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wasn't Stinger a GOBOT instead? I mean, I know transformers bought Gobots at a percent of rights, but come on...

stinger? lol wtf? i know its bay and he knows nothing about transformers but come on

mein gawd, what a fugly car. front looks like the ass end, ass end looks like the front.

Are you sure that's not just a placeholder name? I highly doubt that Bay would actually name him that.

A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

chill out dude. car just isn't my cup if tea, regardless if its a TF or a gobot. so get the chopshop out ure butt, heheheh.

I'm willing to bet you that if Stinger was a character/name from back in the day, fans across multiple boards wouldn't mess themselves in outrage as much.

Oh, wait! Stinger was supposed to be the name of one of Blaster's cassettes in the 1986 Movie!

Then fans would rage that he wasn't a cassette. Nevermind...

Seriously though, what's so mind-numbingly awful about the name 'Stinger' around these parts (especially when have names like Ratchet and Blaster in this franchise)?

SaTaN CoNvOy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

chill out dude. car just isn't my cup if tea, regardless if its a TF or a gobot. so get the chopshop out ure butt, heheheh.

Was referring to the posts above yours knocking on this guy having his own name instead of being "Recycled character name #9847".

PrymeStriker wrote:I'm willing to bet you that if Stinger was a character/name from back in the day, fans across multiple boards wouldn't mess themselves in outrage as much.

Oh, wait! Stinger was supposed to be the name of one of Blaster's cassettes in the 1986 Movie!

Then fans would rage that he wasn't a cassette. Nevermind...

Seriously though, what's so mind-numbingly awful about the name 'Stinger' around these parts (especially when have names like Ratchet and Blaster in this franchise)?

Thank you!

Honestly, no one gave two cents about the names of Scalpel, Brains, Igor, Crowbar, or Hatchet, yet somehow the name "Stinger" is the one that gets persecuted?

I just hope it's a Decepticon. Maybe a double agent Decepticon.

SlyTF1 wrote:I just hope it's a Decepticon. Maybe a double agent Decepticon.

According to those toy listings we saw before, it is a Decepticon.

Meh. It's no worse than "Dino" or "Que". I guess every TF movie needs one "WTF" character.

And before we go blaming Michael Bay... do we even know if it was his idea to have Stinger as a character? How do we know it wasn't Hasbro who said to Bay "We'd like to introduce Stinger as a new character to our toy line, so we'd like you to make him a character in the movie"?

Sabrblade wrote:

SaTaN CoNvOy wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

chill out dude. car just isn't my cup if tea, regardless if its a TF or a gobot. so get the chopshop out ure butt, heheheh.

Was referring to the posts above yours knocking on this guy having his own name instead of being "Recycled character name #9847".

PrymeStriker wrote:I'm willing to bet you that if Stinger was a character/name from back in the day, fans across multiple boards wouldn't mess themselves in outrage as much.

Oh, wait! Stinger was supposed to be the name of one of Blaster's cassettes in the 1986 Movie!

Then fans would rage that he wasn't a cassette. Nevermind...

Seriously though, what's so mind-numbingly awful about the name 'Stinger' around these parts (especially when have names like Ratchet and Blaster in this franchise)?

Thank you!

Honestly, no one gave two cents about the names of Scalpel, Brains, Igor, Crowbar, or Hatchet, yet somehow the name "Stinger" is the one that gets persecuted?

We can still go on an crusade about those names. Maybe a nice internet petition?

Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

yeah.. remember when batman battled butterman in the dark knight rises? or hey.. remember the evil architect, the super villain from the avengers movie.. or hey.. what about plasma tv guy the new hero of the x men.. or that time spiderman got his ass beat by curdled milk man.. but my favorite character HAS to be plastic bottleman, iron mans new trusty sidekick for iron man 4.

other franchises are able to keep their classic characters in major movies.. why does this franchise have to be different?

you have to be really naive to think people won't be annoyed with new characters when there are TONS of classic iconic characters to choose from.. especially when the alt mode is a car.

i am one of few who have enjoyed the movies for what they are.. they've changed designs, they've changed personalities, and they've changed colors.. i, at the very least, would like them to use some of the classic iconic names from the franchise..

black ironhide, silver sideswipe, green ratchet, muscle car bumblebee, tattooed starscream, mercedes soundwave.. i think the least they could do is give us names that we know. it's really not that difficult to do. they've shown us that they can change things to characters that we know.. but i'd still prefer them to be characters that we know, whether their colors or personalities are different or not.. i'd like a recognizable name.

TimothyR wrote:yeah.. remember when batman battled butterman in the dark knight rises? or hey.. remember the evil architect, the super villain from the avengers movie.. or hey.. what about plasma tv guy the new hero of the x men.. or that time spiderman got his ass beat by curdled milk man.. but my favorite character HAS to be plastic bottleman, iron mans new trusty sidekick for iron man 4.

Biggest hole in your argument: All of those films are adaptations of existing comic series. The Transformers movies are wholly original and new creations in their own right, with only a handful of callbacks to previous works.

TimothyR wrote:other franchises are able to keep their classic characters in major movies.. why does this franchise have to be different?

Maybe cuz the characters in these films aren't the classic characters of Transformers? They're ALL new guys with some who are based on old ones without being those old ones. Movie Ironhide isn't the old Texan warhorse veteran G1 Ironhde is, he's a cannon-toting maniac with a bit of a psychotic side. Movie Ratchet isn't a crusty, slightly angsty medic whose uncertain of his warrior skills and like to party, he's just a plain non-special medic. Though others like Jazz and Optimus are more similar to the originals, they're still a far cry from being those same characters that they're based on.

TimothyR wrote:you have to be really naive to think people won't be annoyed with new characters when there are TONS of classic iconic characters to choose from.. especially when the alt mode is a car.

i am one of few who have enjoyed the movies for what they are.. they've changed designs, they've changed personalities, and they've changed colors.. i, at the very least, would like them to use some of the classic iconic names from the franchise..

Do you honestly expect them to not recycle more classic names for this film's cast? We've already got Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, and Grimlock confirmed for the roster. What legitimate harm does a couple of new names thrown in among the recycled ones do?

And it's not like this Stinger guy's gonna be taking away any major role from anybody since he's a Decepticon, and these films ALWAYS reduce the non-big name Cons to personality-less savages anyway.

TimothyR wrote:black ironhide, silver sideswipe, green ratchet, muscle car bumblebee, tattooed starscream, mercedes soundwave.. i think the least they could do is give us names that we know. it's really not that difficult to do. they've shown us that they can change things to characters that we know.. but i'd still prefer them to be characters that we know, whether their colors or personalities are different or not.. i'd like a recognizable name.

If the classic personality is gone and replace by a new completely different one, can they really be called the same character anymore?

Stinger was Sideswipe's production name in RotF, so this is kind of like Star Wars VII being revealed as Blue Harvest...

That's one ugly car. I'm sure it goes well enough and goes fast but it certainly isn't easy on the eyes.
Stinger is a good name. I wonder if he'll have a speaking part or just be cannon fodder.

New character, sweet car, nothing wrong here. Least they didn't do something stupid like make him Blurr, coz then the colours would be all wrong.

I actually reported this last night when the show came on... Huh. Guess they reported it before I did?

*shrugamigation*

But yeah. Stinger is actually a pretty cool name for this vehicle, and speaking of, this car is actually a pretty sweet car. I gotta actually side with Bay on this one; if there is fan-rage about this, people need to get over it. The character was never implemented in the movie and therefore does not have a canonical place in the universe.

What was the purpose of the little black box in the article censoring what I assume is the name "Stinger" ? I only know that because all the first posters mention it on their posts. Isnt this suppossed to be a news site ? I can understand not posting Botcon leaks, but Michael Bay leaks ??? Thats going to far....

BREAKING NEWS: The name of the red and black sports car is STINGER !!!

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While I would have preferred to see a proper homage to a character that resembles the original version of a character, I don't have an issue with setting the precedent of a new character either. Blackout and Barricade are two of my favorite Transformers to come out of the past decade alongside Bulkhead, Lockdown, Dreadwing, and Knock Out ... all brand new characters that I have really enjoyed having as part of the Transformers cast. As long as I get a toy out of "Stinger" unlike we did with Mirage/Dino from TF3, I'll be a happy Transformers fansite owner.

i dont see what all the hate is about, hes not ruining another fan favorite character so im fine with this. Plus ive been saying from day one that they need to start making their own characters instead of slapping random names on cars. What would you rather have this guy called stinger or ramhorn, a new character or a name that doesn't fit. First thing bay & hasbro have done right with this franchise.

Yeah, not understanding all the hate...

It's a new character, a new name, and a new vehicle. What is there to flame on?

Sabrblade wrote:GROW UP, people!

He ironically said to a bunch of adults posting on a message board dedicated to children's toys...

Mindmaster wrote:Yeah, not understanding all the hate...

It's a new character, a new name, and a new vehicle. What is there to flame on?

I'm not sure you have enough time to go through "their" entire manifesto

I'm fine with the name Stinger. It's simple and cool.
Thankfully its no Igor, Que, or Dino.
But still, we could get something along that line again.

Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

I don't like the name. It sounds silly. So I should GROW UP because of that?

MINDVVIPE wrote:New character, sweet car, nothing wrong here. Least they didn't do something stupid like make him Blurr, coz then the colours would be all wrong.

Colors? Ratchet, Jazz, Ironhide, Sideswipe, Arcee, Chromia, Elita-1, Skids, Mudflap, Jetfire, Wheelie, Que/Wheeljack, Dino/Mirage, Sentinal Prime, Starscream, Frenzy, Scorpinok, Soundwave, Scavenger, Scrapper, Bonecrusher, Rampage, and Mixmaster would love to have a word with you.

Ok, so Igor, Scalpel, Dreads, and Brains are Bay made, and Dino/Mirage or Que/Wheeljack are kind of Bay made. Now this? Seriously? Atleast we knew that Dino was supposed to be Mirage, and Que supposed to be Wheeljack. They didn't let two good cars go to waste. Now this? That could have been a Stunticon, Hotrod, or even Dino if they wanted.....and they do THIS? I pray, that this is a placeholder name. I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters. is the of my life......

Ok, so Igor, Scalpel, Dreads, and Brains are Bay made, and Dino/Mirage or Que/Wheeljack are kind of Bay made. Now this? Seriously? Atleast we knew that Dino was supposed to be Mirage, and Que supposed to be Wheeljack. They didn't let two good cars go to waste. Now this? That could have been a Stunticon, Hotrod, or even Dino if they wanted.....and they do THIS? I pray, that this is a placeholder name. I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters. is the of my life......

Kibble wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:GROW UP, people!

He ironically said to a bunch of adults posting on a message board dedicated to children's toys...

It's sad when the children act more like adults about their toys than the adults do.

Burn wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:A brand new character with a brand new name in a brand new form and a brand new identity? BLASPHEMY! TF4 should be crucified for ever daring to even consider doing something unique and original instead of recycling old existing names like we always get.

GROW UP, people!

I don't like the name. It sounds silly. So I should GROW UP because of that?

Sorry, wasn't referring to your post, but the ones that were mad about his not being another recycled-name character. I'd imagine you'd still be cool with him being a new-named character if his name was different from "Stinger" but still new, right?

Thats what happen when you mix Gobots+Transformers, "Stinger" is a recycled name from Gobots... Transformers/Hasbro bought Gobots (character names/bios/storyline) time ago, however the actual toys and their likenesses were only licensed from Bandai, so no one can produce those toys anymore, at least the 80's shape look and feel
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And for those who don't know who is Stinger, here is the Gobots version

Or it could not be any go-bot rehash, but just simply a new character... I'm sure if TFs were real, you wouldn't know every single one of them, like as if you would know every single person on earth by name. You people get mad at the movie for dumb reasons. Wait for it to release, then there will be lots of more legitimate reasons to hate on it. For now, there is literally nothing to hate. Stinger can't really be that bad a name, at least it sounds better than all that other crap that was mentioned earlier, dino, que, igor etc. But hey, i guess if you don't like a name, you just don't... like the name Keith?

primematrix1986 wrote:I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters

So, what you're saying is...

Writers are not allowed to create their own characters, and must steal characters from everyone else's fiction in order to deliver the best story.

PrymeStriker wrote:

primematrix1986 wrote:I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters

So, what you're saying is...

Writers are not allowed to create their own characters, and must steal characters from everyone else's fiction in order to deliver the best story.

You forgot to point out the big obvious fact that Bay isn't the writer and probably had nothing to do with the name to begin with.

Seems fair enough. When I first saw it I thought maybe Dead End or Wildrider since there is talk of Stunticons in this movie. I would love that and have them combine. They can make up new chars all they want, Barricade is now one of my favorite Transformers.

PrymeStriker wrote:

primematrix1986 wrote:I am about to turn into a Bayverse hater, if he doesn't stop trying to create his own cute little characters

So, what you're saying is...

Writers are not allowed to create their own characters, and must steal characters from everyone else's fiction in order to deliver the best story.

Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.

Given that it's a Bay Transformer movie (with a history of dog-on-dog, mini-bot on leg and testicular and other anatomical cracks made in failed attempts at humor), and seeing as how this is most certainly a car changing into a bot and not likely to be a giant bee or scorpion... and it's name is STINGER... just what the hell kind of gimmick does this character have and do my kids need to be seeing this?

primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.

Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.

Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.

Yeah, and that was even at the expense of old characters, which doesn't seem to be the case here since we're still getting the likes of Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, Grimlock, and more.

We get new characters all the time, primematrix1986. Ever since 1985, new characters just keep pouring in. Can you honestly think of any Transformers show, comic, or movie that didn't create their own new characters and only used old characters?

Sabrblade wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.

Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.

Yeah, and that was even at the expense of old characters, which doesn't seem to be the case here since we're still getting the likes of Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, Grimlock, and more.

We get new characters all the time, primematrix1986. Ever since 1985, new characters just keep pouring in. Can you honestly think of any Transformers show, comic, or movie that didn't create their own new characters and only used old characters?

Exactly. Every Transformers show, comic, and movie included entirely new and original characters. Which makes this statement all the more ironic:

primematrix1986 wrote:I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS?

Making new characters is part of "Transformers." Padlock, Hot Shot, Airachnid, and Yoketron are prime examples, and Stinger is just another one of them.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, they are. I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS? If your going to make your own characters, then make a different movie about it, so you don't take away from OUR vast universe of characters we love and know.

Don't be daft. The 1986 animated movie was almost all new characters, and it kicked ASS.

Yeah, and that was even at the expense of old characters, which doesn't seem to be the case here since we're still getting the likes of Optimus, Bumblebee, Hound, Grimlock, and more.

We get new characters all the time, primematrix1986. Ever since 1985, new characters just keep pouring in. Can you honestly think of any Transformers show, comic, or movie that didn't create their own new characters and only used old characters?

Exactly. Every Transformers show, comic, and movie included entirely new and original characters. Which makes this statement all the more ironic:

primematrix1986 wrote:I have been open to new change in the Bayverse, but I mean come on......seriously? Your going to make your own characters when the respective name of the movie is TRANSFORMERS?

Making new characters is part of "Transformers." Padlock, Hot Shot, Airachnid, and Yoketron are prime examples, and Stinger is just another one of them.

Yes, you are right. Trust me, I don't HATE the Bay movies, but I think they could be way better. In a comic or cartoon, they have time to develop that new character out. Plus, movies are visually better, even if the story like *cough ROTF cough* was bad, the eye candy was great. What my point is, that I want to see more original characters on the big screen so we can enjoy it more, rather than creating a NEW Transformer that could have been used as someone we actually know and relate to. That's like making The Avengers 2, but coming up with totally new characters, rather than giving us what we want - someone we know like Scarlet Witch, Ant-man etc. See my point?

primematrix1986 wrote:Yes, you are right. Trust me, I don't HATE the Bay movies, but I think they could be way better. In a comic or cartoon, they have time to develop that new character out. Plus, movies are visually better, even if the story like *cough ROTF cough* was bad, the eye candy was great. What my point is, that I want to see more original characters on the big screen so we can enjoy it more, rather than creating a NEW Transformer that could have been used as someone we actually know and relate to. That's like making The Avengers 2, but coming up with totally new characters, rather than giving us what we want - someone we know like Scarlet Witch, Ant-man etc. See my point?

Well chances are Stinger isn't going to get any real character development if the previous movies are any indication, so it doesn't matter. It's better with a new character coz if it sucks, at least it's not an old familiar thats being dumped on. RE: Avengers - Transformers aren't a team of 7 or 8 people, they're pretty much an entire race on a planet thats bigger than earth. Relish the introduction of a new character in the limelight, coz maybe it'll get more depth with comics, and even games (and hopefully a rad figure).

primematrix1986 wrote:What my point is, that I want to see more original characters on the big screen so we can enjoy it more, rather than creating a NEW Transformer that could have been used as someone we actually know and relate to. That's like making The Avengers 2, but coming up with totally new characters, rather than giving us what we want - someone we know like Scarlet Witch, Ant-man etc. See my point?

Thing is, these movies give so little exposure to the robot characters as people instead of just as eye candy that there's little-to-no reason for us to care about any of them, regardless of whether they recycle existing names or have newly-created names. The robots are so disconnected from the audience on a personal and familiar level that there's hardly anything relatable about them. If one has only seen the films and hasn't read the Movieverse comics or novels yet (like myself), then there's not much for that person to get out of these Cybertronians aside from flashy special effects cool-sounding voices, and altmodes of varying tastes.

From watching the films by themselves, we know next to nothing about Ironhide, Jazz, Ratchet, Barricade, Blackout, Bonecrusher, Brawl, Frenzy, Scorponok, Starscream, Sideswipe, Arcee, Jolt, Soundwave, Ravage, Grindor, the Constructicons, Sideways, Dino/Mirage, Que/Wheeljack, Roadbuster, Leadfoot, Topspin, Laserbeak, the Dreads, Shockwave, and more, beyond what's on the surface. The characters that the movies focused on the most and wanted us, the audience, to relate to the most were the humans, as which will likely not change for this movie as well. So even if Stinger did reuse an existing name, he'd probably just serve the same role as he will as Stinger, making the difference between his name being old and new so minor as to be virtually nonexistent.