New Studio Series Dropkick and ROTF Starscream Hasbro Stock Photos

starscream looks decent, the other one, NO

I like Dropkick, but he sure doesn't look anything like his character model.

Blitzwing's looking awesome!

Dropkick looks nice. Do you guys think I should wait until they get their car mode toys (IF they get them) or should I just grab these?

Dropkick looks like a power core combiner. That's not a compliment.

Just gonna throw some of my pennies in :p

I don’t mind fake parts as long as they make it accurate to the source material aren’t being used in a lazy way. Evasion prime has fake parts but they are used in a complex way to hide in vehicle mode and create an accurate chest. That’s good. AoE Hound uses fake tires on his feet because that’s accurate and hard to engineer, looks ok and I don’t mind. Legends Jazz has TWO (count em’, TWO) front ends because one is a lazy fake. That sucks.

Not gonna buy old bee because I have the 07 one. Barricade (yay!) looks like he’s missing some paint in vehicle mode. Looks like missing headlights are the new car rims, but my old deluxe is worn out. Sideswipe is a need because I love the DotM Stingray. Dropkick looks interesting, I need more helicopters. Skipping starscream just because the tats don’t warrant two figures for me. WW2 bee will fit in with my old toy planes and tanks on the Knick knack shelf!

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Blitzwing's looking awesome!

Dropkick looks nice. Do you guys think I should wait until they get their car mode toys (IF they get them) or should I just grab these?

Blitzwing?

Dropkick looks fun but might be a bit misleading if you go by his cgi box art which clearly shows him as a triple changer.

william-james88 wrote:Prime's alt mode is all over him in most of his toys. His chest usually has his truck windows. Thats why no one minds the grill changing a bit, the alt mode is clearly visible everywhere else. But with movie figures, they looks like junkyards and now one of the main parts of barricade which actually looks like it could be from a car is a fake piece. Thats just weak sauce man.

Just going by the past couple years of G1 Optimus Prime toys: Titans Return Voyager. Fake windows. Power of the Primes Leader. Fake windows (on top of the real windows from what i see in a picture of the matrix chamber?). Titans Return Leader barely has windows to begin with but ends up covering the vast majority of the chest with random looking silver crap that doesn't look even in the slightest truck-like.

And really what else could that Barricade toy turn into do you think? His chest still looks plenty car-like to me. Plus the wheels and car doors? Why, I can't possibly figure it out. Helicopter? Nah. Jet, nah. Dunno. oh wait... DINOSAUR? no? Well, I'm stumped.

"they looks like junkyards" Ah now see this is where we totally disagree. I think the movie characters, for the most part are beautifully designed and helped pushed past the over-use of simplistic generic-looking robot designs that a lot of (particularly vehicular-based) Transformers had been using for the past 20+ years. Even something as simple as how the 2007 Concept Camaro Bee toy's chest turn ups at the sides with the middle kept down like it was saying 'nah' to choosing between the old G1 Sideswipe/Hot Rod hood down and the Prowl/Jazz 'car-boobs' look and went for a fresh mixture of the two.

Anyways you've been ignoring actual good points made by myself and (a very well written post) by Wolfman-Jake about just how much engineering can be fit into certain sizes of figures when trying to maintain character model accuracy and you've not provided any sensible alternatives. They've tried twice to get the car front turning into the robot chest in the 2007 toy (which just looks horribly inaccurate and poor these days) and the DotM figure (which still uses a fake part to some extent since the middle of the grill and bumper end up on the inside with a fake angled one flipped out to try resemble the movie CGI model a bit more). So they've tried. This time we finally getting a Deluxe Barricade that looks about as accurate and awesome as a Deluxe Class Barricade could ever look and if it does that with a lil bit of 'cheating' I'm absolutely frickin' fine with that since as I said before, it looks fantastic in both modes and is still a transforming figure. I mean if it REALLY cheated by having a completely seperate piece you had to remove (like if you had to take off the car front completely and set it aside and attach another totally seperate chest piece on), now that I would think would be pretty lousy cos 'partsforming' is generally lame and for the most part should have died with the various original G1 toys such as the seeker jets and Ultra Magnus. But nope, if this toy does indeed have two car fronts in both car and robot mode versions within the toy itself then it's doing a good job of hiding it because the car mode itself looks great and far superior to previous versions (Yay for having PROPER transparent rear windows this time... the 2007 and DotM figures DO NOT) and has by far the most accurate rendition of his awesome robot mode the Deluxe class has ever done too. Even if the real car front is visible from the back of the figure (which haven't seen yet) I'd be ok with that cos it's still mostly hidden from general view and it's not blatantly just sticking out (the side view in the photos looks actually very clean).

And i'm not even sure what 'weak sauce' even is. Some internet slang thing i missed out on or something. Having to resort to a silly picture like that in such a debate seems very cheap itself.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Blitzwing's looking awesome!

Dropkick looks nice. Do you guys think I should wait until they get their car mode toys (IF they get them) or should I just grab these?

Blitzwing?

Dropkick looks fun but might be a bit misleading if you go by his cgi box art which clearly shows him as a triple changer.

at this scale there is no possible way that hasbro could make a deluxe triple changer (heck, they could barely pull off voyager triple changers). clearly what they are doing is making separate toys for the cars and flying vehicle modes to make the vehicles not have to be compromised like crazy, and make them actually possible to transform at this size. also the blitzwing thing was him making fun of the name change in the bumblebee film. (starscream -> blitzwing)

My point was that they should have made a new cgi render so kids weren't misled when they wanted Dropkick for their collection as it's a high probability that hasbro will use the same cgi render on the box art. I think they will try a triple changer for him at some point though

I had a hunch you were talking about Starscream

I want a 3rd party upgrade to turn Dropkick into Whirl.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:And i'm not even sure what 'weak sauce' even is. Some internet slang thing i missed out on or something. Having to resort to a silly picture like that in such a debate seems very cheap itself.

Its just an expression and I added that image to make light of the situation, since these are just toys afterall, nothing to really get wound up about. Look, I will still be getting this barricade, an I look forward to transforming him but I am still not super fond of fake chests when it wasnt fake before. We'll see how this guy turns out for me.

Ok, Dropkick may be the best helicopter mode Transformer ever made. I LOVE him!

Octobotimus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Blitzwing's looking awesome!

Dropkick looks nice. Do you guys think I should wait until they get their car mode toys (IF they get them) or should I just grab these?

Blitzwing?

Dropkick looks fun but might be a bit misleading if you go by his cgi box art which clearly shows him as a triple changer.

at this scale there is no possible way that hasbro could make a deluxe triple changer (heck, they could barely pull off voyager triple changers). clearly what they are doing is making separate toys for the cars and flying vehicle modes to make the vehicles not have to be compromised like crazy, and make them actually possible to transform at this size.

Agreed. Unfortunately, I don't think we're ever going to see a triple changing live action movie toy unless it's an alien/absract cybertronian mode. The movies focus on having real world vehicles for the alt modes, and there is no way to get two clean, good looking alt modes in one figure that is going to pass the licensors' standards for aesthetics and authenticity.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Octobotimus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Blitzwing's looking awesome!

Dropkick looks nice. Do you guys think I should wait until they get their car mode toys (IF they get them) or should I just grab these?

Blitzwing?

Dropkick looks fun but might be a bit misleading if you go by his cgi box art which clearly shows him as a triple changer.

at this scale there is no possible way that hasbro could make a deluxe triple changer (heck, they could barely pull off voyager triple changers). clearly what they are doing is making separate toys for the cars and flying vehicle modes to make the vehicles not have to be compromised like crazy, and make them actually possible to transform at this size.

Agreed. Unfortunately, I don't think we're ever going to see a triple changing live action movie toy unless it's an alien/absract cybertronian mode. The movies focus on having real world vehicles for the alt modes, and there is no way to get two clean, good looking alt modes in one figure that is going to pass the licensors' standards for aesthetics and authenticity.

At any scale really. I would love to see a triple changer have 2 different licensed alt modes (one flyer and one car) but it dont see that happening soon (and its not like 3 p companies can do that either).

Both Nathaniel Prime and Overcracker have let us know that there is a video review of Studio Series 18 Deluxe Volkswagen Bumblebee. This review comes to us from Peaugh. We had a transformation video already but now we get an English language review for this very anticipated figure. This is the first release of this mold and we will be seeing it again in gold for the "exclusive" Retro Rock Garage Vol. 2 set. This toy should be found in stores soon as the shipping date from Robot Kingdom is September 28. Bumblebee will be 3 per case so there should be no problem finding him. Here is the entire case content:

CROWBAR X 1
BUMBLEBEE X 3
RATCHET X 2
RAIDER X 2

Overcracker wrote:Studio Series 18, Bumblebee Movie, Deluxe Bumblebee English review by Peaugh.

I've been all about Cobra Dropkick since he was first revealed but, man, that face - rather, where is his face?

Found a review of Shadow Raider on YouTube

Does anyone know when these guys come out?

Yeah, Street date is September 28

Awesome thanks