New Takara Exclusive Mainline Giant Optimus Primal Toy is Selling out Quick

OH GOD, THE ROTB PRIMALS NEVER END!

Now to see if it's available at a Canadian retailer...

-Kanrabat- wrote:OH GOD, THE ROTB PRIMALS NEVER END!

Now to see if it's available at a Canadian retailer...

shipping from bbts isnt terrible and he's below that 100 dollar duty treshold

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:OH GOD, THE ROTB PRIMALS NEVER END!

Now to see if it's available at a Canadian retailer...

shipping from bbts isnt terrible and he's below that 100 dollar duty treshold

Heh, you said duty, he he.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:OH GOD, THE ROTB PRIMALS NEVER END!

Now to see if it's available at a Canadian retailer...

shipping from bbts isnt terrible and he's below that 100 dollar duty treshold

If customs can be avoided, it will be worth it.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Do we know yet how it's being sold in Japan?

Na, it's weird but Hasbro has revealed their import of this toy before Japan revealed it themselves.

Ahh, so this is the toy from that Japanese commercial we saw.

Looks very nice. If it's anything like Takara's upscaled Evasion Mode (Legendary) Prime he should be a real nice toy to handle.

I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And oversized voyager for kids. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's funny how on social media and other websites, fans are clamoring for it saying it's better than what Hasbro is providing in the SS line. It's different, but is it better? Would this toy still be praised if it was released in the mainline with all the other kid toys instead of the Takara exclusive fanfare? Or would it be labelled as a big gimmicky toy of no consequence?

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And oversized voyager for kids. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's funny how on social media and other websites, fans are clamoring for it saying it's better than what Hasbro is providing in the SS line. It's different, but is it better? Would this toy still be praised if it was released in the mainline with all the other kid toys instead of the Takara exclusive fanfare? Or would it be labelled as a big gimmicky toy of no consequence?

I'm sure those who praise the thing as "better" missed the memo that it's an OVERSIED version of that voyager, not a "Takara premium paintjob" of yesteryears.

If it would have come out everywhere for the standard leader price, I would have considered it. But paying more? Nope.

Beside, I have a few too many preorders on my plate already.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And oversized voyager for kids. Nothing wrong with that, of course, but it's funny how on social media and other websites, fans are clamoring for it saying it's better than what Hasbro is providing in the SS line. It's different, but is it better? Would this toy still be praised if it was released in the mainline with all the other kid toys instead of the Takara exclusive fanfare? Or would it be labelled as a big gimmicky toy of no consequence?

I'm sure those who praise the thing as "better" missed the memo that it's an OVERSIED version of that voyager, not a "Takara premium paintjob" of yesteryears.

It's the typical TakaraTomy bias that will never go away As for the mainline Voyager comparison, it is similar but some parts feature different engineering like the feet and chest. Referring to Legendary Optimus Prime from AoE is apt however.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:It's the typical TakaraTomy bias that will never go away

Well, I indulged in that bias by ordering the trio of Henkei Seekers from Mandarake. At around 60$CAN shipped each, it's painful, but I just wanted to have a taste of that "superiority" for once.

Get ready for disappointment

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Get ready for disappointment

But.. but...
Chromed missile launchers...

CHROME!

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Are we seeing the same thing? Am I missing something?


What hollowness do you see?
Its entirely different to the Voyager we have from the main line, and we have not yet seen the Studio Series Leader class version I don't think, and it has a ton of features the main line primal doesn't have including articulated hands and forearm guns.
I don't see SS having launchable missiles either.

Last time Takara did their own version of a toy, it was great upgrade. That Legendary Prime is in fact a fantastic figure, leagues better than the original Evasion mode Prime.

Overcracker wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't know if that big Primal is worth it after all.

As I look at the pictures, it's clear it's just the oversized voyager, hollows in the same place, tiny gorilla head, and floppy butt-flap.
So I guess this one will be an easy pass.

Are we seeing the same thing? Am I missing something?


What hollowness do you see?
Its entirely different to the Voyager we have from the main line, and we have not yet seen the Studio Series Leader class version I don't think, and it has a ton of features the main line primal doesn't have including articulated hands and forearm guns.
I don't see SS having launchable missiles either.

Last time Takara did their own version of a toy, it was great upgrade. That Legendary Prime is in fact a fantastic figure, leagues better than the original Evasion mode Prime.

The only things that are different are the articulated hands and other little details. It have the same hinges in the same place, the same proportions, the same everything.
Down to the hollowness of the hands as seen here and mos likely behind the ape feet if those were properly transformed and if we'd see the back.

Have a look:




Granted, it IS a new mold, but like that Hero Optimus or those old Optimus and Predaking "Cyberverse Commanders" boosted to enormous "voyagers". I don't see how much more...

This...

Huge...

Pointless...

Thing.. will,...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD FOKKING DAMMIT!



Oh well...

That Primal looks so awesome! That paint job looks really nice in robot mode. I preordered from BBTS, I am excited for that one.

they really did nail the design for movie Primal. He might have one of the best movie designs period, across all movies.

Speaking of Primal, my big electronic one arrived, and I got the smaller $10 Prime and Bee. All 3 are neat.

i adore Prime and Bee with Mirage, all 3 are pretty good and pretty fun $10 toys. I got exactly what I expected and wanted for the price, and I am very happy with them, Alt modes rock too.

Big Primal is also just a really fun toy. It really entertains me. I am glad to have an auto-transforming toy, just once for my collection. And he is fun to mess around with, and for my dogs to react to.







Sorry for the background noise, but I am very amused by Primal responding to Mountain Monsters

Fatimus Primal!

I'd like it but he cost almost as much as a freaking TITAN so unless the thing pop up at my local geek store who can accept my random rejects as store credits, I'll have to pass on that big electronic Primal.

As long as Primal has a butt flap, I don't want it. I'd rather stick with my non-transforming Yolo Park Primal if a flap-less Primal never comes out.

that is a nice looking Primal, though if I do decide to get it I'll go with EE for only $60 and get free shipping!

Any idea why the Yolopark Optimus Prime kit doesn't come with a weapon?

I am just loving this '77 Camaro alt mode for Bee

So I'm sure I'm one of the select few that CAN care less for this movie and toy line. I wish it was 2 month's from now so this line whittles off the shelves.

I found it hilarious at a local Target the endcap for this line was but in the back isle instead of the main isle. Instead they put Jurassic Park Anniversary on the endcap main isle. Is it a mistake? We'll see in the coming days.

Maximize!!!



Rhinox:

A second Freezer was a must for Scourge.



With his custom tanker that I made, it works perfectly.



And it works even more to take down that pesky Optimus Prime!

I'd love to see a battle master Freezer, I think Hasbro can pull it off. Of course by this point it would've to be made and ready to ship.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'd love to see a battle master Freezer, I think Hasbro can pull it off. Of course by this point it would've to be made and ready to ship.

I'd love it too and he would be a bit more in scale.
Too bad it will never happen.

When Takara announced their Ultimate Optimus Primal, many thought this was a return to form for leader class toys. In reality, it's more of an oversized figure, along the lines of Supreme Starscream. While there is plenty to love about that too, we just want you to get a good sense of what kind of toy this is before spending $60 on it. The video Takara posted on Twitter shows the transformation steps which has similarities to both the voyager and the Weaponizer Optimus Primal we got in the mainline.

Let us know what you think!

Link to Twitter video: https://twitter.com/tf_pr/status/166809 ... qt5dGpQuQg

What I think ?

That transformation is PERFECT.

Simple, effective, no tiny bits to struggle with, just pure fun.

I'm looking forward to it.

Why would anybody expect an Ultimate class figure to be a good Leader class one? I mean on the one hand why wouldn't they just call it Leader class if it is one and on the other hand we will be getting a Studio Series Leader class figure of RotB Optimus Primal this year. So it doesn't make sense to release two. It's very likely that it'll even be revealed next Tuesday.
And when I hear Ultimate (class) I think of something like TF Prime Beast Hunters Ultimate class Beast Fire Predaking. Definitely a gimmick toy.
Here's a list of all of the Ultimate (/Supreme) class figures there've been so far:
http://www.transformers-universe.com/in ... gebnis.php (just set "Class" to "Ultimate (Supreme")
The closest ones to Leader class are DotM Optimus Prime and maybe BM Air Attack Optimus Primal.

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why would anybody expect an Ultimate class figure to be a good Leader class one? I mean on the one hand why wouldn't they just call it Leader class if it is one and on the other hand we will be getting a Studio Series Leader class figure of RotB Optimus Primal this year. So it doesn't make sense to release two. It's very likely that it'll even be revealed next Tuesday.
And when I hear Ultimate (class) I think of something like TF Prime Beast Hunters Ultimate class Beast Fire Predaking. Definitely a gimmick toy.
Here's a list of all of the Ultimate (/Supreme) class figures there've been so far:
http://www.transformers-universe.com/in ... gebnis.php (just set "Class" to "Ultimate (Supreme")

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The closest ones to Leader class are DotM Optimus Prime and maybe BM Air Attack Optimus Primal.

Yup, you mention excellent examples.

I was excited for this one. But the size kind of threw me off. Then the simplicity. I have 2 of the weaponizers one. They are great in their own right. This one, I don't know.

It's an Optimus Primal. There's only so much you can do with a Gorilla that becomes a Gorilla-ish robot. They're all simple.

Giant Purple Griffin wrote:It's an Optimus Primal. There's only so much you can do with a Gorilla that becomes a Gorilla-ish robot. They're all simple.

Especially the ROTB one, where the bot and beast are almost identical to each-other.
We are pretty far from the Beast Wars cartoon.

Giant Purple Griffin wrote:It's an Optimus Primal. There's only so much you can do with a Gorilla that becomes a Gorilla-ish robot. They're all simple.

The MP release begs to differ. Takara really did an impressive job recreating the sleek and curvy shape of both modes but cramming in everything they could to make both modes appear as accurate as possible. And man, they really go all out with that transformation, having the back rotate 180, and having the back of the robot shins become the beast thighs. Plus providing the proper functioning so that he can be both bipedal and walk on all 4s in beast mode.

We've seen other pretty cool transformations for Primal, like some of the Beast Machines toys and the 10th anniversary one that's a completely new mold and look. Optimus Primal can be as simple or as complex as they want him to be, just like Optimus Prime.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Especially the ROTB one, where the bot and beast are almost identical to each-other.
We are pretty far from the Beast Wars cartoon.

While my post above was for Primal in general, yes the ROTB one is tougher to add complexity since his on screen transformation is just building on top of the gorilla. Like him turning inside out in a way:



BUT Still, the toys we've gotten themselves show that complexity can vary. The Weaponizer goes with the complete chest inside out flip, like this Ultimate one, while the voyager has a superposition approach. So instead of 1 piece moving, you have 3 (tripling the complexity for that step right there).
The feet are another good way to assess where steps are being cut. For the weapinizer, it's just rotating them, but for the voyager you have the robot feet completely dissapearing in robot mode, folding into the gorilla shins. This ultimate toy doesn't have that and instead just has you flip the robot feet present in beast mode and you just flip them down for robot mode.

We'll get a leader class studio series one as well and I do expect it to be more complex than either of the ones we've gotten thus far.

Well... I think that the transofrmation in the beasts figures is always plan.
The figure itself is good but the price is too high.

I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?

Emerje

there are some screws and pins. These come somewhat assembled, like 3 torso portions, 4 parts per limb, etc. They are 10 minute kits to assembled, but that helps with how solid they are, no small parts to just fly away

Emerje wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?

Emerje

I was curious too and went for it. $50 CAD shipped didn't seem bad.

And yes, they come partly assembled

https://preview.redd.it/yoloparks-new-p ... ee043bd721

And while they do look good, they are indeed model kits and not full blown action figures. So the plastic feels light, and the figure is very gappy. You don't see it in the images, but it's full of holes everywhere.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Emerje wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

I've been really curious about those, but was worried they wouldn't look as good as the stock photos when assembled, but those look great! But am I seeing screw holes and pins? Are these partially assembled?

Emerje

there are some screws and pins. These come somewhat assembled, like 3 torso portions, 4 parts per limb, etc. They are 10 minute kits to assembled, but that helps with how solid they are, no small parts to just fly away

william-james88 wrote:I was curious too and went for it. $50 CAD shipped didn't seem bad.

And yes, they come partly assembled

https://preview.redd.it/yoloparks-new-p ... ee043bd721

And while they do look good, they are indeed model kits and not full blown action figures. So the plastic feels light, and the figure is very gappy. You don't see it in the images, but it's full of holes everywhere.

Thanks, guys! That's very intriguing. I got a good sense of the gaps in some of D-Max's other pics, I can see that Primal's legs can be looked through from the side and that doesn't bother me. Maybe I'll grab Primal if BBTS takes pre-orders again.

Emerje

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

How do you deal with Primal's collar piece? Mine keeps getting undone whenever I articulate his head.

Also, I built this with my kids and we all found it funny that while a lot of it is done, one part that needs to be affixed is his butt.

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I got the Yolopark Primal and Bee. These are super sweet

How do you deal with Primal's collar piece? Mine keeps getting undone whenever I articulate his head.

Also, I built this with my kids and we all found it funny that while a lot of it is done, one part that needs to be affixed is his butt.

My collar piece has been no trouble at all so far.

i too found it funny that his butt flap was that random piece you needed to still attach.

For a comparison if anyone was interested



Sting like a Bee

Do we know why Primal is the only kit that comes with weapons?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do we know why Primal is the only kit that comes with weapons?

Parts count?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Do we know why Primal is the only kit that comes with weapons?

No idea, if Bee came with his mask and twin arm cannons, I would be completely content and not tempted by the ThreeZero one.

As for Prime, I would actually get him if he came with his gun, sword, and axe.

As for Primal, this guy just looks so good

Here are some pics of that Primal from me.

Primal does look really good.

With how the movie has been doing, do you think we'll see the next wave of Beast Alliance? It's hard already to find what's supposed to be out.

Now, this is all heresy since I can't confirm anything, so take out the big bottle of Himalayan sea salt, Target apparently is pulling listings for the Core line. Now they're saying the figures will be released later in the year under a "Kid Friendly" Studio Series line.

I got the Flex Changer Nightbird, and she is interesting. I wasn't sure on this gimmick, but it seems interesting enough. the price for her is not worth it honestly, but she's a neat novelty. And i think i only need to get a smash changer to have one of all of the RotB gimmicks