New Images of United UN-12 Autobot Jazz
Monday, December 27th, 2010 4:05PM CST
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Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:07pm CST
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:13pm CST
But only for him and Scourge, I think.
Posted by frogbat on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:32pm CST
thought there might be a few more apps on the legs
Posted by Kibble on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:34pm CST
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:38pm CST
Posted by Galvatron X on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:41pm CST
The Autobot symbol on the front really adds to it too.
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 27th, 2010 @ 4:54pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on December 27th, 2010 @ 5:53pm CST
Posted by quickmixed on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:02pm CST
I will definitely drop the coin for Takara. When compared to Takaras release the hasbro jazz just looks lazy. Seriously, no tail lights? Unpainted rims and grills i can live with but considering they painted the lights for recent releases like blurr, drift and even Turbo Tacks I think its just a very lazy effort on hasbros behalf.
Posted by jlogano20 on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CST
Posted by Sodan-1 on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CST
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:09pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.
I fully expect prices to be higher for Takara... which is why 90% of the time, I go for Hasbro.
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:23pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.
I'm just saying that it's not that much better to me that I will mind having the Hasbro one. A wee bit of paint on the back of the car that you don't see in robot mode (which is how I'll have him for the most part) and an Autobot logo I can stick on myself if I really want to? Other than that it's just a little bit whiter, a little bit more solidly painted.
Great if you've got the money or are a huge fan of the character (I'm personally holding out for United Kup because I don't like things about the Hasbro version) but the differences aren't enough for me to justify paying nearly double (or well, more than that thanks to the recent sales). It depends on the characters.
I could have got a Classics Megatron for £15 or something during one a sale one time, but even that cheapness wasn't doing it for me, so I waited til I could afford the Henkei one and am glad I did. You do get what you pay for, but sometimes you don't want a steak, sometimes you want a burger.
Posted by TCracker on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:34pm CST
Posted by Counterpunch on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:40pm CST
Well met Takara. When it comes to the original Transformers characters, this is well worth the price.
Posted by Vicalliose on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:42pm CST
Er yeah, I wanted to pick up a second Jazz for numerous reasons anyway, so this United fig just gives me a second option.
Posted by Naked Magnus on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:43pm CST
Hasbro Jazz purchased from retail store plus Reprolabel stickers will cost you around $20.
Takara purchased online (assuming you don't have a friend in Japan) with shipping will cost you about $43.
That is over double the cost for a marginal improvement.
Posted by bvzxa on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:44pm CST
craggy wrote:fenrir72 wrote:You get what you pay for. Extra apps, higher price..........plus factor in the import fees. I find it unbelievable that people will expect to have the price range at the same level as the domestic release with all the added bling.
I'm just saying that it's not that much better to me that I will mind having the Hasbro one. A wee bit of paint on the back of the car that you don't see in robot mode (which is how I'll have him for the most part) and an Autobot logo I can stick on myself if I really want to? Other than that it's just a little bit whiter, a little bit more solidly painted.
Great if you've got the money or are a huge fan of the character (I'm personally holding out for United Kup because I don't like things about the Hasbro version) but the differences aren't enough for me to justify paying nearly double (or well, more than that thanks to the recent sales). It depends on the characters.
I could have got a Classics Megatron for £15 or something during one a sale one time, but even that cheapness wasn't doing it for me, so I waited til I could afford the Henkei one and am glad I did. You do get what you pay for, but sometimes you don't want a steak, sometimes you want a burger.
Sorry dude this is more than just a little bit moreof paint for this release, this is just much better Jazz. the "wee" made a big difference as he looks more like the G1 Jazz with the paint apps.
I don't like every paint job for United this time around, I don't like Straxus, but Drift looks better than his Generations counterpart.
This also happened with Prowl. The Universe Prowl had the "rubbing of the paint" problem, compared to the Henkei version which did not.
Price isn't a bad thing, you get what you pay for. The United Jazz makes RTS Jazz look inferior. I don't even want HTS Jazz anymore.
On the flipside I hate Henkei Thundercracker because the QC just flew out the window. Henkei Starscream is also hit and miss some got a decent figure some got two left arms or two right legs Henkei Ironhide suffers from the same paint rubbing in the same place as my Universe Ironhde. But this United Jazz, which is an important character in the G1 Series and movie, is hands down the best. Even Target G1 Movie Jazz sported stark white paint and all.
Come' on Hasbro stop with the beige white syndrome.
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:55pm CST
Posted by jamiko on December 27th, 2010 @ 6:58pm CST
Posted by Counterpunch on December 27th, 2010 @ 7:01pm CST
Vicalliose wrote:I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already (probably has), but has anyone else noticed that the variation of RTS Jazz that came with the gun stored in vehicle mode has his arms painted white over black plastic instead of just being made of white plastic? The RTS Jazz shown in this pic is clearly not like that.
That's a really good point...
Posted by fenrir72 on December 27th, 2010 @ 7:04pm CST
Anyway, let me just repeat, you get what you pay for, we may not like it but this freakin' hobby of ours really sucks on our pockets.
I may primarily be concentrating on vintage G1 but among United I'm getting
Jazz,Wreck-gar,G2 Convoy,Wheeljack and Scourge. Tracks got sold out on online stores so he ain't in my list and I expect to have to fork out a lot for them buggers.
Posted by Swiftpaw on December 27th, 2010 @ 7:42pm CST
Maybe him and Scourge, and grab some cheaper US Scourges for Sweep armybuilding.
Hell, I'm happy just finally having an up to date G1 style Jazz. Awesome Christmas is Awesome.
Posted by Oilspill on December 27th, 2010 @ 8:07pm CST
Posted by Stockade on December 27th, 2010 @ 8:12pm CST
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:10pm CST
Posted by sabrigami on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:27pm CST
Posted by rpetras on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:37pm CST
craggy wrote:United version definitely looks better, but not for the price.
My thought EXACTLY.
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on December 27th, 2010 @ 9:48pm CST
sabrigami wrote:Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.
Ours are not that off white. The Hasbro Jazz in the pic and Drift in the other thread have yellowed. MY Drift and Jazz are just as white as the new Takara ones in the pic.
Posted by El Duque on December 27th, 2010 @ 10:01pm CST
Posted by craggy on December 27th, 2010 @ 10:11pm CST
El Duque wrote:Takara version does look better, but I can add all those paint apps and the faction symbol myself and not have to spend x3 the price of the RtS version I already have.
exactly! or wait for the Reprolabels kit, which might also have the Martini logos.
Posted by Blurrz on December 27th, 2010 @ 11:39pm CST
LOST Cybertronian wrote:sabrigami wrote:Now that Jazz is smoking! the color apps are way better than the harbro ones. Too bad they cost so much, that and I already have a Hasbro one on the way This looks great though. Now that I've seen the recent pics of this guy and Tak. Drift too, I never really noticed how off white our versions are. kinda weird.
Ours are not that off white. The Hasbro Jazz in the pic and Drift in the other thread have yellowed. MY Drift and Jazz are just as white as the new Takara ones in the pic.
Nonsense
Posted by Rated X on December 27th, 2010 @ 11:41pm CST
Posted by Flux Convoy on December 28th, 2010 @ 6:29am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 28th, 2010 @ 7:09am CST
Domestic price RtS: $10
Take your pick.
Posted by Optimus1138 on December 28th, 2010 @ 8:28am CST
Posted by Solrac333 on December 28th, 2010 @ 9:18am CST
Posted by Stockade on December 28th, 2010 @ 10:19am CST
Posted by Stockade on December 28th, 2010 @ 10:28am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10
Take your pick.
I wouldnt be using the domestic RTS price $10 as an average, cause im sure after the christmas mayhem the price can and will go up and depending on location and dept stores? Like for example the Kohls dept stores Transformers on average are about $14.00, unless you go to walmart or Target then prices will be about $12 to $13 but again depends where you live and what your tax rate is and besides, if you really want a Takara im sure theres other small vendors out there thats not raping the collectors like BBTS and TFsource is, all you have to do is research and google is your best friend. Trust me, i found some vendors that treats me really good and because i buy from them and not the big guys.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 28th, 2010 @ 11:03am CST
Stockade wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Domestic price United: $30
Domestic price RtS: $10
Take your pick.
I wouldnt be using the domestic RTS price $10 as an average, cause im sure after the christmas mayhem the price can and will go up and depending on location and dept stores? Like for example the Kohls dept stores Transformers on average are about $14.00, unless you go to walmart or Target then prices will be about $12 to $13 but again depends where you live and what your tax rate is and besides, if you really want a Takara im sure theres other small vendors out there thats not raping the collectors like BBTS and TFsource is, all you have to do is research and google is your best friend. Trust me, i found some vendors that treats me really good and because i buy from them and not the big guys.
My point was that you can either go the cheap, more available way with less detailing, or the slightly more detailed, "perfect" way and pay through the nose with a good chance of missing out. To me the extra detail isn't worth the extra $20 or more.
Posted by Praxus Prime on December 28th, 2010 @ 5:38pm CST
By the way, would anyone else like to see a Ricochet re-color along with Nightstick?
Posted by Optimum Supreme on December 28th, 2010 @ 5:48pm CST
Posted by Rodimus the Prime on December 28th, 2010 @ 6:05pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on December 28th, 2010 @ 9:40pm CST
Posted by Doctor McGrath on December 28th, 2010 @ 10:47pm CST
Posted by Rodimus the Prime on December 29th, 2010 @ 1:11am CST
Posted by munkimus prime on December 29th, 2010 @ 8:57am CST
Praxus Prime wrote:This reminds me of those Clorox "which sock is whiter" commercials. My answer? The one on the left is definitely better!
By the way, would anyone else like to see a Ricochet re-color along with Nightstick?
A Ricochet repaint would be awesome.
Wait a tick, why is he called Autobot Jazz here, surely he should be called Meister. Name doesn't really matter though since he's Jazz to me anyway.
This is a massive improvement over the RTS Jazz and I may pick it up unless Reprolabels release something. Well atleast the white is nicer on this one
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 29th, 2010 @ 9:07am CST
munkimus prime wrote:Wait a tick, why is he called Autobot Jazz here, surely he should be called Meister. Name doesn't really matter though since he's Jazz to me anyway.
TakaraTomy has shied away from the Japanese names ever since the Movie and Animated lines. So no more Convoys.
Posted by Rodimus Minor on December 29th, 2010 @ 9:18am CST