New Pictures of TFSS 3.0 Nacelle and G2 Starscream

Seekers first, huh?

Have to say, these two were massive, solid "wins" for the club. Excellent choices. One pairs with G2 Ramjet (and the Botcon set). The other is a deep, deep, obscure, reference of one of the earliest G1 Transformers that was never released. Very pleased with these two.

Good thing his mold is worn out. How many "club exclusives" has this mold raked out of the fandom at $45 a pop? It is funny to me that they can take this mold, color it in any combination of colors, slap some half assed name on it, sell it to people at a premium, and people will actually spend their hard earned cash in it.

Silliness...........

gothsaurus wrote:Have to say, these two were massive, solid "wins" for the club. Excellent choices. One pairs with G2 Ramjet (and the Botcon set). The other is a deep, deep, obscure, reference of one of the earliest G1 Transformers that was never released. Very pleased with these two.

Gotta agree. If this is the last use of the mould it's a good way to go out.

It costs more per toy to make a handful than hundreds of thousands. Exclusives are always going to cost more. It's just comes with the territory of getting rare, limited edition stuff.

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

I want both, but I'm more excited about Nacelle. Such a fun character.

G2 Starscream, however... That spawn of a glitch!

I mostly want it because the colors look good on the mold.

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype, and in fiction it's explained he upgraded his body. Simple.

gothsaurus wrote:It costs more per toy to make a handful than hundreds of thousands. Exclusives are always going to cost more. It's just comes with the territory of getting rare, limited edition stuff.

That would be logical if this mold had not paid for itself after Starscreams release.

A batch of 5000 toys from an existing mold is not going to cost much. I would estimate that one of these can be created from beginning to end for about $2 each. The rest is so you can pay for the CEO's multimillion dollar bonus, the enormous dividends, and the profit demands of a worldwide company in general.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype.

My point is that these people can slap any silly name on these "exclusives" , charge 3-5x more than retail, and people buy it. I don't get it. They are not even characters that are relevant to anything whatsoever, except their highway robbery of the masses. I like Transformers as much as the next guy, but that is a complete waste of money.

shockblast2 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype.

My point is that these people can slap any silly name on these "exclusives" , charge 3-5x more than retail, and people buy it. I don't get it. They are not even characters that are relevant to anything whatsoever, except their highway robbery of the masses. I like Transformers as much as the next guy, but that is a complete waste of money.

It's what they're based on what gets people, not necessarily the characterisation.

Nacelle was relevant to the TCC story he appeared in. Twas one of its scene-stealing characters, even.

shockblast2 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype.

My point is that these people can slap any silly name on these "exclusives" , charge 3-5x more than retail, and people buy it. I don't get it. They are not even characters that are relevant to anything whatsoever, except their highway robbery of the masses. I like Transformers as much as the next guy, but that is a complete waste of money.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people would argue paying a lot for ANY toy .... or just buying toys period after a certain age is a waste of money.

Yeah, I think the real point is the club is trying hard to put out some obscure, cool stuff...plus some fan-favorite toys that Hasbro dropped the ball on. (Usually for some legit reason... a new series is coming out soon, or because they can't have too many items on the shelf the same color or vehicle.)

I think this 3.0 round has some really thoughtful ideas in it, and I'm excited about 'em.

So don't harsh my buzz, man!

Best mold ever ! Screw the hating ass s**t I want a Redwing. I would drop 100 for an official Redwing any day cause I CAN...

so if the classics seeker mold is (insert furmanism here)

what mold will they use now?

thy could possibly use the Energon Starscream mold it has potential it had only been used for said character, sky-quake , lyzack , leozack , and that is about it to my knowledge has yet to be used as obscure g1 characters / original g1 seekers , that would be inserted in timelines issues ....

Agreed on buying a Red Wing. Hopefully they can swing that for a store exclusive or something next year. Though I hope and pray it wouldn't be $100.

Rated X wrote:Best mold ever ! Screw the hating ass s**t I want a Redwing. I would drop 100 for an official Redwing any day cause I CAN...

Werd.

oh. The mold isn't destroyed, they just said they were kinda done with it. They could still make a Red Wing if fan support dictated.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Different strokes for different folks. Some people would argue paying a lot for ANY toy .... or just buying toys period after a certain age is a waste of money.

This

Originally, I was least excited for these Seekers... but I've come to adore the Botcon 2007 Thrust mold too much to pile any hate on Nacelle, and G2 Starscream is just nice looking. Sigh.

I really wish the Club would create box sets for the Subscription figures. Sure, it was a new and experimental concept in the beginning, but now that the Subscription Service is established and successful, I think they have the latitude to experiment a bit.

These two are my most anticipated TFSS 3.0 figures. And probably some of the most anticipated figures for all of 2015.

Nacelle came out great despite being an idea I wasn't too thrilled about when I first heard it. His characterization and other details to make him stand out are really great.

G2 Starscream here looks fantastic and does a great job of mirroring the original details.

Speaking of Starscream, this G2 version is littered with paint.
Granted some of this might be stickers but he has:

-painted face
-painted eyes
-painted torso
-painted pectorals
-painted pectoral sides
-painted (or stickers) on feet
-painted knees
-painted knee vents
-painted shins
-painted missiles (they're white painted purple)
-painted missile launcher tops (they're light gray plastic)
-painted missile launcher centers (they're light gray plastic)
-painted vertical stabilizers (white plastic with gray and detailing)
-painted horizontal stabilizers (white plastic with gray and detailing)
-painted wings (they're white plastic)
-painted (or stickers) camouflage on wings
-painted symbols on wings
-painted wing detail on body
-painted sticker detail on backs of shoulder pylons
-painted sticker detail on fronts of shoulder pylons
-painted thrusters (they're gray plastic)
-painted canopy frame
-painted G2 symbol

Randy

Yeah, being 6 deluxes, they might be able to cram them all in a Botcon style box. Given, it might raise the price a bit, and they're already clocking in at "pricy" for a lot of people. Guessing that's why they haven't in the past.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, being 6 deluxes, they might be able to cram them all in a Botcon style box. Given, it might raise the price a bit, and they're already clocking in at "pricy" for a lot of people. Guessing that's why they haven't in the past.

Not saying they have to sell the subscription figures as a set, or anything like that, but I'm sure some people would be down to pay an additional $30-$40 after the fact on a nice collector box.

Yeah, I'm guessing they couldn't gamble on people buying or not. Might drive the numbers down to just a handful getting the box. To be cost effective, guessing they'd need to run a full batch and include it with the subscription.

This based on my experience in the print industry.

megatronus wrote:

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, being 6 deluxes, they might be able to cram them all in a Botcon style box. Given, it might raise the price a bit, and they're already clocking in at "pricy" for a lot of people. Guessing that's why they haven't in the past.

Not saying they have to sell the subscription figures as a set, or anything like that, but I'm sure some people would be down to pay an additional $30-$40 after the fact on a nice collector box.

Do not raise the price for a box. Sell it after the fact, like Megatronus's suggestion. Some of us don't care for the things and toss them straight in the trash. I'm still mad about TFCC Transmutate being overcosted because of that silly box for her and Rampage. Its not even a window-box where anyone could see inside. Why would I ever put them in it?

I'm glad I never bought a Transmutate then

Soon... soon, my Archforce G2 Megatron will have his whipping boy...

was the original g2 starscream's torso as orange as this one? I can't remember. Either way, may can't come soon enough

durroth wrote:was the original g2 starscream's torso as orange as this one? I can't remember. Either way, may can't come soon enough

Yeah it was. I'm glad they replicated the color.

Randy

G2 Starscream was I think the first Transformer my parents ever bought me as a kid so G2 holds a special place in my heart...super excited for these and when they were revealed, it meant a definite "yes" for me when deciding if I wanted to do the SS again. Plus I have always had a thing for the seekers and fighter jets (Thanks Top Gun lol)

I have to say, I've liked the small double-box items like Runabout/Runamuck. At that size, it seems like it lifts up an oddball one-off set in the middle of the year into something more special. I think that's a solid call from their team.

I do wonder how many would get boxes after the fact. I'd love that option. Maybe if they weren't the shipping box (ie. toys shipped earlier), they could cut costs and fit more in the box. (ie. less foam between, more figures crammed in the box.) Hmmmm.

I have to say, I'd buy retroactive boxes for 1.0, 2.0, and 3.0 if they decided to do it. Maybe they could sell them at the convention to save on shipping.

Okay. I've solved all the logistical problems. Hop to it!! LOL.

shockblast2 wrote:Good thing his mold is worn out. How many "club exclusives" has this mold raked out of the fandom at $45 a pop? It is funny to me that they can take this mold, color it in any combination of colors, slap some half assed name on it, sell it to people at a premium, and people will actually spend their hard earned cash in it.

Silliness...........

This right here, but whatever... not my money.

I just want to finally see Tarantulas!

I don't think the TFCC would succeed if choices were half-@$$ed. I think the club is doing what they should... identifying groups who can get excited about a limited release toy. (G2 fans, BW fans, Femmebot fans, SG fans, etc.)

The result? That niche buys that figure and are excited... and the REST of the fandom says "This isn't for me. What a rip off!"

Most fans will look at the 10 or so pieces the club releases and like maybe two or three to buy. (And dislike the other 2/3 of the set, maybe sell them...)

My point — these are niche releases... not aimed at the "bright yellow Bumblebee muscle-car consuming masses". They're not supposed to please everyone. (If they were, then Hasbro would have already released that toy/idea to the masses.)

But that's what is AMAZING about this whole thing. It's giving specific weird toys to niche groups that would never get them otherwise. If it were please-everyone generic normy schlock, that would be a depressing flop of a club.

gothsaurus wrote:I don't think the TFCC would succeed if choices were half-@$$ed. I think the club is doing what they should... identifying groups who can get excited about a limited release toy. (G2 fans, BW fans, Femmebot fans, SG fans, etc.)

The result? That niche buys that figure and are excited... and the REST of the fandom says "This isn't for me. What a rip off!"

Most fans will look at the 10 or so pieces the club releases and like maybe two or three to buy. (And dislike the other 2/3 of the set, maybe sell them...)

My point - these are niche releases... not aimed at the "bright yellow Bumblebee muscle-car consuming masses". They're not supposed to please everyone. (If they were, then Hasbro would have already released that toy/idea to the masses.)

But that's what is AMAZING about this whole thing. It's giving specific weird toys to niche groups that would never get them otherwise. If it were please-everyone generic normy schlock, that would be a depressing flop of a club.

I'll be selling my G2 Starscream the moment I get him and confirm there are no defects.

PM me with offers if interested.

Counterpunch wrote:I'll be selling my G2 Starscream the moment I get him and confirm there are no defects.

Save for the sides of his head painted black, thanks to a misinterpretation of the mock ups by the factory.

Just a few days ago we got our first look at inhand pictures of TFSS 3.0 Nacelle and G2 Starscream here. Today thanks to actoys we get new pictures of TFSS 3.0 Tarantulas. This Transformers Subscription Service 3.0 Tarantulas is a repaint of the United Scrapheap. Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

Is that a red visor?

I think its orange. Its probably the lighting.

Optimizzy wrote:I think its orange. Its probably the lighting.

yea probably lighting, no reason for them to use a different clear plastic than the one on the windshield.

Looks solid.

I'm both happy and kind of surprised that we're still getting BW figures to go with the 2006 set.

Who's buying two so they can ride each other?

This figure has come a long way, I have all the Botcon '06 figures and I'm really excited to add this one to the set. The orange visor is a nice touch! It would still be fun if the green bits could glow in the dark. The thought of the green bits glowing and putting a small light behind the visor puts a cool image in my head.

Looks great!

Why is it with the TFSS figures that all BUT ONE look like crap. I want this guy. I need a Tarantulas!

He looks like a sick toad.

I compared this will all the previous mockups (three, at LEAST)... and I have to say I think they nailed the deco. Compared with the original toy and the tv model, I think this is the best option possible. Only complaint is that the lime green seems a little light compared with the figure's more muted ochre-yellow-golden-tan-green.

BUT that's a tiny complaint. They might actually be giving a nod to the neon green in the upgraded Transmetal version (?)

Either way, I too have the original Botcon set. This will display GREAT with that lineup. Cheers to the club for filling in a gap. (same with G2 Starscream and other thoughtful choices.)

Sweet looking guy! I'm not a huge fan of the character but the Head looks cool! Is that a complete new headmold or a clever paint app? I can't quite tell from the picture quality. This junkicon mold is a whole lot of fun too.