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Sabrblade wrote:Torox and Headstrong are totally jamming out to their boombox ghetto blasters.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Madeus Prime wrote:Please tell me someone will sell that Onyx alone...

Lucky Logician wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Please tell me someone will sell that Onyx alone...

I'm hoping that Hasbro will be selling Onyx separately somehow. This is an expensive set to buy just to complete the Prime Master set.

Sabrblade wrote:And, sheesh, somebody give that Predaking a sandwich!

william-james88 wrote:The Rhino and Bull have terrible alt modes. Look way worse than the G1 version, they just look like boxes.

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The Rhino and Bull have terrible alt modes. Look way worse than the G1 version, they just look like boxes.

I agree these are just bricks in the very definition of that word, why did they not simply go with the CW system and let a proper titan be this year's titan?

In my opinion Divebomb is the only individual of the Predacon set that looks good. (Both bot and alt mode categories)

william-james88 wrote:The Rhino and Bull have terrible alt modes. Look way worse than the G1 version, they just look like boxes.

Deadput wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Please tell me someone will sell that Onyx alone...

I'm hoping that Hasbro will be selling Onyx separately somehow. This is an expensive set to buy just to complete the Prime Master set.

I can guarantee one hundred percent they will not sell Onyx by himself, it's like one of those 300 dollar lego sets that has a really cool exclusive figure.

Hotconvoy wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Please tell me someone will sell that Onyx alone...

I'm hoping that Hasbro will be selling Onyx separately somehow. This is an expensive set to buy just to complete the Prime Master set.

I can guarantee one hundred percent they will not sell Onyx by himself, it's like one of those 300 dollar lego sets that has a really cool exclusive figure.

Ohhhhhh i hate those sooooooo much!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Hotconvoy wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Please tell me someone will sell that Onyx alone...

I'm hoping that Hasbro will be selling Onyx separately somehow. This is an expensive set to buy just to complete the Prime Master set.

I can guarantee one hundred percent they will not sell Onyx by himself, it's like one of those 300 dollar lego sets that has a really cool exclusive figure.

Ohhhhhh i hate those sooooooo much!

It's a special edition version, onyx will be getting a retail release, it'll just have different colors

Hellscream9999 wrote:It's a special edition version, onyx will be getting a retail release, it'll just have different colors

Deadput wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:It's a special edition version, onyx will be getting a retail release, it'll just have different colors

And this info comes from where?

RodimusRex wrote:Normally, I'd agree but I half suspect TRU's bankruptcy led to Power of the Primes getting scuttled two waves ahead of plans. Maybe I'm wrong. My sense is that Hasbro had one set of plans early in 2017. By 2nd quarter 2017, I think they scrapped a subscription service to feed TRU exclusives like Arcee and Grotusque. And by late 2017, they realized they were going to take a big hit and probably pushed up IDW's reboot and PotP's conclusion to try to get around to a new entry point for adult collectors.

Hotconvoy wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Lucky Logician wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:Please tell me someone will sell that Onyx alone...

I'm hoping that Hasbro will be selling Onyx separately somehow. This is an expensive set to buy just to complete the Prime Master set.

I can guarantee one hundred percent they will not sell Onyx by himself, it's like one of those 300 dollar lego sets that has a really cool exclusive figure.

Ohhhhhh i hate those sooooooo much!

Emerje wrote:See my post above, plus the Predaking box says it's a special edition right on it. The box also refers to it as the Onyx Matrix on the back.

Emerje

RodimusRex wrote:Normally, I'd agree but I half suspect TRU's bankruptcy led to Power of the Primes getting scuttled two waves ahead of plans. Maybe I'm wrong. My sense is that Hasbro had one set of plans early in 2017. By 2nd quarter 2017, I think they scrapped a subscription service to feed TRU exclusives like Arcee and Grotusque. And by late 2017, they realized they were going to take a big hit and probably pushed up IDW's reboot and PotP's conclusion to try to get around to a new entry point for adult collectors.

Deadput wrote:

Emerje wrote:See my post above, plus the Predaking box says it's a special edition right on it. The box also refers to it as the Onyx Matrix on the back.

Emerje

Your post wasn't around at the time I was making the comment.

Still I bet that it's going to be sold as an exclusive with like Wreck Gar or Nemesis.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Maybe because everything about them looks terrible... From their hideously, over-blocky beast modes, to their hampered bot modes, all the way to the anorexic combined mode (which somehow manages to look even worse now in that three-quarter view)

Razorclaw shoulda been a chunky ultra/leader class figure

Deadput wrote:

william-james88 wrote:The Rhino and Bull have terrible alt modes. Look way worse than the G1 version, they just look like boxes.

I agree these are just bricks in the very definition of that word, why did they not simply go with the CW system and let a proper titan be this year's titan?

In my opinion Divebomb is the only individual of the Predacon set that looks good. (Both bot and alt mode categories)

Emerje wrote:1) Hasbro has to plan this stuff out in advance, not just the ending of PotP, but also the start of the War for Cybertron trilogy. We didn't know just how bad things were for TRU until this year, there just isn't that kind of time to change plans so rapidly. They were caught off guard by TRU, otherwise they wouldn't have offered them Studio Series Thundercracker.

Emerje wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Emerje wrote:See my post above, plus the Predaking box says it's a special edition right on it. The box also refers to it as the Onyx Matrix on the back.

Emerje

Your post wasn't around at the time I was making the comment.

Still I bet that it's going to be sold as an exclusive with like Wreck Gar or Nemesis.

Oh, I know, I just wanted to make sure you saw it. Sometimes when I make a post I don't realize someone slipped a post in above mine.

Wreck-gar will probably also come with a repaint like Blastoff, it's done to tie them into Power of the Primes. Nemesis Prime is already part of PotP so he probably wont come with one. Predaking comes with Onyx Prime because of narrative apparently since he himself isn't an exclusive figure, unlike the other three.

Emerje

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Emerje wrote:1) Hasbro has to plan this stuff out in advance, not just the ending of PotP, but also the start of the War for Cybertron trilogy. We didn't know just how bad things were for TRU until this year, there just isn't that kind of time to change plans so rapidly. They were caught off guard by TRU, otherwise they wouldn't have offered them Studio Series Thundercracker.

This comment had me thinking. Has anyone who has found Studio Series Thundercracker found any other Studio Series at TRU? When I found mine, they only had Thundercracker, not any of the others. I wonder if Hasbro found out about TRU closing early enough in the distribution to divert all the non exclusive Studio Series toys to other stores. For PotP, I haven't seen anything past wave 1 at any of the TRU's near me, so I'm thinking Hasbro must have stopped all new shipments about a month or 2 ago, except for the exclusive.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Maybe because everything about them looks terrible... From their hideously, over-blocky beast modes, to their hampered bot modes, all the way to the anorexic combined mode (which somehow manages to look even worse now in that three-quarter view)

Razorclaw shoulda been a chunky ultra/leader class figure

Galactic Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Maybe because everything about them looks terrible... From their hideously, over-blocky beast modes, to their hampered bot modes, all the way to the anorexic combined mode (which somehow manages to look even worse now in that three-quarter view)

Razorclaw shoulda been a chunky ultra/leader class figure

There's nothing wrong with these, they look great. People are too f-in picky. You all expect 3rd party looks for Hasbro pricing.

Emerje wrote:That's very possible. Studio Series is a street dated toy line, something TRU had always stuck to (aside from some rogue stores where people reported managers overriding the dates in previous lines) so Hasbro should have had time to cancel the shipment or get them back. They would have been contractually obligated to send them Thundercracker, even if the stores had already closed, it would have been up to TRU to decide to send them back or try to sell them and they chose to sell them. I wish they would have sent them back, they probably would have ended up on HTS.

Emerje

Blitzwing is bae wrote:Prediking is beutiful!!!

Galactic Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Maybe because everything about them looks terrible... From their hideously, over-blocky beast modes, to their hampered bot modes, all the way to the anorexic combined mode (which somehow manages to look even worse now in that three-quarter view)

Razorclaw shoulda been a chunky ultra/leader class figure

There's nothing wrong with these, they look great. People are too f-in picky. You all expect 3rd party looks for Hasbro pricing.

o.supreme wrote:I'm not sure how you can tell just by looking at the PM itself what Pretender shell it could go with. Even with the ones I have, I would not have the mind to pair them up automatically with the shells the came with. I'm currently of the opinion that it will be exclusively sold with Predaking, but at the same time, I'd love to see a complete set of 12 (or 13...) PM's sold with Pretender Shells individually...

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Blitzwing is bae wrote:Prediking is beutiful!!!

Galactic Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Preadaking and the Predacons just keep looking better and better in these new promotional picks. I'm really hyped to pick this set up later this year. I honestly don't understand why some people are so unhappy with this.

Maybe because everything about them looks terrible... From their hideously, over-blocky beast modes, to their hampered bot modes, all the way to the anorexic combined mode (which somehow manages to look even worse now in that three-quarter view)

Razorclaw shoulda been a chunky ultra/leader class figure

There's nothing wrong with these, they look great. People are too f-in picky. You all expect 3rd party looks for Hasbro pricing.

All of that, plus nostalgia goggles. Seriously, take a look at the side-by-side comparisons shots of the G1 Predacons and Predaking compared with this modern redo. Anyone pretending the originals were somehow less blocky, better proportioned, or better sculpted, is lying to themselves because reality doesn't stack up to their unreasonable expectations. The ONLY thing the G1 figures were compared to these new figures is better armed.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'm not sure how you can tell just by looking at the PM itself what Pretender shell it could go with. Even with the ones I have, I would not have the mind to pair them up automatically with the shells the came with. I'm currently of the opinion that it will be exclusively sold with Predaking, but at the same time, I'd love to see a complete set of 12 (or 13...) PM's sold with Pretender Shells individually...

Prime Masters are primarily styled after the inner robot of the shell they come with, you can see that with Metalhawk, Cloudburst, Skullgrin, Submarauder and Octopunch. Their retools Landmine, Bludgeon (both from Metalhawk), Waverider (Cloudburst) and Bomb-Burst (Skullgrin) keep the chest of their progenitors at the very least.
Onyx Prime doesn't seem to be based on a Pretender from what I can tell, so chances are he has no shell to speak of, or it's a very obscure one. He may never have been meant for the regular Prime Master Class.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

o.supreme wrote:I'm not sure how you can tell just by looking at the PM itself what Pretender shell it could go with. Even with the ones I have, I would not have the mind to pair them up automatically with the shells the came with. I'm currently of the opinion that it will be exclusively sold with Predaking, but at the same time, I'd love to see a complete set of 12 (or 13...) PM's sold with Pretender Shells individually...

Prime Masters are primarily styled after the inner robot of the shell they come with, you can see that with Metalhawk, Cloudburst, Skullgrin, Submarauder and Octopunch. Their retools Landmine, Bludgeon (both from Metalhawk), Waverider (Cloudburst) and Bomb-Burst (Skullgrin) keep the chest of their progenitors at the very least.
Onyx Prime doesn't seem to be based on a Pretender from what I can tell, so chances are he has no shell to speak of, or it's a very obscure one. He may never have been meant for the regular Prime Master Class.

Onyx honestly looks like he was instead based directly off of the Binder of Revelation design for himself, Onyx Prime (hoofed feet, clawed hands, bird-mask head, multi-layered torso/shoulders with triangular features, etc.) instead of a preexisting Pretender's inner robot.