New Transformers Evergreen Line Starscream and Megatron Revealed and In-Package Images
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Posted by bacem on September 25th, 2017 @ 11:58am CDT
Posted by leokearon on September 25th, 2017 @ 11:59am CDT
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:02pm CDT
Posted by bacem on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:04pm CDT
Posted by leokearon on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:05pm CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:Oh my word that Megatron is perfect! Usually these smaller figures have a lot of design that is sacrificed for the sake of size and space, but not on these dudes! Only thing that bothers me is Starscreams hanging nosecone, wish that tucked away. Are these guys Legion/Legends class?
They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
Posted by Rysquad on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:09pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:09pm CDT
And o dear... unless it's an error, "Megatron" seemingly needed extra protection in the trademark department. The insert say "Autobot" or "Decepticon" before the name constantly, almost annoyingly so. It looks like this is to make names that need prefixes stand out less, as Megatron's "Decepticon" is missing the appropriate marker, thus making the full trademarked name "Decepticon Megatron"...
Posted by DeathReviews on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:09pm CDT
Posted by bacem on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:12pm CDT
leokearon wrote:They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
so, around deluxe size?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:13pm CDT
bacem wrote:leokearon wrote:They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
so, around deluxe size?
Between Legends and Deluxe.
Posted by whacko on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:13pm CDT
I'm curious why these guys get elbow-bend when the Optimus Prime and Bumblebee shown the the other day don't. Lack of elbow articulation, even in these smaller toys, is enough to prevent me from buying them.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT
Little smaller. Think the height of an ordinary Star Wars action figure.bacem wrote:leokearon wrote:They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
so, around deluxe size?
Posted by bacem on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Little smaller. Think the height of an ordinary Star Wars action figure.bacem wrote:leokearon wrote:They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
so, around deluxe size?
don't own any star wars figure. Around the size of rid figs from minicon battle pack then?
Posted by leokearon on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:23pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Little smaller. Think the height of an ordinary Star Wars action figure.bacem wrote:leokearon wrote:They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
so, around deluxe size?
Star wars figures are 3.75 inches. 4.5 inches is rescue bot size according to various websites
Posted by Microraptor on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:26pm CDT
Posted by hurricane567 on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:27pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:30pm CDT
bacem wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Little smaller. Think the height of an ordinary Star Wars action figure.bacem wrote:leokearon wrote:They are 4.5 inches which is about the same height as a standard Rescue Bot toy
so, around deluxe size?
don't own any star wars figure. Around the size of rid figs from minicon battle pack then?
Bigger, these are small deluxes.r
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 25th, 2017 @ 12:33pm CDT
Posted by Cobotron on September 25th, 2017 @ 1:23pm CDT
All of these look interesting and fun. I don't mind simple, but man, I can't handle sarting a whole new collection of a different scale.
Posted by bluecatcinema on September 25th, 2017 @ 1:27pm CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on September 25th, 2017 @ 1:34pm CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on September 25th, 2017 @ 1:40pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 25th, 2017 @ 1:57pm CDT
So yeah, small deluxes that wont scale with anything else. And if anyone of you also visits other forums, you might want to tell the TFW board members that since they look super confused over this.
Posted by Kurona on September 25th, 2017 @ 2:22pm CDT
Posted by bacem on September 25th, 2017 @ 6:40pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:To all those wondering wha the scale is and how big they are, here is a perfect example. They are as big as the galvatron you see in the image below next to deluxe warpath.
So yeah, small deluxes that wont scale with anything else. And if anyone of you also visits other forums, you might want to tell the TFW board members that since they look super confused over this.
actually, if that is their size, then i think they will scale with RID warrior class. Warpath is a big deluxe if compared with non-chug toy nowadays. That galvatron is pretty much the same size as rid warrior class.
Posted by WreckerJack on September 25th, 2017 @ 8:07pm CDT
Posted by No One on September 25th, 2017 @ 8:10pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 25th, 2017 @ 8:34pm CDT
MR Optimus Prime wrote:TRANSFORMERS fans... the more Chinese knock off level figures they target at 3-5 year olds, the more they just prepare them to grow up with the very figures we dislike. Do not purchase these for your children. Teach your children about quality, and to not just accept what is thrown at them.
What IS "Quality" though?
Because the point of these figures is to have simple transformers that are more complex and less "baby" looking than Rescue Bots. For a (allegedly) decent price.
Even parents have trouble transforming the standard movie deluxe. Also, those deluxes have tiny parts that detach and get lost very easily.
So those "evergreen" figures fit the specs necessary for it's target demographic. THAT is GOOD quality. The quality expected and asked for.
Only if those sell for the same price (or more expensive) than normal deluxes will they become of "bad" quality.
Posted by Ig89ninja on September 25th, 2017 @ 8:50pm CDT
hurricane567 wrote:Megatron is a Kanonenjagdpanzer? Neat!
You know, if you remove a few letters, you get a Kaon Panzer, which actually sounds like a cool name for a cybertronian tank!
Posted by Sunburnninja on September 25th, 2017 @ 9:11pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 25th, 2017 @ 10:05pm CDT
MR Optimus Prime wrote:TRANSFORMERS fans... the more Chinese knock off level figures they target at 3-5 year olds, the more they just prepare them to grow up with the very figures we dislike. Do not purchase these for your children. Teach your children about quality, and to not just accept what is thrown at them.
But didnt 80s kids grow up with simple TF toys that looked nothing like the show and were barely painted and lacked articulation?
Like this one?
Think of where we would be if parents didnt buy those?
I fail to see how these are any different.
Posted by Qwan on September 25th, 2017 @ 10:36pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:MR Optimus Prime wrote:TRANSFORMERS fans... the more Chinese knock off level figures they target at 3-5 year olds, the more they just prepare them to grow up with the very figures we dislike. Do not purchase these for your children. Teach your children about quality, and to not just accept what is thrown at them.
But didnt 80s kids grow up with simple TF toys that looked nothing like the show and were barely painted and lacked articulation?
Like this one?
Think of where we would be if parents didnt buy those?
I fail to see how these are any different.
Well said, Will. We didn't have to grow up on Masterpieces to appreciate Masterpieces; if you'd given most (or, I'd wager, any) of us something of that level for our first Transformer when we were 5 - probably around the target age for these figures I'm guessing - we'd have been totally turned off Transformers for a fair while, if not permanently. Regardless what standards we hold these toys to, they do transform, and they do look good and play well. That's all they need to do, and they do it well.
That said of course, I won't be getting any of these for myself - as an older fan, I do admittedly prefer more complex and articulated figures. I really like the designs though; I'm really hoping we get them in something closer to RiD Warrior Class as well as these versions .
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on September 26th, 2017 @ 2:05am CDT
william-james88 wrote:But didnt 80s kids grow up with simple TF toys that looked nothing like the show and were barely painted and lacked articulation?
Like this one?
Think of where we would be if parents didnt buy those?
I fail to see how these are any different.
Eh I dunno. The only mini-bots I had were Cosmos and Powerglide and I liked them but even back then when I was a tiny little thing I still found them depressingly basic and I still prefered the more complex detailed bots and Jetfire was my absolute fave overall and despite mostly poorer articulation in the 80s toys (bar Jetfire and a few others) they still pee all over this Prime, Bee, Megs and Screamer in design and general quality appearance.
Hell I was thinking the same thing the other day when I picked up an RID Warrior Class Bumblebee at car boot sale and thinking how ridiculously blocky and crap it looks compared to G1 toys.
Posted by No One on September 26th, 2017 @ 3:15am CDT
william-james88 wrote:MR Optimus Prime wrote:TRANSFORMERS fans... the more Chinese knock off level figures they target at 3-5 year olds, the more they just prepare them to grow up with the very figures we dislike. Do not purchase these for your children. Teach your children about quality, and to not just accept what is thrown at them.
But didnt 80s kids grow up with simple TF toys that looked nothing like the show and were barely painted and lacked articulation?
Like this one?
Think of where we would be if parents didnt buy those?
I fail to see how these are any different.
You are SO smart for comparing a 30+ year old figure here.
Posted by bacem on September 26th, 2017 @ 3:23am CDT
MR Optimus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:MR Optimus Prime wrote:TRANSFORMERS fans... the more Chinese knock off level figures they target at 3-5 year olds, the more they just prepare them to grow up with the very figures we dislike. Do not purchase these for your children. Teach your children about quality, and to not just accept what is thrown at them.
But didnt 80s kids grow up with simple TF toys that looked nothing like the show and were barely painted and lacked articulation?
Like this one?
Think of where we would be if parents didnt buy those?
I fail to see how these are any different.
You are SO smart for comparing a 30+ year old figure here.
i'm sorry if we are misunderstand, but your post sounds like it was implying "the toys from old toys was much better and not like a knock off", thus he is just mentioning that the toys from the olden times wasn't any better either.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 26th, 2017 @ 4:42am CDT
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Can't find the damn picture but it was a promo shot with a kid and his mom and the kid was holding a ROTF leader Optimus whose transformation was given up mid-way.
Anyway, to project adult tastes on a kid is quite immature. Also, don't overestimate a parent's skills. Many are just barely able to open and close a door yet alone transforming a standard TF.
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 26th, 2017 @ 8:54am CDT
Like Beast Wars, or RID, or Armada..I know, I am a Geewunner who is whinning about too much G-1 Inspired merchandise continually coming out, revamping the look just a bit, stylized a bit more.. but essentially they are always going back to the original for inspiration and story ideas.
It's nice.. But I kinda want to see something that gives us updated figures based on the best of the entire universe or genre.
I'd love to see a Hasbro or Takara version of updated figures from Armada, and RID. The Cars in RID were pretty cool. Much better then the shell formers some of the Armada Line up had. I loved the Ultra Magnus and Optimus Fire Truck combo mode..
wonder when the Armada generation of adults will be demanding their own toyline like us old timer Geewunners?
Or would RID be a better line to release with new and better engineered figures??
Only the future will tell, but it's definitely a great time to be a Transformers Fan, and a G-1 Alum.
Posted by bacem on September 26th, 2017 @ 9:46am CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:You know what's funny.. every iteration of the new Transformers stuff coming out, is basically a retread of G-1. It's like Hasbro forgot that there were other series..
Like Beast Wars, or RID, or Armada..I know, I am a Geewunner who is whinning about too much G-1 Inspired merchandise continually coming out, revamping the look just a bit, stylized a bit more.. but essentially they are always going back to the original for inspiration and story ideas.
It's nice.. But I kinda want to see something that gives us updated figures based on the best of the entire universe or genre.
I'd love to see a Hasbro or Takara version of updated figures from Armada, and RID. The Cars in RID were pretty cool. Much better then the shell formers some of the Armada Line up had. I loved the Ultra Magnus and Optimus Fire Truck combo mode..
wonder when the Armada generation of adults will be demanding their own toyline like us old timer Geewunners?
Or would RID be a better line to release with new and better engineered figures??
Only the future will tell, but it's definitely a great time to be a Transformers Fan, and a G-1 Alum.
we actually got updated beast wars rhinox, waspinator, and rattrap. We also got rid sky byte, armada starscream, and beast machines tankor. That being said, i do agree with you. I'll take what i can get, but if we can get a line with lots of rid and cybertron updates, that would be nice. I would like to see them updating rid datsun brothers, as well as cybertron starscream
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 26th, 2017 @ 9:53am CDT
bacem wrote:skywarp-2 wrote:You know what's funny.. every iteration of the new Transformers stuff coming out, is basically a retread of G-1. It's like Hasbro forgot that there were other series..
Like Beast Wars, or RID, or Armada..I know, I am a Geewunner who is whinning about too much G-1 Inspired merchandise continually coming out, revamping the look just a bit, stylized a bit more.. but essentially they are always going back to the original for inspiration and story ideas.
It's nice.. But I kinda want to see something that gives us updated figures based on the best of the entire universe or genre.
I'd love to see a Hasbro or Takara version of updated figures from Armada, and RID. The Cars in RID were pretty cool. Much better then the shell formers some of the Armada Line up had. I loved the Ultra Magnus and Optimus Fire Truck combo mode..
wonder when the Armada generation of adults will be demanding their own toyline like us old timer Geewunners?
Or would RID be a better line to release with new and better engineered figures??
Only the future will tell, but it's definitely a great time to be a Transformers Fan, and a G-1 Alum.
we actually got updated beast wars rhinox, waspinator, and rattrap. We also got rid sky byte, armada starscream, and beast machines tankor. That being said, i do agree with you. I'll take what i can get, but if we can get a line with lots of rid and cybertron updates, that would be nice. I would like to see them updating rid datsun brothers, as well as cybertron starscream
Oh man! I FORGOT about the Datsun Bros! They were pretty cool! I loved Cybertron Starscream too! He was a great looking figure! Yea, I suppose we got some trickles coming out. Maybe there will be a flood of them later.. where there's a trickle, there is always a leak and then a flood.. here's hoping to see some Robots in Disguise toyline figures, an Armada reformatted Prime, and Megatron, and hopefully some more figures from other series to come!
Posted by Sabrblade on September 26th, 2017 @ 9:57am CDT
For just one year because that year, 2014, was a brand anniversary year.bacem wrote:we actually got updated beast wars rhinox, waspinator, and rattrap. We also got rid sky byte, armada starscream, and beast machines tankor.
And, well, the old brand team was still around back then for that year, which happened to also be that brand team's final year before the current Warden-headed brand team succeeded them with the AOE and CW lines.
Posted by Overcracker on September 26th, 2017 @ 10:21am CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:
I'd love to see a Hasbro or Takara version of updated figures from Armada, and RID. The Cars in RID were pretty cool. Much better then the shell formers some of the Armada Line up had. I loved the Ultra Magnus and Optimus Fire Truck combo mode..
Armada shellformers? I believe you are confused. If anything Armada was known for its blocky and not-shelformery toys. The most shelformery you got was Red Alert, and he used most of his SUV mode for his lights and sounds and minicon gimmicks.
All other deluxes were pretty much blocks made from car parts.
R.I.D on the other hand thrived on shell-forming. SideBurn, and Prowl used pretty much nothing of their cars modes for their robot modes. They are still awesome toys, but after BW, they were still just robots tucked inside a car shell. Even Prime's base Robot mode used very little of the Firetruck in his robot mode.
R.I.D Sideburn (85% of the car hangs of his back and left arm)
Armada Wheeljack (70% of his car makes up body parts, and only a minor portion is his gimmicky backpack).
On the topic of updates, Hasbro has attempted to gives updated figures of other lines. Such was the case with Universe Dinobot and Cheetor. And Universe Hot Shot. Combiner Wars gave us Armada Megatron, and Titans Return gave us Tidal Wave. etc... Obviously some have been more successful than others.
Takara even gave s Armada Thrust for their Unite Warriors line as a combiner limb for Grand Galvatron.
Posted by skywarp-2 on September 26th, 2017 @ 10:25am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:For just one year because that year, 2014, was a brand anniversary year.bacem wrote:we actually got updated beast wars rhinox, waspinator, and rattrap. We also got rid sky byte, armada starscream, and beast machines tankor.
And, well, the old brand team was still around back then for that year, which happened to also be that brand team's final year before the current Warden-headed brand team succeeded them with the AOE and CW lines.
I loved RID Prowl, he was one of my Fav car bots from CAR ROBOTS OR RID.\
Now if they can give us some New Molded bots that match the animation models more closely, I would pick them up for sure!
especially an Omega Prime 2 pack!
Maybe they'll do an Omega Prime in the Power of the Primes line up??
Posted by Sabrblade on September 26th, 2017 @ 10:27am CDT
Not to mention a certain other Armada figure.Overcracker wrote:Armada shellformers? I believe you are confused. If anything Armada was known for its blocky and not-shelformery toys. The most shelformery you got was Red Alert,
Posted by Kurona on September 26th, 2017 @ 10:33am CDT
Posted by Overcracker on September 26th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention a certain other Armada figure.Overcracker wrote:Armada shellformers? I believe you are confused. If anything Armada was known for its blocky and not-shelformery toys. The most shelformery you got was Red Alert,
Oh, yes forgot about him.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 26th, 2017 @ 7:19pm CDT
So many wants...
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 27th, 2017 @ 7:58am CDT
That's what I am waiting for...
Posted by primalxconvoy on September 27th, 2017 @ 7:58am CDT
That's what I am waiting for...
Posted by Va'al on September 27th, 2017 @ 1:06pm CDT
Name of the line is Transformers, but we're chucking in a size to help us distinguish!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 27th, 2017 @ 3:53pm CDT