th, 2019 @ 9:09pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
Thank you for this GIF! I see some mass-shifting shenanigans going on with her "hands" as they become the spider-mode's mandibles. I've started watching Beast Wars again and I've never noticed this during the show.
and the abdomen seem to pop out of nowhere going into spider mode
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 27th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 28th, 2019 @ 8:46am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:She'll be going into bot mode rather quickly when I get her. And honestly, considering the cheats BW did? Spider-mode looks about as good as we'll get.
"Cheats" is an understatement.
It was the best word to come to mind at the moment, but yeah. There's some serious reality-warping with Blackarachnia in the show.
Posted by haldand on October 28th, 2019 @ 10:59am CDT
In my humble opinion, it is better to just focus on making a good toy with good articulation and a good transformation, and let the show focus on being the show.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2019 @ 11:02am CDT
Posted by aronjlove on October 28th, 2019 @ 11:27am CDT
haldand wrote:I see a lot of comments about mass shifting or reality warping... and that is exactly why I tend to dislike the toys that make an extreme effort to be "show accurate". Something gets sacrificed somewhere to pull it off, from fake wheels and pretend windshields to overly complicated (and often therefore fragile) transformations, we usually end up with a less than perfect toy. Often one mode looks great, while the other is less so.
In my humble opinion, it is better to just focus on making a good toy with good articulation and a good transformation, and let the show focus on being the show.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
I think a combination of both of your ideas. These are toys and ultimately going to be purchased by kids as well so the 'toy' component or 'fun' factor should be the primary concern above accuracy. And if the cartoons are still to be used as commercials for the toys then the developers of the toon should work hand in hand with the toy developers so accuracy is a given.
That being said, this Blackarachnia (Blackwidow) looks pretty amazeballs all things considered.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 28th, 2019 @ 11:43am CDT
Alternately:-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
Posted by BluePhirePB on October 28th, 2019 @ 1:11pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2019 @ 2:01pm CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!
I agree 100%.
Posted by william-james88 on October 28th, 2019 @ 5:05pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:I'd have to see comparison pics to when it was mistransformed, but it still looks pretty rough to me in spider mode. The robot mode look insanely amazing, but at the cost of making the beast mode look pretty bad.
In this picture, it looks like her spider mode could potentially be a Titan Class Headmaster. I can't unsee it!
Here are pics of it not being properly put together in beast mode. You can see the back of the spider just panels hanging loose.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... led/43292/
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 28th, 2019 @ 10:16pm CDT
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on October 29th, 2019 @ 9:20am CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did a pretty good job for beast mode and amazing for bot mode!
Thirded. It's really a damned good toy overall. I can't wait to get her in-hand.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 29th, 2019 @ 11:00am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Alternately:-Kanrabat- wrote:Or, if the TOY$ would be designed first and the show be based on them. Best example,Cybertron / Galaxy Force
From what angle?
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 29th, 2019 @ 11:46am CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Posted by Mykltron on October 29th, 2019 @ 3:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:our best look yet at the spider beast mode, especially the back, so you can see how clean it can be when transformed properly.
Yes indeed: not clean at all.
Posted by BluePhirePB on October 30th, 2019 @ 1:56pm CDT
Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
Posted by haldand on October 30th, 2019 @ 2:12pm CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
Posted by Sabrblade on October 30th, 2019 @ 2:18pm CDT
I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.haldand wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.AllNewSuperRobot wrote:BluePhirePB wrote:All things considered, they did an amazing bot mode!
Agreed.
I'll say again what I said when the first pictures dropped. If they had simply bothered to conceal the gold of her bot mode legs in Beast Mode, she would have looked fantastic in both modes. As it stands, they clearly concentrated their efforts on the Bot Mode, whereas the other Beast War MP's to date seem to have had an equal level of focus.
It is concerning for the other Predacons. Aside from Terrorsaur, they are all bugs of various types. All traditionally didn't follow the overall shellformer aesthetic of the Maximals. This should be even more the case in Masterpiece. I dread to think how Waspinator or Inferno could look at this point.
I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 30th, 2019 @ 4:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.
Indeed. As much as I'd love to see TM Rhinox or Cybershark (in any form) in the MP line, it is extremely doubtful.
BluePhirePB wrote:Maybe we'll see another Maximal next! Tigertron would be a likely candidate given the slightly larger but similar transformation as Cheetor.
Rumoured to be Rattrap next.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 30th, 2019 @ 5:17pm CDT
Gelshark, however, would have a decent chance, but probably not for a good number of years (or via a fan-determined event like the poll that brought about Star Saber).AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I think we can pretty much guarantee that no Transmetals who were not in the show will be getting Masterpieces.
Indeed. As much as I'd love to see TM Rhinox or Cybershark (in any form) in the MP line, it is extremely doubtful.
While never called a Transmetal, Gelshark and the other four Destrongers were initially marketed as a breed of Predacon called "Metal Beasts".
Posted by william-james88 on October 30th, 2019 @ 6:15pm CDT
haldand wrote:I'm hoping for an Airazor. In fact, an updated Transmetal Airazor would be sweet!
You wont see that within the next decade.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 11th, 2019 @ 11:07pm CST
https://www.facebook.com/VectorSigma.LatAm/posts/1459463847526471
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 12th, 2019 @ 4:22am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:07am CST
Original image of Spider mode
Spider mode properly transformed in the back
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:15am CST
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on November 12th, 2019 @ 11:50am CST
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Man I can’t wait to have this!
Same. She is looking really good!