New Transformers Generations Selects Combiner Teased

Awwwwwwwwwwww yeah!!!

This is an exciting release. My BWII Galvatron and Gigastorm are looking forward to this!

I was hoping for a dinoking/monstructor or a better leokaiser with leozack, jaguar and death cobra

I would have bought this if I had not handled Piranacon before this. I'm happy I have Piranacon, but he's just so floppy I do not want to spend the money again on this.

ausbot wrote:I was hoping for a dinoking/monstructor or a better leokaiser with leozack, jaguar and death cobra

The Selects manga has been strongly hinting at God Neptune being next for some time now.

I may pick up the odd member or two. I generally prefer Piranacon's colors, but I'd be interested in Halfshell and maybe Sea Phantom and Terrormander. Though, if they make God Neptune a boxset instead, I'll probably get them all

If it is God Neptune, I'll definitely pick up Scylla as I missed out on Tentakil, and probably a couple others. I don't have an attachment to King Poseidon or God Neptune but I can always use more Decepticon beasts and limbs. I wonder if these will have the same hands or will they change up the deco, like how the PotP Terrorcons and Ladybots came with hands that matched their own colors.

If it is God Neptune, I'm going to be in for it. May even pick up an extra Scylla, since she's the only BWII toy I have.

Does Nautilator / Lobclaw make it to the team finally? Will they have all of their accessories or just the ones necessary for the large trident sword?

BWII "Lobclaw" / "Nautilator" was on my list for a Botcon "G1" molds set along with G1 Scramble City recolors for Alpha Bravo, Offroad, Rook and Sling Shot as Blast Off (or a new name). I thought a five pack of those guys along with a recolor of one of the G1 torsos would have made an amazing Botcon or Club set to honor the history of the brand. Ah, things that never were!

Wow, what a surprise, totally didn’t see this coming.

I’m more surprised this is happening so soon after King Poseidon/Piranacon was finished, didn’t even let the new-bot smell disseminate. I would’ve liked to have seen a couple more releases after Super Megatron before we got to here.

Seibertron wrote:BWII "Lobclaw" / "Nautilator" was on my list for a Botcon "G1" molds set along with G1 Scramble City recolors for Alpha Bravo, Offroad, Rook and Sling Shot as Blast Off (or a new name). I thought a five pack of those guys along with a recolor of one of the G1 torsos would have made an amazing Botcon or Club set to honor the history of the brand. Ah, things that never were!

This, this is what would’ve finally got me to actively start getting the G1 combiners. I wonder if they would be totally new molds, simple redecoes, or both?

Guys, are we sure it's Lobclaw and not Overbite? Their heads are similar in shape, with Overbite's being the smoother of the two. Plus, its position confirms to Seaphantom, the Overbite redeco.

Mindmaster wrote:

Seibertron wrote:BWII "Lobclaw" / "Nautilator" was on my list for a Botcon "G1" molds set along with G1 Scramble City recolors for Alpha Bravo, Offroad, Rook and Sling Shot as Blast Off (or a new name). I thought a five pack of those guys along with a recolor of one of the G1 torsos would have made an amazing Botcon or Club set to honor the history of the brand. Ah, things that never were!

This, this is what would’ve finally got me to actively start getting the G1 combiners. I wonder if they would be totally new molds, simple redecoes, or both?

In the spirit of Combiners Wars, it'd have to be redecos, since that was what all of those guys were. Though a slight remold or parts swap with other molds if able (such as heads or something) would be possibly great.

Blast Off from the G1 Slingshot mold
Rook from G1 Brawl (?)
Offroad from G1 Swindle
Alpha Bravo from G1 Blades
BW2 "Clawfest" (?) from G1 Nautilator

Seibertron wrote:BWII "Lobclaw" / "Nautilator" was on my list for a Botcon "G1" molds set along with G1 Scramble City recolors for Alpha Bravo, Offroad, Rook and Sling Shot as Blast Off (or a new name). I thought a five pack of those guys along with a recolor of one of the G1 torsos would have made an amazing Botcon or Club set to honor the history of the brand. Ah, things that never were!

As interesting as that idea sounds, Fun Pub could only use G1 molds that were made available via contemporary reissues.

The Piranacon recolor in 2008 happened because that set had already been planned by Hasbro as a Walmart release, so it was ready to go before Fun Pub got to release it. BBTS then got a reissue of their own in 2010, which could also explain how/why these molds were available for Fun Pub to use in 2008 if Hasbro had planned the BBTS reissue in advance.

Meanwhile, the G1 Spike Headmaster mold was made available for the BotCon 2014 Scorponok because of Encore Fort Max's release in 2013. Same with the Grand Max shell for TFSS 2016 Megatron having been found by Takara along with the Fort Max tooling.

Those were the only G1 molds Fun Pub ever released.

With that in mind, the G1 Vortex and Swindle molds were reissued in the Encore Bruticus set in 2009, so it is possible that those two molds may have been made available for an Alpha Bravo and an Offroad redeco, respectively, but not the Slingshot mold since there's never been a Superion reissue post-1994. Nor any Defensor reissue, so no Blades mold either. Worse still, by the time Fun Pub was doing Combiner Wars-inspired toys was when Hasbro decided to end BotCon and the Collectors Club, so any attempts at any G1-molded versions of the new CW characters wouldn't have had a chance to come from Fun Pub before their license expired, and by which point the final two years' exclusives had already been planned out in advance to use actual CW molds due to an earlier request from Hasbro for Fun Pub to have their Combiner Wars toys reflect what Hasbro was doing with the line at mass retail.

Twas indeed a frustrating time for anyone wanting G1-mold Fun Pub exclusives.

Sabrblade wrote:Twas indeed a frustrating time for anyone wanting G1-mold Fun Pub exclusives.

It's still frustrating that G1 reissues or mold re-uses doesn't happen. So much potential.

Pretender Cliffjumper, Pretender Skywarp, and Pretender Thundercracker would have been high on my list as well. But this sounds like the beginning of an entirely different topic!

Seibertron wrote:Alpha Bravo from G1 Blades

I like this idea, but why Blades instead of Vortex, the guy the CW figure was a pre-mold of? If it's because there's too many Combaticon proxies then why not do Rook out of Nosecone?

As for the missing Lobclaw mold, I would just name it Gimlet. For all we know he may be the reason the mold wasn't originally used in the first place. Story-wise, no idea how it would work it probably wouldn't. Brainwashing maybe?

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Alpha Bravo from G1 Blades

I like this idea, but why Blades instead of Vortex, the guy the CW figure was a pre-mold of? If it's because there's too many Combaticon proxies then why not do Rook out of Nosecone?

As for the missing Lobclaw mold, I would just name it Gimlet. For all we know he may be the reason the mold wasn't originally used in the first place. Story-wise, no idea how it would work it probably wouldn't. Brainwashing maybe?

Emerje

I'm game for whatever everyone thinks would work best for those Combiner Wars guys as G1 molds. Yes, Alpha Bravo from Vortex would be better, I think I mixed up my G1 helicopters, and too many Combaticon mold potentials for the Combiner Wars guys. There needed to be one more "car" based G1 Combiner I feel like to give more re-mold capabilities!

I just got my last Seacon today and this is already being announced? Feels a bit soon, but I also wasn't really intending to double-dip on these guys anyway...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Guys, are we sure it's Lobclaw and not Overbite? Their heads are similar in shape, with Overbite's being the smoother of the two. Plus, its position confirms to Seaphantom, the Overbite redeco.

The shape of that limb lad's waist also better matches the rounded shape of Overbite's compared to the outward diagonal slant on Nautilator. While I do think the head shape kinda matches Nautilator more, the combiner is also at an angle in the picture, as evident by looking at the torso (the spacing between the cannons and the chestplate bits aren't right for it to be a head-on shot), which could be throwing off the exact head shape enough to make it that ambiguous.

Seibertron wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Alpha Bravo from G1 Blades

I like this idea, but why Blades instead of Vortex, the guy the CW figure was a pre-mold of? If it's because there's too many Combaticon proxies then why not do Rook out of Nosecone?

As for the missing Lobclaw mold, I would just name it Gimlet. For all we know he may be the reason the mold wasn't originally used in the first place. Story-wise, no idea how it would work it probably wouldn't. Brainwashing maybe?

Emerje

I'm game for whatever everyone thinks would work best for those Combiner Wars guys as G1 molds. Yes, Alpha Bravo from Vortex would be better, I think I mixed up my G1 helicopters, and too many Combaticon mold potentials for the Combiner Wars guys. There needed to be one more "car" based G1 Combiner I feel like to give more re-mold capabilities!

I would have been fine with that. Piranacon never had a direct Scramble City style rival in the G1 line. Superion/Menasor, Bruticus/Defensor, Computron/Abominus.....Piranacon is all on his own. Add Predaking and Devastator into the mix, and Decepticon combiners outnumber the Autobot combiners. I'd actually like to see Hot Spot, Blades and/or Vortex, Breakdown and Dead End G1 molds redone as an original G1 molds Victorion.

If we get G1 reissues of all the combiners, I'd love to see G1 Combiner Wars inspired repaints. Depending how it would work out, we could get G1 Toxitron from Motormaster with Offroad from First Aid, Alpha Bravo from Vortex, Rook from Swindle, and either the God Neptune Lobclaw, or Blast-Off from Slingshot. That way it could reference the Master and Mayhem story with Toxitron as a combiner, and add all of the extras to the original roster.

Or, they could repaint the Stunticons and have Windcharger from Wildrider, Sideswipe from Breakdown, Optimus from Motormaster, Jazz from Dead End, and Mirage from Dragstrip and we could have the combiner from Masquerade

Oh come on, I just dropped $200+ on king posiedon, and now they do this to me? fortunately, since this is they probably won't be out til next year.

God, I'm such a f'ing sucker for combiners, I just hope this is a box set and they don't include the guns, and shave a good chunk off the set; I do hope they remold scylla a little though, just to make her slightly more feminine when compared to tentacool

Bounti76 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Seibertron wrote:Alpha Bravo from G1 Blades

I like this idea, but why Blades instead of Vortex, the guy the CW figure was a pre-mold of? If it's because there's too many Combaticon proxies then why not do Rook out of Nosecone?

As for the missing Lobclaw mold, I would just name it Gimlet. For all we know he may be the reason the mold wasn't originally used in the first place. Story-wise, no idea how it would work it probably wouldn't. Brainwashing maybe?

Emerje

I'm game for whatever everyone thinks would work best for those Combiner Wars guys as G1 molds. Yes, Alpha Bravo from Vortex would be better, I think I mixed up my G1 helicopters, and too many Combaticon mold potentials for the Combiner Wars guys. There needed to be one more "car" based G1 Combiner I feel like to give more re-mold capabilities!

I would have been fine with that. Piranacon never had a direct Scramble City style rival in the G1 line. Superion/Menasor, Bruticus/Defensor, Computron/Abominus.....Piranacon is all on his own. Add Predaking and Devastator into the mix, and Decepticon combiners outnumber the Autobot combiners. I'd actually like to see Hot Spot, Blades and/or Vortex, Breakdown and Dead End G1 molds redone as an original G1 molds Victorion.

I think they're more even if you include the Japanese only Combiners as Raiden takes on Predaking, then you can add Landcross and Road Casear. Plus devys always had his rival omega supreme

Okay so I just remembered that Japan also had Dinoking and Leo kaiser so really, the bots only get the plus 1 in Raiden. Lucky that the bots have characters that can one shot gesalts isn't it

We all figured God Neptune was happening, but man is that fast. Some people are still waiting for their Seacons to arrive in the mail. I thought they would have spaced them out a little more.

IF released as a boxed set, I might consider but I would like it to be a bit more reasonably priced as well since they already have the molds.

Watch this be a Takara Tomy Mall exclusive Boxset

Hey where's Battle Giea and Guard City at.....

Hellscream9999 wrote:I do hope they remold scylla a little though, just to make her slightly more feminine when compared to tentacool

Hey now, female Tentacools are just as common as the male ones, why would one need retooling?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Oh come on, I just dropped $200+ on king posiedon, and now they do this to me? fortunately, since this is they probably won't be out til next year.

God, I'm such a f'ing sucker for combiners, I just hope this is a box set and they don't include the guns, and shave a good chunk off the set; I do hope they remold scylla a little though, just to make her slightly more feminine when compared to tentacool

Frankly, I thought Tentakil is pretty feminine, especially the hips- figures as they're Moonracer's.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think they're more even if you include the Japanese only Combiners as Raiden takes on Predaking, then you can add Landcross and Road Casear. Plus devys always had his rival omega supreme

Okay so I just remembered that Japan also had Dinoking and Leo kaiser so really, the bots only get the plus 1 in Raiden. Lucky that the bots have characters that can one shot gesalts isn't it

I you're counting the non-Combiner Omega Supreme as Devastator's counterpart then you might as well do the same for King Poseidon's original counterpart: Super Ginrai.

It was super Ginrai who I was thinking of when I said about one shoting gesalts (well hmm and Victory Leo when he demolishes Leo Kaiser at the end of Victory... Though thinking further, that's just Ginrai anyway )

Hellscream9999 wrote:Oh come on, I just dropped $200+ on king posiedon, and now they do this to me? fortunately, since this is they probably won't be out til next year.

God, I'm such a f'ing sucker for combiners, I just hope this is a box set and they don't include the guns, and shave a good chunk off the set; I do hope they remold scylla a little though, just to make her slightly more feminine when compared to tentacool

Same here. This one is an easy pass, though. Just like Victorion and Liokaiser. If I'm going to drop that much coin, I need to see some retooling, not just a fresh coat of paint and possibly one less component.

And then there's Monstructor, who's so on his own that you guys forgot him, unless I overlooked a post!

Lore Keeper wrote:We all figured God Neptune was happening, but man is that fast. Some people are still waiting for their Seacons to arrive in the mail. I thought they would have spaced them out a little more.

Some are still waiting for the invoice too!

Since this is just now being teased, I bet it won't come out until early next year. And I really hope that it's a Unite Warriors styled boxset.

Seibertron wrote:And then there's Monstructor, who's so on his own that you guys forgot him, unless I overlooked a post!

I haven't forgotten, I really want him, he is the last US G1 combiner to come, and honestly is one of my favorite combiners in US G1.

I wonder if Monstructor will honestly ever happen. For one thing, (unless I'm mistaken), only his Japanese counterpart, Dinoking, was ever sold in Japan. If they only did the inner robots, I could see a tiny possibility that they could be redecoed into Monstructor. But with Takara being the ones to initiate and release the Seacons, who were sold as is in both countries, I don't see Hasbro taking the lead on any potential Monstructor. Not to mention, he's not a Scramble City style combiner. The only other combiners who he really resemble buildwise is Liokaiser and Devastator... they both have two torso components and the limbs (who aren't interchangeable, as I recall).

Seibertron wrote:And then there's Monstructor, who's so on his own that you guys forgot him, unless I overlooked a post!

I was just counting him in with Dinoking since they are the same toy barring colours and their pretender shells.

Bounti76 wrote:I wonder if Monstructor will honestly ever happen. For one thing, (unless I'm mistaken), only his Japanese counterpart, Dinoking, was ever sold in Japan. If they only did the inner robots, I could see a tiny possibility that they could be redecoed into Monstructor. But with Takara being the ones to initiate and release the Seacons, who were sold as is in both countries, I don't see Hasbro taking the lead on any potential Monstructor. Not to mention, he's not a Scramble City style combiner. The only other combiners who he really resemble buildwise is Liokaiser and Devastator... they both have two torso components and the limbs (who aren't interchangeable, as I recall).

You're right as the fists are molded in to the arm components so they have a set right and left.

The problem with saying they'll never happen is that we know there was plans of some kind from the fact that we saw snarl with alt mode weapons matching one of the Dino Force dinosaur shells and cutthroat with one of the monster pretenders heads. Had Power of the Primes continued, we'd likely have seen them made.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I wonder if Monstructor will honestly ever happen. For one thing, (unless I'm mistaken), only his Japanese counterpart, Dinoking, was ever sold in Japan. If they only did the inner robots, I could see a tiny possibility that they could be redecoed into Monstructor. But with Takara being the ones to initiate and release the Seacons, who were sold as is in both countries, I don't see Hasbro taking the lead on any potential Monstructor. Not to mention, he's not a Scramble City style combiner. The only other combiners who he really resemble buildwise is Liokaiser and Devastator... they both have two torso components and the limbs (who aren't interchangeable, as I recall).

You're right as the fists are molded in to the arm components so they have a set right and left.

The problem with saying they'll never happen is that we know there was plans of some kind from the fact that we saw snarl with alt mode weapons matching one of the Dino Force dinosaur shells and cutthroat with one of the monster pretenders heads. Had Power of the Primes continued, we'd likely have seen them made.

Right, and I could see them happening if they're remolded from Prime Wars Trilogy molds, but then we'd get something similar to CW Liokaiser. Given the unique construction of Monstructor/Dinoking, unless they had two all new molds to form the torso, I think a lot of people would pass.

I suppose it was the easy/inevitable choice (God Neptune). I had the original for a while before I sold my old collection. It will be a nice addition, but the evil combiners are really outnumbering the heroic now. We need Raiden, Road Caesar and Landcross, oh and G2 Defensor would be nice... .

Incidentally, I'd love for this to be a UW styled box set, but I don't see that happening.


I do hope it is a while before pre-orders, hopefully TFSource gets their 3rd wave of Seacons before God Neptune pre-orders start

Oh definitely, and I think that's what would have happened, Hasbro wouldn't have put the work in that was needed to do it right.

I'm still hoping for some modern form of Pretenders before they jump on to Monstructor, who saw a resurgence as one of the more popular combiners in the IDW 2005 Universe (or at least most used). For whatever reason, the Pretenders were some of my favorite G1 toys and characters. The two "separate" toys in 1 really got me as a kid, and then their usage in the Marvel comics after the cartoon ended helped me use my imagination more with them when I made my own comics as a kid. Fast forward another 7 or 8 years later and I discovered Masterforce and Victory on bootleg VHS at Motor City Comic-Con around 1994 or 1995. My love for the Pretenders was re-ignited after discovering the concept was used in the Japanese cartoons.

One day! I have faith that Hasbro and Takara will come up with something cool for the Pretenders at some point.

Monstructor's team could work just fine without the Pretender shells.

Anyone get a figure with backwards beast mode legs? Just got Kraken (Seawing) today and this don't look right.
Edit: NVM, the tail was flipped in the box lol after rotating the waist my figure looks right

216 photos of Kraken / Seawing for your viewing pleasure and for comparison purposes ...


Transformers Generations Selects Seawing (Kraken) Gallery

Now that you mention it, maybe that's why I had him mistransformed in some of the pictures (most notably any of the beast mode comparison pics with other Seacons and his G1 version ... I re-shot the pics of him in beast mode by himself after realizing I had him mistransformed). His instructions show him with his legs assembled the same way as ours, though I feel like the legs should be positioned the other way as well. However, the single point sticking forward is more like how his G1 toy was, which is how the Generations Selects version is assembled.

Seibertron wrote:216 photos of Kraken / Seawing for your viewing pleasure and for comparison purposes ...


Transformers Generations Selects Seawing (Kraken) Gallery

Now that you mention it, maybe that's why I had him mistransformed in some of the pictures (most notably any of the beast mode comparison pics with other Seacons and his G1 version ... I re-shot the pics of him in beast mode by himself after realizing I had him mistransformed). His instructions show him with his legs assembled the same way as ours, though I feel like the legs should be positioned the other way as well. However, the single point sticking forward is more like how his G1 toy was, which is how the Generations Selects version is assembled.

I'm horrible with the instructions so I always find a review and follow along. In the review, the chicken legs were facing opposite of mine with the tail sticking up. That's when I realized I needed to rotate the waist.

Hunting down Overbite and Tentakill will be a pain. I've had to cancel the preorders since I couldn't afford them during their intended release date and now the predorders are all sold out. Ah well, they shouldn't be completely impossible to get them afterward. Costly, but not impossible.

Interesting...so TFSource finally stopped taking pre-orders for those 2...Not sure if that's a good or bad thing...

aronjlove wrote:

Seibertron wrote:216 photos of Kraken / Seawing for your viewing pleasure and for comparison purposes ...


Transformers Generations Selects Seawing (Kraken) Gallery

Now that you mention it, maybe that's why I had him mistransformed in some of the pictures (most notably any of the beast mode comparison pics with other Seacons and his G1 version ... I re-shot the pics of him in beast mode by himself after realizing I had him mistransformed). His instructions show him with his legs assembled the same way as ours, though I feel like the legs should be positioned the other way as well. However, the single point sticking forward is more like how his G1 toy was, which is how the Generations Selects version is assembled.

I'm horrible with the instructions so I always find a review and follow along. In the review, the chicken legs were facing opposite of mine with the tail sticking up. That's when I realized I needed to rotate the waist.

They're facing the right way, that's why they painted those bits silver on the feet, it certainly looks disconcerting I grant you, I think it's to help him be closer to the ground

Seibertron wrote:And then there's Monstructor, who's so on his own that you guys forgot him, unless I overlooked a post!

I think people are waiting for to do it justice as he need's 2 parts for the torso, I'd imagine that a proper liokaiser and dinoking would follow once they establish such a system

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Seibertron wrote:And then there's Monstructor, who's so on his own that you guys forgot him, unless I overlooked a post!

I think people are waiting for to do it justice as he need's 2 parts for the torso, I'd imagine that a proper liokaiser and dinoking would follow once they establish such a system

Yes, I'd really like to see them figure out how to do a Combiner with two deluxes for the torso. I'd even go back for a Devastator that was in scale with the rest of the Combiners, or moreso than his Titan Class figure.

Transformers Generations Selects Seawing (Kraken) Gallery

Seawing / Kraken's lack of a mouth drives me bonkers.


Transformers G1 1988 Seawing (Kraken) Gallery