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New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag

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Thursday, May 6th, 2021 8:40AM CDT

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Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Darth JoJo Gojira Prime 1939, we've learned that YouTuber, Kremzeek Reviews, has just unloaded a brand new video review of the forthcoming Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag!

While this figure is yet to be officially revealed by Hasbro, we've known of its existence for some time based on leaked listings and the photos that emerged a month or so ago. The figure is highly accurate to his appearance in the movie and comes with a small Daniel minifigure. He is the second of the Dinobots to debut under this new line, following on from Grimlock and Wheelie.

Check out the review below!



What do you think of the review? Are you excited to get this dinobot?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!
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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103865)
Posted by Spider5800 on May 6th, 2021 @ 9:54am CDT
He looks reeeeeally good. My only real complaints are that I'm not a fan of the red head (its cartoon accurate, though, so I get why they went with it), and the "accessories" could be better (would rather they had included a sword than a mediocre Daniel figure). Other than that, this is probably as good as they can get for a mass-released leader sized version of this character.

Especially glad he doesn't appear to have all the hollow gaps on him that the Grimlock had.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103867)
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 6th, 2021 @ 9:58am CDT
Toy accuracy: SUPERIOR!
Cartoon accuracy: INFERIOR!

I don't care what anybody says, a solid red head on Slag just looks horrible & it doesn't match the other Dinobots.

I'm so sick & tired of cartoon accuracy. Just like Marvel Legends & Power Rangers, Hasbro needs to start making swappable heads for Transformers. Some of us want the toy accurate heads. And Shapeways is a complete rip-off! They ship a head the size of a pea in a huge box & charge $8.99. Hasbro could easily include a toy accurate head in the box. If Takara could do it for MP Bumblebee why can't Hasbro do it with all the characters that had their faces ruined by the cartoon? (especially poor Trailbreaker. Nobody can say Trailbreaker's cartoon face was an improvement.)

I didn't watch the cartoon much when I was a kid because my TV station kept playing the same couple episodes over & over again. It was always episode 1 with Bumblebee & Wheeljack back on Cybertron. I was all about the toys. So to me, cartoon accuracy looks weird. Every time they do this I either have to repaint it or order a head off Shapeways.

Most of the characters simply had their mouth plate removed like Tracks. Remember the GI Joe Sci-Fi figure? Hasbro included an alternate head with him that wasn't even necessary. Toy accurate heads for Transformers are necessary.

And look how they always make sure to give Jetfire the cartoon face AND a mask that's similar to the original toy. That should be automatic for every Transformer that had an alternate cartoon face. I never have a problem when they release a new Jetfire because he always has his cool toy accurate face.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103868)
Posted by o.supreme on May 6th, 2021 @ 10:02am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't think it matters too much to Hasbro when they throw these sets together with additional figures to fill out a price point. Obviously, having a thematic relationship would be preferred, but more often than not, it's not been the priority. Studio Series Shockwave came with Wheelie, Brains, and a paratrooper human figure just because they could stick them in there and still not exceed the Leader Class price point, not because they all shared an iconic scene together in Dark of the Moon. Or, look at Netflix Wave 1 Megatron, who came with two "Captive" Autobot Battle Masters, Lionizer and Pinpointer. That never happened in the show, but Hasbro thought it made for a good gift set, so why not? I think Grimlock being paired up with Wheelie is more of a serendipitous rarity than a rule when it comes to designing these sets.

I would also go 1 step further and say there is no guarantee that any other Leader Dinobots will even come with an extra figure. For Sludge and Snarl, each of their dino modes have some dino parts that will likely require a little more plastic than Grimlock and Slag did, particularly Sludge's neck and tail, and Snarl's spine plates. I can easily see those areas eating up all the available plastic for their molds.

This is true, and something to consider. Will be interesting to see if the rumour that Swoop is being sold as a voyager is right or not.


Man I hope that's not true. Swoop is as tall as the other dinobots, would be a shame to mess up the scale after being so diligent.


Well, there's not much of a height difference between Kingdom Voyager Cyclonus, and Leader Galvatron, maybe a centimeter or two? I don't really have a preference, but it could be that Swoop has far less mass/plastic parts, so they could make him a tall voyager, to scale with the other much beefier Dinobots. ;)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103870)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on May 6th, 2021 @ 10:08am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Darth JoJo Gojira Prime 1939, we've learned that YouTuber, Kremzeek Reviews, has just unloaded a brand new video review of the forthcoming Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag!

While this figure is yet to be officially revealed by Hasbro, we've known of its existence for some time based on leaked listings and the photos that emerged a month or so ago. The figure is highly accurate to his appearance in the movie and comes with a small Daniel minifigure. He is the second of the Dinobots to debut under this new line, following on from Grimlock and Wheelie.

Check out the review below!



What do you think of the review? Are you excited to get this dinobot?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!


Forget being a "Mini-Masterpiece," Studio Series 86 Slag IS a bonafide "Masterpiece," even if it is in a Generations line!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103874)
Posted by Tuned Agent on May 6th, 2021 @ 10:32am CDT
o.supreme wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Wolfman Jake wrote:I don't think it matters too much to Hasbro when they throw these sets together with additional figures to fill out a price point. Obviously, having a thematic relationship would be preferred, but more often than not, it's not been the priority. Studio Series Shockwave came with Wheelie, Brains, and a paratrooper human figure just because they could stick them in there and still not exceed the Leader Class price point, not because they all shared an iconic scene together in Dark of the Moon. Or, look at Netflix Wave 1 Megatron, who came with two "Captive" Autobot Battle Masters, Lionizer and Pinpointer. That never happened in the show, but Hasbro thought it made for a good gift set, so why not? I think Grimlock being paired up with Wheelie is more of a serendipitous rarity than a rule when it comes to designing these sets.

I would also go 1 step further and say there is no guarantee that any other Leader Dinobots will even come with an extra figure. For Sludge and Snarl, each of their dino modes have some dino parts that will likely require a little more plastic than Grimlock and Slag did, particularly Sludge's neck and tail, and Snarl's spine plates. I can easily see those areas eating up all the available plastic for their molds.

This is true, and something to consider. Will be interesting to see if the rumour that Swoop is being sold as a voyager is right or not.


Man I hope that's not true. Swoop is as tall as the other dinobots, would be a shame to mess up the scale after being so diligent.


Well, there's not much of a height difference between Kingdom Voyager Cyclonus, and Leader Galvatron, maybe a centimeter or two? I don't really have a preference, but it could be that Swoop has far less mass/plastic parts, so they could make him a tall voyager, to scale with the other much beefier Dinobots. ;)

The small height difference between Cyclonus and Galvatron is really more because Galvatron is a very short leader.

Can someone who has both SS86 Grimlock and one of the SS voyager Megatrons please post a comparison picture? SS Megs is about the upper limit on voyager size now, so a comparison would settle this once and for all.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103886)
Posted by Changewinds on May 6th, 2021 @ 11:44am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Greetings Seibertronians! Thanks to fellow Seibertron user, Darth JoJo Gojira Prime 1939, we've learned that YouTuber, Kremzeek Reviews, has just unloaded a brand new video review of the forthcoming Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag!

While this figure is yet to be officially revealed by Hasbro, we've known of its existence for some time based on leaked listings and the photos that emerged a month or so ago. The figure is highly accurate to his appearance in the movie and comes with a small Daniel minifigure. He is the second of the Dinobots to debut under this new line, following on from Grimlock and Wheelie.

Check out the review below!



What do you think of the review? Are you excited to get this dinobot?

Shout out in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!


I find his proportions odd. The tail is definitely better in person and the way the head folds up into the mouth is a great touch. But I thought with the difference from previous transformations, they would make his dinobot form better looking.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103887)
Posted by blackeyedprime on May 6th, 2021 @ 11:53am CDT
Kingdom leader galvatron isnt even as tall as TR voyager galvatron? So yeagh hoping swoop is leader class too -they could include the swords with him and red horns and even the optional heads.

Slag looks really good, would have preferred some cthru plastic on his back lege or somewhere. No doubt toy/chromed versions will be done at some point though.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103888)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 6th, 2021 @ 11:58am CDT
Absolutely in love with Slag! Can't wait to see the rest of the dinobots in the future
Hopefully I can see some comparison shots of him with MP Grimlock

I enjoy kremzeek reviews because he makes a lot of references to the movie and series, makes it more satisfying
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103894)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 6th, 2021 @ 12:44pm CDT
I don't care what anyone says, I think the head done in red looks incredible, and much better than the toy version.
Overall this looks great and is on par with what I'd expect from SS86.

Here's my critique:

Bot mode upper torso (the red portion) is a little wide.
The upper legs (like with other figures) could be a bit longer. And I mean just a tiny bit.
Enough to make him the exact same height as Grimlock.
The Parietal Bone (or frill) should be a bit larger.
I think it'll stand out even more in-hand, but I still think the Siege greebling is a overdone.
I know this subline has included movie-related gimmicks for figures such as Hot Rod and Kup, however, I'm not a fan of the weapon storage in the tail.
Hopefully a 3P will come up with an add-on set that makes a tail piece to finish the gold/yellow tail (and hopefully a sword).
So my dislike of gimmicks continues with the Daniel figure...
I don't even mind that these new Dinobots aren't coming with swords.
But leave out the waste of a little figure.
Use that plastic to ensure things such as solid plastic horns happen... In other words, make the main figure the best it can be.
Especially considering most people interested in this figure don't need or want a pack-in figure.
Those on the fence about this character won't necessarily be persuaded by the pack-in figure.
In fact for some, I'm betting they'll end up passing on this guy because they can't see justifying $50 when the figure could be a bit better, and they have no interest in a faceless figure stuck in a sitting pose.

For me, despite my critical points, I am very happy with how this Slag looks, transforms, etc.
Yeah, the dino mode could be a little better, but relatively speaking it's still very good, and the bot mode is really on point.
This is one of those cases where if and when the next Slag is released-- IF it's not an MP version --any improvements most likely won't be enough for me to buy it.
And if the figure itself suffers from whichever inevitable gimmick Hastak plans to throw-in for a future line, then imo there's no way a better version will happen in the handful of years left that I plan to be collecting.

I know it's going to take a little patience, but in the next year or so it's going to be really exciting to eventually see 5 G1 leader class Dinobots on the same shelf...
Talk about making me feel like a kid!!!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103898)
Posted by Cyber Bishop on May 6th, 2021 @ 2:08pm CDT
I love it and I will get him on sight..
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103911)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 6th, 2021 @ 4:46pm CDT
Cyber Bishop wrote:I love it and I will get him on sight..
Me too. And since I think Grimlock should be taller than Slag, he'll be going next to my MP Grimlock.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103913)
Posted by daedalus25 on May 6th, 2021 @ 5:48pm CDT
I already preordered Slag on Amazon, and I'm not regretting it one bit. This is exactly the Slag I've been waiting 35 years for. Same with Hot Rod, Tracks, Jazz, and Jetfire. Having grown up on the cartoon, I remember as a kid trying to kitbash my toys to make them look more like the cartoon. I remember making paper fins for the back of Tracks, I'd try to tape together the booster rockets on Jetfire, and I even made a paper head that would fold up for Ironhide. My only disappointment (and a very minor one it is) is that Jazz didn't come with his retractable stereo speakers.

I hear several people complaining about wanting more Bayverse figures or toy-accurate figures. Sorry, but I don't have a bit of sympathy. I've waited 35 years to get cartoon accurate figures, and this is the first time we're finally getting them. When it's the year 2040, and you still haven't gotten Bayverse figures, then I'll definitely sympathize. And I don't even get the complaint about "toy-accuracy". If you truly want toy-accuracy, then buy the 80s version. You can't get much more accurate than that! :-P (Yes, yes, I know you want a more POSEABLE version of the 80s toy. But seriously, have you seen the artwork that came with those toys? I'd be impressed if they could make the toys actually pose like that.)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103931)
Posted by Nemesis Reformatted on May 6th, 2021 @ 9:00pm CDT
daedalus25 wrote: But seriously, have you seen the artwork that came with those toys?


Have you seen the crappy artwork in the cartoon? Why do you guys worship the cartoon so much? A lot of the changes in the cartoon were completely unnecessary. Transformers are robots. Most of the G1 toys had robot faces. What was the point of changing them to human faces? Was Bumblebee's original toy face really so horrible that they needed to change it into a stupid looking human face???

Better yet, explain to me why Slag needed to have the color of his head changed? What possible purpose did it serve? To me, it seems like a totally unnecessary & pointless change. All the other Dinobots were just fine with black heads & silver faces. What was it about Slag that made black & silver not work & require a change? Why did somebody look at Slag & say "You know what? That doesn't work! We need to totally change the color of his head"???

A lot of the changes in the G1 cartoon make no sense. I understand why they changed Ratchet, Ironhide & Jetfire. But all the others? Nope! Totally unnecessary. Most of them didn't need to be changed at all. Especially poor Trailbreaker. Trailbreaker got the dumbest looking face in the cartoon. Compare it to the awesome robot face on the original toy.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103935)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 6th, 2021 @ 9:20pm CDT
Nemesis Reformatted wrote:
daedalus25 wrote: But seriously, have you seen the artwork that came with those toys?


Have you seen the crappy artwork in the cartoon? Why do you guys worship the cartoon so much? A lot of the changes in the cartoon were completely unnecessary. Transformers are robots. Most of the G1 toys had robot faces. What was the point of changing them to human faces? Was Bumblebee's original toy face really so horrible that they needed to change it into a stupid looking human face???

Better yet, explain to me why Slag needed to have the color of his head changed? What possible purpose did it serve? To me, it seems like a totally unnecessary & pointless change. All the other Dinobots were just fine with black heads & silver faces. What was it about Slag that made black & silver not work & require a change? Why did somebody look at Slag & say "You know what? That doesn't work! We need to totally change the color of his head"???

A lot of the changes in the G1 cartoon make no sense. I understand why they changed Ratchet, Ironhide & Jetfire. But all the others? Nope! Totally unnecessary. Most of them didn't need to be changed at all. Especially poor Trailbreaker. Trailbreaker got the dumbest looking face in the cartoon. Compare it to the awesome robot face on the original toy.


Look, it’s difficult to know why certain changes were made.
In terms of Slag’s head/face... My best guess is to add in a little variety? Swoop’s head was Red & Light Gray...
Maybe someone thought more Red amongst the group would look good.
But either way, that’s the point— someone DID think it looked good.

Another decent assumption is that any human-like characteristics were added to characters’ appearances because the creators thought it would make them easier to relate with.
Who knows.

I’ll speak for myself; I like the cartoon because of the pure nostalgia.
It was the show that brought these other wise random characters to life.
I’d think that like me, a lot of people have a concrete vision of these characters, both appearance & personality-wise based on what was seen on the show.

For how crazy or unreasonable these new figures may seem to you, there are probably more people than you’d think that are beyond excited about them.
And for people who are so tired of G1, finally getting figures like these are actually part of the whole evolution...
IF figures like these would’ve been released years ago, then yeah, who knows where TF lines could be right now.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103937)
Posted by Ultra Markus on May 6th, 2021 @ 9:39pm CDT
it looks good to me
i think next will be sludge because
grimlock, slag and sludge were the first ones made in the show
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103949)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 7th, 2021 @ 1:57am CDT
I've always heard a rumor that whenever possible they wanted to give the robots humanoid faces to better express emotion. That's why most of the characters in the live-action films have retractable face masks. Also keep in mind that there really wasn't anything they could do about the toys, as they were reused from another line that was probably never meant to have animation.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103954)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on May 7th, 2021 @ 3:47am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:In terms of Slag’s head/face... My best guess is to add in a little variety? Swoop’s head was Red & Light Gray...
Maybe someone thought more Red amongst the group would look good.
But either way, that’s the point— someone DID think it looked good.


Considering the *ahem* quality of the cartoon, it's more likely that the face was originally meant to be silver to differentiate from his helmet. This is the same cartoon that accidentally swapped Frenzy and Rumble's character sheets and sparked the endless debate.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103965)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 7th, 2021 @ 7:52am CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Considering the *ahem* quality of the cartoon, it's more likely that the face was originally meant to be silver to differentiate from his helmet. This is the same cartoon that accidentally swapped Frenzy and Rumble's character sheets and sparked the endless debate.


You bring up an excellent point.

New rule! Anyone so beholden to the cartoon appearances better be calling their blue cassette guy Rumble and their red one Frenzy. The cartoon appearance is the bible after all...
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103968)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 7th, 2021 @ 8:12am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Considering the *ahem* quality of the cartoon, it's more likely that the face was originally meant to be silver to differentiate from his helmet. This is the same cartoon that accidentally swapped Frenzy and Rumble's character sheets and sparked the endless debate.


You bring up an excellent point.

New rule! Anyone so beholden to the cartoon appearances better be calling their blue cassette guy Rumble and their red one Frenzy. The cartoon appearance is the bible after all...
You say that like people who go by the cartoon don't already do that. ;)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103969)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on May 7th, 2021 @ 8:22am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Considering the *ahem* quality of the cartoon, it's more likely that the face was originally meant to be silver to differentiate from his helmet. This is the same cartoon that accidentally swapped Frenzy and Rumble's character sheets and sparked the endless debate.


You bring up an excellent point.

New rule! Anyone so beholden to the cartoon appearances better be calling their blue cassette guy Rumble and their red one Frenzy. The cartoon appearance is the bible after all...
You say that like people who go by the cartoon don't already do that. ;)


I say that absolutely knowing some already do this. My comment was aimed at anyone who's half-assing it.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103970)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 7th, 2021 @ 8:26am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Nuclearxpotato wrote:Considering the *ahem* quality of the cartoon, it's more likely that the face was originally meant to be silver to differentiate from his helmet. This is the same cartoon that accidentally swapped Frenzy and Rumble's character sheets and sparked the endless debate.


You bring up an excellent point.

New rule! Anyone so beholden to the cartoon appearances better be calling their blue cassette guy Rumble and their red one Frenzy. The cartoon appearance is the bible after all...
You say that like people who go by the cartoon don't already do that. ;)


I say that absolutely knowing some already do this. My comment was aimed at anyone who's half-assing it.
I'd say there's way more who are all-in on it than not, hence the decades-old FIRRIB vs. RIRFIB wars. ;)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103972)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 7th, 2021 @ 9:09am CDT
There were plenty of mistakes in the cartoon.
I don't think anyone is denying that.

With Slag's head/face, I don't see how that was a mistake when it was shown that way for every appearance that I can remember. If it was ever different in a scene or two, I'd say that that was the mistake.
This really isn't all that different from Dragstrip being the one Stunticon that was basically all one color, with no gray/black/white for any parts of his limbs.
Or Skydive being the only 1 from that group that has so much black in his bot mode.
Or Long Haul who had a very different, predominantly light gray head compared to the other 5.
Or Swindle; the 1 of 5 that was was overall a brighter, warm color.
So yeah, Bruticus looks ridiculously stupid because his lower right leg clashes with the torso and other limbs. The humanity!!!! What were they thinking??!?!?
In fact, why aren't all of the good guys warm colors, and all the bad guys cool colors???!?!
SO DUMB!!!!

The only thing funnier than the extreme G1 fans are the people who spend time talking about extreme G1 fans.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103973)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 7th, 2021 @ 9:29am CDT
Slag's face is red instead of silver because he's always been the most shy of the autobots, mystery solved
Illoominati confirmed
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103974)
Posted by aronjlove on May 7th, 2021 @ 9:31am CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:Slag's face is red instead of silver because he's always been the most shy of the autobots, mystery solved
Illoominati confirmed

Boom, canon.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103979)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on May 7th, 2021 @ 9:59am CDT
aronjlove wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:Slag's face is red instead of silver because he's always been the most shy of the autobots, mystery solved
Illoominati confirmed

Boom, canon.


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Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103984)
Posted by sol magnus on May 7th, 2021 @ 10:44am CDT
Cyber Bishop wrote:I love it and I will get him on sight..

This.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2103987)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on May 7th, 2021 @ 12:45pm CDT
Regarding the change in head colors...
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It's not like it was an animation only decision. That's the Canadian variant of G1 Slag.

Edit: Oh, talking about a red FACE, not HEAD. Well, teaches me for skimming. :HEADHURTS: Maybe there was a prototype with silver horns (like Diaclone) and an unpainted face.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104126)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 10th, 2021 @ 8:27pm CDT
Slag looks halfway good. I wish the face was colored different, and his chest seems a little wide and the arms a little short, but not bad
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104135)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 10th, 2021 @ 9:52pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Slag looks halfway good. I wish the face was colored different, and his chest seems a little wide and the arms a little short, but not bad


I agree his proportions could be just a little better... I don't think he's quite as good as Grimlock.
But in the grand scheme, he's more than halfway good imo. He's actually really good to me.
A while back Amazon pushed my preorder deliver date to early Nov.
Which would be a cool early b-day present, but I'm hoping I find him well before that at my local Target.


Man, I'm really hoping we get SS86 Insecticons... They're past due in deluxe class scale. I don't think they'd need to be as tall as the Datsuns in bot mode, but if they end up being as tall as Huffer I'll be happy.
To get leader class Dinobots and deluxe class Insecticons within the same year or so...
It would definitely be a highlight of collecting for me!!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104150)
Posted by Evil Eye on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:20am CDT
Not gonna lie- I don't like how he looks. The robot mode is alright, though the proportions don't seem quite right somehow. But the dinosaur mode is just a block, the dino legs honestly look kinda terrible, and Hasbro's habit of faking parts of transformations (in this case his jaw chest) is getting real annoying. A shame as Grimlock was awesome.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104152)
Posted by Bombshell0001 on May 11th, 2021 @ 8:28am CDT
Slag looks great !!!! HASBRO PLEASE DO NOT MESS UP SNARL SWOOP OR SLUDGE !!!!!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104225)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 11th, 2021 @ 7:07pm CDT
Evil Eye wrote:Not gonna lie- I don't like how he looks. The robot mode is alright, though the proportions don't seem quite right somehow. But the dinosaur mode is just a block, the dino legs honestly look kinda terrible, and Hasbro's habit of faking parts of transformations (in this case his jaw chest) is getting real annoying. A shame as Grimlock was awesome.


No, he's not as on point as Grimlock.
In bot mode the chest is a bit wide, which imo makes his shoulders too broad.
Then us upper legs should be just a tad bit longer...

I don't think his dino mode is just a block (not to mention he's supposed to be a stout dino), but his hind legs are a bit thin... Somebody's been skipping out on leg day.

I still don't understand why people hate faux parts when they end up looking so much better...
In this case, if they used the dino jaw, it would look like a baby bib on his bot mode.


*edit
I just watched the review again... And while he could've been a bit better here and there, overall, I'm really excited about this figure!!
Can't wait to see any of the other Dinobots!!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104288)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 12th, 2021 @ 2:16pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:I still don't understand why people hate faux parts when they end up looking so much better...
In this case, if they used the dino jaw, it would look like a baby bib on his bot mode.


It's a choice between two evils really: aesthetically pleasing faux parts with the original parts turned into useless kibble, or grant all pieces a nice place with proportions all over the place. Either way, you can't please everyone with either choice. :evil:
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104295)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 12th, 2021 @ 4:33pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I still don't understand why people hate faux parts when they end up looking so much better...
In this case, if they used the dino jaw, it would look like a baby bib on his bot mode.


It's a choice between two evils really: aesthetically pleasing faux parts with the original parts turned into useless kibble, or grant all pieces a nice place with proportions all over the place. Either way, you can't please everyone with either choice. :evil:


I obviously get what you're saying.
And it's all preference.

I know I prioritize appearance over other facets partially because I don't play with my figures.
The same could be said about my like for screen accuracy;
A figure with a random vehicle alt mode, randomly painted red, black and white won't be Sideswipe to me just because that's what's printed on the box and instructions.
Sometimes I almost wish I had no regard for the characters' screen appearances... I'm sure I'd like way more figures in that case.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104297)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 12th, 2021 @ 5:04pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:I still don't understand why people hate faux parts when they end up looking so much better...
In this case, if they used the dino jaw, it would look like a baby bib on his bot mode.


It's a choice between two evils really: aesthetically pleasing faux parts with the original parts turned into useless kibble, or grant all pieces a nice place with proportions all over the place. Either way, you can't please everyone with either choice. :evil:


I obviously get what you're saying.
And it's all preference.

I know I prioritize appearance over other facets partially because I don't play with my figures.
The same could be said about my like for screen accuracy;
A figure with a random vehicle alt mode, randomly painted red, black and white won't be Sideswipe to me just because that's what's printed on the box and instructions.
Sometimes I almost wish I had no regard for the characters' screen appearances... I'm sure I'd like way more figures in that case.


Nothing wrong with any of that, that's one way we roll. :)
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104307)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2021 @ 7:07pm CDT
The only time I take issue with faux parts is when the real parts and the faux parts are in-your-face visible at the same time. For a faux-part to work, the real one must "disappear". Fortunately, this is what happen most of the time.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104314)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 12th, 2021 @ 9:26pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:The only time I take issue with faux parts is when the real parts and the faux parts are in-your-face visible at the same time. For a faux-part to work, the real one must "disappear". Fortunately, this is what happen most of the time.


I'm sure there are examples, but how and/or why would a "real" part still be visible if a faux part is incorporated??

Also, I completely agree with you, but there are still people who complain and hate faux parts even when the real part is 100% hidden.
I just wish those people would understand that clearly appearance is at least a slightly more important priority than "engineering perfection". Which is why faux parts exist and designers decide it's a "good idea". Designers aren't going for what they feel is the least accepted, or will appeal to the least amount of consumers. Period.
I'll also add this:
people are willing to have a figure look wonky and/or disproportionate just so only real parts are used...
When part of the point of these toys is that the bot mode should look completely different from the alt mode... Ya know, the whole "Robots in disguise" thing...
Faux parts that change the "real" proportions from alt modes helps create this illusion
(which I believe is known as size/scale-shifting?).
The vibe is that these people feel "cheated"... And in the grand scheme, even relatively speaking considering these are toys, seems really silly to me.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104315)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on May 12th, 2021 @ 9:44pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:The only time I take issue with faux parts is when the real parts and the faux parts are in-your-face visible at the same time. For a faux-part to work, the real one must "disappear". Fortunately, this is what happen most of the time.


I'm sure there are examples, but how and/or why would a "real" part still be visible if a faux part is incorporated??



Best example on top of my head is Prime Ratchet.

The ambulance doors clearly make his chest while they are still there, huge on his legs.

Image

This still irk me.

Another faux part that I really find dumb are faux vehicle kibbles that are the same shape and size as the real ones. Like, really?
Best example, Prime 1st Ed. Bulkhead. Look at his feet. That fake wheel on the inside...
And it's even worse on the normal version.

Image

Maybe that was mainly a Prime thing?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104408)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on May 13th, 2021 @ 9:21pm CDT
Prime and the High Moon games' toys were ripe with Faux parts. Nearly every figure had at least two fake wheels or windows.

An example of a good Faux part is 86 Hot Rod. While I really don't like faux parts, his is the best execution. Between Robot and Alt, his chest rotates from real to faux. Effectively they feel like the same part and the real part is tucked away inside his body. Another example would be K Dinobot, whose faux parts combine with the real dino head to beef it up.

Slug's faux jaw feels unnecessary to me, but at least it isn't obviously replicating the jaw (if someone didn't know what G1 Slug looked like, they'd think it's just a random robo panel).
I'm hoping Hasbro doesn't go the Takara MP route of Faux parts, because at that point you might as well just have two non-transforming figures.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104420)
Posted by sol magnus on May 14th, 2021 @ 8:01am CDT
We all have different opinions on the use of faux parts. I know some people simply just don't like them and demand that the designers make the figures transform just like they did on the show and look just like they did on the show, but in many (most? All?) cases, it's simply not possible for the characters where it's needed. Faux parts are a necessary evil of screen accuracy, which skews heavily in favor of the robot mode.

If they made a toy that wasn't based on an on screen appearance that had faux parts, I'd hate it. Nowadays, the characters seem to be designed with the toys/shows in tandem so there's no need for them.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104499)
Posted by LinaNui on May 15th, 2021 @ 2:11pm CDT
I got an upgrade kit for SS86 Grimlock from eBay recently. This kit has a sword, posable hands, and adapters for holding the gun. I am so glad I got this as it really helps to finish off this figure. Honestly, I don't ever need another G1 Grimlock again, this one is perfect. (I say that now well knowing that I will buy the future versions of him because I am a sucker for them) The sword and hands have molded while the adapters are 3D printed. Hopefully this company makes kits like this for the rest of the dinobots.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104501)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 15th, 2021 @ 3:11pm CDT
LinaNui wrote:I got an upgrade kit for SS86 Grimlock from eBay recently. This kit has a sword, posable hands, and adapters for holding the gun. I am so glad I got this as it really helps to finish off this figure. Honestly, I don't ever need another G1 Grimlock again, this one is perfect. (I say that now well knowing that I will buy the future versions of him because I am a sucker for them) The sword and hands have molded while the adapters are 3D printed. Hopefully this company makes kits like this for the rest of the dinobots.


The sword looks pretty good, but those articulated hands are really nice!!
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104502)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 15th, 2021 @ 3:38pm CDT
Grimlock must annoy the hell out of Hasbro:

Fans: we want cartoon accuracy above all else!
Hasbro: Fine! Here's a cartoon accurate Grimlock! Stop pestering us!
Fans: ...where's his sword? C'mon! Where's his sword!
Hasbro: What?
Fans: the sword that's synonymous with Grimlock! His toys have it, his other cartoon appearance has it (Animated) and the comics have it!
Hasbro: but you want cartoon accuracy?
Fans:...and?
Hasbro: he didn't use it in the movie! Or the cartoon!
Fans:...and? We want his sword!
*Hasbro gives up*
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104503)
Posted by Overcracker on May 15th, 2021 @ 3:42pm CDT
LinaNui wrote:I got an upgrade kit for SS86 Grimlock from eBay recently. This kit has a sword, posable hands, and adapters for holding the gun. I am so glad I got this as it really helps to finish off this figure. Honestly, I don't ever need another G1 Grimlock again, this one is perfect. (I say that now well knowing that I will buy the future versions of him because I am a sucker for them) The sword and hands have molded while the adapters are 3D printed. Hopefully this company makes kits like this for the rest of the dinobots.


Wow, those hands look great.

Got a link for the kit?
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104504)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 15th, 2021 @ 3:57pm CDT
The sword looks based on MP Grimlock's sword.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104510)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on May 15th, 2021 @ 4:25pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Grimlock must annoy the hell out of Hasbro:

Fans: we want cartoon accuracy above all else!
Hasbro: Fine! Here's a cartoon accurate Grimlock! Stop pestering us!
Fans: ...where's his sword? C'mon! Where's his sword!
Hasbro: What?
Fans: the sword that's synonymous with Grimlock! His toys have it, his other cartoon appearance has it (Animated) and the comics have it!
Hasbro: but you want cartoon accuracy?
Fans:...and?
Hasbro: he didn't use it in the movie! Or the cartoon!
Fans:...and? We want his sword!
*Hasbro gives up*


Or it could go something like this:

Fans: We are finally getting a cartoon accurate Grimlock!
Hasbro: Enjoy! Oh and here's a bonus Wheelie figure!!!!
Fans: That's cool, but a sword would've been more appreciated.
Hasbro: Well, the sword wasn't ever in the movie, but Wheelie was... Anyway, thanks for your $50!!!!

I can't argue that Hastak is probably listening to fans/collectors more these days than in the past...
But at this point, I don't see them being "annoyed"... They're getting our money.
And if they want more, they could release a weapons pack (which is sure to be overpriced) and get more of our money.
They can deal with a small chirp of complaints as they sit back and watch their profits roll in.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104535)
Posted by LinaNui on May 15th, 2021 @ 8:33pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Wow, those hands look great.

Got a link for the kit?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F164744479277%3Fvar%3D464259325854%26

I got them from there for $12. Looks like the price went up. I have ordered multiple times from this seller and have had nothing but good from them. Highly recommended.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104539)
Posted by Overcracker on May 15th, 2021 @ 8:59pm CDT
LinaNui wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Wow, those hands look great.

Got a link for the kit?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F164744479277%3Fvar%3D464259325854%26

I got them from there for $12. Looks like the price went up. I have ordered multiple times from this seller and have had nothing but good from them. Highly recommended.


Thanks. I'll check them out.
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104548)
Posted by Emerje on May 15th, 2021 @ 11:51pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Wow, those hands look great.

Got a link for the kit?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F164744479277%3Fvar%3D464259325854%26

I got them from there for $12. Looks like the price went up. I have ordered multiple times from this seller and have had nothing but good from them. Highly recommended.


Thanks. I'll check them out.

There's about a dozen sellers out of China selling it on eBay and they all use SpeedPak and Orange Connex for shipping so they're basically all the same. Just go with whoever is cheapest. I got that set and the filler set for the arms and feet from a different seller, but haven't installed them yet.

Emerje
Re: New Video Review of Transformers Studio Series 86 Leader Class Slag (2104598)
Posted by Overcracker on May 16th, 2021 @ 2:11pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
Overcracker wrote:
LinaNui wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Wow, those hands look great.

Got a link for the kit?


https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F164744479277%3Fvar%3D464259325854%26

I got them from there for $12. Looks like the price went up. I have ordered multiple times from this seller and have had nothing but good from them. Highly recommended.


Thanks. I'll check them out.

There's about a dozen sellers out of China selling it on eBay and they all use SpeedPak and Orange Connex for shipping so they're basically all the same. Just go with whoever is cheapest. I got that set and the filler set for the arms and feet from a different seller, but haven't installed them yet.

Emerje


Thanks, yeah ordered the hands, sword and the light up head from a seller with 99.9% positive reviews. It's gonna take a while to get here though.

Will update when they arrive

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