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The smallest Prime Masters and decoy suits include Bomb-Burst with Megatronus, Bludgeon with Quintus Prime, and Octopunch with Solus Prime; the Legends class include Tailgate (who shares the mold with Windcharger) and the Duocons Battleslash and Roadtrap, combining into Roadtrap; the Deluxes are the mold-sharing Novastar (Firestar to you and me) and Moonracer; Voyager wise we have triple changing - Elita-Infin1te combiner torso, robot and jet - Elita-1; and finally Leader with evolution gimmick for Optimus Primal and Optimal Optimus. Check them all out below, in official renders and artwork, and browse out galleries for a close look!
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Posted by Munkky on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:20pm CST
mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Posted by WreckerJack on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:23pm CST
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:26pm CST
Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a shit tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a fuck about international fans.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:44pm CST
Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:49pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?
Are we counting China? becuse they get some pretty sweet things. Asia gets the toys earlier than others (usually), and China was the only place where the first wave of Cyber Battalion figures were available at a decent price. Plus there was the GDO line, along with the Prime First Edition line which arrived almost eveywhere except for the US. That was prepetuated in the recent RID line. And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.
Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.
Posted by Rysquad on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:49pm CST
DecepticonFinishline wrote:ThunderThruster wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:I assume this means that we'll get the remaining prime masters packaged in with exclusives (repugnus, wreck gar) or they'll do a Predaking and put them in with any combiner box sets that may or may not be happening.
So does this mean inferno isn't happening? What about project storm? Seems odd to leave those things out and save them for SDCC when they'll most likely be focusing on War for Cybertron.
Whoa there, slow down those pessimistic thoughts!
First of, Inferno is still happening in Wave 3, (early) Summer. Secondly, we still have a Wave or 2 in all Classes that's unknown to us (the possible Wave 5 would be a tight squeeze, unless the WFC Trilogy is scooted up a Wave or if's released side-by-side. We can hope!). Finally, we haven't even hit Spring, let alone the half-year mark.
Project Storm is nothing more but the Authentics, as explained before.
*brings out more tissues after the images*
War for Cybertron starts in January of 2019, there are typically 4 waves in a year and Novastar is the only new figure in wave 4 as shown in the original leaks. There's no reason to believe that any new figures have yet to be revealed for potp besides exclusives.
Wave 4 of the Deluxes, but the other Classes only had 3 leaked.
Which could just mean that there are no other classes in wave 4. Much like wave 6 of Titans return.
I said it when the leak was first leaked. We're not getting anything more than what was leaked.
I think we're ALL getting a little ahead of ourselves. To my knowledge, no official source has ever said that Wave 4 will be the last of the Power of the Primes. In fact, I would say that there is no reason to believe that Novastar is the only Wave 4 figure.
We KNOW that we have to get ALL of the Prime Masters, right? Even IF Onyx ONLY comes with Predaking, (which would be unfortunate, but I can NOW see that happening) that STILL leaves four more Prime Masters. That leaves AT LEAST one more wave of Prime Masters.
Given that everything that is "officially" revealed was in that Big Leak (which didn't specify waves for Deluxes) I think they're just playing catch-up. Hasbro tries to reveal-things-without-revealing-things all the time. But, given the fallout after the PotP leak, they clearly did not intend for this leak to happen.
I think there is still a decent amount of PotPs ahead of us. Not ENOUGH, mind you... I think it probably will fizzle out the same way that Titans Return did... :/
I HAD a theory that between exclusives and box sets, we would get special editions of all Prime Masters (the likes of Blast Off) without Pretender Shells. Less confident about that, now.
But, I could be wrong. I just think we should all chill out for a sec.
I'm leaning towards box sets to complete the line.
Posted by Rysquad on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:51pm CST
william-james88 wrote:
Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.
Which retailer?
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:56pm CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?
Are we counting China? becuse they get some pretty sweet things. Asia gets the toys earlier than others (usually), and China was the only place where the first wave of Cyber Battalion figures were available at a decent price. Plus there was the GDO line, along with the Prime First Edition line which arrived almost eveywhere except for the US. That was prepetuated in the recent RID line. And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.
Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.
I'll specify the UK;:-P thought having said that im getting a memory that we may of got the CW wave one before anyone else... (well anyone in the West at least)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CST
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 4:01pm CST
Skritz wrote:I keep saying it but: Seacons would be piss-easy to make out of PotP molds except Snaptrap. If they intend to save them for later but keep the same core engineering from the Prime Wars trilogy, these guys are entirely doable by remolding the Terrorcons. Snaptrap is also doable if you massive retool the exterior of Grimlock to enable quadrupedal stance.
So who knows? Maybe if the Seacon or Monster Pretenders DO appear in later Generations line, they'd be made from at-that-point years-old molds.
God, I hope that doesn't happen, that would then make the combined mode a pile of trash, and they deserve better
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 19th, 2018 @ 4:04pm CST
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?
Are we counting China? becuse they get some pretty sweet things. Asia gets the toys earlier than others (usually), and China was the only place where the first wave of Cyber Battalion figures were available at a decent price. Plus there was the GDO line, along with the Prime First Edition line which arrived almost eveywhere except for the US. That was prepetuated in the recent RID line. And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.
Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.
Is cogman potp?
As we are here though, Cogman was around 20 dollars at Amazon Japan and at Yamada Denki in Japan, when I looked, which is probably "cheap" for my area of the woods.
Posted by Rysquad on February 19th, 2018 @ 4:10pm CST
Emerje wrote:
Roadtrap is every bit as fidgety as Legends Wheelie in vehicle mode. You get a side panel in place and the back part splits, you get that part together and half the front window pops up. Pretty frustrating even with the built in locks inside the front wheels that are supposed to keep everything together. Bot mode is alright, his legs look stumpy thanks to the windows, but standing him next to Bumblebee the leg joints are all in the same place. Annoying alt mode aside, he's OK.
My Roadtrap is nowhere near the mess/embarrassment that is Titans Return Wheelie.
Posted by Rysquad on February 19th, 2018 @ 4:11pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2018 @ 4:40pm CST
Rysquad wrote:william-james88 wrote:
Plus, I found Cogman and TR Wave 5 at retail, for about 10-12$ each while that is a faint dream for any American who will have to pay double for them.
Which retailer?
Walmart and EB Games(GameStop in Canada) had Cogman. Walmart and TRU had the TR Deluxes
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 4:42pm CST
Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
Posted by Tigertrack on February 19th, 2018 @ 5:44pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2018 @ 5:53pm CST
william-james88 wrote:And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.
And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
...and no where else outside of that land mass.
Yeah, lets not have exclusives in POTP. Availability equality for all collectors!
Posted by Rysquad on February 19th, 2018 @ 5:53pm CST
Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
Heck. Do a Generations Jetfire and Jetstorm for Safeguard or Skysledge and Stormhammer for Skyhammer.
Posted by kurthy on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:14pm CST
Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.
And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
...and no where else outside of that land mass.
Yeah, lets not have exclusives in POTP. Availability equality for all collectors!
Next time there is a U.S. exclusive, I'll pick a 2nd one up for you, burn.
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:16pm CST
Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
If they made them bigger, they could start doing Energon figures, that power-linked...
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:17pm CST
Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
I think this would be a great interpretation of micromasters, no one wants a tiny figure that turns into a tanker trailer, but two different tanker trucks with great bot modes then combining into an awesome bot, I can get behind that
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:18pm CST
kurthy wrote:Burn wrote:william-james88 wrote:And finally, countries like Canada and Australia had the Combiner Wars boxsets fond in stores while they were only available online in the US.
And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
...and no where else outside of that land mass.
Yeah, lets not have exclusives in POTP. Availability equality for all collectors!
Next time there is a U.S. exclusive, I'll pick a 2nd one up for you, burn.
Thanks mate, but I've had others offer to do the same, but the postage, combined with a crappy dollar conversion rate ends up making them VERY expensive exclusives which I simply can't justify.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:20pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
If they made them bigger, they could start doing Energon figures, that power-linked...
I think keeping them small helps make the imperfections less egregious, but that's just me, larger figures - I think - would mean more of an attempt to add kibble, which means more kibble to store in combined mode, I think scout class is where it's at, and that's my reasoning
Posted by primalxconvoy on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:23pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
I think this would be a great interpretation of micromasters, no one wants a tiny figure that turns into a tanker trailer, but two different tanker trucks with great bot modes then combining into an awesome bot, I can get behind that
There were also the Japanese "Multiforce", which were similar to the current POTP Duocons:
- http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiforce
Posted by Tigertrack on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:26pm CST
primalxconvoy wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
I think this would be a great interpretation of micromasters, no one wants a tiny figure that turns into a tanker trailer, but two different tanker trucks with great bot modes then combining into an awesome bot, I can get behind that
There were also the Japanese "Multiforce", which were similar to the current POTP Duocons:
- http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiforce
I'm down with that...
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:31pm CST
Tigertrack wrote:primalxconvoy wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Tigertrack wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
Sweet
Once again, legends class proving itself to be our savior once more
They should do a subline of this new style of duo-con, think that would go a long way, especially if they were interchangeable with each other, kind of like a neo-energon, only the lines gimmick would be 'not being crap'
It would be awesome if they matched up with micromaster combiners somehow. Like an oil truck splits into two halves with individual robot modes and then can combine into a third larger robot.
Or they could do the entire Landcross set.
I know that's G1 related, but the ideas doesn't have to be G1, just some ideas to try to entice these G1-centric creators to do more of them.
...And of course, Flywheels...with huge freakin feet...
I think this would be a great interpretation of micromasters, no one wants a tiny figure that turns into a tanker trailer, but two different tanker trucks with great bot modes then combining into an awesome bot, I can get behind that
There were also the Japanese "Multiforce", which were similar to the current POTP Duocons:
- http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Multiforce
I'm down with that...
I think it would be cool to get a cw liokaiser retool, with elita 1 (cuz the jet mode finally works - and as there's no fiction surrounding them, I'm fine with making the leader a female) as the new leader, a new combiner head, and retooled limbs... (dat tank with arms tho)
Posted by Emerje on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:35pm CST
We know the real version will look like this:
No black outline, probably no yellow paint, and it looks like his arms will be black if the art is accurate.
Rysquad wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:For anyone that has battletrap, does the combined mode have knee articulation?
Sure does.
And they're normal knees hidden behind armor, not weird mid-thigh knees like it appears in some photos.
Skritz wrote:So who knows? Maybe if the Seacon or Monster Pretenders DO appear in later Generations line, they'd be made from at-that-point years-old molds.
The age of the molds doesn't seem to bother Hasbro that much. They did go back to the 2015 Air Raid/Skydive mold for Dreadwind and Blackwing in 2018 after all. I'll be surprised if they don't have plans to visit some PotP molds again by the end of 2021.
primalxconvoy wrote:
Prime Masters suits have small handles on the weapon parts so they can hold them themselves. That's all Bludgeon and Octopunch are doing, though they're taking the same liberties with Bludgeon's weapon as they did with Optimus Primal's swords.
Emerje
Posted by Rated X on February 19th, 2018 @ 6:37pm CST
Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Blame the retailers for not carrying the toys in your countries in mass quanities. Blame your government for using import taxes for profit making. Blame the local culture in your countries for not attracting enough fans to make toy sales profitable. But dont blame Hasbro. Their job is to make the toys and they are doing their job. Its not Hasbros fault if your countries make the hobby difficult.
Posted by CJPrime931 on February 19th, 2018 @ 7:40pm CST
For months, I've been trying to look for Overlord, but he's not in stores. Nor is he on Amazon. I also want to get Blitzwing, but the price for him is just ridiculous! He's about up to nearly £80!
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2018 @ 7:43pm CST
Rated X wrote:Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Blame the retailers for not carrying the toys in your countries in mass quanities. Blame your government for using import taxes for profit making. Blame the local culture in your countries for not attracting enough fans to make toy sales profitable. But dont blame Hasbro. Their job is to make the toys and they are doing their job. Its not Hasbros fault if your countries make the hobby difficult.
Don't blame Hasbro, coming from YOU of all people, that is fucking hilarious.
As for the rest, yeah, okay mate. You know jack and shit about Australia so shoosh. Given your constant criticism of Hasbro, the fact you would come up with a defense for them like that is clear indication you've taken up a new career in comedy. Best of luck with it!
Posted by Acesmcgee on February 19th, 2018 @ 8:49pm CST
Posted by Targetmaster Kup on February 19th, 2018 @ 8:56pm CST
CJPrime931 wrote:As much as I'm looking forward to these figures, I'm also trying to brace myself for disappointment because ever since the Beast Hunters line in 2013, most of the figures haven't shown up anywhere in my area. I had to look up Amazon to find the figures I'm looking for.
For months, I've been trying to look for Overlord, but he's not in stores. Nor is he on Amazon. I also want to get Blitzwing, but the price for him is just ridiculous! He's about up to nearly £80!
I'm selling my Blitzwing on eBay. Right now it is only $15.50 at https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 2500981866
Posted by Rated X on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:07pm CST
Burn wrote:Rated X wrote:Burn wrote:Munkky wrote:mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.
This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.
Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.
It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.
Blame the retailers for not carrying the toys in your countries in mass quanities. Blame your government for using import taxes for profit making. Blame the local culture in your countries for not attracting enough fans to make toy sales profitable. But dont blame Hasbro. Their job is to make the toys and they are doing their job. Its not Hasbros fault if your countries make the hobby difficult.
Don't blame Hasbro, coming from YOU of all people, that is **** hilarious.
As for the rest, yeah, okay mate. You know jack and **** about Australia so shoosh. Given your constant criticism of Hasbro, the fact you would come up with a defense for them like that is clear indication you've taken up a new career in comedy. Best of luck with it!
Dude its not about defending Hasbro. Its about calling you out on a statement you made thats total bullshit...the same way you would do me.
Hasbro will ship out as many pallets of transformers as your TRU management is willing to buy. Its not Hasbros fault if TRU Australia doesnt want to invest in the franchise. Obviously people down under arent digging transformers enough. How the hell is that Hasbros fault? Its up to you guts to make the hobby a success or a failure. Create more fans that will buy more toys and the retailers will invest. Its that f**king simple.
On to the extreme price gouging. Obviously living on an island has a downside that effects the cost of "importing". But then again. the toys are all made in Asia (even takara versions) Does Japan have a problem getting shipments of transformers from China? Not really. So thats your government making it hard on imports from China...not Hasbro.
Import customs taxes on ebay purchases....something im so glad we dont have to deal with in the united states. But once again, thats your governments fault, not Hasbros.
Last but not least, culture differences. If nobody wants to be a fan why should TRU stock the shelves or work out deals to bring down prices? Get more fans willing to buy or deal with obscurity. Its like me complaining that no pet shop in Miami wants to sell f**kin wallabies as pets. Your an online news guy. Stop complaining and get a shit load of Austrailian fans to sign a petition and deliver it to TRU Australias headquarters. Try and write to corporate. Do something...
Posted by BombshellDaBug on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:09pm CST
Emerje wrote:Just to put people at ease about Onyx Prime being only available with Predaking, the box pretty clearly states it's a special edition, sort of like the Megatronus that comes with May Mayhem Blast Off.
We know the real version will look like this:
No black outline, probably no yellow paint, and it looks like his arms will be black if the art is accurate.
Emerje
THANK YOU! I've been watching this POTP thread for a while now, and it seems like this is one of those details that most people seem to have missed. I'm not sure where this notion that we're not getting a general retail Onyx Prime came from, but it's really bizarre.
Actually, scratch that. Seems to me like it's been going hand-in-hand with the rumor that POTP is ending with Wave 4 (aka just Novastar). As someone in the thread mentioned earlier, we're basing a LOT of POTP speculation purely off of one leak that Hasbro clearly didn't intend on having to ever deal with. It seems to me that revealing all of the leaked toys is an attempt at damage control. I'd say it's possible that we're seeing toys that weren't supposed to be revealed until much later, Novastar and the Wave 3 Prime Masters being possible examples. I also don't seem to recall Toy Fair EVER being where Hasbro revealed everything they had in store for a toyline. Usually they save later reveals for other conventions.
There's also the fact that we still have three Prime Masters who need toys, those being Nexus Prime, Amalgamous Prime, and Prima. All three of them have had cards showcasing their powers attached to other toys. Hell, I got a Nexus Skrapnel card packaged with my Legends Skrapnel toy. I don't see why Hasbro would have made that card if there was no intention on making the Prime Master to correspond with it. It simply does not add up, unless plans for the line changed at the VERY last minute. While it's possible this could have happened, that is such an eleventh hour change to make, and one that would likely be very costly to do.
I'm sorry if this rant comes across as hostile as it was not my intention to be hostile, but I'm starting to get rather annoyed at some of the massive assumptions being made in this thread.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:15pm CST
BombshellDaBug wrote:Emerje wrote:Just to put people at ease about Onyx Prime being only available with Predaking, the box pretty clearly states it's a special edition, sort of like the Megatronus that comes with May Mayhem Blast Off.
We know the real version will look like this:
No black outline, probably no yellow paint, and it looks like his arms will be black if the art is accurate.
Emerje
THANK YOU! I've been watching this POTP thread for a while now, and it seems like this is one of those details that most people seem to have missed. I'm not sure where this notion that we're not getting a general retail Onyx Prime came from, but it's really bizarre.
Actually, scratch that. Seems to me like it's been going hand-in-hand with the rumor that POTP is ending with Wave 4 (aka just Novastar). As someone in the thread mentioned earlier, we're basing a LOT of POTP speculation purely off of one leak that Hasbro clearly didn't intend on having to ever deal with. It seems to me that revealing all of the leaked toys is an attempt at damage control. I'd say it's possible that we're seeing toys that weren't supposed to be revealed until much later, Novastar and the Wave 3 Prime Masters being possible examples. I also don't seem to recall Toy Fair EVER being where Hasbro revealed everything they had in store for a toyline. Usually they save later reveals for other conventions.
There's also the fact that we still have three Prime Masters who need toys, those being Nexus Prime, Amalgamous Prime, and Prima. All three of them have had cards showcasing their powers attached to other toys. Hell, I got a Nexus Skrapnel card packaged with my Legends Skrapnel toy. I don't see why Hasbro would have made that card if there was no intention on making the Prime Master to correspond with it. It simply does not add up, unless plans for the line changed at the VERY last minute. While it's possible this could have happened, that is such an eleventh hour change to make, and one that would likely be very costly to do.
I'm sorry if this rant comes across as hostile as it was not my intention to be hostile, but I'm starting to get rather annoyed at some of the massive assumptions being made in this thread.
That's not exactly accurate, we've had toy fairs where they 'reveal' stuff that's out already, it doesn't usually go over well. Wave 3 had to be partially revealed as wave 2 is apparently chilling out in spades here in the state's (though I have to see any of them...) so revealing figures that have video reviews all over the internet, not really a great idea
Posted by Autobot N on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:18pm CST
Not quite. While on vacation, I found a few Chaos on Velocitron sets at a Toysrus somewhere between Mississippi and Tennessee (don't remember the exact location of the place).Burn wrote:And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:20pm CST
Back to Power of the Primes
Posted by Rated X on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:30pm CST
Burn wrote:Every thing you just said there RX is so full of errors. I'm not going to waste my time educating you. I've done so in the past and it obviously hasn't sunk in.
Back to Power of the Primes
If you say so. Its Hasbros fault. Its a conspiracy against Australia. Move here. Ill hang out with you.
Posted by Burn on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:42pm CST
Burn wrote:Back to Power of the Primes
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:52pm CST
BombshellDaBug wrote:Actually, scratch that. Seems to me like it's been going hand-in-hand with the rumor that POTP is ending with Wave 4 (aka just Novastar). As someone in the thread mentioned earlier, we're basing a LOT of POTP speculation purely off of one leak that Hasbro clearly didn't intend on having to ever deal with. It seems to me that revealing all of the leaked toys is an attempt at damage control. I'd say it's possible that we're seeing toys that weren't supposed to be revealed until much later, Novastar and the Wave 3 Prime Masters being possible examples. I also don't seem to recall Toy Fair EVER being where Hasbro revealed everything they had in store for a toyline. Usually they save later reveals for other conventions.
You yourself are making many assumptions too by stating the opposite. Hasbro gave us all the details so there is nothing for any of us to assume. They were very clear. POTP is ending this year, we will get the first toys for the next line Januray 2019 (so they will be in stores this december). There will be exclusives this year that they are not revealing yet and we know for a fact that those exclusives are part of POTP. And they will reuse previous molds in their next trilogy.
So right there, they have not revealed everything, there are exclusives left, but there wont be a 5th wave either. And any toy you didnt get this year can still come out between 2019 and 2021.
Rated X wrote:the same way you would do me.
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2018 @ 9:55pm CST
Autobot N wrote:Not quite. While on vacation, I found a few Chaos on Velocitron sets at a Toysrus somewhere between Mississippi and Tennessee (don't remember the exact location of the place).Burn wrote:And lets not forget the Titans Return boxsets that were only available online in the US!
It was readily available at several brick and mortar TRU stores in the US and Canada. But only Canada and Hong Kong had the Seige on Cybertron set at Brick and Mortar.
Posted by bodrock on February 19th, 2018 @ 10:03pm CST
I was also fortunate the Chaos on Velocitron popped up at my TRU -- I never got the second one, since I could only find it online...
Posted by Acesmcgee on February 19th, 2018 @ 10:26pm CST
Been drinking coffee and enjoying some apple tartlets in between cleaning and playing, and right now I'm using the matrix frame and popping all the PotP masters in it. I'm so glad I started to collect these things as I did, been able to start filling in all the wants and replacements from childhood. These lines are so much fun, and if this is any indication of how much fun I'll have with the next 'trilogy' of toys when it happens, I'm excited.
Posted by EmirateXaaron on February 19th, 2018 @ 10:52pm CST
I really do wish that the Prime Masters worked a bit more like the Cyber Keys, though. I would have loved to been able to plug a Prime Master in and "power up" the figure, rather than just have them sit in some armor I know I'll never use.
Posted by bodrock on February 19th, 2018 @ 10:57pm CST
I opened up Hun-Gurrr, and am enjoying his double dragons.
Posted by Acesmcgee on February 19th, 2018 @ 11:42pm CST
bodrock wrote:If it makes you feel less jealous, I can't wait to get Moonracer, Aces!
I opened up Hun-Gurrr, and am enjoying his double dragons.
You know, once we have Sinnertwin we can star doing the double double dragons. And I think I mentioned, Moonracer isn't as bad a toy as I thought. Her vehicle mode is kind of hotdog like to me, but as a limb, she is going to be awesome.
Posted by Emerje on February 19th, 2018 @ 11:43pm CST
Hellscream9999 wrote:That's not exactly accurate, we've had toy fairs where they 'reveal' stuff that's out already, it doesn't usually go over well. Wave 3 had to be partially revealed as wave 2 is apparently chilling out in spades here in the state's (though I have to see any of them...) so revealing figures that have video reviews all over the internet, not really a great idea
You need to understand that Toy Fair is basically a trade show for the toy industry first and foremost and while they do have reveals there it's really more about showing stuff off to retailers and licensees that aren't as well informed as we are. It isn't like BotCon or SDCC where they really try to wow us (not to say they didn't occasionally fall short of expectations).
Then there's the issue with big corporate suits not always planning out their logistics correctly and have a wave that should still be a month away coming out early. Plus Hasbro stopped outsourcing their PR team around the start of Titans Return which I feel like has done weird things to the line of communication between Hasbro and us fans.
In an ideal world the "new" PotP figures would have been as well guarded as Cyberverse was.
william-james88 wrote:You yourself are making many assumptions too by stating the opposite. Hasbro gave us all the details so there is nothing for any of us to assume. They were very clear. POTP is ending this year, we will get the first toys for the next line Januray 2019 (so they will be in stores this december). There will be exclusives this year that they are not revealing yet and we know for a fact that those exclusives are part of POTP. And they will reuse previous molds in their next trilogy.
So right there, they have not revealed everything, there are exclusives left, but there wont be a 5th wave either. And any toy you didnt get this year can still come out between 2019 and 2021.
So what do you think the chances are of a Prime Masters wave 4? I think it's possible since we know there's an unused Waverider suit plus regular Onyx Prime (I don't think they'll be paired) waiting to be placed somewhere. And PMs are the only PotP class that hasn't had duplicates which I think is a sign that they're dedicated to getting all 12 out within PotP. It does mean getting four new PMs (the most of the line) in the final wave, but then again most of the first three waves of Titan Masters had 4 figures each so it isn't totally out of the question. I wonder if they'd be willing to let them bleed into WfC?
The other thing is wave 3 is supposed to arrive in July, but the way things are going it'll be more like late May which would leave nothing new for half the year. And despite how Hasbro tried to spin the poor distribution of late waves, it was Deluxe wave 5 (and in my case wave 4) that few in the USA could find at retail or online, Deluxe wave 6 was no problem.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on February 19th, 2018 @ 11:49pm CST
Emerje wrote: Plus Hasbro stopped outsourcing their PR team around the start of Titans Return which I feel like has done weird things to the line of communication between Hasbro and us fans.
They still use Rogers and Cowan for PR. We were in contact with them today about official images.
And I think the odds of getting wave 4 Prime Masters is high since I dont see how else we would get the 12 primes masters they promised us when we know the exclusive toys will come with special edition versions.
Posted by Emerje on February 20th, 2018 @ 12:02am CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote: Plus Hasbro stopped outsourcing their PR team around the start of Titans Return which I feel like has done weird things to the line of communication between Hasbro and us fans.
They still use Rogers and Cowan for PR. We were in contact with them today about official images.
Oh, then they changed it a second time. While I was writing for Tomopop they were using Hunter PR which was great, they always stayed in touch with us. Then they started doing PR internally and refused to contact us or reply to our emails requesting press releases (I PMed Ryan to verify we had the right contacts). I guess they didn't keep that going for long if they're back to using yet another PR team, no wonder why they're releasing stuff before they even announce it the way they're going through PR services.
Emerje