New Transformers War for Cybertron Unicron Step By Step Planet to Robot Transformation Video
Wednesday, August 21st, 2019 12:58PM CDT
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Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 21st, 2019 @ 1:16pm CDT
Posted by ToastBucket on August 21st, 2019 @ 1:25pm CDT
Posted by BERSEKAEL on August 21st, 2019 @ 3:01pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on August 21st, 2019 @ 3:58pm CDT
BERSEKAEL wrote:why that music? if they want to sell better use G1 music, such movie, or get rights to play cybertronic spree...
It’s just background music who cares and if I had to listen to the g1 theme which is 30 seconds long 6 times for over 5 minutes I’d slit my wrists
Posted by firefox91 on August 21st, 2019 @ 4:04pm CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 21st, 2019 @ 4:16pm CDT
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 21st, 2019 @ 4:23pm CDT
Posted by BERSEKAEL on August 21st, 2019 @ 4:54pm CDT
and here is a decent G1 music better than the crap they have, is 8 times longer than 30 seconds
https://youtu.be/SpY4na_ofxs
Posted by Rainmaker on August 21st, 2019 @ 5:07pm CDT
BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing
we really don't
Posted by Burn on August 21st, 2019 @ 5:43pm CDT
Rainmaker wrote:BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing
we really don't
Seconded.
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on August 21st, 2019 @ 7:06pm CDT
Burn wrote:Rainmaker wrote:BERSEKAEL wrote:we, fans, care, that background music is dissapointing
we really don't
Seconded.
Thirded.
Also, I am impressed at the fact that there's barely any parts forming. I knew there had to be some, but I did not expect it to be so minimal.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 21st, 2019 @ 7:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Now, if they can just include that rotating turntable as well so we don't have to keep taking trips walking around this figure to transform it from all sides.
Hey, with as long as it takes to transform him, and with as many times as you have to walk around him, they are just trying to save you a gym membership
I love some of the Twitter and Facebook comments where people are all like "it's too complex" or "now I see the price more, but it needs a warranty for how complex it is"
What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow
Posted by Burn on August 21st, 2019 @ 7:11pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow
People are just looking for reasons to justify why they don't want him.
Or they're just lame and nitpick over the tiniest of things, take your pick.
Posted by william-james88 on August 21st, 2019 @ 8:15pm CDT
Burn wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What the hell did you expect? do you see how posable it is and how the 2 modes are nothing at all alike? Wow
People are just looking for reasons to justify why they don't want him.
That's been the case since day 1 and I have grown tired of it. August 31 can't happen quick enough so that we can move on from this thing and the people that don't want him (or don't want to want him) can just move onto something else.
Posted by Lexomatic on August 21st, 2019 @ 8:57pm CDT
The radii of the planet- and robot-mode curves are different, and the obvious solution is shellforming, but I'm disappointed that it's all via hinges and floppy swing-bars instead of sliding joints. Actually, I'm more disappointed that they didn't devise an eversion technique -- that is, the body parts turn inside-out, to reduce kibble and increase density. (Something like MP-48 Lio Convoy, whose lion head and mane swap between "organic" and "sculptural".)
Consider those flexible spike-studded equator strips, described above as "flypaper". Why not roll them onto the shoulders, where the Flory Dery model has spikes at the base of each wing? Or at worst, stuff them inside the torso? (Maybe the torso volume is reserved for light-and-sound gimmicks.)
Now I'm curious to see if one of the third-party makers comes up with a version at the (currently popular) Legends scale. "There's this tiny weird-lookin' planet shovin' up the suburbs of Cybertron." "Jazz, you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope."
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 21st, 2019 @ 10:08pm CDT
Posted by 1984forever on August 22nd, 2019 @ 1:18am CDT
2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
Posted by Burn on August 22nd, 2019 @ 1:26am CDT
1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.
1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
Wow, writing a product off because of the backing music in ONE of it's advertising videos.
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 22nd, 2019 @ 2:31am CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 22nd, 2019 @ 3:21am CDT
1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
I hear there's a mute button on the figure so it doesn't play the music while you're transforming it.
And watching the video I have to laugh a little at the people that originally insisted this Unicron wasn't any more complex than the Armada version.
Now I want to see a video of Unicron being transformed back into planet mode and see how much time it takes to get all the panels aligned.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 22nd, 2019 @ 4:14am CDT
Emerje wrote:1984forever wrote:2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
I hear there's a mute button on the figure so it doesn't play the music while you're transforming it.
And watching the video I have to laugh a little at the people that originally insisted this Unicron wasn't any more complex than the Armada version.
Now I want to see a video of Unicron being transformed back into planet mode and see how much time it takes to get all the panels aligned.
Emerje
There was people who actually thought that?
So I know a must buy, and I know a pass but what is a must pass?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2019 @ 8:54am CDT
Whatever it is, it sounds to me like when little boys absolutely don't want their grandma or aunt to give them a kiss in front of their friends.ZeroWolf wrote:So I know a must buy, and I know a pass but what is a must pass?
Posted by YRQRM0 on August 22nd, 2019 @ 10:31am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2019 @ 10:40am CDT
They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.YRQRM0 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.
Posted by Chriphord on August 22nd, 2019 @ 11:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.YRQRM0 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.
If we double the size, we won't have to worry about the durability of hard spikes at that point. Problem solved!
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2019 @ 11:50am CDT
Well, if you're willing to fork over $1200 for a 54-inch-tall Unicron, then good on you.unicron1200 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.YRQRM0 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.
If we double the size, we won't have to worry about the durability of hard spikes at that point. Problem solved!
Posted by Stargrave on August 22nd, 2019 @ 11:52am CDT
And that song just makes me want it more.
Xylophones and Unicron like chocolate in my peanut butter, so good.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2019 @ 11:58am CDT
Going by the movie, Cybertron ought to be bigger than Unicron. Much bigger.Stargrave wrote:I would love to see Cybertron Primus parked right in front of him I bet it looks perfect.
Posted by Stargrave on August 22nd, 2019 @ 12:02pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2019 @ 12:13pm CDT
It's that darn shot of him eating Lithone from earlier in the movie that always throws people off.Stargrave wrote:Yeah I was completely wrong.
Without knowing it's not Cybertron, the movie literally opens with a scene that makes it look like Cybertron gets eaten first thing, then we have to sit through the LONG theme song title sequence before we get Victor Caroli's narration showing us that Cybertron's A-OK and what we saw before was not what we thought it was.
Posted by Stargrave on August 22nd, 2019 @ 12:22pm CDT
Seen it more than any other movie and still did that exact thing. Ah well.
Posted by blackeyedprime on August 22nd, 2019 @ 12:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.YRQRM0 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.
Meh, if it was Bandai they'd be die cast metal spikes (& $2000) and they would go somewhere.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2019 @ 12:38pm CDT
You talkin' Bandai of America or Bandai of Japan? Cuz Hasbro had to go through American toy safety regulations.blackeyedprime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:They had to be rubber for safety and durability reasons, guys. Anything less flexible would either be too pokey or could snap off the figure like a twig. And that's about $600 down the drain at that point.YRQRM0 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Not liking the the dangly rubber spike strips, kind of like hes wearing fly paper in robot mode but I guess it would be a nice anti air defence mechanism when all the flyinbg forces try to stop and end up getting stuck to them.
A lot of his poses hide them but it would have been nice if they actually went somewhere.
Yeah, those rubber strips really hurt him imo. You can even tell they're rubber in planet mode by how they sit awkwardly. The more I see, the less I want.
Meh, if it was Bandai they'd be die cast metal spikes (& $2000) and they would go somewhere.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 22nd, 2019 @ 6:40pm CDT
1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.
2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...
And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.
Posted by Ironhidensh on August 22nd, 2019 @ 6:49pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.
2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...
And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.
His comments make me feel bad for being a detractor.
Posted by Burn on August 22nd, 2019 @ 7:21pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:1984forever wrote:1) It’s too complex.
2) The weird elevator music makes this product a must-pass.
Well, he is a planet former, he kind of needs to be complex to properly pull off both modes...
And as for 2.... that may be the worst hot take I have seen, and believe me, I have about smashed my head reading some of them.
His comments make me feel bad for being a detractor.
Congratulations, I get to lump you in with 1984forever.
I hope you feel bad now.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 23rd, 2019 @ 1:56am CDT
Posted by Radioactivepanda on August 23rd, 2019 @ 3:06am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 23rd, 2019 @ 8:26pm CDT
Radioactivepanda wrote:The transformation looks phenomenal. The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out. The vast majority of the scene was just random parts moving and general hand-waving. This is a masterwork of engineering.
Agreed with this. The transformation is what it needs to be, and it looks fantastic
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2019 @ 9:37pm CDT
There is currently no intention on extending the deadline.
There are no lights and sounds, conversion was the most important part.
While what we have seen so far is a prototype, it is the best representation of the colour the final toy will have.
The project started over a year and a half ago.
He has six joints in each of the hands with a total of 50 articulation points.
The bot alone is 19 pounds.
He has both 5mm and 3mm ports for integration with the Siege line (and anything else that fits those measures).
You can watch the video here.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 23rd, 2019 @ 9:47pm CDT
Radioactivepanda wrote:The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out.
More than you think actually: the legs sliding out was also shown and, albeit minor and just an assumption, the shoulder shifting into position too. The rest was just filler.
Posted by william-james88 on August 23rd, 2019 @ 9:52pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Radioactivepanda wrote:The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out.
More than you think actually: the legs sliding out was also shown and, albeit minor and just an assumption, the shoulder shifting into position too. The rest was just filler.
Like when they transform autobot city? Man whenever I watch that, it seems to go on for hours.
Posted by joevill on August 24th, 2019 @ 9:46am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:16am CDT
joevill wrote:8,000 is not just the target but the minimal required to start production. It doesn't seem like we will be getting this. It will be a sad sad day next Saturday when this backed project fails to meet the quota.
Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, as said in the article, this is just based on the preorders from the Pulse site alone, and doesn't include all the other websites preorders that may be added in before the final date.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 24th, 2019 @ 10:57am CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Radioactivepanda wrote:The movie never really showed the actual transformation past the arms swinging out.
More than you think actually: the legs sliding out was also shown and, albeit minor and just an assumption, the shoulder shifting into position too. The rest was just filler.
..Not really, no
0:42 Arms extend out, legs visible.
0:43 - 0:47 legs emerge
0:48 - 1:00 Forearms retract, hands emerge
1:01 - 1:11 Remaining lower torso planet kibble retracts to form crotch and reveal abs.
>Unseen< Head emerges here and rotates
1:11 - 1:14 - Upper torso kibble retracts towards the head.
^ This bit is important. Unicron is not thin, in the Movie. You could infer that with his head raised and legs extended, his body collapses down to fill that void. But not enough to streamline him.
I also say his upper kibble retracts towards his head, based on the jets that suddenly appear at his midsection on his back.
This was one of those films, for me as a little kid, that was left on to repeat endlessly. To the extent even as a 3y/o, I knew it word for word (and I did voices for everyone too). I still do
ZeroWolf wrote:joevill wrote:8,000 is not just the target but the minimal required to start production. It doesn't seem like we will be getting this. It will be a sad sad day next Saturday when this backed project fails to meet the quota.
Don't count your chickens before they're hatched, as said in the article, this is just based on the preorders from the Pulse site alone, and doesn't include all the other websites preorders that may be added in before the final date.
Assuming of course, that the other sites will do more than equal the numbers Hasbro has via Pulse, of course. Which is a big if.
Posted by Stargrave on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:04am CDT
And I did all the voices too that’s so funny it’s how I perfected my Optimus that was so fun, man. Great times.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:06am CDT
What ideas did you guys come up with?Stargrave wrote:I can remember speculating with friends I’d went with where he came from, what his origins were.
Posted by Stargrave on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:11am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:What ideas did you guys come up with?Stargrave wrote:I can remember speculating with friends I’d went with where he came from, what his origins were.
Well I was left wondering about the Quintessons just if there was any connection there I mean to me I was like is he their Lucifer is he older than time is he like Galactus is he the first Decepticon (???) speculation was rampant as my ma drive us home. I was very disappointed with the Primacron origin that didn’t work for me. I don’t think I was satisfied until I read the Furman origin the first time I was like THATS IT THATS THE ONE I LIKE. It just jibed with my kid comic book reader mentality.
Posted by Stargrave on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:17am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on August 24th, 2019 @ 11:18am CDT
Apparently an unused idea from the Movie would have been the Quintesson court was connected to Unicron. That they hunted down the survivors and put them on "trial". Which actually gives what they are doing in the final release some context. I think they should have gone with this link, personally.