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New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron

Transformers News: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron

Thursday, February 18th, 2021 5:39PM CST

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Greetings Seibertronians! We have a monster sized review to share with you today! Fellow Seibertron user, -Kanrabat-, has let us know that fellow Seibertron user, and YouTube toy reviewer, PrimeVsPrime has uploaded his review for HasLab's Unicron!

HasLab's Unicron is a behemoth of a Transformer, taking the title away from Titans Returns Titan Class Fortress Maximus! The toy is also the most expensive officially licensed Transformers ever created, costing near $600. Fans who backed the Chaos Bringer will all recieve their copies soon enough.

We have embedded the review below for your convenience:


What do you think of this review? Are you expecting his arrival?

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Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095918)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 18th, 2021 @ 7:40pm CST
I get why everyone is upset about the blue maw, and I don't know how much it will bother me in-hand, but it doesn't look bad to me when the teeth are extended. In that scenario, the contrast helps the teeth pop, and the inner mouth looks better darker even if it's depicted closed.

Not judging anyone else's disappointment, but the overall attention to detail and the fact that this was never shown as the intended design suggests to me that they wouldn't have done this unless there was a reason. Maybe that reason will never be definitely known or justified, but I don't think it's going to lower my excitement when he finally shows up.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095920)
Posted by Flashwave on February 18th, 2021 @ 8:00pm CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:I get why everyone is upset about the blue maw, and I don't know how much it will bother me in-hand, but it doesn't look bad to me when the teeth are extended. In that scenario, the contrast helps the teeth pop, and the inner mouth looks better darker even if it's depicted closed.

Not judging anyone else's disappointment, but the overall attention to detail and the fact that this was never shown as the intended design suggests to me that they wouldn't have done this unless there was a reason. Maybe that reason will never be definitely known or justified, but I don't think it's going to lower my excitement when he finally shows up.

Agreed on all points. I suspect after watching the assembly video that reason is something like "we couldn't get the paint mask to work and then have the paint survive the assembly process"
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095922)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 18th, 2021 @ 9:29pm CST
I think the reason is "crap, we're running out of time" thanks to COVID messing with everything.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095923)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 18th, 2021 @ 9:33pm CST
They could have simply delayed the release. It may have been cost or assembly or materials, or maybe it was an error. But I don't know that there's any value in speculating, and it went out the door like this, so it is what it is.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095924)
Posted by alekese on February 18th, 2021 @ 9:55pm CST
My money is on repeated use of the maw gimmick and repeated opening/closing the mouth causing paint chipping during testing, after molding decisions were already locked in, so hasbro had to choose between "I paid $600 for paint inaccuracies?!" fanboy bitching, and "I paid $600 dollars for this thing, and you couldn't even check to see if the gimmick would chip the paint first?!" fanboy bitching.

*edit:
That being said, I have no issue whatsoever with the maw not being accurate to a movie I have never and quite possibly will never see, and although the blue teeth look a little weird, it's not weird enough for me to be anything more than ambivalent about it. It is still completely eclipsed by my overwhelmingly giddy enthusiasm for my imminent giant honkin' chunk of plastic planet eater.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095926)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 18th, 2021 @ 10:48pm CST
You've never seen the movie that introduces the character behind the $600 toy you just bought? I mean, my love for it is colored by nostalgia, but even with the caveats from being an '80s feature-length toy commercial, it still has some entertainment value.

I've begun to appreciate it more as an adult due to understanding the musical score better and seeing Floro Dery's designs. I'd hoped that the instruction manual for the figure would take a page from Lego's high-end products and feature behind-the-scenes details like concept art, but unfortunately that's not the approach they took. Maybe they don't have Dery's designs in reproducible quality, but they'd make for a great art book.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095928)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 18th, 2021 @ 11:23pm CST
To clarify about the maw's change in color, the innermost part of the maw being changed isn't the problem. It's that the outermost part connected to the teeth is now blue when that part is supposed to be yellow/orange/gold. Hasbro apparently gangmolded those two parts so changing one changed the other as well.

In other words, the "throat" is what needed the darker color contrast, but not the "lips".

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Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095933)
Posted by o.supreme on February 19th, 2021 @ 12:28am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:You've never seen the movie that introduces the character behind the $600 toy you just bought? I mean, my love for it is colored by nostalgia, but even with the caveats from being an '80s feature-length toy commercial, it still has some entertainment value.


Everyone has the right to their own opinions of course, but yeah it does seem odd to throw down $600 on a toy from a film you've never seen, and not even trying to when it is arguably the best animated Transformers piece of media period.

To.me that would be like saying you are a Star Wars fan and getting Haslabs sail barge, but you've never seen Return of the Jedi, and don't intend to....Of course it is ultimately your decision... just different is all...
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095936)
Posted by blackeyedprime on February 19th, 2021 @ 4:11am CST
Pretty sure the mouth change is down to hasbro selling a $300 toy for $600 and not wanting to sell a $303 toy for $600 :p

End of the day it's going to be the best official Unicron for anywhere between another 15 to 65 years with him only semi likely to be revisited on the 50th anniversary upwards and no guarantees of the next Unicron being as good.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095938)
Posted by Dead Metal on February 19th, 2021 @ 4:48am CST
I'm pretty angry by the unfinished nature of the maw, robot mouth and the hands, plus the wing stems on the shoulders having random unsymmetrical blue pieces trigger my preference for balance.

I've reduced my Tf collecting to almost nothing, just MPs and the occasional mainline thing that I find too intriguing to pass up. I got this despite the weaknesses it had during the campaign (obvious shellformer, the weird extra spike parts on the ring, the at the time unarticulated hands, the face, and the slight robot design changes from the movie and the colour being too bright.
The bot mode and especially the planet mode appealed to me to the point that I decided to break my rule for how much I'm willing to spend. The huge backpack for instance just reminded me of the awesome Beast Wars Neo prototype.

But damn, the unpainted teeth and the blue maw, just, well they just annoy me, it makes it look so damn unfinished. I wrote an email and basically just got a reply that tried to sell me on future projects like this. One thing is sure, I will never, ever do this again.

They hyped up the detail and the accurate maw to such a degree, that you expected it to look good in the end. But to them to just silently cheap out on such details on a 600 dollar toy is baffling.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095940)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 19th, 2021 @ 5:08am CST
Almost 1000$CAN total for this. Glad that I cancelled my order. It's still awesome, but not 1000$ awesome.

I'd love some smart-ass KO company to make an exact copy but downsized to the same size as Armada Unicron. Seeing both side by side would be pretty cool. Plus it would be way less expensive and much more manageable.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095946)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 19th, 2021 @ 6:44am CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:They could have simply delayed the release. It may have been cost or assembly or materials, or maybe it was an error. But I don't know that there's any value in speculating, and it went out the door like this, so it is what it is.

They should have delayed it.

I doubt it's a materials error since they know what this is supposed to look like and could, presumably, plan for it. Plus the blue is the base plastic, so it's paintable. Could be cost, but in my mind that's tied with time. With more time to pull it all together they may have been able to fix it.

But, yeah, it is what it is. I guess the best hope is that Reprolabels can do something about it.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095951)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 19th, 2021 @ 7:27am CST
For what its worth, I like it as it is now. Though I can emphasise with those who value cartoon accuracy. I don't, just give me a fantastic looking, and fun, toy.

(Also new and original designs wouldn't go amiss, but I take what I can get)
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095979)
Posted by alekese on February 19th, 2021 @ 1:24pm CST
o.supreme wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:You've never seen the movie that introduces the character behind the $600 toy you just bought? I mean, my love for it is colored by nostalgia, but even with the caveats from being an '80s feature-length toy commercial, it still has some entertainment value.


Everyone has the right to their own opinions of course, but yeah it does seem odd to throw down $600 on a toy from a film you've never seen, and not even trying to when it is arguably the best animated Transformers piece of media period.

To.me that would be like saying you are a Star Wars fan and getting Haslabs sail barge, but you've never seen Return of the Jedi, and don't intend to....Of course it is ultimately your decision... just different is all...
This is gonna be kinda rambly as I try to get multiple disparate thoughts out, but...

My not having seen the 86 movie but still getting unicron is a combination of several factors, but the largest is that for my entire life I have been in this brand for the toys first, and any ancillary media a distant second. My earliest cohesive transformers memory is burning envy directed at the kid who brought in their energon shockblast to kindergarten show and tell, but the handful of scattered minicons and spy changers i've rediscovered over the years attest that I was involved in the brand before that, albeit barely. I had transformers come in at a slow, steady trickle over the course of a decade, where they had to compete with bionicles, legos, and dinosaurs for precious few birthday and christmas present slots, but they were adored even when I wasn't old enough to be gentle, and even more so now once I was. Money got tight with the 2008 recession, and dotm starscream was my last transformer for several years. Around when titans return came out, I got my first job at toys 'r us, and after a few impulse buys it was like a floodgate opened. I had my own money. I could by my own transformers. Moving on to a better paying job when toys went under sealed the deal. The appeal had always been with the transformation for me, having a puzzle box that happened to also be a fully functioning action figure at the same time.

In regards to not having seen 86, a lot of that comes down to age and accessibility. 86 had celebrated its 10 year anniversary before I was even conceived. When the 2007 film came out, TF:TM was still over twice my age. I have vague memories of seeing unicron trilogy content, but I was young enough to not internalize what little I saw. It wasn't until 2007, with the advent of the live action movies and animated that I had reliable access to current transformers media. I watched and enjoyed the live action movies, animated and prime when my schedule would allow, but I was watching it because of the toys I owned, not buying toys to match the show. By the time I was old enough to have access to the knowledge that there were transformers and transformers media from before the unicron trilogy, it had aged to the point to where it was no longer something you could see casually, but something you needed to take the time to track down, and I had neither the resources nor inclination to do so. Even though I could probably track it down on one streaming service or another, my opinion of the movie and of G1 as a whole have been tarnished by the efforts of its most enthusiastic "advocates".

Despite being a lifelong transformers fan, there are times where interacting with the fandom feels like being an outsider. Even though the most egregious of "Geewun" sentiments are rare, there's still this atmosphere of elitism, or perhaps entitlement amongst enfranchised fans. There's this pervasive feeling born from a thousand different petty gripes, each one on its own dismissible, but coming together to paint a broad pattern, that the further something deviates from G1, the worse it is, and that by extension anything that isn't G1 is inherently lesser. 'Cyclonus is the wrong shade of purple,''What is with Kup's headsculpt,''He looks like a flying dorito,''Baynus,''TRUKK NOT MUNKY.' It's hard not to feel ostracized when the things you enjoy are criticized for not conforming to a pedestal that was already showing its age when one was in kindergarten. There's also this sentiment that occasionally shows up where anything that has an acceptable older alternative in their collection is denigrated as unnecessary, even, or perhaps especially if it isn't readily available to newer fans. When the selects shattered glass two pack was teased with "some of you might not of heard of this", the response upon reveal was 'who the heck hasn't heard of SG?' 'we already got these,' 'I was expecting an obscure G1 character,' when the only way to acquire SG figs firsthand was to already be an adult in the mid 2000's with enough money to attend conventions, and the only way to otherwise know they exist is to stumble across them on TFwiki like I did. It all combines into an atmosphere of negativity, where the overwhelming sentiment feels like 'I don't want this, therefore it's bad,' 'it's not good enough for me,' 'My opinions are the only ones that matter.'

This brings us back to G1, and TF:TM. I have not seen either of them. I have seen about ~5 minutes worth of disconnected 5-10 second clips used in promotional material, though I have had the entirety of the movie's plot spoiled through fandom osmosis. I have no emotional context, no nostalgia when I see footage of it. The only emotional connection I have to G1 is through the alienating entitlement of its fanbase. I am emotionally mature enough to recognize that I would be going into it with a massive chip on my shoulder. Were I to take the time to watch it, I would be going into it not with the perspective of 'what happens next,' eager to enjoy what others have before me, I would be going into it from the pessimistic viewpoint of 'what is so special about this to justify people being such entitled asshats about it?' leaving me primed to see it only for its flaws. Given that it is an 80's cartoonimercial series whose animation and writing both show their age, that is in no way fair to it, and I recognize that.

This finally brings us back to Unicron, and why I am as has been said, "throwing down $600 on a toy from a film I've never seen". The sail barge example is flawed, because Star Wars was always a movie before it was a toyline, and the toys only exist because the movie did. Transformers has, from the very beginning, been a toyline first, especially for me. It's not about the movie, because it was never about the movie, not really. The movie was about the toys, and the toys were what I was about. This $600 monstrosity is one of the capstones of the brand, being the largest first party toy ever, an achievement that is likely never to be taken from it. It will be the single largest toy I have ever owned, regardless of brand, and is everything I have ever loved about the brand scaled up larger than it ever has been. Combined with the once in a lifetime nature of its release, I refused to miss out on the chance.

In short, I got it because I wanted it, and I didn't need a commercial to convince me first.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095982)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on February 19th, 2021 @ 1:45pm CST
I hope my comment the other day didn't read as gatekeeping, any entry into the fandom is legitimate, as is any motivation for how you want to participate. I don't feel entitled to a justification for your choices.

I get the point about some things being valued by the community more than others. Participating in those dominant activities -- prioritizing the cartoon, or showing off comics continuity knowledge -- can seem like selling out, in a way, reinforcing the in-group trends, so I understand the instinct to be oppositional to that.

On the other hand, you might be closing yourself off from opportunities to enjoy other aspects of the media. That should still come from curiosity, though, not a sense of obligation or anything. I didn't watch the movie Titanic for years as a kind of protest against its ubiquity. At a certain point I felt like I was depriving myself for no good reason. I watched it, I hated it, but I was coming to it in a way I could judge it on its own merits. But that's a YMMV thing.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095983)
Posted by o.supreme on February 19th, 2021 @ 1:45pm CST
alekese wrote:The sail barge example is flawed, because Star Wars was always a movie before it was a toyline, and the toys only exist because the movie did.


Actually in this case it is accurate, because Haslab Unicron only exists because Transformers: The Movie exists. Unicron as depicted in other media (Armada, Prime etc...) have their own toys. Haslab Unicron IS TF:TM Unicron. If it was specifically designed after IDW or some other version of Unicron, then this conversation would be moot. But you like the toy, I get it, and that's fine. I love the Movie, not because it is a commercial, but because it is a great story...and coincidentally I have very few toys tied to that film, and none of them because of it, including Unicron.

Also as far as accessibility. If you don't want to purchase a DVD or BRD (I'm guessing because of your age you aren't into physical media), you can purchase digital copies of the film online for less than $10. But like you said, it's about the toys for you, and that is fine. You avoid this movie because you don't care to see it, not because you cant access it. To be clear, I'm not berating your decision, I'm just streamlining it for you.

Yes I am 45, and my memory of seeing TF:TM in the theaters is one of my greatest childhood memories, despite never having any of the toys specific to this film. My son who is almost 15 has seen all TF Media from the beginning thanks to me, and he enjoys all of it to varying degrees. I will never be "that fan" who dictates terms. You have your niche of what you enjoy, and that's fine. I choose to look at things differently. Whether it's comic books, anime or toys, I personally feel a great sense of satisfaction going back to the beginning of each and working my way forward chronologically to understand and take in it all, even if it was well before I was born. But again, that's just me.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095987)
Posted by First-Aid on February 19th, 2021 @ 3:01pm CST
alekese wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:You've never seen the movie that introduces the character behind the $600 toy you just bought? I mean, my love for it is colored by nostalgia, but even with the caveats from being an '80s feature-length toy commercial, it still has some entertainment value.


Everyone has the right to their own opinions of course, but yeah it does seem odd to throw down $600 on a toy from a film you've never seen, and not even trying to when it is arguably the best animated Transformers piece of media period.

To.me that would be like saying you are a Star Wars fan and getting Haslabs sail barge, but you've never seen Return of the Jedi, and don't intend to....Of course it is ultimately your decision... just different is all...
This is gonna be kinda rambly as I try to get multiple disparate thoughts out, but...

My not having seen the 86 movie but still getting unicron is a combination of several factors, but the largest is that for my entire life I have been in this brand for the toys first, and any ancillary media a distant second. My earliest cohesive transformers memory is burning envy directed at the kid who brought in their energon shockblast to kindergarten show and tell, but the handful of scattered minicons and spy changers i've rediscovered over the years attest that I was involved in the brand before that, albeit barely. I had transformers come in at a slow, steady trickle over the course of a decade, where they had to compete with bionicles, legos, and dinosaurs for precious few birthday and christmas present slots, but they were adored even when I wasn't old enough to be gentle, and even more so now once I was. Money got tight with the 2008 recession, and dotm starscream was my last transformer for several years. Around when titans return came out, I got my first job at toys 'r us, and after a few impulse buys it was like a floodgate opened. I had my own money. I could by my own transformers. Moving on to a better paying job when toys went under sealed the deal. The appeal had always been with the transformation for me, having a puzzle box that happened to also be a fully functioning action figure at the same time.

In regards to not having seen 86, a lot of that comes down to age and accessibility. 86 had celebrated its 10 year anniversary before I was even conceived. When the 2007 film came out, TF:TM was still over twice my age. I have vague memories of seeing unicron trilogy content, but I was young enough to not internalize what little I saw. It wasn't until 2007, with the advent of the live action movies and animated that I had reliable access to current transformers media. I watched and enjoyed the live action movies, animated and prime when my schedule would allow, but I was watching it because of the toys I owned, not buying toys to match the show. By the time I was old enough to have access to the knowledge that there were transformers and transformers media from before the unicron trilogy, it had aged to the point to where it was no longer something you could see casually, but something you needed to take the time to track down, and I had neither the resources nor inclination to do so. Even though I could probably track it down on one streaming service or another, my opinion of the movie and of G1 as a whole have been tarnished by the efforts of its most enthusiastic "advocates".

Despite being a lifelong transformers fan, there are times where interacting with the fandom feels like being an outsider. Even though the most egregious of "Geewun" sentiments are rare, there's still this atmosphere of elitism, or perhaps entitlement amongst enfranchised fans. There's this pervasive feeling born from a thousand different petty gripes, each one on its own dismissible, but coming together to paint a broad pattern, that the further something deviates from G1, the worse it is, and that by extension anything that isn't G1 is inherently lesser. 'Cyclonus is the wrong shade of purple,''What is with Kup's headsculpt,''He looks like a flying dorito,''Baynus,''TRUKK NOT MUNKY.' It's hard not to feel ostracized when the things you enjoy are criticized for not conforming to a pedestal that was already showing its age when one was in kindergarten. There's also this sentiment that occasionally shows up where anything that has an acceptable older alternative in their collection is denigrated as unnecessary, even, or perhaps especially if it isn't readily available to newer fans. When the selects shattered glass two pack was teased with "some of you might not of heard of this", the response upon reveal was 'who the heck hasn't heard of SG?' 'we already got these,' 'I was expecting an obscure G1 character,' when the only way to acquire SG figs firsthand was to already be an adult in the mid 2000's with enough money to attend conventions, and the only way to otherwise know they exist is to stumble across them on TFwiki like I did. It all combines into an atmosphere of negativity, where the overwhelming sentiment feels like 'I don't want this, therefore it's bad,' 'it's not good enough for me,' 'My opinions are the only ones that matter.'

This brings us back to G1, and TF:TM. I have not seen either of them. I have seen about ~5 minutes worth of disconnected 5-10 second clips used in promotional material, though I have had the entirety of the movie's plot spoiled through fandom osmosis. I have no emotional context, no nostalgia when I see footage of it. The only emotional connection I have to G1 is through the alienating entitlement of its fanbase. I am emotionally mature enough to recognize that I would be going into it with a massive chip on my shoulder. Were I to take the time to watch it, I would be going into it not with the perspective of 'what happens next,' eager to enjoy what others have before me, I would be going into it from the pessimistic viewpoint of 'what is so special about this to justify people being such entitled asshats about it?' leaving me primed to see it only for its flaws. Given that it is an 80's cartoonimercial series whose animation and writing both show their age, that is in no way fair to it, and I recognize that.

This finally brings us back to Unicron, and why I am as has been said, "throwing down $600 on a toy from a film I've never seen". The sail barge example is flawed, because Star Wars was always a movie before it was a toyline, and the toys only exist because the movie did. Transformers has, from the very beginning, been a toyline first, especially for me. It's not about the movie, because it was never about the movie, not really. The movie was about the toys, and the toys were what I was about. This $600 monstrosity is one of the capstones of the brand, being the largest first party toy ever, an achievement that is likely never to be taken from it. It will be the single largest toy I have ever owned, regardless of brand, and is everything I have ever loved about the brand scaled up larger than it ever has been. Combined with the once in a lifetime nature of its release, I refused to miss out on the chance.

In short, I got it because I wanted it, and I didn't need a commercial to convince me first.


This post is awesome. I especially enjoyed the "entitled asshats" section. I salute you, sir.

Transformers is about change, always has been. It's not meant to be static. Variety is the spice of life, but lately there hasn't been much variety in the line. What we are getting is rehashed, remade, and beaten-to-death fancandy. I really want to see something new, something unique...that CHANGE that the line is about. Instead, we are getting syndicated reruns for toys.

The Bayverse brought about an entirely new aesthetic to the line. They didn't nevessarily have to be blocky and "robot-y". They didn't necessarily have to have FEET. Hell, they didn't always even have necks, arms, torsos, whatever...but they were DIFFERENT. It was a change. Yes it made it hard to make toys but they still did it, and the studio series line improved the original attempts. Now, 13 years after live action, 25 years after Beast Wars, and 35 years after G1, it's time for something new...something completely original, not rehashed, rerun, or repainted. But think about it: what will happen if that DOES occur? Trukk not munkey all over again. It's not REAL Transformers. And, eventually, 1988-1994 will happen again. Let the change happen. Let's get something new up here. New modes, new characters, new stories. We have the technology.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095988)
Posted by o.supreme on February 19th, 2021 @ 3:07pm CST
First-Aid wrote:Let the change happen. Let's get something new up here. New modes, new characters, new stories. We have the technology.


You do realize that asshats come in all ages. It's not only the people who don't like change, it's also the fans that say "It's not for you anymore".

Also I take it with all vitriol toward the perceived redundancy of the line, you absolutely hate the Haslab Unicron, since it is based on a design 35 years old now. That's fine, just making sure you are consistent.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095991)
Posted by First-Aid on February 19th, 2021 @ 4:07pm CST
o.supreme wrote:
First-Aid wrote:Let the change happen. Let's get something new up here. New modes, new characters, new stories. We have the technology.


You do realize that asshats come in all ages. It's not only the people who don't like change, it's also the fans that say "It's not for you anymore".

Also I take it with all vitriol toward the perceived redundancy of the line, you absolutely hate the Haslab Unicron, since it is based on a design 35 years old now. That's fine, just making sure you are consistent.


Nope. I bought it. Mainly because it's really big. But I also see it as an absolutely perfect stopping point, and a perfect point for redoing everything. Kingdom is the end of the WFC trilogy. Cyberverse is ending. The LAMs are on "hiatus". Let's see what the brain trust can come up with. Unicron is a perfect period at the end of the sentence.

And he's even round and shaped like a period.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095992)
Posted by Rtron on February 19th, 2021 @ 4:10pm CST
o.supreme wrote:
First-Aid wrote:Let the change happen. Let's get something new up here. New modes, new characters, new stories. We have the technology.


You do realize that asshats come in all ages. It's not only the people who don't like change, it's also the fans that say "It's not for you anymore".

Also I take it with all vitriol toward the perceived redundancy of the line, you absolutely hate the Haslab Unicron, since it is based on a design 35 years old now. That's fine, just making sure you are consistent.


I haven't seen much vitriol directed at the line by itself, but rather, at how we seem to always go back to the same well. Most people don't dislike G1. I think most of us who came after it was long dead actually really like the designs. Hell, Siege/Earthrise seem to have been a big success with "younger" adult fans. What post-G1 people dislike is how all-encompassing it's become. That everything has to fit G1. I LOVE the G1 robots, they're cool as hell! But I strongly dislike that it's the bar that every new Transformers is measured against, and how much it seems to force the brand to remain stagnant. The pushback every new idea gets is what's bothersome. Hell, even the movieverse is going G1 now. If there were any alternatives, it wouldn't be a problem. But there aren't, specially in fiction. Toy-wise, the situation is slowly getting quite better.

At least in 2018 the movieverse got into the Generations mix, and Beast Wars now too. That's a step in the right direction. But those are also reruns, we still need something completely new, something not yet fit for generations. The fossilizers are somewhat of a step in the right direction, but even those are just 5 molds, happening in the context of a revival of a 25 year old toyline. And I say that as a die-hard Beast Wars fan.

This is not just us 90's and 00's kids trying to be hip turbo revving young punks, it's a reality of all hobbies and business. If Transformers doesn't come up with something new soon, it will go the way of superhero comics: senile, boring and on life support. Nostalgia can only go so far.

Also, what's all this about berating the guy for not watching an old cartoon commercial? The dude just likes Unicron and has the money, let the guy be. It's not like he's missing out on a masterpiece of film, and even if he was, it would be his loss.

And after all this, Unicron Trilogy fans still haven't gotten anything but a few homages here and there. Going by how it was with Beast Wars, maybe they'll get something by 2031.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095994)
Posted by First-Aid on February 19th, 2021 @ 4:42pm CST
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You said it WAY better than I did.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095995)
Posted by o.supreme on February 19th, 2021 @ 4:46pm CST
Rtron wrote: Also, what's all this about berating the guy for not watching an old cartoon commercial? The dude just likes Unicron and has the money, let the guy be. It's not like he's missing out on a masterpiece of film, and even if he was, it would be his loss.


I never berated anyone, and certainly commercials were not part of the discussion (not sure where that came from), only the original film. I just asked a question. I just thought it was different for someone to pay $600 for a toy based on a character they have no connection to, I learned something new, and that is fine. If anything, I was name called, but I chose not to acknowledge that previously, in favor of taking the higher road and having an intelligent discussion

Rtron wrote:If Transformers doesn't come up with something new soon, it will go the way of superhero comics: senile, boring and on life support. Nostalgia can only go so far.


The comic book industry is suffering now because long time fans have stopped purchasing comics, and watching ancillary media because of drastic changes. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, it’s just a fact. I stopped buying IDW comics when the continuity ended in 2018 and sold all the ones I had. I don’t support IDW anymore, the same can be said for many fans. If some people like it that is fine, but if it fails, it’s not my fault because I chose not to support it.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095997)
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2021 @ 5:02pm CST
I've never understood why some people feel the need to make other people justify their collecting habits.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2095998)
Posted by Rtron on February 19th, 2021 @ 5:05pm CST
o.supreme wrote:
Rtron wrote: Also, what's all this about berating the guy for not watching an old cartoon commercial? The dude just likes Unicron and has the money, let the guy be. It's not like he's missing out on a masterpiece of film, and even if he was, it would be his loss.


I never berated anyone, and certainly commercials were not part of the discussion (not sure where that came from), only the original film. I just asked a question. I just thought it was different for someone to pay $600 for a toy based on a character they have no connection to, I learned something new, and that is fine. If anything, I was name called, but I chose not to acknowledge that previously, in favor of taking the higher road and having an intelligent discussion

Rtron wrote:If Transformers doesn't come up with something new soon, it will go the way of superhero comics: senile, boring and on life support. Nostalgia can only go so far.


The comic book industry is suffering now because long time fans have stopped purchasing comics, and watching ancillary media because of drastic changes. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, it’s just a fact. I stopped buying IDW comics when the continuity ended in 2018 and sold all the ones I had. I don’t support IDW anymore, the same can be said for many fans. If some people like it that is fine, but if it fails, it’s not my fault because I chose not to support it.


I don't want to derail to much into comics, but I specifically meant superhero comics, which instead of moving forward, keep trying to recapture old glories, which they can't, because it's no longer that time. They aren't just alienating old fans, they alienate everyone, because the developments happening in the stories no longer matter, not even death. As for IDW, I'm very satisfied by the way the continuity ended, I think it "died a hero before becoming a villain". I'm just a bit dissapointed that the new one is just another retelling. It was just an analogy and this is not a comics thread, so I'll leave that there.

The movie is a toy commercial, as is all Transformers media, whether we like it or not, it's just that some are excellent commercials.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, tone can be difficult to read through text. It read as people berating a guy for not being into Transformers for the same reason older fans are. If that's not what you meant to say, then that's fine.

I do think Alekese would be doing himself a favor by looking up on Youtube the scene where Unicron transforms, as it is pretty awesome. But, it's up to him.

Edit: The toy also transforms just like he does on that scene, now that I'm watching it again! With the hand-pops-then-wrists-swivel thing and everything.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096017)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 20th, 2021 @ 12:40am CST
First-Aid wrote:Cyberverse is ending.
It's getting two TV movies.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096022)
Posted by alekese on February 20th, 2021 @ 2:24am CST
Looks like I accidentally kicked over an anthill, woops. Want to clarify that I have nothing against o.supreme and AcademyofDr.X; I realize that by airing grievances I have with my experience in the fandom in a reply to their comments, it implies that I'm accusing them of those things, when that isn't the case. Their only "crime" is expressing surprise/incredulity over a medium that doesn't convey nuance or tone well, in a thread whos last few pages of negativity have tinted everyone's perceptions for the worse. I will note that I referred to 86 as a commercial at the end of my diatribe, which is where that quibble came from.

Rtron wrote:I haven't seen much vitriol directed at the line by itself, but rather, at how we seem to always go back to the same well. Most people don't dislike G1. I think most of us who came after it was long dead actually really like the designs. Hell, Siege/Earthrise seem to have been a big success with "younger" adult fans. What post-G1 people dislike is how all-encompassing it's become. That everything has to fit G1. I LOVE the G1 robots, they're cool as hell! But I strongly dislike that it's the bar that every new Transformers is measured against, and how much it seems to force the brand to remain stagnant. The pushback every new idea gets is what's bothersome. Hell, even the movieverse is going G1 now. If there were any alternatives, it wouldn't be a problem. But there aren't, specially in fiction. Toy-wise, the situation is slowly getting quite better.

This. This this thisthisthis. This is the core of my issue with g1, at least toywise. I don't have a problem with the toys, per se, having gotten much of WFC. It's that it's the only thing on the menu.

In fact, that's a really great metaphor. The fandom as a whole is a party, with hasbro as the host, and the franchise's various offerings the food catering. The first time the party is hosted, the host serves pizza, and it's a smash hit. People can't get enough of it, and as the weeks go by they try new toppings to keep people coming back, but some of the choices, like anchovies, are questionable, and people start leaving, and more pizza is left untouched at the table. Realizing they have to change things, the host switches to chinese takeout instead. The reaction is immediate. Although there is a large group of attendees who are vocal about the fact that they thought this was a pizza party, enough are willing to try the takeout, and enough new attendees are lured in by it when they weren't by the pizza, that the takeout is a success for a while. Eventually, more and more of the takeout is left uneaten at the end of the night, so the process repeats with mexican, then cold cuts, then seafood. And all this time, this same group of attendees continue to gripe about the lack of pizza. So the host finally relents, and room at the buffet is made to bring pizza back, and it is devoured. Not only do the complainers enjoy it, but many who had stopped attending come back to remember the taste, and the newer attendees sample it too, enjoying it as well. Seeing as the pizza was a success once more, and that some of the sushi was left untouched, the host allots more of the catering budget to pizza.

Although the pizza is doing okay, the seafood side of the table is starting to get left behind, so the host shakes things up and replaces it with fast food; greasy, unhealthy, slightly misshapen and absolutely delicious. The pizza only crowd hates seeing it at the same table, but it disappears at the same rate as the pizza, so they are forced to abide by its presence. There's fried chicken there too, but it falls by the wayside in the face of the two more popular dishes, as does indian. The host fills the space left behind with lunchables, intended primarily for the kids. The recipe for the fast food changes, becoming too greasy for most, so it falls by the wayside, much of its space taken up by more pizza. An experiment is tried with pizzaburgers, and though successful, it took away space from the fast food, not the pizza. After longstanding requests, a small amount of room is made at the pizza table to bring back takeout, but the pizza displaced is merely moved to the fast food table, since the depleted menu left room there.

Generation 1 is like pizza. There's nothing wrong with it, and it's enjoyable, with a wide variety of toppings of varying degrees of appeal, like combiners with pepperoni like broad spectrum approval, or pretenders, who have many detractors, but some fans still swear swear by it, like pineapple. It's good. It tastes alright. But it's been served nonstop in some form or another for nearly the entire history of the brand. After a certain point, it doesn't matter how good a pizza is, because eventually you get sick of having it over and over and over again. But there's a small group yelling about how the blend of cheeses isn't exactly how they remember, and the crust needs to be crispier, and their raised voices carry across the hall, and are what is heard and fresh in the host's mind when it comes time to plan the spread for the next event. Most of the rest didn't complain about the pizza, per se, because it was still good. But it wasn't until the under-the-breath mutterings of 'pizza again?' became widespread enough to be noticed past the pizza brigade's shouting that room was cleared at the table, and it remains to be seen whether or not the change will stick.

I have nothing against the pizza. I don't hate it, and have enjoyed the pizza I've had. But I'm starting to get tired of having it over and over, and the arguing about how the cheese isn't the right shade of golden brown from the next table over is getting on my nerves, and I could kill for some General Tso's.

*edit:
Rtron wrote:I do think Alekese would be doing himself a favor by looking up on Youtube the scene where Unicron transforms, as it is pretty awesome. But, it's up to him..

That is one of the promotional clips I've seen that I mentioned, yeah. I thought the arm transformation matching was an inspired touch.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096027)
Posted by First-Aid on February 20th, 2021 @ 8:15am CST
alekese wrote:Looks like I accidentally kicked over an anthill, woops. Want to clarify that I have nothing against o.supreme and AcademyofDr.X; I realize that by airing grievances I have with my experience in the fandom in a reply to their comments, it implies that I'm accusing them of those things, when that isn't the case. Their only "crime" is expressing surprise/incredulity over a medium that doesn't convey nuance or tone well, in a thread whos last few pages of negativity have tinted everyone's perceptions for the worse. I will note that I referred to 86 as a commercial at the end of my diatribe, which is where that quibble came from.

Rtron wrote:I haven't seen much vitriol directed at the line by itself, but rather, at how we seem to always go back to the same well. Most people don't dislike G1. I think most of us who came after it was long dead actually really like the designs. Hell, Siege/Earthrise seem to have been a big success with "younger" adult fans. What post-G1 people dislike is how all-encompassing it's become. That everything has to fit G1. I LOVE the G1 robots, they're cool as hell! But I strongly dislike that it's the bar that every new Transformers is measured against, and how much it seems to force the brand to remain stagnant. The pushback every new idea gets is what's bothersome. Hell, even the movieverse is going G1 now. If there were any alternatives, it wouldn't be a problem. But there aren't, specially in fiction. Toy-wise, the situation is slowly getting quite better.

This. This this thisthisthis. This is the core of my issue with g1, at least toywise. I don't have a problem with the toys, per se, having gotten much of WFC. It's that it's the only thing on the menu.

In fact, that's a really great metaphor. The fandom as a whole is a party, with hasbro as the host, and the franchise's various offerings the food catering. The first time the party is hosted, the host serves pizza, and it's a smash hit. People can't get enough of it, and as the weeks go by they try new toppings to keep people coming back, but some of the choices, like anchovies, are questionable, and people start leaving, and more pizza is left untouched at the table. Realizing they have to change things, the host switches to chinese takeout instead. The reaction is immediate. Although there is a large group of attendees who are vocal about the fact that they thought this was a pizza party, enough are willing to try the takeout, and enough new attendees are lured in by it when they weren't by the pizza, that the takeout is a success for a while. Eventually, more and more of the takeout is left uneaten at the end of the night, so the process repeats with mexican, then cold cuts, then seafood. And all this time, this same group of attendees continue to gripe about the lack of pizza. So the host finally relents, and room at the buffet is made to bring pizza back, and it is devoured. Not only do the complainers enjoy it, but many who had stopped attending come back to remember the taste, and the newer attendees sample it too, enjoying it as well. Seeing as the pizza was a success once more, and that some of the sushi was left untouched, the host allots more of the catering budget to pizza.

Although the pizza is doing okay, the seafood side of the table is starting to get left behind, so the host shakes things up and replaces it with fast food; greasy, unhealthy, slightly misshapen and absolutely delicious. The pizza only crowd hates seeing it at the same table, but it disappears at the same rate as the pizza, so they are forced to abide by its presence. There's fried chicken there too, but it falls by the wayside in the face of the two more popular dishes, as does indian. The host fills the space left behind with lunchables, intended primarily for the kids. The recipe for the fast food changes, becoming too greasy for most, so it falls by the wayside, much of its space taken up by more pizza. An experiment is tried with pizzaburgers, and though successful, it took away space from the fast food, not the pizza. After longstanding requests, a small amount of room is made at the pizza table to bring back takeout, but the pizza displaced is merely moved to the fast food table, since the depleted menu left room there.

Generation 1 is like pizza. There's nothing wrong with it, and it's enjoyable, with a wide variety of toppings of varying degrees of appeal, like combiners with pepperoni like broad spectrum approval, or pretenders, who have many detractors, but some fans still swear swear by it, like pineapple. It's good. It tastes alright. But it's been served nonstop in some form or another for nearly the entire history of the brand. After a certain point, it doesn't matter how good a pizza is, because eventually you get sick of having it over and over and over again. But there's a small group yelling about how the blend of cheeses isn't exactly how they remember, and the crust needs to be crispier, and their raised voices carry across the hall, and are what is heard and fresh in the host's mind when it comes time to plan the spread for the next event. Most of the rest didn't complain about the pizza, per se, because it was still good. But it wasn't until the under-the-breath mutterings of 'pizza again?' became widespread enough to be noticed past the pizza brigades shouting that room was cleared at the table, and it remains to be seen whether or not the change will stick.

I have nothing against the pizza. I don't hate it, and have enjoyed the pizza I've had. But I'm starting to get tired of having it over and over, and the arguing about how the cheese isn't the right shade of golden brown from the next table over is getting on my nerves, and I could kill for some General Tso's.

*edit:
Rtron wrote:I do think Alekese would be doing himself a favor by looking up on Youtube the scene where Unicron transforms, as it is pretty awesome. But, it's up to him..

That is one of the promotional clips I've seen that I mentioned, yeah. I though the arm transformation matching was an inspired touch.


I am going to hire you as my spokesperson. You nailed everything I've been trying to say, and did it without my normal lack of tact and sticking the whole of my foot, knee, and leg in my mouth. Well said. Extremely well said.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096071)
Posted by Dead Metal on February 21st, 2021 @ 4:38am CST
Rtron wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Rtron wrote: Also, what's all this about berating the guy for not watching an old cartoon commercial? The dude just likes Unicron and has the money, let the guy be. It's not like he's missing out on a masterpiece of film, and even if he was, it would be his loss.


I never berated anyone, and certainly commercials were not part of the discussion (not sure where that came from), only the original film. I just asked a question. I just thought it was different for someone to pay $600 for a toy based on a character they have no connection to, I learned something new, and that is fine. If anything, I was name called, but I chose not to acknowledge that previously, in favor of taking the higher road and having an intelligent discussion

Rtron wrote:If Transformers doesn't come up with something new soon, it will go the way of superhero comics: senile, boring and on life support. Nostalgia can only go so far.


The comic book industry is suffering now because long time fans have stopped purchasing comics, and watching ancillary media because of drastic changes. I’m not saying it’s good or bad, it’s just a fact. I stopped buying IDW comics when the continuity ended in 2018 and sold all the ones I had. I don’t support IDW anymore, the same can be said for many fans. If some people like it that is fine, but if it fails, it’s not my fault because I chose not to support it.


I don't want to derail to much into comics, but I specifically meant superhero comics, which instead of moving forward, keep trying to recapture old glories, which they can't, because it's no longer that time. They aren't just alienating old fans, they alienate everyone, because the developments happening in the stories no longer matter, not even death. As for IDW, I'm very satisfied by the way the continuity ended, I think it "died a hero before becoming a villain". I'm just a bit dissapointed that the new one is just another retelling. It was just an analogy and this is not a comics thread, so I'll leave that there.

Sorry to derail this further, I wanted to reply to this yesterday, but had a work related surprise come in.
To add to the alienation, a huge part of that is that the industry decided to be too greedy and stopped including newsstands, supermarkets, et in their distribution, because unlike comicbook stores they would return unsold copies, loosing casual readers and those who had no comicbook store near them. Then the 90s happened and the industry decided to have marketing be the biggest influence of their creative process. Every comic was billed as the next big collector piece, leading to those who enjoyed good comics just dropping the stuff, the ones who remained where the die hards who had to have everything because it was already a big part of their lives, and the "investors". Now the largest group f superhero comic readers are the same from the 80s and 90s, a group that will loyaly buy everythig regardless of quality but also ages and shrinks.
Comics need to expand their readership again, a lot of efforts kinda fail though, because comicbookstores have a bad rep and the die hards don't want anything to change, which is why Peter Parker just de ages every couple of years. That's why the idw TMNT comics are so refreshing, they do what MArvel used to do from the 60s up to the mid 80s, they evolve and develop and go on and include actual change, instead of just randomly replacing a core character with someone else for a few months, just to then bring everyone back.

The movie is a toy commercial, as is all Transformers media, whether we like it or not, it's just that some are excellent commercials.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, tone can be difficult to read through text. It read as people berating a guy for not being into Transformers for the same reason older fans are. If that's not what you meant to say, then that's fine.

I do think Alekese would be doing himself a favor by looking up on Youtube the scene where Unicron transforms, as it is pretty awesome. But, it's up to him.

Edit: The toy also transforms just like he does on that scene, now that I'm watching it again! With the hand-pops-then-wrists-swivel thing and everything.

And yes, Unicron transforming is pure eye candy. The movie isn't very good, it's fun and features some great animation as well as voice acting, but I do think everyone should at least watch it once. And failing that Just look up the Unicron transformation scene, the Megatron getting reformatted into Galvatron (goddamn that's beautiful) and the Siege of Autobot city.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096081)
Posted by Sharktocron on February 21st, 2021 @ 6:34am CST
Emerje wrote:Look, Hasbro, we get it, there's a pandemic and shipping is delayed. Just tell the truth, tell us that you need an extra month to get these out of Asia.


I believe mine's arriving in store 15 March.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096104)
Posted by Rtron on February 21st, 2021 @ 12:34pm CST
I had a whole response thought out, but I promised I'd leave the comic book thing there. So I'll just say that yeah, the reasons you mentioned in your post are the gist of why mainstream american comic books are in the dumps.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096108)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2021 @ 1:36pm CST
Dead Metal wrote:And yes, Unicron transforming is pure eye candy. The movie isn't very good, it's fun and features some great animation as well as voice acting, but I do think everyone should at least watch it once. And failing that Just look up the Unicron transformation scene, the Megatron getting reformatted into Galvatron (goddamn that's beautiful) and the Siege of Autobot city.


The '86 movie is indeed complete trash as a whole. But there's many scenes that are absolutely marvelous if taken separately.

Unicron's intro.

Optimus Prime enter the battle. (YOU GOT THE TOUCH, YOU GOT THE PAWAAAAH!)

Unicron transforming into bot.

I often play the movie just to watch these epic scenes.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096111)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on February 21st, 2021 @ 3:30pm CST
You really think that? Without letting this thread derail any more towards the 86 movie, I'll just say that watching it for the 1st time was 1 of my favorite memories when I was younger and I like watching it at least once a year to this day. It has a few bad parts, sure (any scenes with junkions as the main feature in them) but otherwise it's a great story from start to finish in my opinion with top notch animation. It just looks beautiful on a big screen hi-res TV.

My favorite scene is also Unicron's transformation, mainly because if the animation, and the shock if seeing it for the 1st time, and if I had the extra $600 at the time, I would have gotten this Unicron, even though I think he has panel-itis. It's not perfect, but it's a nice piece, even if I don't think it's worth $600 now.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096118)
Posted by First Gen on February 21st, 2021 @ 4:43pm CST
If it brings you happiness, it was a solid purchase.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096140)
Posted by Sharktocron on February 21st, 2021 @ 10:14pm CST
First Gen wrote:If it brings you happiness, it was a solid purchase.


That's really what matters here.

A lot of the critique and discussion seems to be coming from people who never wanted a Unicron figure at all or people salty they missed out.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096146)
Posted by Emerje on February 22nd, 2021 @ 12:42am CST
Fact is Unicron has always been touted as a War for Cybertron figure and has been given all the accuracy of any other WfC figure. Maybe our expectations of him being movie accurate was misguided, especially after his "inside" playset mode was removed during the design phase.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096150)
Posted by Dead Metal on February 22nd, 2021 @ 2:31am CST
Emerje wrote:Fact is Unicron has always been touted as a War for Cybertron figure and has been given all the accuracy of any other WfC figure. Maybe our expectations of him being movie accurate was misguided, especially after his "inside" playset mode was removed during the design phase.

Emerje

That's not really an excuse for missing paintapps from details they were hyping up though.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096153)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 22nd, 2021 @ 3:49am CST
Dead Metal wrote:
Emerje wrote:Fact is Unicron has always been touted as a War for Cybertron figure and has been given all the accuracy of any other WfC figure. Maybe our expectations of him being movie accurate was misguided, especially after his "inside" playset mode was removed during the design phase.

Emerje

That's not really an excuse for missing paintapps from details they were hyping up though.


That part is a big WTF. Especially for the "Ultimate" Transformers.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096160)
Posted by DMSL on February 22nd, 2021 @ 8:28am CST
I am not bothered by the mount being a different colour, i think it still looks good.

I didn't buy Unicron, i think he is way too expensive. The complexity of the transformation and kibble amount is not something i would pay that amount for. I also think he is prone to damage, judging by the reviews i have seen. All the armature that holds the planet pieces are very thin and worries me greatly that they will break at some point.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096162)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 22nd, 2021 @ 8:58am CST
There's just no excuse for the lack of paint apps on the teeth or the maw. The teeth are fixable, but the maw isn't.

Still like the figure. No regrets buying it. But it really is a "glass half full" situation where you have to look at everything else they got right.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096170)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 22nd, 2021 @ 10:07am CST
Guys, the problem with the maw being blue instead of yellow isn't that it's lacking yellow paint. It's that they changed the maw's plastic color from yellow to blue when it should have stayed yellow. It was always unpainted even in the colored prototype.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096185)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on February 22nd, 2021 @ 12:25pm CST
DMSL wrote:I am not bothered by the mount being a different colour, i think it still looks good.

I didn't buy Unicron, i think he is way too expensive. The complexity of the transformation and kibble amount is not something i would pay that amount for. I also think he is prone to damage, judging by the reviews i have seen. All the armature that holds the planet pieces are very thin and worries me greatly that they will break at some point.


I'm waiting for more people to get it in hand and see what happens. If there's widespread breakage over time I expect a lot of people will be contacting Hasbro and their Credit Card companies.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096206)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 22nd, 2021 @ 3:46pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, the problem with the maw being blue instead of yellow isn't that it's lacking yellow paint. It's that they changed the maw's plastic color from yellow to blue when it should have stayed yellow. It was always unpainted even in the colored prototype.

That's sort of arguing semantics, though.

The change in plastics wouldn't be a problem if they had used yellow paint, right?

Although you can also say changing the plastics at all was the main problem.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096210)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 22nd, 2021 @ 3:56pm CST
Depends if problems arise when it came to actually casting the plastic and could only put the maw in with blue plastic. And as for being unpainted, they might have allocated all of the painting budget by the time they discovered that the maw was going to be blue.

As I said before, cartoon accuracy be dammed, I think this looks better this way.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096213)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 22nd, 2021 @ 4:32pm CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, the problem with the maw being blue instead of yellow isn't that it's lacking yellow paint. It's that they changed the maw's plastic color from yellow to blue when it should have stayed yellow. It was always unpainted even in the colored prototype.

That's sort of arguing semantics, though.

The change in plastics wouldn't be a problem if they had used yellow paint, right?

Although you can also say changing the plastics at all was the main problem.
Complaining about a lack of paint on the maw is complaining about something that was never there to begin with. It is the change in plastic color that's the main problem.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2096237)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on February 22nd, 2021 @ 10:46pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Guys, the problem with the maw being blue instead of yellow isn't that it's lacking yellow paint. It's that they changed the maw's plastic color from yellow to blue when it should have stayed yellow. It was always unpainted even in the colored prototype.

That's sort of arguing semantics, though.

The change in plastics wouldn't be a problem if they had used yellow paint, right?

Although you can also say changing the plastics at all was the main problem.
Complaining about a lack of paint on the maw is complaining about something that was never there to begin with. It is the change in plastic color that's the main problem.

>:oP

...

The problem is that it isn't yellow. I'll leave it at that.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2097379)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 6th, 2021 @ 11:50am CST
Prime VS Prime had fun dekibling Unicron:

Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2097812)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 10:31am CST
Got an email this morning titled "Important news about your TFSource WFC Unicron order":
Dear TFSource Customer,

The time has come! Transformers: War for Cybertron Unicron is almost here and we are just as excited as you are to finally add the larger-than-life figure in hand. Since it has been over a year from the initial preorder release, we want to address a few things prior to shipping to help ensure a smooth delivery.

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Second, we know this is an extremely important collectible and centerpiece of each collection. To protect this collectible in transit TFSource is taking additional steps to secure the box packaging is not damaged in transit including: Double boxing each piece with a sturdy double-wall corrugate outer box and additional bubble wrapping. However, please note that even with the precautions we are taking, TFSource cannot guarantee the box condition of the figure due to the large box size.

Finally, as previously mentioned Free Shipping will not apply to this product due to the yearly increased shipping rates and extreme oversized box that Unicron will ship in. We will reach out to each customer individually with your balance of payment due for Unicron and the additional shipping costs.

We look forward to seeing Unicron apart of your collection. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us at customercare@tfsource.com

Your Friends at TFSource!
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2097842)
Posted by o.supreme on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:22pm CST
Wow...so they are going to stick it to each customer for extra shipping, harsh...
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2097845)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 11th, 2021 @ 2:32pm CST
o.supreme wrote:Wow...so they are going to stick it to each customer for extra shipping, harsh...
They said a long time ago that the free shipping wouldn't apply.
Re: New Video Review of HasLab Transformers War for Cybertron Trilogy Unicron (2098057)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 13th, 2021 @ 10:09am CST

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