Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description
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We have now updated our site with a section filled with all official images given to us from Hasbro regarding the products revealed at Toy Fair 2019. That includes official images for Siege, Studio Series, Cyberverse, Botbots and exclusives like Ecto-1 Transformer and Combat Hero Megatron.
The Siege gallery contains official images of Transformers War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Springer, Thundercracker, Commander Class Jetfire, Titan Class Omega Supreme, new Battle Masters, Deluxe Class Impactor, Red Alert, Mirage, and Leader Class Optimus Prime. Clicking any image below will bring you to the official image gallery for the Siege reveals. We also included the official product descriptions which includes Barricade's, a wave 4 deluxe figure who's listing we also found earlier today.
Generations WFC Siege Line:
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Leader WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade OPTIMUS PRIME figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into CYBERTRONIAN truck mode and comes with JF-50 Twinblast Galaxy Pack armor, 2 W-30 Magnetic Inducer Launchers, and JF-15 Gravity Force Laser accessories. Use weapon and armor accessories from the truck trailer to gear up OPTIMUS PRIME figure in his Galaxy Armor, converting to C.O.M.B.A.T. READY mode. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Titan WFC-S29 Omega Supreme
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $159.99/ Available: Aug 1, 2019)
This colossal 2-foot scale Titan Class WFC-S29 OMEGA SUPREME figure features a G1-inspired design and converts to AUTOBOT Command Center mode, made up of a tank, rocket, control tower, and defense perimeter. The included MICROMASTER, AUTOBOT COUNTDOWN, fits inside rocket, tank, and control tower, and can ride along the defense perimeter. Includes 6 Fire Blasts accessories to simulate battle effects on figure and Command Center mode. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. As the AUTOBOT counter-resistance takes on the DECEPTICON resistance army, the unyielding AUTOBOT army captain and city defender, OMEGA SUPREME, lies in wait -- the AUTOBOTS last line of defense. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Commander WFC-S28 Jetfire
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $79.99/ Available: Aug 1, 2019)
The WFC-S28 JETFIRE figure stands at 11 inches in robot mode and converts into a Cybertronian aircraft. JETFIRE figure comes with 2 JF-25 HS Photon Missile Sky Launchers, 2 HS Photon Missiles, 2 JF-15 HP Jetboost Particle Beam Cannon, 2 SF-M2 Radiograph Boosters, Skyshield Aerial Armor, and Skyshield Battle Mask accessories. Use weapon and armor accessories to convert figure to C.O.M.B.A.T. READY mode. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. JETFIRE has a special feature where Deluxe figures’ (each sold separately, subject to availability) attach to jet mode so fans can imagine them being deployed into battle from above. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager WFC-S39 Thundercracker
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
The Voyager Class WFC-S39 THUNDERCRACKER figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into jet mode and comes with 2 HPI Null-Ray Laser Launcher accessories. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures (each sold separately). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager WFC-S38 Autobot Springer
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S38 AUTOBOT SPRINGER figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and helicopter modes and comes with 2 W-10 Airslice Chopper Blades, JF-10 Warp Blaster, and C-10 EM Void Blast Capacitor accessories. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures (each sold separately). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S30 Caliburst
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S30 CALIBURST figure stands at 1.5 inches toy and converts from beast mode to Oxidation Cannon weapon mode in 5 easy steps. Use the weapon mode to equip other Siege figures (sold separately) with larger mission loadouts and use the included Fire Blasts to simulate blasterfire coming from the weapon mode of Battle Masters or other Siege weapon accessories (not included). Build the ultimate battlefield with TRANSFORMERS War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. The DECEPTICON resistance army and the AUTOBOT counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including weapon mode Battle Masters -- sentient bots that convert into weapons. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.
Transformers Toy Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S31 Smashdown
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S31 SMASHDOWN action figure stands at 1.5 inches in beast mode and converts into an Airquake Hammerclaw in 6 easy steps. Use the weapon mode to equip other Siege figures (sold separately) with larger mission loadouts and use the included Fire Blasts accessory to simulate the impact of a hammer hitting its target. Build the ultimate battlefield with TRANSFORMERS War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. The DECEPTICON resistance army and the AUTOBOT counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including weapon mode Battle Masters -- sentient bots that convert into weapons. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S35 Red Alert
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S35 RED ALERT figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with a converting RT-15 Particle Beam Circuit Welder weapon accessory with axe and blaster modes. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S41 Barricade
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
The WFC-S41 BARRICADE figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 2 weapon accessories, 2 HF Siren-Blast Punisher Cannons, that combine to form a larger cannon. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.
Transformers: Toys Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S43 Autobot Mirage
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
Winner of 2018 Fan Vote, the WFC-S43 AUTOBOT MIRAGE figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 3 weapon accessories: the C-20 Electro-Disruptor Cannon, Distortion Missile, and the W-15 Armor-Piercing Rocket-Dart Launcher. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Toys Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S42 Autobot Impactor
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
Winner of 2018 Fan Vote, the WFC-S42 AUTOBOT IMPACTOR figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 2 weapon accessories: the HP Energon Mineblaster and Trilithium Drill. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
The Siege gallery contains official images of Transformers War for Cybertron SIEGE Voyager Class Springer, Thundercracker, Commander Class Jetfire, Titan Class Omega Supreme, new Battle Masters, Deluxe Class Impactor, Red Alert, Mirage, and Leader Class Optimus Prime. Clicking any image below will bring you to the official image gallery for the Siege reveals. We also included the official product descriptions which includes Barricade's, a wave 4 deluxe figure who's listing we also found earlier today.
Generations WFC Siege Line:
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Leader WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $49.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S40 Galaxy Upgrade OPTIMUS PRIME figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into CYBERTRONIAN truck mode and comes with JF-50 Twinblast Galaxy Pack armor, 2 W-30 Magnetic Inducer Launchers, and JF-15 Gravity Force Laser accessories. Use weapon and armor accessories from the truck trailer to gear up OPTIMUS PRIME figure in his Galaxy Armor, converting to C.O.M.B.A.T. READY mode. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Titan WFC-S29 Omega Supreme
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $159.99/ Available: Aug 1, 2019)
This colossal 2-foot scale Titan Class WFC-S29 OMEGA SUPREME figure features a G1-inspired design and converts to AUTOBOT Command Center mode, made up of a tank, rocket, control tower, and defense perimeter. The included MICROMASTER, AUTOBOT COUNTDOWN, fits inside rocket, tank, and control tower, and can ride along the defense perimeter. Includes 6 Fire Blasts accessories to simulate battle effects on figure and Command Center mode. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. As the AUTOBOT counter-resistance takes on the DECEPTICON resistance army, the unyielding AUTOBOT army captain and city defender, OMEGA SUPREME, lies in wait -- the AUTOBOTS last line of defense. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Commander WFC-S28 Jetfire
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $79.99/ Available: Aug 1, 2019)
The WFC-S28 JETFIRE figure stands at 11 inches in robot mode and converts into a Cybertronian aircraft. JETFIRE figure comes with 2 JF-25 HS Photon Missile Sky Launchers, 2 HS Photon Missiles, 2 JF-15 HP Jetboost Particle Beam Cannon, 2 SF-M2 Radiograph Boosters, Skyshield Aerial Armor, and Skyshield Battle Mask accessories. Use weapon and armor accessories to convert figure to C.O.M.B.A.T. READY mode. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. JETFIRE has a special feature where Deluxe figures’ (each sold separately, subject to availability) attach to jet mode so fans can imagine them being deployed into battle from above. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager WFC-S39 Thundercracker
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
The Voyager Class WFC-S39 THUNDERCRACKER figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into jet mode and comes with 2 HPI Null-Ray Laser Launcher accessories. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures (each sold separately). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Voyager WFC-S38 Autobot Springer
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $29.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S38 AUTOBOT SPRINGER figure stands at 7 inches in robot mode and converts into CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and helicopter modes and comes with 2 W-10 Airslice Chopper Blades, JF-10 Warp Blaster, and C-10 EM Void Blast Capacitor accessories. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures (each sold separately). Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S30 Caliburst
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S30 CALIBURST figure stands at 1.5 inches toy and converts from beast mode to Oxidation Cannon weapon mode in 5 easy steps. Use the weapon mode to equip other Siege figures (sold separately) with larger mission loadouts and use the included Fire Blasts to simulate blasterfire coming from the weapon mode of Battle Masters or other Siege weapon accessories (not included). Build the ultimate battlefield with TRANSFORMERS War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. The DECEPTICON resistance army and the AUTOBOT counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including weapon mode Battle Masters -- sentient bots that convert into weapons. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.
Transformers Toy Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Battle Masters WFC-S31 Smashdown
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $5.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S31 SMASHDOWN action figure stands at 1.5 inches in beast mode and converts into an Airquake Hammerclaw in 6 easy steps. Use the weapon mode to equip other Siege figures (sold separately) with larger mission loadouts and use the included Fire Blasts accessory to simulate the impact of a hammer hitting its target. Build the ultimate battlefield with TRANSFORMERS War for Cybertron: Siege collectible figures, featuring classic G1 characters. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. The DECEPTICON resistance army and the AUTOBOT counter-resistance fighters gear up with the universe's most advanced modular weaponry, including weapon mode Battle Masters -- sentient bots that convert into weapons. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S35 Red Alert
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Jul 1, 2019)
The WFC-S35 RED ALERT figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with a converting RT-15 Particle Beam Circuit Welder weapon accessory with axe and blaster modes. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S41 Barricade
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
The WFC-S41 BARRICADE figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 2 weapon accessories, 2 HF Siren-Blast Punisher Cannons, that combine to form a larger cannon. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers nationwide.
Transformers: Toys Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S43 Autobot Mirage
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
Winner of 2018 Fan Vote, the WFC-S43 AUTOBOT MIRAGE figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 3 weapon accessories: the C-20 Electro-Disruptor Cannon, Distortion Missile, and the W-15 Armor-Piercing Rocket-Dart Launcher. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
Transformers: Toys Generations War for Cybertron: Siege Deluxe WFC-S42 Autobot Impactor
(Ages 8 and Up/ Approx. Retail Price: $19.99/ Available: Oct 1, 2019)
Winner of 2018 Fan Vote, the WFC-S42 AUTOBOT IMPACTOR figure stands at 5.5 inches in robot mode and converts into a CYBERTRONIAN vehicle and comes with 2 weapon accessories: the HP Energon Mineblaster and Trilithium Drill. Figure features multiple C.O.M.B.A.T. System weapon ports to attach weapons, enabling custom configurations in bot and vehicle modes. Build the ultimate battlefield with Siege figures. Siege plunges fans into the epic fight to survive on the final day of the AUTOBOT and DECEPTICON battle to control CYBERTRON. Adult fans nostalgic for the original TRANSFORMERS animation and kids discovering classic characters for the first time can share and experience exciting play patterns for all generations. Available at most major toy retailers and for Pre-order on HasbroPulse.com.
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Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011718)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:34pm CST
Welcome to the ranks of the numbers obsessed, my friend, I've done a few posts like this since the code website went up. Here's what I've got to add to your basework:
-The numbering for Siege extends to S51, according to the code site
-Since the code site doesn't have entries for any figures from the Master pricepoints, we know that S44-47 should be more Masters, unless the 35th anniversary Siege figures have standard numbers and no lore, in which case this is them (I think they'll have a separate numbering system though, like how Selects Camo Megs is separate).
In addition, as I was writing this, I pulled up said site to double-check stuff and I realized that if you click on the files for unreleased figures, it tells you what month they come out, and from whether the background shows either Prime or Megs, what faction the figure is. That second part isn't just guesswork, I checked the file backgrounds for figures who's numbers we know and the factions match every time (for example, Soundwave and Screamer's numbers show Megs, Jetfire and Omega's show Prime). With that in mind, we can determine the following:
S26: Autobot, July release
S27: Decepticon, July release
S34: Autobot, July release (which also means that Brunt and Refraktor have to be S36 and S37)
S48: Decepticon, December release
S49: Autobot, December release
S50: Decepticon, December release
S51: Decepticon, December release
Granted, those release dates may not exact, as the file for Omega claims he'll be out in July, not August, but I think this means it's safe to say that either Hasbro is putting out 4 exclusives in December, or there's more retail content after Impactor. Either way, there's definite room for Apeface and Astrotrain in here.
My predictions? S34 is Ratchet, and comes out more around August/September, S26 and S27 are the Firestormer Pack and Skywarp, respectively, with the correct date as that would line up with last year's Prime Wars exclusives, some combination of S48, S50, and S52 are Apeface and Astrotrain with a mystery friend (Snapdragon?), and S49 is possibly Lancer, and their dates are all correct (the site correctly says October for Wave 4, so the December date should be deliberate).
Posted by Nemesis Primal on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:34pm CST
mordhelm wrote:So we have at least 2 figures totally unaccounted for. Based on this being a 1yr line and the astrotrain rumor being december I am going to say that Astrotrain and Apeface are WFC Pt2 not Siege.
I am going to throw a guess out there that following are going to happen:
Rumble and Frenzy (S32 or 33)
Exclusive Lancer
Exclusive Ratchet
So S32 is Rumble and Frenzy
S34 S36 are Brunt and Refracktor
S26 S27 and S37 are Skywarp, Firestormer, Lancer, and Ratchet.
The only thing that gives me some pause on this theory is that Ratchet is a pretty late release, almost makes sense for him to be in the 40s.
Anyone else wanna share thoughts?
Welcome to the ranks of the numbers obsessed, my friend, I've done a few posts like this since the code website went up. Here's what I've got to add to your basework:
-The numbering for Siege extends to S51, according to the code site
-Since the code site doesn't have entries for any figures from the Master pricepoints, we know that S44-47 should be more Masters, unless the 35th anniversary Siege figures have standard numbers and no lore, in which case this is them (I think they'll have a separate numbering system though, like how Selects Camo Megs is separate).
In addition, as I was writing this, I pulled up said site to double-check stuff and I realized that if you click on the files for unreleased figures, it tells you what month they come out, and from whether the background shows either Prime or Megs, what faction the figure is. That second part isn't just guesswork, I checked the file backgrounds for figures who's numbers we know and the factions match every time (for example, Soundwave and Screamer's numbers show Megs, Jetfire and Omega's show Prime). With that in mind, we can determine the following:
S26: Autobot, July release
S27: Decepticon, July release
S34: Autobot, July release (which also means that Brunt and Refraktor have to be S36 and S37)
S48: Decepticon, December release
S49: Autobot, December release
S50: Decepticon, December release
S51: Decepticon, December release
Granted, those release dates may not exact, as the file for Omega claims he'll be out in July, not August, but I think this means it's safe to say that either Hasbro is putting out 4 exclusives in December, or there's more retail content after Impactor. Either way, there's definite room for Apeface and Astrotrain in here.
My predictions? S34 is Ratchet, and comes out more around August/September, S26 and S27 are the Firestormer Pack and Skywarp, respectively, with the correct date as that would line up with last year's Prime Wars exclusives, some combination of S48, S50, and S52 are Apeface and Astrotrain with a mystery friend (Snapdragon?), and S49 is possibly Lancer, and their dates are all correct (the site correctly says October for Wave 4, so the December date should be deliberate).
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011720)
Posted by Emerje on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:45pm CST
I tried so hard to push this idea of beast helmets/masks/whatever for the Horrorcons and couldn't get anyone convinced it was a good idea. I even used Sixshot as an example of it being done right just smaller.
I really don't understand why people would want a giant Astrotrain. It's not like they could ever make him big enough to to fit more than a couple 'Masters inside him. I'd rather have a Leader figure that's got big, complex transformations, but the bot is only about Voyager size.
Most? At this point don't we have a lot more post movie characters than not?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:45pm CST
carytheone wrote:My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.
I tried so hard to push this idea of beast helmets/masks/whatever for the Horrorcons and couldn't get anyone convinced it was a good idea. I even used Sixshot as an example of it being done right just smaller.
Caelus wrote:Astrotrain being Leader Class instead of Commander class feels like a missed opportunity. Will be interesting to see how they work in the armor gimmick if at all.
I really don't understand why people would want a giant Astrotrain. It's not like they could ever make him big enough to to fit more than a couple 'Masters inside him. I'd rather have a Leader figure that's got big, complex transformations, but the bot is only about Voyager size.
Skritz wrote:Not just more Decepticons, but Decepticons which are from the era of The Rebirth. In a line where most stuff is '84+The Movie.
Most? At this point don't we have a lot more post movie characters than not?
Emerje
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011721)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:46pm CST
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:46pm CST
It's kind of interesting that Barricade isn't labeled as Decepticon Barricade like you usually get with figures who's names are just regular words.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011722)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:49pm CST
Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 20th, 2019 @ 9:49pm CST
Emerje wrote:carytheone wrote:My guess is maybe the beast modes heads would have a helmet type gimmick like the TR leaders did. So the new head/titan masters would form the robot head and plug into a beast helmet or mask type scenario.
I tried so hard to push this idea of beast helmets/masks/whatever for the Horrorcons and couldn't get anyone convinced it was a good idea. I even used Sixshot as an example of it being done right just smaller.Caelus wrote:Astrotrain being Leader Class instead of Commander class feels like a missed opportunity. Will be interesting to see how they work in the armor gimmick if at all.
I really don't understand why people would want a giant Astrotrain. It's not like they could ever make him big enough to to fit more than a couple 'Masters inside him. I'd rather have a Leader figure that's got big, complex transformations, but the bot is only about Voyager size.Skritz wrote:Not just more Decepticons, but Decepticons which are from the era of The Rebirth. In a line where most stuff is '84+The Movie.
Most? At this point don't we have a lot more post movie characters than not?
Emerje
Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011727)
Posted by Black Bumblebee on February 20th, 2019 @ 10:41pm CST
Posted by Black Bumblebee on February 20th, 2019 @ 10:41pm CST
I would love for Hasbro to troll us and the Barricade that they are releasing... is actually Generation 1 Barricade: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barricade_(G1)
Could end up being a repaint of Mirage
Could end up being a repaint of Mirage
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011733)
Posted by Emerje on February 20th, 2019 @ 11:30pm CST
Who said he'd have armor? I realize the first 3 Leaders have armor, but only because it fits their character, not because there's some sort of mandate for all Leaders to have armor like in PotP. There are no class gimmicks in this line which is why we can have regular Deluxe figures along side Weaponizers and a Duocon or a Triplechanger (and "quadruplechanger" in Soundwave) mixed with some regular Voyagers. There's no reason to assume Astrotrain will have armor, he'll just be a big figure. Thought I doubt he'll be much bigger than the already large TR Voyager Astrotrain.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 20th, 2019 @ 11:30pm CST
Wireless_Phantom wrote:Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.
Who said he'd have armor? I realize the first 3 Leaders have armor, but only because it fits their character, not because there's some sort of mandate for all Leaders to have armor like in PotP. There are no class gimmicks in this line which is why we can have regular Deluxe figures along side Weaponizers and a Duocon or a Triplechanger (and "quadruplechanger" in Soundwave) mixed with some regular Voyagers. There's no reason to assume Astrotrain will have armor, he'll just be a big figure. Thought I doubt he'll be much bigger than the already large TR Voyager Astrotrain.
Emerje
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011740)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:04am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:04am CST
i dunno. kinda weird to me to have Astrotrain way bigger than Blitzwing and Octane. That whole Astrotrain as Decepticon shuttle thing just seemed really silly (though the whole thing with triple changers with realistic alt-modes raises too many scale issues anyways). Particularly the infamous scene in the 86 movie where frickin' Devastator combines while inside. How big would Astrotrain's shuttle need to be in toy form to have his CW toy fit inside? 
Springer here looks like he's wearing a bad christmas decoration on his left side for some reason.
Springer here looks like he's wearing a bad christmas decoration on his left side for some reason.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011742)
Posted by angtre on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:14am CST
It may be a straight Prowl repaint, like its "Aligned" version from the "Timelines" line. Still I hope they'll go for something more akin to its movie counterpart.
Posted by angtre on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:14am CST
Black Bumblebee wrote:I would love for Hasbro to troll us and the Barricade that they are releasing... is actually Generation 1 Barricade: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Barricade_(G1)
Could end up being a repaint of Mirage
It may be a straight Prowl repaint, like its "Aligned" version from the "Timelines" line. Still I hope they'll go for something more akin to its movie counterpart.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011744)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:33am CST
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:33am CST
Gotta admit, that Omega Supreme is VERY impressive. But I'm not sure if I'll ever buy it.
My must will be Jetfire, Starscream, and Thundercracker. Also, Reflector. That's the only ones so far as official pictures have been shown.
I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
My must will be Jetfire, Starscream, and Thundercracker. Also, Reflector. That's the only ones so far as official pictures have been shown.
I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011745)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:47am CST
Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:47am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011748)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:54am CST
I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:54am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.
I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011751)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:04am CST
If you say so. They look way too big to sit on a Voyager to me. And I forgot those 'poles' even existed cos on the figures I had/have like TR Megatron they looked silly so I never use them, and not like a larger head at all. Not sure what fiction reasons would have to be for those guys to have larger little people turn into their heads. I would think if they keep the size they could increase it by using a part on the body similar in idea to those 'poles' maybe but different like on some of the smaller figures. So maybe Snapdragons buddy only firms the top half of the dragon head while the lower jaw is folded out from with the dragons neck. Maybe. I dunno. Wait and see what hasbro does I guess.
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:04am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.
I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.
If you say so. They look way too big to sit on a Voyager to me. And I forgot those 'poles' even existed cos on the figures I had/have like TR Megatron they looked silly so I never use them, and not like a larger head at all. Not sure what fiction reasons would have to be for those guys to have larger little people turn into their heads. I would think if they keep the size they could increase it by using a part on the body similar in idea to those 'poles' maybe but different like on some of the smaller figures. So maybe Snapdragons buddy only firms the top half of the dragon head while the lower jaw is folded out from with the dragons neck. Maybe. I dunno. Wait and see what hasbro does I guess.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011752)
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:07am CST
I hope you're prepared for disappointment
To be fair all they have to be is triple changers, everything else is negotiable.
As for Astrotrain, I'm expecting the leader Class price point to justify the parts count to make splendid looking alt modes and a slightly larger voyager bot mode as others have said
Posted by ZeroWolf on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:07am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.
I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.
I hope you're prepared for disappointment
To be fair all they have to be is triple changers, everything else is negotiable. As for Astrotrain, I'm expecting the leader Class price point to justify the parts count to make splendid looking alt modes and a slightly larger voyager bot mode as others have said
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011754)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:12am CST
Overquoting a bit just to say that most likely, the headmasters of the horrorcons will be normal Titan Masters. And for the beast heads, the Titan Master will just make "half" of the head, while the other half will be filled in by a "helmet" similar to what was done for Titan Return leaders.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:12am CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Carnivius_Prime wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:I'm looking forward the Horrorcons reveals. I do hope that their headmasters will be the same size as the Siege Targetmasters/Micromasters. I don't care about Titan Return compatibility. Let the Horrorcons give good head. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Do you have any of those Micromasters/Targetmasters? That size is kinda big to be turning into heads, the bodies would have to be leader sized at least I think.
I have just a set and for a voyager, those head would be perfect. Sure, the bot will have a slightly bigger head, but it will be closer to the originals. Furthermore, the TR voyagers have the poles gimmick to make the head "bigger". And finally, the Horrorcons heads MUST be triple-changing and become monster heads too. Thus the size increase.
If you say so. They look way too big to sit on a Voyager to me. And I forgot those 'poles' even existed cos on the figures I had/have like TR Megatron they looked silly so I never use them, and not like a larger head at all. Not sure what fiction reasons would have to be for those guys to have larger little people turn into their heads. I would think if they keep the size they could increase it by using a part on the body similar in idea to those 'poles' maybe but different like on some of the smaller figures. So maybe Snapdragons buddy only firms the top half of the dragon head while the lower jaw is folded out from with the dragons neck. Maybe. I dunno. Wait and see what hasbro does I guess.
Overquoting a bit just to say that most likely, the headmasters of the horrorcons will be normal Titan Masters. And for the beast heads, the Titan Master will just make "half" of the head, while the other half will be filled in by a "helmet" similar to what was done for Titan Return leaders.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011755)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:23am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 5:23am CST
Damn kremzeek 503ing the site and lost the reply I typed apologising for the quotes (I'm using phone today instead of usual PC and I'm finding it very awkward) and yeah what you said is what I meant. I shush now
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011761)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 7:17am CST
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 7:17am CST
Hasbro gets stuck in the size class gimmick rut, so I'm predicting armor for Astrotrain so they can fudge the mass shifting of his shuttle mode. If he's also a triple changer his base alt mold will be a choo choo, then a slight transformation and armor will make up a larger shuttle.Emerje wrote:Wireless_Phantom wrote:Now, I'm not really sure what they are doing with Astrotrain in regards to what they are doing with the armor of course, but I think it makes sense for him to be a leader in this line, since he'll be a little bit bigger than a voyager like say Starscream as he should be, at least based on the cartoon model.
Who said he'd have armor? I realize the first 3 Leaders have armor, but only because it fits their character, not because there's some sort of mandate for all Leaders to have armor like in PotP. There are no class gimmicks in this line which is why we can have regular Deluxe figures along side Weaponizers and a Duocon or a Triplechanger (and "quadruplechanger" in Soundwave) mixed with some regular Voyagers. There's no reason to assume Astrotrain will have armor, he'll just be a big figure. Thought I doubt he'll be much bigger than the already large TR Voyager Astrotrain.
Emerje
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011766)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 21st, 2019 @ 7:31am CST
Posted by Rodimus Knight on February 21st, 2019 @ 7:31am CST
I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011768)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 7:34am CST
Edit: after really studying the pics I agree with others, his arms were removed at the mushroom pegs.
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 7:34am CST
I'm going with happy accident for both cassette player and lamp post. Lamp post may have been slightly less accidental though. Anyway, it's not much of a stretch to turn a blocky robot that turns into a blocky space ship into a block. If he didn't have so many G1 cassette player design queues it may not look so convincing.Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?
Edit: after really studying the pics I agree with others, his arms were removed at the mushroom pegs.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011769)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:09am CST
Posted by Cyberpath on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:09am CST
I wonder if SIEGE Laserbeak/Ravage are comparable with the G1/MP tapes.
Probably smaller?
Probably smaller?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011775)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:44am CST
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:44am CST
It's be cool if they were, but I'm also thinking smaller. They seem to have slightly different proportions as well.Cyberpath wrote:I wonder if SIEGE Laserbeak/Ravage are comparable with the G1/MP tapes.
Probably smaller?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011778)
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:59am CST
its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device. But I felt boombox was the shortest catch all term for people to get the idea in a headline.
And anyways, unlike every single 84 release, Soundwave is the only Takara toy who's not a copy of a real life object made to transform, and instead something made just for the toy. There is no real life counterpart to Soundwave's alt mode.
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:59am CST
Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
My question is, was that an intended mode or a happy accident?
its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device. But I felt boombox was the shortest catch all term for people to get the idea in a headline.
And anyways, unlike every single 84 release, Soundwave is the only Takara toy who's not a copy of a real life object made to transform, and instead something made just for the toy. There is no real life counterpart to Soundwave's alt mode.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011782)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 9:13am CST
Soundwave is just a superior amalgamation.
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 9:13am CST
Those have speakers too if we're splitting hairs.william-james88 wrote:its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device.Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
Soundwave is just a superior amalgamation.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011787)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 21st, 2019 @ 9:24am CST
Not all do, relying solely on headphones for sound output. Also, with the clip in the back he resembles a Walkman more (another one for you old lot). Originally, as Cassette Man, Soundwave did come with faux headphones and microphone, which were retained for his Japanese release.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 21st, 2019 @ 9:24am CST
carytheone wrote:Those have speakers too if we're splitting hairs.william-james88 wrote:its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device.Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
Soundwave is just a superior amalgamation.
Not all do, relying solely on headphones for sound output. Also, with the clip in the back he resembles a Walkman more (another one for you old lot). Originally, as Cassette Man, Soundwave did come with faux headphones and microphone, which were retained for his Japanese release.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011789)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 9:36am CST
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 9:36am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Not all do, relying solely on headphones for sound output. Also, with the clip in the back he resembles a Walkman more (another one for you old lot). Originally, as Cassette Man, Soundwave did come with faux headphones and microphone, which were retained for his Japanese release.carytheone wrote:Those have speakers too if we're splitting hairs.william-james88 wrote:its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device.Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
carytheone wrote:Soundwave is just a superior amalgamation.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011799)
Posted by Albatross250 on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by Albatross250 on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:21am CST
i do wish Armada Tidal Wave as the next Commander-class, i hope i'm not alone. 
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011803)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:31am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:31am CST
It'd still be shorter than the original.Albatross250 wrote:i do wish Armada Tidal Wave as the next Commander-class, i hope i'm not alone.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011804)
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:33am CST
I dont get it, doesnt that pic show that there are no speakers?
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:33am CST
carytheone wrote:Those have speakers too if we're splitting hairs.william-james88 wrote:its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device.Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
Soundwave is just a superior amalgamation.
I dont get it, doesnt that pic show that there are no speakers?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011807)
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:36am CST
you are not alone.
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:36am CST
william-james88 wrote:Just curious, am I the only one that really doesnt like Geoff Senior's style?
you are not alone.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011809)
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:37am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:37am CST
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011815)
Posted by Albatross250 on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:42am CST
I'll be happy with that alongside with Apeface and Siege Shockwave, despite being him as a shortie.
Posted by Albatross250 on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:42am CST
Sabrblade wrote:It'd still be shorter than the original.Albatross250 wrote:i do wish Armada Tidal Wave as the next Commander-class, i hope i'm not alone.
I'll be happy with that alongside with Apeface and Siege Shockwave, despite being him as a shortie.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011818)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
Would d be okay with that if he looked awesome enough.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:43am CST
Sabrblade wrote:It'd still be shorter than the original.Albatross250 wrote:i do wish Armada Tidal Wave as the next Commander-class, i hope i'm not alone.
Would d be okay with that if he looked awesome enough.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011819)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:44am CST
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2019 @ 10:44am CST
Sabrblade wrote:It'd still be shorter than the original.Albatross250 wrote:i do wish Armada Tidal Wave as the next Commander-class, i hope i'm not alone.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011821)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:03am CST
I was just being an ass by farther splitting the hairs you split, but none of this matters much as Siege Soundwave and his minions are none of the above.
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:03am CST
Yup, but having or not having speakers is irrelevant as both cassette and micro-cassette players come with or without. That pic is of a full sized cassette player without speakers. Soundwave is traditionally a micro-cassette player and his cassettebot minions' alt modes are 1:1 with real micro-cassettes. Soundwave's G1 color scheme seems to be heavily influenced by that Sony Walkman full sized cassette player. Soundwave is an amalgamation of ideas, concepts and design queues.william-james88 wrote:I dont get it, doesnt that pic show that there are no speakers?carytheone wrote:Those have speakers too if we're splitting hairs.william-james88 wrote:its not a casette player either, since there are no speakers. it's a microcasette tape recording device.Rodimus Knight wrote:I think you should be referring Soundwave's 3rd mode as a cassette player since boom boxes tend to be bigger then that.
Soundwave is just a superior amalgamation.
I was just being an ass by farther splitting the hairs you split, but none of this matters much as Siege Soundwave and his minions are none of the above.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011822)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:08am CST
Basically Soundwave has never made much sense much like many of the early G1 toys that weren't realistic cars or jets and such and had to invent poor and illogical reasons to explain their alt-modes for the fiction of the time.
I kinda wish Springer had one of those switchable insignias like Jetfire does. Though if I really want to I could just stick a Decepticon symbol on his chest cos I have plenty from Toyhax anyways but it's not quite a simple and convenient as having it built in and easily changable back and forth. I know it's nowhere near as important as Jetfires, since Springer was never a true Decepticon and Jetfire was (for some reason) but eh I gotta Marvel UK...
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:08am CST
carytheone wrote:Yup, but having or not having speakers is irrelevant as both cassette and micro-cassette players come with or without. That pic is of a full sized cassette player without speakers. Soundwave is traditionally a micro-cassette player and his cassettebot minions' alt modes are 1:1 with real micro-cassettes. Soundwave's G1 color scheme seems to be heavily influenced by that Sony Walkman full sized cassette player. Soundwave is an amalgamation of ideas, concepts and design queues.
I was just being an ass by farther splitting the hairs you split, but none of this matters much as Siege Soundwave and his minions are none of the above.
Basically Soundwave has never made much sense much like many of the early G1 toys that weren't realistic cars or jets and such and had to invent poor and illogical reasons to explain their alt-modes for the fiction of the time.
I kinda wish Springer had one of those switchable insignias like Jetfire does. Though if I really want to I could just stick a Decepticon symbol on his chest cos I have plenty from Toyhax anyways but it's not quite a simple and convenient as having it built in and easily changable back and forth. I know it's nowhere near as important as Jetfires, since Springer was never a true Decepticon and Jetfire was (for some reason) but eh I gotta Marvel UK...
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011828)
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:26am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:26am CST
i am so excited!
now i will have
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but now i gotta find a new role for
now i will have
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but now i gotta find a new role for
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011829)
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:29am CST
Posted by X3ROhour on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:29am CST
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Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011831)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:35am CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:35am CST
Hm, he's not an easy one to get waist articulation on is he?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011832)
Posted by Evil Eye on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:59am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 21st, 2019 @ 11:59am CST
So with regards to what's been revealed thus far...
>Prime: Possibly. One can never have too many Primes after all, and he does look very nice.
>Megatron: Maybe. Something about him seems off somehow. I still have my Dropshot-based custom to complete as well, so depending on how that turns out...we shall see.
>Combat Hero Megatron: Pass. Looks cool but not for me.
>Soundwave: Yes, definitely. He looks great.
>Shockwave: YES YES YES YES YES.
>Ultra Magnus: Most likely, he looks very good.
>Leader Prime: Maybe if I don't get the Voyager, he is very cool and more UT influence is always nice but something seems off about his proportions.
>Springer: Pass. Looks a cool toy but...I don't really care about Springer all that much.
>Starscream: Pass. Robot mode looks great but I don't care much for the vehicle mode.
>Thundercracker: See above.
>Hound: Yes. Looks awesome.
>All weaponizers: Multiples. They're so cooooooool.
>Reflector: Yes, all three.
>Sideswipe: Maybe, he looks pretty good.
>Red Alert: Pass, never cared all that much for him.
>Mirage: Pass, looks a bit awkward.
>Prowl: Maybe, I like him a fair bit but I'm not sure.
>Impactor: Pass, too small and too wonky looking.
>Flywheels: Maybe. He's OK.
>Jetfire: Yes, if I can justify him, he looks incredible.
>Omega Supreme: See above.
>Battlemasters: Case by case, they do look interesting though.
>Chromia: Pass, I do want Greenlight and Lancer though (and Firestar if I can find her).
>Ironhide: Yes, best Ironhide we've gotten in CHUG scale.
>Micromasters: Probably pass unless an absolute corker comes out.
Now we have that nonsense out of the way, my wishes for the future of the line:
>I really hope Astrotrain is good and has a nice train mode. I don't mind if he's just BIG or if he's a Voyager with extra bits that form a caboose or something.
>Grapple and Inferno!
>Some more UT characters- Demolishor and a Leader class Weaponizer Overload especially.
>Prime: Possibly. One can never have too many Primes after all, and he does look very nice.
>Megatron: Maybe. Something about him seems off somehow. I still have my Dropshot-based custom to complete as well, so depending on how that turns out...we shall see.
>Combat Hero Megatron: Pass. Looks cool but not for me.
>Soundwave: Yes, definitely. He looks great.
>Shockwave: YES YES YES YES YES.
>Ultra Magnus: Most likely, he looks very good.
>Leader Prime: Maybe if I don't get the Voyager, he is very cool and more UT influence is always nice but something seems off about his proportions.
>Springer: Pass. Looks a cool toy but...I don't really care about Springer all that much.
>Starscream: Pass. Robot mode looks great but I don't care much for the vehicle mode.
>Thundercracker: See above.
>Hound: Yes. Looks awesome.
>All weaponizers: Multiples. They're so cooooooool.
>Reflector: Yes, all three.
>Sideswipe: Maybe, he looks pretty good.
>Red Alert: Pass, never cared all that much for him.
>Mirage: Pass, looks a bit awkward.
>Prowl: Maybe, I like him a fair bit but I'm not sure.
>Impactor: Pass, too small and too wonky looking.
>Flywheels: Maybe. He's OK.
>Jetfire: Yes, if I can justify him, he looks incredible.
>Omega Supreme: See above.
>Battlemasters: Case by case, they do look interesting though.
>Chromia: Pass, I do want Greenlight and Lancer though (and Firestar if I can find her).
>Ironhide: Yes, best Ironhide we've gotten in CHUG scale.
>Micromasters: Probably pass unless an absolute corker comes out.
Now we have that nonsense out of the way, my wishes for the future of the line:
>I really hope Astrotrain is good and has a nice train mode. I don't mind if he's just BIG or if he's a Voyager with extra bits that form a caboose or something.
>Grapple and Inferno!
>Some more UT characters- Demolishor and a Leader class Weaponizer Overload especially.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011833)
Posted by joevill on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:04pm CST
Posted by joevill on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:04pm CST
Fun fun fun!!
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011834)
Posted by Cobotron on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:04pm CST
The only time that alt mode made absolute sense was in it's original Microchange environment.
Luckily, the realm of imagination need not make sense.
Posted by Cobotron on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:04pm CST
Carnivius_Prime wrote:Basically Soundwave has never made much sense much like many of the early G1 toys that weren't realistic cars or jets and such and had to invent poor and illogical reasons to explain their alt-modes for the fiction of the time.
The only time that alt mode made absolute sense was in it's original Microchange environment.
Luckily, the realm of imagination need not make sense.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011836)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:18pm CST
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:18pm CST
is that cybertron optimus prime supposed to be the g1 optimus reformatted yet again, or is it actually the cybertron counterpart from another dimension? just curious. I don't care for the figure at all but the Armada one not yet in colour actually looks alright. That design was a bit chunky but in a tough guy way, not in a fat way like cybertron and especially energon, and ditching the chest windows gave him a more unique look to other incarnations. Still looked like garbage in super mode but the regular form was fine and i got nice memories of playing the rather good Armada game on PS2. Hurtling down between the trees of the Amazon mountains in vehicle mode and turning into bot mode for battle was pretty fun.
so yeah i might buy Springer cos he's the only one I even remotely would want (for marvel reasons), shame Impactor looks so awful, dorky and undersized in comparison. And i might have considered Shockwave (also marvel) if there was a cheaper release without the backpack junk. That's why SS32 in Studio Series is quite useful for some people, cos it's the same voyager Optimus that's in the upcoming DotM Leader class set but if you don't want the trailer and all the stuff it does you at least have the cheaper option of buying SS32 instead. Still think Soundwave should have been the leader class set instead of Shockwave. A few of his cassette minions just seem a more logical choice as accessories than a goofy made up backpack.
Well yeah that was my point. All those toys were repurposed and shoved into an all new narrative that had to try make sense of all those alt-modes and some clearly just never fit well at all.
There's imagination and then there's just nonsensical bull****. I self censored cos yeah. Anyways dinnertime. 
so yeah i might buy Springer cos he's the only one I even remotely would want (for marvel reasons), shame Impactor looks so awful, dorky and undersized in comparison. And i might have considered Shockwave (also marvel) if there was a cheaper release without the backpack junk. That's why SS32 in Studio Series is quite useful for some people, cos it's the same voyager Optimus that's in the upcoming DotM Leader class set but if you don't want the trailer and all the stuff it does you at least have the cheaper option of buying SS32 instead. Still think Soundwave should have been the leader class set instead of Shockwave. A few of his cassette minions just seem a more logical choice as accessories than a goofy made up backpack.
Cobotron wrote:The only time that alt mode made absolute sense was in it's original Microchange environment.
Well yeah that was my point. All those toys were repurposed and shoved into an all new narrative that had to try make sense of all those alt-modes and some clearly just never fit well at all.
Luckily, the realm of imagination need not make sense.
There's imagination and then there's just nonsensical bull****. I self censored cos yeah.
Anyways dinnertime.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011859)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 21st, 2019 @ 2:55pm CST
Posted by Wolfman Jake on February 21st, 2019 @ 2:55pm CST
Does anyone know exactly how big Astrotrain is supposed to be in robot mode (at least according to the original Sunbow produced cartoon)? I've seen a lot of scale/size and style guides for G1 characters out there, but haven't found one that includes Astrotrain or Blitzwing along with their contemporary Decepticon comrades. I found a still of Astrotrain crowning Starscream from The Transformers: The Movie, so they look to be of about equal stature, but we all know G1 is never consistent with its scaling in the cartoon, so one scene isn't enough evidence to prove a case for whether Astrotrain should be a Voyager or Leader scaled figure.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011865)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 3:28pm CST
I'll toss this out again. If Astrotrain comes to Siege as a leader he will have armor because Hasbro likes to stick with size class gimmicks. His nekked alt mode will be a train of sorts and then it will partially transform and armor up to become a larger shuttle. We'll get some parts forming mass shifting.
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 3:28pm CST
Does it even make a difference with Siege? The two size classes are the same for the base bot.Wolfman Jake wrote:...whether Astrotrain should be a Voyager or Leader scaled figure.
I'll toss this out again. If Astrotrain comes to Siege as a leader he will have armor because Hasbro likes to stick with size class gimmicks. His nekked alt mode will be a train of sorts and then it will partially transform and armor up to become a larger shuttle. We'll get some parts forming mass shifting.
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011866)
Posted by Skritz on February 21st, 2019 @ 3:34pm CST
If that's true then this is an Astrotrain that should have been retooled into Sentinel Prime!
Posted by Skritz on February 21st, 2019 @ 3:34pm CST
carytheone wrote:Does it even make a difference with Siege? The two size classes are the same for the base bot.Wolfman Jake wrote:...whether Astrotrain should be a Voyager or Leader scaled figure.
I'll toss this out again. If Astrotrain comes to Siege as a leader he will have armor because Hasbro likes to stick with size class gimmicks. His nekked alt mode will be a train of sorts and then it will partially transform and armor up to become a larger shuttle. We'll get some parts forming mass shifting.
If that's true then this is an Astrotrain that should have been retooled into Sentinel Prime!
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011867)
Posted by Emerje on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:02pm CST
But there are no size class gimmicks in Siege. If armor was mandated then Hasbro would advertise the hell out of it every chance they had like the evolution gimmick of PotP Leaders or the Triplechanger gimmick of TR Voyagers.
As for Soundwave, he was a microcassette player even in Microchange as the line did have regular cassettes that turned into vehicles.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:02pm CST
carytheone wrote:Does it even make a difference with Siege? The two size classes are the same for the base bot.Wolfman Jake wrote:...whether Astrotrain should be a Voyager or Leader scaled figure.
I'll toss this out again. If Astrotrain comes to Siege as a leader he will have armor because Hasbro likes to stick with size class gimmicks. His nekked alt mode will be a train of sorts and then it will partially transform and armor up to become a larger shuttle. We'll get some parts forming mass shifting.
But there are no size class gimmicks in Siege. If armor was mandated then Hasbro would advertise the hell out of it every chance they had like the evolution gimmick of PotP Leaders or the Triplechanger gimmick of TR Voyagers.
As for Soundwave, he was a microcassette player even in Microchange as the line did have regular cassettes that turned into vehicles.
Emerje
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011869)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:07pm CST
That’s a gimmick that just doesn’t work for Astrotrain IMO.
I’m happy to be prove wrong of course, it’s just my opinion. I’d like to see this “armored up” gimmick used for someone else, like...Thinderclash? Eh? Or Star Saber would be awesome, and that could be an easy way for HasTak to make him combine with Galaxy Prime!
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:07pm CST
Skritz wrote:carytheone wrote:Does it even make a difference with Siege? The two size classes are the same for the base bot.Wolfman Jake wrote:...whether Astrotrain should be a Voyager or Leader scaled figure.
I'll toss this out again. If Astrotrain comes to Siege as a leader he will have armor because Hasbro likes to stick with size class gimmicks. His nekked alt mode will be a train of sorts and then it will partially transform and armor up to become a larger shuttle. We'll get some parts forming mass shifting.
If that's true then this is an Astrotrain that should have been retooled into Sentinel Prime!
That’s a gimmick that just doesn’t work for Astrotrain IMO.
I’m happy to be prove wrong of course, it’s just my opinion. I’d like to see this “armored up” gimmick used for someone else, like...Thinderclash? Eh? Or Star Saber would be awesome, and that could be an easy way for HasTak to make him combine with Galaxy Prime!
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011872)
Posted by Skritz on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:25pm CST
Posted by Skritz on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:25pm CST
At this point we're all going in circles babbling about Star Saber expecting him to show up. You know what they say about the 'definition of insanity', right? 
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011874)
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:41pm CST
Let me ask this question; before ToyFair and knowing how the current three known leader class figures work, would anyone have expected a fourth leader class figure to be any different?
Follow up; has Jetfire's size class announcement and a random voyager triple changer changed any of those expectations?
Posted by no-one on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:41pm CST
Sure there is, it's just a little looser than before. Micromasters become weapons or armor and most combine and all the leaders so far have had voyager sized base robots that armor/weapon up. I'd be shocked if any new Siege leaders don't have an armor/weapon size changing gimmick.Emerje wrote:But there are no size class gimmicks in Siege. If armor was mandated then Hasbro would advertise the hell out of it every chance they had like the evolution gimmick of PotP Leaders or the Triplechanger gimmick of TR Voyagers.carytheone wrote:Does it even make a difference with Siege? The two size classes are the same for the base bot.Wolfman Jake wrote:...whether Astrotrain should be a Voyager or Leader scaled figure.
I'll toss this out again. If Astrotrain comes to Siege as a leader he will have armor because Hasbro likes to stick with size class gimmicks. His nekked alt mode will be a train of sorts and then it will partially transform and armor up to become a larger shuttle. We'll get some parts forming mass shifting.
Emerje
I agree, I'm just basing my guess/speculation on their Prime Wars track record of forcing gimmicks on size classes. So far from what we've seen Siege is doing the same thing with the leader class.Nemesis Maximo wrote:That’s a gimmick that just doesn’t work for Astrotrain IMO.
Let me ask this question; before ToyFair and knowing how the current three known leader class figures work, would anyone have expected a fourth leader class figure to be any different?
Follow up; has Jetfire's size class announcement and a random voyager triple changer changed any of those expectations?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011875)
Posted by Skritz on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:46pm CST
Posted by Skritz on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:46pm CST
I gotta say its really weird for Astrotrain to show up when he just got a toy in Titans Return. Yes, I know this is a GEEWUN pandering line but so far, Siege hasn't really stepped on any toes of the previous lines (unless its a 'mandatory character') unless it really felt the need to give a toy/cartoon accurate update. I'd argue Astrotrain doesn't seem such a pressing matter, unless people at Hasbro felt this line really badly needed a purple 'cybertronian' steam locomotive. Not only that but Leader class seems odd for a guy like Astrotrain in terms of popularity.
Anyone else suspect he's a pretool to someone else?
Anyone else suspect he's a pretool to someone else?
Re: Official Images and Details for Siege Reveals from Toy Fair 2019 Including Barricade Description (2011876)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:49pm CST
Anyone thinking this rumored Astrotrain may actually be Commander Class and not Leader?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on February 21st, 2019 @ 4:49pm CST
Skritz wrote:I gotta say its really weird for Astrotrain to show up when he just got a toy in Titans Return. Yes, I know this is a GEEWUN pandering line but so far, Siege hasn't really stepped on any toes of the previous lines (unless its a 'mandatory character') unless it really felt the need to give a toy/cartoon accurate update. I'd argue Astrotrain doesn't seem such a pressing matter, unless people at Hasbro felt this line really badly needed a purple 'cybertronian' steam locomotive. Not only that but Leader class seems odd for a guy like Astrotrain in terms of popularity.
Anyone else suspect he's a pretool to someone else?
Anyone thinking this rumored Astrotrain may actually be Commander Class and not Leader?
