New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Wednesday, September 28th, 2016 9:40am CDT

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Red Alert is the first Masterpiece figure to get the "plus" treatment with Takara releasing a MP 14+ edition which is made to match the cartoon deco as close as possible. He is out now and several images have popped up all over facebook. Logan has sent several out way coming from Hobbybase, Photo vaut and UranusDD facebook pages. The ones from Uranusdd ofer a comparison with the initial Red Alert release. The change from white to grey paint is most apparent there and it gives us the best idea of how different both decos are. Which of you will be getting this new version, let us know!

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Transformers News: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison

Credit(s): uranusdd, photo vault and hobbybase


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Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829139)
Posted by hinomars19 on September 28th, 2016 @ 10:28am CDT
The only things that really catch my interest are the full black shoulders and the 'chief' on the side of the arm.

The grey legs are nice, but ultimately Red never stuck out in the 'toon for me much and I think the red legs on MP14 add more 'pop'. All the other deco choices on this 14+ just flatten the figure. I don't like this new trend of making MP's that look like PVC figures. :shock:
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829152)
Posted by Moonshot on September 28th, 2016 @ 11:28am CDT
Red Alert was awesome in the show and this hits every Sunbowish detail. IF I had the cash to collect masterpiece figures, this would be a must buy. I would be down for every Sunbow G1 + deco. Even the shade of colour of white looks better, much cooler.
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829160)
Posted by william-james88 on September 28th, 2016 @ 12:20pm CDT
Am I the only one who would have preferred a Toon deco rather than a toon accurate deco. I will explain. Instead of giving him the deco that he was in the toon in the Plus line, I would have preferred a deco that would make him look like he was in the cartoon. Kinda like this:

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So for isntance with red alert, his body would be grey but with some added darker grey highlights to mimic shadow:

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I mean if they are going for too accurate, why not go all out. I would buy the hell out of a line based on that kind of deco!
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829163)
Posted by Ironhidensh on September 28th, 2016 @ 12:27pm CDT
I would be all kinds of down for a cell shaded style of MP
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829167)
Posted by shajaki on September 28th, 2016 @ 12:37pm CDT
I've seen those kinds of customs. Pretty brilliant. But if it's that versus what the Plus line is doing, I'd go for the Plus.
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829171)
Posted by Cyberpath on September 28th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CDT
That customiser is clearly very talented, but tbh I don't like it.

Also, I don't see the point in painting them with fake shadows and highlights. The toys are actual objects, they have real shadows and highlights already..

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Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829231)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 28th, 2016 @ 6:25pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who would have preferred a Toon deco rather than a toon accurate deco. I will explain. Instead of giving him the deco that he was in the toon in the Plus line, I would have preferred a deco that would make him look like he was in the cartoon. Kinda like this:
Image

That is seriously gorgeous, and the appropriate kind of cartoon accurate; I'd go so far as to say that that would forever more be the definitive G1 Prime figure
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829235)
Posted by Kurona on September 28th, 2016 @ 6:39pm CDT
It looks like it would be kind of fun; but the problem with that sort of detailing and shading and such is that it'll only ever look good from that one angle in that one picture. It just wouldn't work in real life.
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829237)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 28th, 2016 @ 6:42pm CDT
Kurona wrote:It looks like it would be kind of fun; but the problem with that sort of detailing and shading and such is that it'll only ever look good from that one angle in that one picture. It just wouldn't work in real life.

The shading? possibly, but I like all the outlining too, that, I think is what really makes the figure pop ;)^
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829669)
Posted by Logan. on September 30th, 2016 @ 10:46am CDT
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829670)
Posted by Kurona on September 30th, 2016 @ 10:48am CDT
It's really jarring just how much bigger Ironhide/Ratchet are than all the other Autobot cars. Not sure if I like it.
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829673)
Posted by Logan. on September 30th, 2016 @ 10:57am CDT
Kurona wrote:It's really jarring just how much bigger Ironhide/Ratchet are than all the other Autobot cars. Not sure if I like it.


I agree^^

This is the official scale
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Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829674)
Posted by Kurona on September 30th, 2016 @ 11:17am CDT
Logan. wrote:
Kurona wrote:It's really jarring just how much bigger Ironhide/Ratchet are than all the other Autobot cars. Not sure if I like it.


I agree^^

This is the official scale
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This would also mean that Trailbreaker and Hoist would be the same size as Ironhide and Ratchet.
That's even weirder.

And the Insecticons just slightly taller than Bumblebee.

... actually if they're that small why haven't they been done by now? Surely that'd be pretty easy to pull off, especially since the animation models didn't stray very far from the toys unlike some other characters. I think the most you'd need to do is work out how Bombshell's chest changes colour, but even then I bet that could be done with a flip-panel like Road Rage's autobot badge.
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829676)
Posted by Cyberpath on September 30th, 2016 @ 11:33am CDT
Couldn't be happier with the MP scale so far. The vanette guys were always taller than the sports cars.

ratchet wheeljack.jpg


And love the Insecticon characters! There are already three different sets of third-party MP-Insecticons wannabes! Not that I'm rushing Takara. Gimme Megatron!
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829679)
Posted by Kurona on September 30th, 2016 @ 11:40am CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Couldn't be happier with the MP scale so far. The vanette guys were always taller than the sports cars.

ratchet wheeljack.jpg


And love the Insecticon characters! There are already three different sets of third-party MP-Insecticons wannabes! Not that I'm rushing Takara. Gimme Megatron!

Image

You okay there Ratchet
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829683)
Posted by fenrir72 on September 30th, 2016 @ 12:12pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Couldn't be happier with the MP scale so far. The vanette guys were always taller than the sports cars.

ratchet wheeljack.jpg


And love the Insecticon characters! There are already three different sets of third-party MP-Insecticons wannabes! Not that I'm rushing Takara. Gimme Megatron!


Yeh Megs! Megs really needs a decent update.
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829755)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 30th, 2016 @ 5:25pm CDT
Cyberpath wrote:Couldn't be happier with the MP scale so far. The vanette guys were always taller than the sports cars.
Yes, but look at those pictures you posted. Wheeljack comes right up to the middle of Ratchet's chest windshield in both of them.

Whereas the MPs of Wheeljack's height only just barely come up to the bottom edge of the Ironhide/Ratchet mold's chest windshield.

Image

It's understood that Ironhide, Ratchet, Trailbreaker, Hoist, Inferno, and Grapple were all the tallest of the Autobot Cars, but that much taller than the others?
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829831)
Posted by fenrir72 on October 1st, 2016 @ 4:23am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Couldn't be happier with the MP scale so far. The vanette guys were always taller than the sports cars.
Yes, but look at those pictures you posted. Wheeljack comes right up to the middle of Ratchet's chest windshield in both of them.

Whereas the MPs of Wheeljack's height only just barely come up to the bottom edge of the Ironhide/Ratchet mold's chest windshield.

Image

It's understood that Ironhide, Ratchet, Trailbreaker, Hoist, Inferno, and Grapple were all the tallest of the Autobot Cars, but that much taller than the others?


So you'd rather let them figs slip away because of a few millimeters based on the original animation scale which was so rife with so called errors? :???:
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829855)
Posted by Cyberpath on October 1st, 2016 @ 7:31am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Couldn't be happier with the MP scale so far. The vanette guys were always taller than the sports cars.
Yes, but look at those pictures you posted. Wheeljack comes right up to the middle of Ratchet's chest windshield in both of them.

Whereas the MPs of Wheeljack's height only just barely come up to the bottom edge of the Ironhide/Ratchet mold's chest windshield.

Image

It's understood that Ironhide, Ratchet, Trailbreaker, Hoist, Inferno, and Grapple were all the tallest of the Autobot Cars, but that much taller than the others?



Well, The Transformers was a hand-drawn animation, and by several animators, so the height differences varied. (And never in their wildest dreams did the animators expect anyone to analyse it 30 years later.)

It doesn't matter to me how many centimeters taller Ironhide was than the cars, only that he's taller. And shorter than Optimus Prime. Which he's been consistently shown to be, like you said.

(Optimus Prime > Ironhide > Sideswipe > Bumblebee.)

Also, many scenes were drawn in different perspectives from various angles, and at different distances from the "lens."

Like this re-creation:

Image


Didn't move the figures, just the camera.

Personally, the MP scale works brilliantly for me so far. And some millimeters here or there don't make much of a difference. (But just make MP Megatron the same hight as MP-10, Takara!)
Re: New In Hand Images of Masterpiece MP-14+ Red Alert with Comparison (1829881)
Posted by Cyberpath on October 1st, 2016 @ 10:40am CDT

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