New Stock Images of Wave 2 Transformers Legacy Toys

Ooof...I'm not a huge fan of the huge platforms on the back of Menasors feet.

o.supreme wrote:Ooof...I'm not a huge fan of the huge platforms on the back of Menasors feet.

I am a fan of the increased stability they likely provide.

I still can't picture the final Menasor, with the weird framework system.

But I LOVE Wilrider's twin super soakers!

o.supreme wrote:Ooof...I'm not a huge fan of the huge platforms on the back of Menasors feet.

I bet with the car hoods above it, it's not that noticeable in hand and that make the gestalt more stable.

What I really don't like is how short/stumpy Menasor looks. Without the Combiner Wars' scramble city play pattern constrant, Legacy Menasor can have a perfectly proportioned body ratio. But Hasbro still came out with a Menasor with stumpy legs and a bit of gorilla arms. The problem is easily solvable if Hasbro added like half an inch to the lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, so that the frames holding the cars can rotate 180 degress that fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back). This will probably elongate the proportion of the cargo too, making the alt mode better looking.

It's not too much to ask for a Commander... is it?

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

Don't know if anyone posted a vid review of Legacy Motormaster, but found one. Not a great reviewer but enough to get an idea of what we're actually getting

https://youtu.be/Ab96aS0vbfo

Cyber Bishop wrote:Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

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Some of those videos say that the youtuber got money or free things to make the video (the figure) Maybe Hasbro is securely involved after all?

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

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Some of those videos say that the youtuber got money or free things to make the video (the figure) Maybe Hasbro is securely involved after all?

I believe in PVP's case, Mark has confirmed that they never send anything to him after someone asked about his Lego Prime review

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Oh look another illegally obtained transformer from a certain Youtube poster, Ill pass on watching it.v
No box, no instructions, no mention to how he gets it so quickly = illegally obtaining it.
Not to mention his voice especially his ridiculous inflections on certain words is annoying (I watched one video when he first started posting some time back) not to mention his knowledge is sketchy.

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Some of those videos say that the youtuber got money or free things to make the video (the figure) Maybe Hasbro is securely involved after all?

I believe in PVP's case, Mark has confirmed that they never send anything to him after someone asked about his Lego Prime review

Weird. I honestly enjoy KOs and early looks, no matter how illegal they are

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

However people call it, I alway had the cars in front for my toys as long as it can be done and looks better to me.

cloudballoon wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

However people call it, I alway had the cars in front for my toys as long as it can be done and looks better to me.

Plus it was a way to give the G1 toy knees I believe

I am just loving Elita 1's robot mode!

Also I am excited for Menasor, show the other 2 stunticons already!

cloudballoon wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

However people call it, I alway had the cars in front for my toys as long as it can be done and looks better to me.

I used to think that the lower legs of Menasor was the underside of the vehicle mode, and It wouldn't look too bad that way. surprisingly, I'd prefer the toy accurate approach in this case (I usually wouldn't)

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje

To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

I see it as their way to try and wiggle out of the sale that they wanted you to buy in stock items with rather than preorders and they probably thought you'd take it instead of spending hours on the phone. I guess they were wrong. lol

Till-all-R1 wrote:I see it as their way to try and wiggle out of the sale that they wanted you to buy in stock items with rather than preorders and they probably thought you'd take it instead of spending hours on the phone. I guess they were wrong. lol

Not so much hours though and more like 25 minutes total at most.

Despite being a call center in India, this is Target still and they actually knew what they were doing...for the most part. So things went quickly thankfully. If it did take longer I would've given up. Blue Marvel is definitely going on sale on Amazon at some time and I was never really worried about that. It's just that I don't think a better deal for Motormaster is going to show up. I doubt it will last as long as Rodimus did to go to 40% off on Pulse of all places.

PrimeVsPrime just uploaded his review of it.

https://youtu.be/0slWYzXMbAY

i gotta say lads....

...TAKE MY MONEY !

its amazing some of the engineering in it.

Transformers Legacy commander class Motormaster has been out in Australia for a little while now. We posted many in hand images but we never posted a video review. Some fans have sent some in and we are sharing this one from Grim, who reviewed it first after purchasing it at retail. Grim goes through the whole gamut, showing how to go from one mode to another. He even has the Arialbots come in to form the legs for fun.

Enjoy!

Well, credit due where credits due, they increased the compatability with the stunticons in that they can all fit in the same box as motormaster.

Trailer not being able to store or at least release a stunticon sucks...at the very minimum they could have given it fold out pegs like on jetfire so bots could hitch a ride on the side of it. Those warrped wheels tho...that would be an instant return for refund for me.

The base mode...yeagh that's not compatable either other than some vbad looking terrain for them to hide behind and no ramp or little black car. Then to top that off not use any kind of connecting mechanism that they have a choice of using to link it to other bases, yikes.

The way the hands sit on bot mode is just off too they should be more central with the stunticon attached. Going to take a few upgrades to sort this thing out but nothing new there.

Shame Optimus Primes cab should have been the size of motormasters to begin with.

I was on the no side of the fence. After seeing how it really is and for that price, that fence is so far behind me, I cannot see it. The wheels could be an isolated incident, but I'm not willing to gamble that much on a robot that looks that bad.

Grahf_ wrote:To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

This happpens all the time, it's pretty well known around here that ordering from target.com is basically a waste of time.

Grahf_ wrote:To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

This whole scenario sums up my experience trying to preorder items from wave 2 of Earthrise...almost down to the tee with the sale and everything. And in the end, I think it wound up getting cancelled anyway.

I don't pre-order anything from the mainline, I've never seen a point to it. I only do it for exclusives.

The wave 2 core class figures for Legacy have been ready for distribution for a while now. We saw them available in the east and now they are popping up at specialty stores in the west, like Time Warp Toys in south St Louis, Missouri, which is where TF fan Patrickab7 found Shockwave. He took a few images to show us the toy in hand. We also have more in hand images of the upcoming Ransack who is in an exclusive Buzzworthy Bumblebee 4 pack. Those come from a Chefatron review.

So there is a peg on the bottom! Also it looks like a nicely shrunk down version of Siege Shockwave's alt mode

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje

It is one of the reasons I've always said Menasor is so Fugly. The worst looking combiner in G1. In every other Gestalt, a team member represents it's own limb. Not just a casing over a hollow skeleton.

So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

MaximalNui wrote:So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

Not every Energon weapon is clear plastic. The product descriptions call out the following Wave 2 figures as having Energon weapons:
-Leader Blitzwing (the rocket hands)
-Elita-1 (clear rifles)
-Knock-Out (clear "shield" that combines with his rifle to become the spear)
-Tarantulas (painted buzzsaw)
-Jhiaxus (painted red gun)
And on top of that, the designers have referred to all Deluxe Stunticons so far as having Dark Energon blasters, even though the product descriptions have forgone mentioning them in favor of talking about Menasor.

MaximalNui wrote:So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

Elita-1 has Twin Energon Blasters, Knock Out has an Energon Shield, Tarantulas has an Energon buzzsaw, and Wildrider has Energon Blasters that shoot Dark Energon (same case as Drag Strip's guns).

Not all are translucent plastic, but that's what Hasbro called them upon their official reveal.

The more I’ve seen of Menasor, the more I’m excited to have him in my collection.
I can’t say I’m more excited about any 1 (or even 4) of the Stunticons than I am for Sludge, but in the grand scheme, Hastak has done a really solid job with what we’ve seen so far.

Jtprime found some new listings for a Crossover and what is likely Earthspark, so it's not out of the question that we get some Legacy year 2 listings soon

As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.

Emerje wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),
Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.


or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

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I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje


It is one of the reasons I've always said Menasor is so Fugly. The worst looking combiner in G1. In every other Gestalt, a team member represents it's own limb. Not just a casing over a hollow skeleton.

Well if you look closely, in the cartoon, you can kind of see the bottom of the car mode (in the legs) in combined mode. That's how I thought it worked, but apparently not.

DeathReviews wrote:As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.

Yeah I'm not sure where Hasbros logic is. I know they want to play into the whole "multiverse" angle but having one obvious stand out character in these sets ( Previously Fangry) and now, Ransack, seems odd.

Kids won't care, and parents wanting to get a " battle in a box" won't care either, but most fans who obviously want the one one toy made with them in mind will pass,

These should have been sold as Selects. Packs of multiple characters do much better when there is a more united theme than " 4 randos from across dimensions* . When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.

o.supreme wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.

Yeah I'm not sure where Hasbros logic is. I know they want to play into the whole "multiverse" angle but having one obvious stand out character in these sets ( Previously Fangry) and now, Ransack, seems odd.

Kids won't care, and parents wanting to get a " battle in a box" won't care either, but most fans who obviously want the one one toy made with them in mind will pass,

These should have been sold as Selects. Packs of multiple characters do much better when there is a more united theme than " 4 randos from across dimensions* . When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.

I have a feeling that target only cares as long as it sells, mo matter the buyer.

o.supreme wrote:When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.

Well they must have been satisfied with the performance of the last pack if they asked for another one

ZeroWolf wrote:I have a feeling that target only cares as long as it sells, no matter the buyer.

I suppose. How well did it sell though? I know many people weren't able to find it because of poor distribution, whereas, at least one of my Targets had them in stock when a 25% off sale was occurring so who knows.

I'd say it sold well enough that they didn't turn the offer down for another set.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Not every Energon weapon is clear plastic. The product descriptions call out the following Wave 2 figures as having Energon weapons:
-Leader Blitzwing (the rocket hands)
-Elita-1 (clear rifles)
-Knock-Out (clear "shield" that combines with his rifle to become the spear)
-Tarantulas (painted buzzsaw)
-Jhiaxus (painted red gun)
And on top of that, the designers have referred to all Deluxe Stunticons so far as having Dark Energon blasters, even though the product descriptions have forgone mentioning them in favor of talking about Menasor.

Sabrblade wrote:Elita-1 has Twin Energon Blasters, Knock Out has an Energon Shield, Tarantulas has an Energon buzzsaw, and Wildrider has Energon Blasters that shoot Dark Energon (same case as Drag Strip's guns).

Not all are translucent plastic, but that's what Hasbro called them upon their official reveal.

Oh, so it wasn't abandoned; it's just really inconsistent.

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I have a feeling that target only cares as long as it sells, no matter the buyer.

I suppose. How well did it sell though? I know many people weren't able to find it because of poor distribution, whereas, at least one of my Targets had them in stock when a 25% off sale was occurring so who knows.

For Target they were very hard to find. Many stores never got them and they sold out literally instantly when they appeared online. Having them make it to clearance was certainly an anomaly. As a TRU Canada exclusive it definitely was better stocked and lingered. I watch a few Canadians on YouTube (Laura Legends and Mathew Mercy) who have done TRU walking tours where the four pack was very visible on center aisle displays. Not to mention our own Canadians taking pictures of them on display so they definitely weren't rare up there.

To me it's obvious that Hasbro is looking for one good figure for a set that will hook buyers and Ransack appears to be the figure for this set (though I'm sure Hasbro is thinking Goldbug who we haven't seen yet). I doubt Target is picking the figures for these sets and with Buzzworthy Bumblebee being an undeniable success for them they probably leave the choices up to Hasbro, I doubt they're making any sort of requests beyond "a four pack". I'm curious how the price will compare to the previous set since there isn't a Voyager in it, I don't think we've seen a computer listing yet.

Emerje

Wonder when we'll see anything about that "Energon Monster" the leaked listings talked about.

Why do I actually like Ransack? He's surprisingly attractive

Emerje wrote:For Target they were very hard to find. Many stores never got them and they sold out literally instantly when they appeared online. Having them make it to clearance was certainly an anomaly.

Agreed. I stated in my original post, that some Target stores didn't get them at all because of poor distribution, I understand that. Also I said it was on SALE at 25% off, not on Clearance. I've made the same mistake before, but I'm learning there is a difference:



Lastly, I was a bit surprised when I reached out to Scott himself, and he is going to create a discussion video around this exact topic: Why a single toy, that is highly desired by adult collectors would be in a multi-pack of less desirable toys. Of course as stated, the real world answer is most likely- "Target doesn't care as long as it sells", but it should be fun to watch when it comes out, probably within the next week or so.

I mean I'm not perfect. I purchased BOTH Titans Return Giftsets with Random characters, but I found ways to justify in my mind how to integrate certain characters into my collection that didn't really fit. However I couldn't do the same with the Buzzworthy pack from last year, nor can I do it with the upcoming one this year.

o.supreme wrote: Why a single toy, that is highly desired by adult collectors would be in a multi-pack of less desirable toys.

I thought we knew that, no? It's a selling point for the 4 pack. Also, in the cases where this more sought after toy has new parts, the selling of it along with toys that don't makes the overall budget work better.

Also, Scott needs to work on proofreading his thumbnails

It's surprising we don't have a review for Legacy core class Shockwave yet, since this toy is out in the east. But we do have more in hand pics instead. This are clearer than the previous ones and give a good look at the toy from various angles along with a comparison to this year's other core class Shockwave.

He and his wavemates should appear shortly in the west.

Colour breakup could be better but he looks fun! But then I love me some Shockwaves so I'm biased

No comparison to TR version, which he got a closer transformation scheme and G1 homage design?

Haha - Shockwave's back and he brought PIZZA