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New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure

Transformers News: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure

Thursday, March 17th, 2022 3:01PM CDT

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A few reviewers are getting their hands on these Rise of the Beasts figures. Prime vs Prime got some too. He was invited by Hasbro to attend the private event announcing the film, so his review does also compare the figure to what was shown then. But the part that matters most is that we now have a better idea of the scale of these figures. This Optimus Primal and Tigatron figure is supposedly from the Power Alliance Weaponizer 2-Pack (F4611), which is priced at $15.99. Regardless of how simpler he may be, that price becomes quite the bargain for a kids' toy when you see that it is the size of a standard deluxe class figure. Of course, it may be that this is not the correct class and that maybe even Tigatron does not go with this toy. We'll see when they are revealed (or more likely simply released) in the Cyberverse line. This also helps us make sense of the scale of the Optimus Prime figure we saw. Also, fans were quick to point out that this Optimus has the Bayverse blades, further showing that this new era of films/merchandise is building off of the Bay movies (afterall, he is still involve) rather than being a complete reboot. So we'll still see some references to the Bay aesthetic, be it like the blades on Optimus, or Bumblebee's face.

Transformers News: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure

Transformers News: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure

Transformers News: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure

Transformers News: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure

Transformers News: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure
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Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129116)
Posted by TulioDude on March 17th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CDT
I'm highly anticipating to see the rest of the robots!
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129117)
Posted by Jumpstart1083 on March 17th, 2022 @ 4:06pm CDT
I actually like the head design a lot. It looks like a transformer. Not a human trying to be a Transformer. :lol: That always helps. :APPLAUSE:
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129118)
Posted by DeathReviews on March 17th, 2022 @ 4:27pm CDT
There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129119)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 17th, 2022 @ 4:37pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...


That's just the basic gimmicky toy.

I'm looking forward the SS voyager.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129121)
Posted by Lore Keeper on March 17th, 2022 @ 5:10pm CDT
I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success! :-D
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129122)
Posted by william-james88 on March 17th, 2022 @ 5:14pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.


And the shoulders. There is almost as much difference here as with the original Primal who also kept the same arms, back and waist as the gorilla mode.

That's just Primal.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129123)
Posted by SpaceEagle on March 17th, 2022 @ 5:37pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...


I mean, for a kid's toy it's honestly not that much of a surprise, especially considering most Primal toys aren't always that different between modes anyway.
Still, the probable SS figure will be a better purchase for adult collectors anyway.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129126)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 17th, 2022 @ 6:22pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.


And the shoulders. There is almost as much difference here as with the original Primal who also kept the same arms, back and waist as the gorilla mode.

That's just Primal.

I see what you did there :lol:
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129127)
Posted by DeathReviews on March 17th, 2022 @ 7:43pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...


I mean, for a kid's toy it's honestly not that much of a surprise, especially considering most Primal toys aren't always that different between modes anyway.
Still, the probable SS figure will be a better purchase for adult collectors anyway.



True - it may be fine for a kiddie toy. But it ain't enough for ME ;)
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129128)
Posted by DeathReviews on March 17th, 2022 @ 7:46pm CDT
Lore Keeper wrote:I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success! :-D



I'm inclined to think now that the factories and probably Hasbro themselves are 'in' on it with this, to generate buzz for their pending figures. Otherwise, they'd be moving much more aggressively to stop these early leaks. Instead of inviting the primary beneficiary of those leaks over to root through their stuff with permission. Sometimes it really is who you know... ;)
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129129)
Posted by Emerje on March 17th, 2022 @ 7:47pm CDT
I think the easiest comparison for the Primal figure is to a Cyberverse Warrior class figure. Simple figure with nearly Deluxe articulation, just with the spring loaded weapon gimmick replaced by a weapon partner gimmick at roughly the same price point.

Emerje
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129139)
Posted by william-james88 on March 17th, 2022 @ 11:50pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:There's... literally NO difference between the robot mode and the ape mode, except the chest/head piece being inverted, and the feet were rotated.

Uy. Hard pass on these so far...


I mean, for a kid's toy it's honestly not that much of a surprise, especially considering most Primal toys aren't always that different between modes anyway.
Still, the probable SS figure will be a better purchase for adult collectors anyway.



True - it may be fine for a kiddie toy. But it ain't enough for ME ;)


Hasbro is well aware, there will be a movie Primal just for you down the line, everyone wins (especially Hasbro).
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129140)
Posted by william-james88 on March 17th, 2022 @ 11:52pm CDT
Emerje wrote:I think the easiest comparison for the Primal figure is to a Cyberverse Warrior class figure. Simple figure with nearly Deluxe articulation, just with the spring loaded weapon gimmick replaced by a weapon partner gimmick at roughly the same price point.

Emerje


Honestly, that Primal looks better than almost all the cyberverse warrior figures I've ever come across. It's really cool how he isn't compromised in any way by the gimmick.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129184)
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 18th, 2022 @ 7:43pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success! :-D



I'm inclined to think now that the factories and probably Hasbro themselves are 'in' on it with this, to generate buzz for their pending figures. Otherwise, they'd be moving much more aggressively to stop these early leaks. Instead of inviting the primary beneficiary of those leaks over to root through their stuff with permission. Sometimes it really is who you know... ;)


The main point, however, is that if that were true, both parties have then run afoul of YouTube's terms and conditions, which expressly forbids Youtubers from promoting items in this way without without stating that the items were supplied by (Hasbro) for promotional purposes and/or that the video is a sponsored video/hosts sponsored content:

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"...You may include paid product placements, endorsements, sponsorships, or other content that requires disclosure to viewers in your videos. 

If you choose to include any of the above, you have to let us know by selecting the paid promotion box in your video details. See instructions below.

All paid promotions need to follow our Ad Policies and Community Guidelines. You and the brands you work with are responsible for understanding and complying with their local and legal obligations to disclose Paid Promotion in their content. Some of these obligations include when and how to disclose, and to whom to disclose..."


(Source: - https://support.google.com/youtube/answ ... dorsements )

So, either YouTubers like this are either "in cahoots" with Hasbrk (thus breaking YouTube's terms and conditions) or they are receiving stolen goods.

In both cases, they are receiving goods illegitimately to create videos, giving them an unfair advantage over other Youtubers, whilst gaining illicit ad revenue.

My guess would be that he was able to attend due to other reasons, unconnected to his illegitimate videos. Perhaps Hasbro (UK/Asia) gave him the opportunity, without checking his credentials? Or, perhaps he's lying through his back teeth about his invite and they're haven't actually been any events (or that the events were real and open to anyone who knew about them/asked to attend)?
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129209)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 19th, 2022 @ 4:54am CDT
Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129212)
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 19th, 2022 @ 5:13am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP


There's no argument here; he received illegitimate TFs. I do agree that, if he has been invited, it might have been due to some ignorant Hasbro staff member simply looking at his numbers, but that's only due to the fact he gets stolen TFs. What's odd is that Chefatron or Tonton, also in the same thieves' guild, weren't invited.

However, I do appreciate that Seibertron no longer links to his videos, just some screenshots. If only his name could be ommited too. It's not as if he's going to cry fowl about "stealing his property", is it? Omitting his name, or the irrelevant info that he attended a Hasbro event would also help to keep the conversation relevant to the toys.

Please consider this; if Seibertron doesn't want us mentioning him, then Seibertron shouldn't mention him. Why add fuel to the fire and do your best to keep things on topic?

Anyway, the Primal doesn't look half bad. It seems to have more arm and leg articulation than Prime does. Perhaps the lack of colour palette is due to not wanting to confuse the kiddies (AKA, ignorant parents) with two similar "Prime" colour schemes?
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129224)
Posted by william-james88 on March 19th, 2022 @ 1:32pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP


Thanks, I only mentioned it in the article because unlike with the chefatron toy review, this review also has the extra information of comparison between the way the toy looks and what PVP was shown at the event. It is related to the news about this toy and gives fans here more information that they did not have before. It is in no way an invitation to rehash an ethics debate which can be done in a different thread if people so wish. We are just talking about the toy here. And I will keep crediting our sources unless they ask us not to credit them. That is the bare minimum for any news site.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129226)
Posted by Rogue-Primal on March 19th, 2022 @ 2:46pm CDT
Even if we won't know much i'm hoping Rattrap might get a movie version figure down the line just to see him get a deluxe figure?

They did fantastic job with his core class figure in Kingdom. Although i doubt he'll get a role in the film. Giant rat joke.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129243)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on March 19th, 2022 @ 6:47pm CDT
But isn't core version enough? I would think a Deluxe would be too big, unless you're simply speaking about the engineering that goes into it being higher quality.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129246)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 19th, 2022 @ 7:22pm CDT
To be fair, a rat trap in this line would carty a different style then the Kingdom one
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129268)
Posted by Rogue-Primal on March 20th, 2022 @ 10:29am CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:But isn't core version enough? I would think a Deluxe would be too big, unless you're simply speaking about the engineering that goes into it being higher quality.


Rattrap has had 4 sizes

Scout Class Which is Bigger than Core Class and Legends.

Deluxe Transmetal Upgrade.

Mega Class in Beast Machines, did he really need such a size like supreme cheetor.

And recently Generations Rattrap was a deluxe which was that size to give him hidden bombs in his wrists.


SO yeah i would want a deluxe next to give him some more detailing.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129289)
Posted by bvzxa on March 20th, 2022 @ 3:04pm CDT
DeathReviews wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success! :-D



I'm inclined to think now that the factories and probably Hasbro themselves are 'in' on it with this, to generate buzz for their pending figures. Otherwise, they'd be moving much more aggressively to stop these early leaks. Instead of inviting the primary beneficiary of those leaks over to root through their stuff with permission. Sometimes it really is who you know... ;)


They aren't in on it at all. PvP is not stupid he is not a Hasbro rep and will not cross the line. Paramount is not aware of how this works and it's their movie. But Lore Keeper is right it's foul and many sites give them praise or even go as far as silencing any comments about such. We have been talking to Hasbro from our FB Group about this but due to COVID the security at factories are laxed. Don't worry their time is coming.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129290)
Posted by bvzxa on March 20th, 2022 @ 3:09pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP



As a heads up, we have been emailing and PMing Hasbro about this from our FB group. The admin of the group has spoken to Hasbro on several occasions. One thing is certain he is NOT a Hasbro rep or in any way associated with Hasbro. PvP can never officially state that he is and that is 100% facts.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129291)
Posted by bvzxa on March 20th, 2022 @ 3:13pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
DeathReviews wrote:
Lore Keeper wrote:I should take some notes:

Steal toys from company. Get invited to exclusive premiers.

Ok, got it! I now know the key to success! :-D



I'm inclined to think now that the factories and probably Hasbro themselves are 'in' on it with this, to generate buzz for their pending figures. Otherwise, they'd be moving much more aggressively to stop these early leaks. Instead of inviting the primary beneficiary of those leaks over to root through their stuff with permission. Sometimes it really is who you know... ;)


The main point, however, is that if that were true, both parties have then run afoul of YouTube's terms and conditions, which expressly forbids Youtubers from promoting items in this way without without stating that the items were supplied by (Hasbro) for promotional purposes and/or that the video is a sponsored video/hosts sponsored content:

-
"...You may include paid product placements, endorsements, sponsorships, or other content that requires disclosure to viewers in your videos. 

If you choose to include any of the above, you have to let us know by selecting the paid promotion box in your video details. See instructions below.

All paid promotions need to follow our Ad Policies and Community Guidelines. You and the brands you work with are responsible for understanding and complying with their local and legal obligations to disclose Paid Promotion in their content. Some of these obligations include when and how to disclose, and to whom to disclose..."


(Source: - https://support.google.com/youtube/answ ... dorsements )

So, either YouTubers like this are either "in cahoots" with Hasbrk (thus breaking YouTube's terms and conditions) or they are receiving stolen goods.

In both cases, they are receiving goods illegitimately to create videos, giving them an unfair advantage over other Youtubers, whilst gaining illicit ad revenue.

My guess would be that he was able to attend due to other reasons, unconnected to his illegitimate videos. Perhaps Hasbro (UK/Asia) gave him the opportunity, without checking his credentials? Or, perhaps he's lying through his back teeth about his invite and they're haven't actually been any events (or that the events were real and open to anyone who knew about them/asked to attend)?


We have spoken to Hasbro...he is not a Hasbro rep at all. Most likely scenario is Paramount (if he was truly invited at all) is not aware of how he has gotten the toys. If he truly worked for Hasbro hen he would have to state these early reviews are promotion, as we know Hasbro schedules their reveals with such events as Fans First Fridays, in which the last one was a bust as the thieves shown the toys months in advance. I personally don't think Hasbro UK is in cahoots with anyone it's just Hasbro is slow to act.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129292)
Posted by primalxconvoy on March 20th, 2022 @ 3:14pm CDT
bvzxa wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP



As a heads up, we have been emailing and PMing Hasbro about this from our FB group. The admin of the group has spoken to Hasbro on several occasions. One thing is certain he is NOT a Hasbro rep or in any way associated with Hasbro. PvP can never officially state that he is and that is 100% facts.


Thank you for the additional information, however, I think you've triple posted here, when all you needed was the one reply?
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129293)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 20th, 2022 @ 3:17pm CDT
For the last time, keep discussion strictly to the Rise of the Beast toyline. This is not the thread for anything regarding PvP or any other reviewer like him.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129299)
Posted by bvzxa on March 20th, 2022 @ 4:58pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
bvzxa wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Or (the more likely scenario), hasbro marketing team invited him because of his online following. No conspiracy needed. However, this talk of reviewers isn't relevant to the conversation is it. Let's get back to talking the toys and what it might mean for the rest of the line. There is no need to hash out old arguments about PvP



As a heads up, we have been emailing and PMing Hasbro about this from our FB group. The admin of the group has spoken to Hasbro on several occasions. One thing is certain he is NOT a Hasbro rep or in any way associated with Hasbro. PvP can never officially state that he is and that is 100% facts.


Thank you for the additional information, however, I think you've triple posted here, when all you needed was the one reply?


I replied as a see fit. Sorry not sorry that offended you.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2129319)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 20th, 2022 @ 7:58pm CDT
Primal looks both good and kinda ridiculous, and I love it. He looks good! Also digging the design on Optimus still, it looks good.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130242)
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2022 @ 9:40am CDT
Chefatron came upon another Rise of the Beasts toy. We had Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal and now we have Bumblebee in his Offroad mode. We do not know the exact class of this toy but it is aimed at kids, as are all toys in the Rise of the Beasts movie line (there may be Studio Series toys of these designs released later). While the alt mode does have Camarro features, it does seem to have more height than the vehicle we saw on set. You can compare with the set photo below.

These photos/review give us a good look at what to expect from Bumblebee's robot mode in the film. It still keeps a lot of the traditional Bayverse Bee designs, such as the layers of metal, the blaster and the face, while also being smoother in certain areas. You'll let us know what you think!


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Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130247)
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on March 30th, 2022 @ 10:04am CDT
That looks pretty nice, actually! We don’t know if this is what Bee will look like in the final movie, but I like that we’re seeing more Bayverse elements like the plasma cannon and armor pieces on the arm while still being something new.

The flip-out Plasma cannon in particular is really neat!
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130248)
Posted by Barricade.it on March 30th, 2022 @ 10:14am CDT
Quite mediocre figure.
The alt mode is nice but the robot mode is ugly, with that huge backpack and the doors standing stiff backward.
It's clear that this is a kids oriented line, but it's a bit too plain even for kids (and actually, I think in the hands of a kid those doors will surely break in that position)
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130250)
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2022 @ 10:25am CDT
Barricade.it wrote:Quite mediocre figure.
The alt mode is nice but the robot mode is ugly, with that huge backpack and the doors standing stiff backward.
It's clear that this is a kids oriented line, but it's a bit too plain even for kids (and actually, I think in the hands of a kid those doors will surely break in that position)


Looking at the transformation, it looks too complicated for kids as well. That bit about unpegging the lower half and replugging it in a tiny tab within the shell looks far too minutia a step for a kid who'd be fine with a toy of this limited articulation. The Primal is the better of these toys with the complexity being well in tune with the look and simplicity of the toy for an overal fun exprience.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130264)
Posted by SpaceEagle on March 30th, 2022 @ 12:01pm CDT
It's way too silly of me to even think this would happen but is it wrong that i was honestly hoping that they'd change 'Bee's face? It's not the worst of the Bayverse noggins but I was really hoping we'd have something more akin to G1 BB. (Not because I'm a Geewunner, I do genuinely like a lot of the Bayverse designs but BB's face never really appealed to me.)
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130268)
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2022 @ 1:01pm CDT
EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:The flip-out Plasma cannon in particular is really neat!


It is neat. They had it in that AOE/TLK deluxe Bee and now even the younger kids can enjoy that.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130295)
Posted by transformers_va on March 30th, 2022 @ 5:33pm CDT
Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130296)
Posted by william-james88 on March 30th, 2022 @ 5:34pm CDT
transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.


Your toys had better articulation?
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130300)
Posted by cloudballoon on March 30th, 2022 @ 5:47pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:It's way too silly of me to even think this would happen but is it wrong that i was honestly hoping that they'd change 'Bee's face? It's not the worst of the Bayverse noggins but I was really hoping we'd have something more akin to G1 BB. (Not because I'm a Geewunner, I do genuinely like a lot of the Bayverse designs but BB's face never really appealed to me.)


I hated the Bayverse' BB face. Too skeletal. However I did like the versions that he had the faceplate on. I didn't find the change they did to BB's face in his own movie, but it looked much better and I at least am not hating it.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130302)
Posted by transformers_va on March 30th, 2022 @ 5:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.


Your toys had better articulation?
No, my toys did not "has" better articulation, but they did HAVE better quality, better designs, better transformations, etc. (of course, this is all imo) That thing in the picture looks like the kiddie toys from McDonald's
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130318)
Posted by TulioDude on March 30th, 2022 @ 11:31pm CDT
Bumblebee is looking good,he seems easy to transform!Also,I like how these simplified toys have improved their proportions over time.The sculpt looks detailed.

Day 821 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130333)
Posted by Emerje on March 31st, 2022 @ 10:05am CDT
I'm curious if that design is based on concept art or if the extra cage around it was just to skirt licensing. I guess we'll know if it has a GM logo or whatever on the back of the package.

Emerje
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130345)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on March 31st, 2022 @ 12:52pm CDT
transformers_va wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.


Your toys had better articulation?
No, my toys did not "has" better articulation, but they did HAVE better quality, better designs, better transformations, etc. (of course, this is all imo) That thing in the picture looks like the kiddie toys from McDonald's


I will say that the original figures had a certain "quality" to them the today's toys do not, back then they felt almost real due to the metal parts etc. creating sharp lines and detail. While today most of them come off looing cheaply made. That said, I really like how the articulation has evolved beyond them looking like a stilt statue as well as the how much the detail has improved with head sculpts.

So this is why I'm often conflicted on whether to buy the new stuff or not, it almost feels like a trade off in quality over function. Yet I still wouldn't prefer OG G1 figures over what's being made today.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130349)
Posted by william-james88 on March 31st, 2022 @ 1:44pm CDT
Till-all-R1 wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
transformers_va wrote:Good grief! That looks like garbage!!

When I was a child, I had G1 toys, which is why I'm still a huge fan. If these were the toys I had back then, I don't think I'd be a fan now.


Your toys had better articulation?
No, my toys did not "has" better articulation, but they did HAVE better quality, better designs, better transformations, etc. (of course, this is all imo) That thing in the picture looks like the kiddie toys from McDonald's


I will say that the original figures had a certain "quality" to them the today's toys do not, back then they felt almost real due to the metal parts etc. creating sharp lines and detail. While today most of them come off looing cheaply made. That said, I really like how the articulation has evolved beyond them looking like a stilt statue as well as the how much the detail has improved with head sculpts.

So this is why I'm often conflicted on whether to buy the new stuff or not, it almost feels like a trade off in quality over function. Yet I still wouldn't prefer OG G1 figures over what's being made today.


Transformations improved as well and today's toys no longer have partsforming fists. Plus they look closer to the show and have better proportions. And people like to bring up the metal component, which I admit is cool and invokes some type of quality, but it wasn't present throughout most of G1, just the beginning. Honestly, if G1 toys like Optimus and Starscream which had a kid needing to keep their hands stored somewhere have become so beloved and inspired fans to collect for life, then so can these ROTB toys aimed at younger kids.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130360)
Posted by Emerje on March 31st, 2022 @ 7:18pm CDT
Not to mention the lack of stickers to make fake details (aside from in Titans Return) in modern toys. And really, Bumblebee is just as complex as the majority of G1 figures.

Emerje
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130373)
Posted by william-james88 on March 31st, 2022 @ 11:38pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Not to mention the lack of stickers to make fake details (aside from in Titans Return) in modern toys. And really, Bumblebee is just as complex as the majority of G1 figures.

Emerje


He's more complex. The sad truth is that if Hasbro released figures today that had the same articulation, complexity, proportions and as screen innacurate as G1 figures but for a new show, most collectors would complain, call foul, and say that these look like Happy Meal toys.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130451)
Posted by Emerje on April 1st, 2022 @ 9:37pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Emerje wrote:Not to mention the lack of stickers to make fake details (aside from in Titans Return) in modern toys. And really, Bumblebee is just as complex as the majority of G1 figures.

Emerje


He's more complex. The sad truth is that if Hasbro released figures today that had the same articulation, complexity, proportions and as screen innacurate as G1 figures but for a new show, most collectors would complain, call foul, and say that these look like Happy Meal toys.

So basically Beast Machines. :lol:

Emerje
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130485)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 2nd, 2022 @ 3:09pm CDT
I like that Bee, I really like it a lot. I can't wait for these figures to hit.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130974)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 10th, 2022 @ 11:48am CDT
That toy gives me more hope for the movie. I love how the design looks. It's a good sign for me
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130979)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 10th, 2022 @ 12:06pm CDT
They're supposed to drop this month, any word?
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2130999)
Posted by william-james88 on April 10th, 2022 @ 6:33pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:They're supposed to drop this month, any word?


Word is they got pushed to fall release in new cyberverse packaging. These figures are not in ports at the moment.
Re: New Review Shows Scale of Rise of the Beasts Optimus Primal Figure (2131520)
Posted by william-james88 on April 16th, 2022 @ 8:09am CDT
Alright, so it seemed like most, if not all, of the Transformers 7 Rise of the Beasts toys set for 2022 were going to be sold under the Cyberverse line and coming late this year. But now, thanks to JTPrime 17, we know that two products have made it to US shores awaiting distribution and both are logged under the Rise of the Beasts toyline. What's interesting is we don't really know what these toys entail nor the characters that will be released. We just know the product name and quantity:

F4110 Tra Mv7 Spark Racers Ast 2400 pcs (300 cartons)
F4113 Tra Mv7 Spark Chargers ast 4800 pcs (600 cartons)

It does show what we were expecting, these toys will just show up on shelves without announcement, unless Hasbro announces them soon.

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