New Video Reviews of Transformers Earthrise Deluxe Class Smokescreen and Decepticon Clones Two-Pack

So the headlights will be blacked out on Smokey. Wonderful.

The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

I'd imagine it'd be when Ratchet would be announced, otherwise our first look at a new mould would be part of an exclusive set.

So glad they fixed the feet issue with Smokescreen. My biggest gripe with the Siege mold was that the feet didn't seem to lock in place, they kept slipping back into alt mode position. Hopefully there's some truth to those Earthrise Prowl rumors, cause I'm definitely going to upgrade.

The more I look at the ER datsun mold, the more it grows on me. It's starting to go from a pass to a maybe.

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

I could never remember who we have listings for and who we don't. Hopefully Hasbro will fully announce a lot of them at SDCC online.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

We use "rumor" to indicate anything Hasbro hasn't come out and confirmed themselves.

sol magnus wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

We use "rumor" to indicate anything Hasbro hasn't come out and confirmed themselves.

Ah, fair enough.

What if earthrise Ironhide is the G2 version? and is there anything that G2 iron hide could be repainted into for selects...

This would give studio series the movie Ironhide.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

We use "rumor" to indicate anything Hasbro hasn't come out and confirmed themselves.

Ah, fair enough.

Also it has happened that we had listings and even real id numbers and the toys were never revealed and never released. Like T30 Gnaw and Brawn.

william-james88 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

We use "rumor" to indicate anything Hasbro hasn't come out and confirmed themselves.

Ah, fair enough.

Also it has happened that we had listings and even real id numbers and the toys were never revealed and never released. Like T30 Gnaw and Brawn.

Along with TR Optimus Primal and Toraizer (though, I guess those were confirmed to exist at some point, but got cancelled).

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

Wait, Bluestreak is allegedly going to get a full case to himself?

Tuned Agent wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

Wait, Bluestreak is allegedly going to get a full case to himself?

Yep, meaning he's probably an exclusive. A lot of people are guessing he'll be the Walgreens exclusive.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

Wait, Bluestreak is allegedly going to get a full case to himself?

Yep, meaning he's probably an exclusive. A lot of people are guessing he'll be the Walgreens exclusive.

Huh, that makes sense. At least that means he'll be relatively easy to find (in the US anyway).

Greetings Seibertronians! Fellow Seibertron user, -WonkoTheSane-, has let us now that a timer has appeared on Walmart.com. The timer is apparently counting down to Walmart Collector Con, when they are set to announce 70 exclusive collectibles. Transformers War for Cybertron is one of the brands advertised as taking part in the event, meaning we could be looking at more Walmart exclusive Transformers in top of ones already like Re-issue G1 Blaster, Re-issue G1 Astrotrain and Transformers 35th Anniversary Cel Shaded Megatron.



This comes after Walmart.com listed the limited edition Back to the Future x Transformers crossover toy, Gigawatt, which sold out before many could even get their hands on it, yet saw eBay flooded with preorders at excruciating high prices.

What exclusives do you think we'll see this coming Friday? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews!

After the whole Gigawatt debacle, I’m not entirely enthused by this. I’m almost certain that these will be the rumored second wave of Netflix figures. If that’s the case (which I hope it is) then I think I’ll be good. Just tired of exclusives, especially those from Walmart.

New Netflix figures calling it now.

In the beginning, it was hard to find the Netflix figures. But in the months since I've seen endcaps at all three of my usual Walmarts with tons of Earthrise, Cyberverse, and Netflix figures. It took a while once the reports of the endcaps appearing before I saw them, but once I did, they were stocked full and kept that way for a few weekends. I've had more problems with Target stocking their shelves than I have with Walmart. So if it is new Netflix figures, I know to be patient, and they will eventually appear.

At least they give us a timer this time, so we know exactly supposedly when they will be available. If its more Netflix, that's ok, hopefully they will be in stores. Hopefully they won't do any more with Battle Master repaints, I don't think my wallet could handle it.

Mindmaster wrote:Just tired of exclusives, especially those from Walmart.

Agreed. I wish exclusives didn't have to be a thing period. I remember when Toys R Us was still a thing, Trying to find any of their exclusives (Mainly the MPs) was a complete nightmare. I remember there were only two stores near me, And each of them were at least an hour away (From me, Even further from each other)
I couldn't even call on the phone to see what they did or didn't have, As the staff, (most of them anyway) Weren't any much help at all. In my experience so far with Walmart's TF exclusives, I've found them to be a lot better then Toys R Us, But I guess your mileage may vary.

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Just tired of exclusives, especially those from Walmart.

Agreed. I wish exclusives didn't have to be a thing period. I remember when Toys R Us was still a thing, Trying to find any of their exclusives (Mainly the MPs) was a complete nightmare. I remember there were only two stores near me, And each of them were at least an hour away (From me, Even further from each other)
I couldn't even call on the phone to see what they did or didn't have, As the staff, (most of them anyway) Weren't any much help at all. In my experience so far with Walmart's TF exclusives, I've found them to be a lot better then Toys R Us, But I guess your mileage may vary.

Back home in Wilmington, NC, there was one TRU before it shut down. My experience with them went both ways; sometimes they had what I was looking for with friendly staff, the other times the pegs would be bare and I’d have to deal with cranky staff. My luck with Walmart exclusives have been pretty decent, especially after having moved to El Paso, TX due to military service. I’ve been able to secure myself the Netflix Voyagers, Bluestreak, and Soundblaster fairly easily, but what I fear with these reveals is what happened with the first, numbered run of Gigawatt. Granted, these reveals will probably be way more in number so that scalping won’t be that huge a deal, but my trust in Walmart and their exclusives been shaken thanks to the whole Gigawatt debacle.

My only concern with Walmart is they still haven't mailed out the first series of Netflix exclusives (aside from Ultra Magnus), they keep pushing the release back (now it's August). I'm worried that they're going to just cancel the order, probably right after they vanish from the shelves. At this point I should probably buy what I can in stores and get a refund on my already paid for order as I go.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:My only concern with Walmart is they still haven't mailed out the first series of Netflix exclusives (aside from Ultra Magnus), they keep pushing the release back (now it's August). I'm worried that they're going to just cancel the order, probably right after they vanish from the shelves. At this point I should probably buy what I can in stores and get a refund on my already paid for order as I go.

Emerje

Did they already charge you? I had Decepticon Mirage pre-ordered and once it got pushed back I took a chance on checking in-store. Two weekends later I found him and canceled the pre-order. No refund necessary because I hadn't been charged.

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Just tired of exclusives, especially those from Walmart.

Agreed. I wish exclusives didn't have to be a thing period. I remember when Toys R Us was still a thing, Trying to find any of their exclusives (Mainly the MPs) was a complete nightmare. I remember there were only two stores near me, And each of them were at least an hour away (From me, Even further from each other)
I couldn't even call on the phone to see what they did or didn't have, As the staff, (most of them anyway) Weren't any much help at all. In my experience so far with Walmart's TF exclusives, I've found them to be a lot better then Toys R Us, But I guess your mileage may vary.

In some ways I miss TRU, although you're absolutely right about finding the exclusives; it was so hit or miss... And the couple stores closest to me were usually misses.
But TRU in general reminds me of when solid deluxe class figures were roughly $9 each, and they would periodically have sales where you could buy 2 get 1 free... I mean 3 deluxe figures for just over $20!
Maybe that's stuck with me too much... Which is why it's so easy to pass on a $21 Cliffjumper, or any other figure I'm not impressed with.

Speaking of unimpressed, even though Smokescreen was one of my favorite Autobots, I just don't see the need and am happy with my CHUG version... The hollow lower legs are definitely not great, but it's not even those. And I like the head sculpt. But this is another $20 that will go towards MP Starscream (if he looks great). And there's no way I'll get that Arcee.
Now the Allicon looks pretty cool imo, but even that will probably be a game time decision when I see him in person.

Also, there have been a decent number of the Netflix figures at my local Walmart... Haven't been there for roughly a week and a half, but last time they still had roughly 10.
I hope nobody gets screwed out of their pre-order!

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-WonkoTheSane- wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:Just tired of exclusives, especially those from Walmart.

Agreed. I wish exclusives didn't have to be a thing period. I remember when Toys R Us was still a thing, Trying to find any of their exclusives (Mainly the MPs) was a complete nightmare. I remember there were only two stores near me, And each of them were at least an hour away (From me, Even further from each other)
I couldn't even call on the phone to see what they did or didn't have, As the staff, (most of them anyway) Weren't any much help at all. In my experience so far with Walmart's TF exclusives, I've found them to be a lot better then Toys R Us, But I guess your mileage may vary.

But TRU in general reminds me of when solid deluxe class figures were roughly $9 each, and they would periodically have sales where you could buy 2 get 1 free... I mean 3 deluxe figures for just over $20!

Man! I remember that! Heh. This makes me feel old...

Here's the thing about those $9 deluxes (Which I remember as well): Money has become worth less on the primary market while at the same time production costs have increased... It's been gradually worsening since 2011. The 2014 Movie Advanced rerelease of Battle Blade Bumblebee had to be sold as a Voyager... That should tell you something.

There's also the fact that extra things like extensive paintjobs (such as SIEGE Sideswipe's painting parts red - including some that were already red plastic - for the sake of color uniformity) cost too.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Here's the thing about those $9 deluxes (Which I remember as well): Money has become worth less on the primary market while at the same time production costs have increased... It's been gradually worsening since 2011. The 2014 Movie Advanced rerelease of Battle Blade Bumblebee had to be sold as a Voyager... That should tell you something.

There's also the fact that extra things like extensive paintjobs (such as SIEGE Sideswipe's painting parts red - including some that were already red plastic - for the sake of color uniformity) cost too.

It all makes sense, obviously I've seen the change in years past.
But it also makes it way easier for me to pass on a lot of figures.
As much as I want something like a new and improved Cliffjumper in my collection, it's not even the money that truly turns me away... It's the cost on top of the fact that I don't like the look of a lot of these figures.
I mean, it won't be an insta-purchase if MP Starscream ends up being $400... In fact, I hate thinking he'll be that much (especially considering if I like him, I'll want some other new mold MP seekers).
But if I see a figure I really like, I'll most likely get it.
If SS Leader Slag costs $70 but I love the look of him, I'll bite, even though I don't care at all about the Daniel I'm also paying for.
So it's unfortunate that production costs have gone up, but we're still seeing things like hollow lower legs, or half legs on a figure like Runamuck...
And I get it; everything has to fit within an allocated budget.
Just a bummer that it seems like we're not really getting what we're paying for these days (imo).

Honestly I’m perfectly happy with my Power of the Primes Dinobots, so unless they do the whole set of Dinobots (Grimlock was rumored before), and if Slag is the right size to me, I’ll get him and stick him with my Masterpieces as a stand in alongside MP Grimlock. But again, has to be right size (basically taller than the Autobot Cars, I can make do with him and potential Dinobot additions being shorter than Optimus).

aronjlove wrote:

Emerje wrote:My only concern with Walmart is they still haven't mailed out the first series of Netflix exclusives (aside from Ultra Magnus), they keep pushing the release back (now it's August). I'm worried that they're going to just cancel the order, probably right after they vanish from the shelves. At this point I should probably buy what I can in stores and get a refund on my already paid for order as I go.

Emerje

Did they already charge you? I had Decepticon Mirage pre-ordered and once it got pushed back I took a chance on checking in-store. Two weekends later I found him and canceled the pre-order. No refund necessary because I hadn't been charged.

Yeah, but I used PayPal so maybe that was the difference maker. I ordered the day they went live, but they weren't all listed yet so I ordered what was available first (four of the five Deluxes and nothing else if I remember right), but then cancelled that when they were all available and got everything in one order. I got a refund on the canceled order and charged again for the second order. Others have mentioned already paying for them as well so it seems to be a PayPal thing.

Emerje

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

sol magnus wrote:The gray guns with Smokescreen point to a Bluestreak or Prowl for sure.

Well we do have plenty of rumours that Prowl is coming in a two pack with an Earth mode Ironhide.

Of which I eagerly await confirmation.

The Prowl/Ironhide two-pack isn't a rumor, it's a straight-up listing on multiple of the European Amazon sites, and Bluestreak as some kind of exclusive that would get a full case all to himself was also a leaked listing in a store database. These are beyond rumors at this point.

We use "rumor" to indicate anything Hasbro hasn't come out and confirmed themselves.

Ah, fair enough.

Also it has happened that we had listings and even real id numbers and the toys were never revealed and never released. Like T30 Gnaw and Brawn.

Along with TR Optimus Primal and Toraizer (though, I guess those were confirmed to exist at some point, but got cancelled).

Honestly, I wish they would have done Silverstreak in a two pack with Earthmode Ratchet, but since that isn't happening would it be possible Rachst would yet again be a Walgreens exclusive?

And also an off topic question Autobot N....how sturdy is that throne that comes with Optimal Optimus? I want to get one because I need the last 4 Primes...

Actually I could see Ratchet getting a retail release just because Ironhide is the exclusive this time round.

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually I could see Ratchet getting a retail release just because Ironhide is the exclusive this time round.

For like the third time, Ratchet is supposedly getting a Selects release, according to the same source as the list of leaks that had Exhaust, Greasepit, Hubcap, Thrust, etc, and a tag was found by I believe a TRU Canada employee that claimed a Gen Selects Leader "Ratch" is coming, so something's up with Ratchet, we just don't know what. Maybe it's Ratchet with a bunch of accessories or something, maybe it's a two-pack, maybe the tag just has the wrong size class or name, or maybe Hasbro is renaming CD Red Alert to be some form of Ratchet.

NTESHFT wrote:And also an off topic question Autobot N....how sturdy is that throne that comes with Optimal Optimus? I want to get one because I need the last 4 Primes...

I have one too, and it's OK. it is cardboard, so it does bend some, but it has held for me for 2 years no problem with leader Primal on it

NTESHFT wrote:And also an off topic question Autobot N....how sturdy is that throne that comes with Optimal Optimus? I want to get one because I need the last 4 Primes...

I've had it in storage for a while (can't find a good place for it), but I don't recall having any stability issues with it while it was out. It supported Shockwave just fine while he was on there.


It's a pretty great set, so I'd get it if you can find it for a good price. My Throne Primal was a lot less loose than my retail Primal.


Back on topic, I wonder what'll be in ER wave 4? Weird that we haven't got any retailer listings for that yet.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

NTESHFT wrote:And also an off topic question Autobot N....how sturdy is that throne that comes with Optimal Optimus? I want to get one because I need the last 4 Primes...

I have one too, and it's OK. it is cardboard, so it does bend some, but it has held for me for 2 years no problem with leader Primal on it

Don't go putting a Unicron Trilogy Leader on it though.

Autobot N wrote:Back on topic, I wonder what'll be in ER wave 4? Weird that we haven't got any retailer listings for that yet.

I imagine at least a few unrevealed figures from the Netflix range that popped up in that recent leak will also be part of Wave 4. Deluxe Bumblebee is inevitable, and I could also see Elita-1 based on her design in the show getting in there, perhaps even an Earth mode Barricade from the Smokescreen mould, or more types of Quintesson.
The Soundwave and Cyclonus we saw a while back could make up the Voyagers (unless Cyclonus is in the 1986 movie portion of Studio Series like many have speculated), or they could get a head start on the Coneheads by having Thrust at the end of Earthrise and the other two in Part 3. And if that Soundwave is for Earthrise I have my fingers crossed for a re-issue or even repaints of Micromaster Laserbeak and Ravage, just so I don't have to pay scalper prices for them on Ebay. I would also say Inferno from the Voyager Grapple mould, but that's supposedly not coming until Part 3.

The cone heads are already accounted for as we have a tag for Thrust and a listing for the other two in an exclusive double pack

Nemesis Primal wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually I could see Ratchet getting a retail release just because Ironhide is the exclusive this time round.

For like the third time, Ratchet is supposedly getting a Selects release, according to the same source as the list of leaks that had Exhaust, Greasepit, Hubcap, Thrust, etc, and a tag was found by I believe a TRU Canada employee that claimed a Gen Selects Leader "Ratch" is coming, so something's up with Ratchet, we just don't know what. Maybe it's Ratchet with a bunch of accessories or something, maybe it's a two-pack, maybe the tag just has the wrong size class or name, or maybe Hasbro is renaming CD Red Alert to be some form of Ratchet.

I did a little research and there have been two leaks that I could find mention Selects Ratchet. The first is from someone that claims to be the nephew of a person with a dealer license, everything they listed we had heard about from the Canada TRU leak and elsewhere except for Ratchet (size class wasn't given), same list called SS Skipjack "Skipjim" so accuracy is questionable. The second was from GotBot who mentioned "Leader Ratch" at the end of one of his YouTube videos, but he didn't give a source or store, just saying it was a listing not a rumor. Neither of these came from the person who gave the TRU CA listings or gave product codes. I'm just going to consider the listings as error until we get something more concrete.

Even if we do somehow end up with a Leader Ratchet with a boat full of extra stuff that doesn't mean we can't still get a standard retail Deluxe version as well.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I did a little research and there have been two leaks that I could find mention Selects Ratchet. The first is from someone that claims to be the nephew of a person with a dealer license, everything they listed we had heard about from the Canada TRU leak and elsewhere except for Ratchet (size class wasn't given), same list called SS Skipjack "Skipjim" so accuracy is questionable. The second was from GotBot who mentioned "Leader Ratch" at the end of one of his YouTube videos, but he didn't give a source or store, just saying it was a listing not a rumor. Neither of these came from the person who gave the TRU CA listings or gave product codes. I'm just going to consider the listings as error until we get something more concrete.

...I admit I was a bit frustrated when I wrote about this before, because I keep mentioning this and people keep ignoring it, so looking back my tone was a bit more...aggro than I meant. Thanks for taking the time to look into it and respond. I didn't realize the listing didn't come from the exact same source, I just know it had been being treated as being just as legit as Exhaust and co. by the TFW crew, since I've been lurking over there to follow leaks. If it isn't as legit as the other listings, that is good to keep in mind.

Emerje wrote:Even if we do somehow end up with a Leader Ratchet with a boat full of extra stuff that doesn't mean we can't still get a standard retail Deluxe version as well.

...technically, yes, but if it is actually a Selects release of some sort then they wouldn't have the same decos/be the same versions of the character, based on what Selects has done so far (the only character repeats being Combat Megatron and Galactic Man), and the Selects one would have to be a Shattered Glass or Movie green repaint or something. I'm honestly not expecting ER Ironhide to be anything more than a retool of the Siege one though, since it's in a 2-pack with an ER Wave 2 repaint/retool and we haven't seen an ER mold it could use yet, so Ratchet would presumably be the same thing and not necessarily need a mainline release anyway.

And if it IS a new mold AND Ratchet is a Selects, then who the heck would they release it in the mainline as? Some sort of G1-ified Cannonball or something?

...dangit now I kinda want that, stupid brain.

It's not like we don't have multiple G1 decos for Ratchet. One of the first Selects was just a color variant of Swoop after all.







That doesn't even include the crazy toy color variations. Personally I'd be happy if the retail version had the cartoon colors and the Selects version had the Marvel colors.

Emerje

Just as long as no more Ratchets wear Prowl's helmet again.

So has anyone else done the math and realized that Walmart has Walmarted themselves again on the countdown on their site? The site says the new items get dropped on 7/17 at 10:00 a.m. Eastern time, which would be 9:00 a.m. central time. Except, as of right now (10:50 a.m. central time) the countdown says 3 days, 20 hours and 10 minutes. That would have it ending at 7:00 a.m. central or 8:00 a.m. Eastern.

Oh Walmart

Has anyone here tried taking the heads off of Thundercracker and Skywarp (prefer Skywarp, want him to have the better head)? If so, how difficult was it, and how did you do it?

Autobot N wrote:Has anyone here tried taking the heads off of Thundercracker and Skywarp (prefer Skywarp, want him to have the better head)? If so, how difficult was it, and how did you do it?

Happened to have Starscream next to me when I read your post, experimented real quick. It’s kinda difficult to take off, kinda afraid I’d snap the neck joint off... unless it’s because I just have wussy fingers (which wouldn’t surprise me).

Mindmaster wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Has anyone here tried taking the heads off of Thundercracker and Skywarp (prefer Skywarp, want him to have the better head)? If so, how difficult was it, and how did you do it?

Happened to have Starscream next to me when I read your post, experimented real quick. It’s kinda difficult to take off, kinda afraid I’d snap the neck joint off... unless it’s because I just have wussy fingers (which wouldn’t surprise me).

Unfortunately, I just cut my nails, so I can't experiment for myself. Shame about Starscream, though. Skywarp's weird head is bothering me more in person than it did in the renders.

Autobot N wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Has anyone here tried taking the heads off of Thundercracker and Skywarp (prefer Skywarp, want him to have the better head)? If so, how difficult was it, and how did you do it?

Happened to have Starscream next to me when I read your post, experimented real quick. It’s kinda difficult to take off, kinda afraid I’d snap the neck joint off... unless it’s because I just have wussy fingers (which wouldn’t surprise me).

Unfortunately, I just cut my nails, so I can't experiment for myself. Shame about Starscream, though. Skywarp's weird head is bothering me more in person than it did in the renders.

It is kinda odd for Skywarp to have a different face while the other two have stoic faces. It doesn’t bother me too much because I can tell myself it plays into his pugnacious personality as the bruise of the trio.

Mindmaster wrote:It is kinda odd for Skywarp to have a different face while the other two have stoic faces. It doesn’t bother me too much because I can tell myself it plays into his pugnacious personality as the bruise of the trio.

I don't necessarily mind that part; it's partly the lack of any sort of angry expression. With the neutral eyes and gaping mouth, it just kinda looks like those weird box art stills from classics.