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New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz

Transformers News: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz

Monday, December 27th, 2010 4:05PM CST

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If you're in the mood to double dip with the new Jazz mold, then Takara's here to help. Thanks to ACToys.net member Mold, we have comparison images of the 2011 release Takara United Autobot Jazz, and Hasbro's newly released Generations Special Ops Jazz. Takara's features painted wheel rims, a painted grill, back headlights, a prominent Autobot symbol, brighter white plastic and more metallic paint. Check out the images below!

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Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162548)
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:07pm CST
United version definitely looks better, but not for the price.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162549)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:13pm CST
Jazz is one of my favorite Autobots, so I may splurge for him.

But only for him and Scourge, I think.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162556)
Posted by frogbat on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:32pm CST
the takara version has more paint apps esp in car mold... the robot mold only misses the grill paint it seems

thought there might be a few more apps on the legs
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162557)
Posted by Kibble on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:34pm CST
Alt mode looks a hundred times better. Bot mode is comparable...only difference that really jumps out is the insignia. If I displayed in alt mode, this would be a must buy, but since it spends most of its time in bot mode, I think I'll have to wait for a sale if I'm to jump on it.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162558)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:38pm CST
You'll note the white is also different on the United version.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162559)
Posted by Galvatron X on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:41pm CST
Damn, this looks WAY better than ours! Actual taillights too. Wahoo!

The Autobot symbol on the front really adds to it too.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162562)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:54pm CST
Nice... but I've already got the Hasbro one. So pass.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162578)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 27th, 2010 @ 5:53pm CST
You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162584)
Posted by quickmixed on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:02pm CST
I've been searching online and at retail for one for the past month now, and now I reckon I can wait a bit longer.

I will definitely drop the coin for Takara. When compared to Takaras release the hasbro jazz just looks lazy. Seriously, no tail lights? Unpainted rims and grills i can live with but considering they painted the lights for recent releases like blurr, drift and even Turbo Tacks I think its just a very lazy effort on hasbros behalf.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162585)
Posted by jlogano20 on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CST
SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER!!
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162586)
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CST
I just commented on another topic how this line will be the hardest when it comes to choosing between Hasbro and Takara figures. It would appear this is the exception to the rule. Takara all the way!
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162588)
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:09pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.


I fully expect prices to be higher for Takara... which is why 90% of the time, I go for Hasbro.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162590)
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:23pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.


I'm just saying that it's not that much better to me that I will mind having the Hasbro one. A wee bit of paint on the back of the car that you don't see in robot mode (which is how I'll have him for the most part) and an Autobot logo I can stick on myself if I really want to? Other than that it's just a little bit whiter, a little bit more solidly painted.

Great if you've got the money or are a huge fan of the character (I'm personally holding out for United Kup because I don't like things about the Hasbro version) but the differences aren't enough for me to justify paying nearly double (or well, more than that thanks to the recent sales). It depends on the characters.

I could have got a Classics Megatron for £15 or something during one a sale one time, but even that cheapness wasn't doing it for me, so I waited til I could afford the Henkei one and am glad I did. You do get what you pay for, but sometimes you don't want a steak, sometimes you want a burger.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162600)
Posted by TCracker on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:34pm CST
So far, the colors in United had been a hit and miss. While Jazz and Tracks looks awesome, I am still unable to get past thru Grapple's yellow head (even it is anime accurate) and Lugnut's purple. At this stance i prefer Hasbro's over the United version. I have yet to see the rest of the United iterations, besides the one we have already seen in the Hobby Mag scans. I guess it is a balance to see whichever one that floats your boat. With that all said and done, I am just super glad that we are getting them toys. Who would have thought - Wreck Gar? That is most awesome.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162604)
Posted by Counterpunch on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:40pm CST
Makes the Hasbro version look amateurish.

Well met Takara. When it comes to the original Transformers characters, this is well worth the price.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162607)
Posted by Vicalliose on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:42pm CST
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already (probably has), but has anyone else noticed that the variation of RTS Jazz that came with the gun stored in vehicle mode has his arms painted white over black plastic instead of just being made of white plastic? The RTS Jazz shown in this pic is clearly not like that.

Er yeah, I wanted to pick up a second Jazz for numerous reasons anyway, so this United fig just gives me a second option.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162609)
Posted by Naked Magnus on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:43pm CST
Keep in mind that Reprolabels will release some stickers that will make the Hasbro one have some of the same bling that the Takara one has. They have done a great job in the past and that is why I typically buy from Hasbro. Although, some horrible paint jobs just can't be fixed with stickers (Smokescreen anyone?). In that case, I pay extra for the Takara version, but that has been rare.

Hasbro Jazz purchased from retail store plus Reprolabel stickers will cost you around $20.

Takara purchased online (assuming you don't have a friend in Japan) with shipping will cost you about $43.

That is over double the cost for a marginal improvement.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162611)
Posted by bvzxa on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:44pm CST
craggy wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.


I'm just saying that it's not that much better to me that I will mind having the Hasbro one. A wee bit of paint on the back of the car that you don't see in robot mode (which is how I'll have him for the most part) and an Autobot logo I can stick on myself if I really want to? Other than that it's just a little bit whiter, a little bit more solidly painted.

Great if you've got the money or are a huge fan of the character (I'm personally holding out for United Kup because I don't like things about the Hasbro version) but the differences aren't enough for me to justify paying nearly double (or well, more than that thanks to the recent sales). It depends on the characters.

I could have got a Classics Megatron for £15 or something during one a sale one time, but even that cheapness wasn't doing it for me, so I waited til I could afford the Henkei one and am glad I did. You do get what you pay for, but sometimes you don't want a steak, sometimes you want a burger.


Sorry dude this is more than just a little bit moreof paint for this release, this is just much better Jazz. the "wee" made a big difference as he looks more like the G1 Jazz with the paint apps.

I don't like every paint job for United this time around, I don't like Straxus, but Drift looks better than his Generations counterpart.

This also happened with Prowl. The Universe Prowl had the "rubbing of the paint" problem, compared to the Henkei version which did not.

Price isn't a bad thing, you get what you pay for. The United Jazz makes RTS Jazz look inferior. I don't even want HTS Jazz anymore.

On the flipside I hate Henkei Thundercracker because the QC just flew out the window. Henkei Starscream is also hit and miss some got a decent figure some got two left arms or two right legs Henkei Ironhide suffers from the same paint rubbing in the same place as my Universe Ironhde. But this United Jazz, which is an important character in the G1 Series and movie, is hands down the best. Even Target G1 Movie Jazz sported stark white paint and all.

Come' on Hasbro stop with the beige white syndrome.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162618)
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:55pm CST
see, I don't think Jazz is all that important. He's just the "cool guy" that everyone noticed while Prowl was trying to do his job. ;)
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162620)
Posted by jamiko on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:58pm CST
United Jazz looks WAY better, however I'm just gonna get the Hasbro one and paint it myself. Some silver, red, and black paint and he's good to go. Save some money and have some fun, can't get better then that. :grin:
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162622)
Posted by Counterpunch on December 27th, 2010 @ 7:01pm CST
Vicalliose wrote:I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already (probably has), but has anyone else noticed that the variation of RTS Jazz that came with the gun stored in vehicle mode has his arms painted white over black plastic instead of just being made of white plastic? The RTS Jazz shown in this pic is clearly not like that.


That's a really good point...
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162624)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 27th, 2010 @ 7:04pm CST
Everyone just wants to pile on Prowl the "prick" :lol: seriously, what's not to like about Jazz? Great looking visor, characterization (Scotman.....bless your soul...simply the best)plus he got to do Roll Call just before a big battle.

Anyway, let me just repeat, you get what you pay for, we may not like it but this freakin' hobby of ours really sucks on our pockets.

I may primarily be concentrating on vintage G1 but among United I'm getting

Jazz,Wreck-gar,G2 Convoy,Wheeljack and Scourge. Tracks got sold out :BOOM: on online stores :BANG_HEAD: so he ain't in my list and I expect to have to fork out a lot for them buggers.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162631)
Posted by Swiftpaw on December 27th, 2010 @ 7:42pm CST
This is another good example of where the Takara one has a few nice extras, and while it may be better it's not necessarily worth the price it would take to import.... Granted as Jazz is like my -favorite-, I may, but it's not gonna be big on my list as I am happy with the Hasbro version as is.

Maybe him and Scourge, and grab some cheaper US Scourges for Sweep armybuilding.

Hell, I'm happy just finally having an up to date G1 style Jazz. Awesome Christmas is Awesome.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162639)
Posted by Oilspill on December 27th, 2010 @ 8:07pm CST
That settles it, love those extra paint apps on the rear of the car, rims, grill and even looks like his abdomen might be painted. It'll be United Jazz & Tracks & Lugnut for me. Probably Hasbro for the rest (except maybe Grapple, I'm undecided on him).
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162644)
Posted by Stockade on December 27th, 2010 @ 8:12pm CST
Hell Yeah! 100 times better than Hasblo's version! im getting this one and many others.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162674)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:10pm CST
Takara version is not that much better. For 3 times the price you get a painted grill, tail lights, autobot sign, rims and back window. I am not sure the white is any different because the one in the picture has yellowed a little. My Jazz is much whiter than that. Hasbro wins this one here in the U.S.A.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162677)
Posted by sabrigami on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:27pm CST
Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way :P This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162680)
Posted by rpetras on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:37pm CST
craggy wrote:United version definitely looks better, but not for the price.



My thought EXACTLY.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162686)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:48pm CST
sabrigami wrote:Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way :P This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.


Ours are not that off white. The Hasbro Jazz in the pic and Drift in the other thread have yellowed. MY Drift and Jazz are just as white as the new Takara ones in the pic.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162688)
Posted by El Duque on December 27th, 2010 @ 10:01pm CST
Takara version does look better, but I can add all those paint apps and the faction symbol myself and not have to spend x3 the price of the RtS version I already have.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162692)
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 10:11pm CST
El Duque wrote:Takara version does look better, but I can add all those paint apps and the faction symbol myself and not have to spend x3 the price of the RtS version I already have.

exactly! or wait for the Reprolabels kit, which might also have the Martini logos.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162713)
Posted by Blurrz on December 27th, 2010 @ 11:39pm CST
LOST Cybertronian wrote:
sabrigami wrote:Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way :P This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.


Ours are not that off white. The Hasbro Jazz in the pic and Drift in the other thread have yellowed. MY Drift and Jazz are just as white as the new Takara ones in the pic.


Nonsense

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Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162715)
Posted by Rated X on December 27th, 2010 @ 11:41pm CST
The white is nicer but the other paint apps look like stuff Reprolabels will take care of in a few months.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162783)
Posted by Flux Convoy on December 28th, 2010 @ 6:29am CST
Looks great, he's one of the new molds I'm really excited for. There's a bunch of em this time around. This one tops most to me though.
:BOT:
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162801)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 28th, 2010 @ 7:09am CST
Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10

Take your pick.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162824)
Posted by Optimus1138 on December 28th, 2010 @ 8:28am CST
United looks much better, but still not nearly enough to justify the higher price. Although the United version has the taillights and rear window painted, is a better white, and has partially chromed silver instead of grey for the feet and torso area, there is still one thing that should be different: The stripes. Both versions have the simple blue stripes with a red stripe down the center, which is inaccurate to actual Martini Racing cars and therefore to the original Jazz toy. Hopefully Reprolabels will make better stripes, as well as stickers for the taillights, rear windows, and some sponsors.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162844)
Posted by Solrac333 on December 28th, 2010 @ 9:18am CST
Glad I held out on the Hasbro version. Will get THIS!
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162858)
Posted by Stockade on December 28th, 2010 @ 10:19am CST
Takara is just like KFC they know how to do Transformers right!
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162861)
Posted by Stockade on December 28th, 2010 @ 10:28am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10

Take your pick.



I wouldnt be using the domestic RTS price $10 as an average, cause im sure after the christmas mayhem the price can and will go up and depending on location and dept stores? Like for example the Kohls dept stores Transformers on average are about $14.00, unless you go to walmart or Target then prices will be about $12 to $13 but again depends where you live and what your tax rate is and besides, if you really want a Takara im sure theres other small vendors out there thats not raping the collectors like BBTS and TFsource is, all you have to do is research and google is your best friend. Trust me, i found some vendors that treats me really good and because i buy from them and not the big guys.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162868)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 28th, 2010 @ 11:03am CST
Stockade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10

Take your pick.



I wouldnt be using the domestic RTS price $10 as an average, cause im sure after the christmas mayhem the price can and will go up and depending on location and dept stores? Like for example the Kohls dept stores Transformers on average are about $14.00, unless you go to walmart or Target then prices will be about $12 to $13 but again depends where you live and what your tax rate is and besides, if you really want a Takara im sure theres other small vendors out there thats not raping the collectors like BBTS and TFsource is, all you have to do is research and google is your best friend. Trust me, i found some vendors that treats me really good and because i buy from them and not the big guys.


My point was that you can either go the cheap, more available way with less detailing, or the slightly more detailed, "perfect" way and pay through the nose with a good chance of missing out. To me the extra detail isn't worth the extra $20 or more.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162961)
Posted by Praxus Prime on December 28th, 2010 @ 5:38pm CST
This reminds me of those Clorox "which sock is whiter" commercials. My answer? The one on the left is definitely better!
By the way, would anyone else like to see a Ricochet re-color along with Nightstick?
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162964)
Posted by Optimum Supreme on December 28th, 2010 @ 5:48pm CST
Looks a little better, but not enough that I'll lose any sleep over it.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1162974)
Posted by Rodimus the Prime on December 28th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CST
The Takara version looks awesome. Pure awesome! I'm definitely going to buy one!
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1163025)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 28th, 2010 @ 9:40pm CST
US$ 10 domestic + US$ 10 to 15 reprolabels upgrade = US$ 25.00 (?) so factor in United and you get...?
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1163056)
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 28th, 2010 @ 10:47pm CST
The white doesn't look bad on the RTS version until you compare it side by side with the United version. The painted rims look excellent though.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1163089)
Posted by Rodimus the Prime on December 29th, 2010 @ 1:11am CST
I still can't get over the difference! The completely white plastic makes all the other colours 'pop' nicely, and the autobot symbol on the chest/ hood really gives it a sense of completion. I love that Takara painted the midsection in metallic silver as well. Very nice homage to the original Jazz! This figure is easily going to be the gem of my Classics collection!
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1163151)
Posted by munkimus prime on December 29th, 2010 @ 8:57am CST
Praxus Prime wrote:This reminds me of those Clorox "which sock is whiter" commercials. My answer? The one on the left is definitely better!
By the way, would anyone else like to see a Ricochet re-color along with Nightstick?


A Ricochet repaint would be awesome.

Wait a tick, why is he called Autobot Jazz here, surely he should be called Meister. Name doesn't really matter though since he's Jazz to me anyway.

This is a massive improvement over the RTS Jazz and I may pick it up unless Reprolabels release something. Well atleast the white is nicer on this one
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1163152)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 29th, 2010 @ 9:07am CST
munkimus prime wrote:Wait a tick, why is he called Autobot Jazz here, surely he should be called Meister. Name doesn't really matter though since he's Jazz to me anyway.


TakaraTomy has shied away from the Japanese names ever since the Movie and Animated lines. So no more Convoys.
Re: New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz (1163157)
Posted by Rodimus Minor on December 29th, 2010 @ 9:18am CST
Call him what ever you want he is Jazz to me he looks awesome how come Hasblow couldn't paint the rear off the car.

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