Official images of Generations Combiner Wars Optimus, Silverbolt, Alpha Bravo, Dragstrip, and more!
Saturday, November 15th, 2014 1:30AM CST
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Posted by Cobotron on November 15th, 2014 @ 1:40am CST
Even on the collector cards.
Dragstrip looks AWEZUM!
Posted by Deadput on November 15th, 2014 @ 1:48am CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on November 15th, 2014 @ 1:49am CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 15th, 2014 @ 1:52am CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on November 15th, 2014 @ 1:54am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Stupid Question but I would have to wait until wave two to complete one team? I understand why they're doing waves like this but as a reviewer it's kinda annoying.
Wave one there are three Aerialbot limbs, one stunticon limb, and two torsos (Prime and Silverbolt). There's also powerglide, but he's there for accessories. So technically wave one has 5 of 6 arielbots so either way your still missing a limb.
Due too that, it can be safe to assume wave 2 will play out as the Final Aerialbot limb, 3 Stunticon Limbs, 1(?) Torso that being Motor Master, and at least Blackjack or Acer, or whatever their legends class car buddy's named for the legends assortment for wave 2.
Posted by LE0KING on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:11am CST
Posted by Cobotron on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:12am CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well I absolutely love all of the aerialbots, especially skydive, I think that figure would make an amazing Machine Wars Megatron/Megaplex. However, I'm not to keen on Dragstrip. I don't know, I think (?) i'd like it better if Dragstrip were a chick, like the stunticon job boxset. I know it goes against the IDW canon, but still It'd be cool, I want more fembots.
You could make a little cloth skirt for him.
Change his nsme to Dragqueen.
He's kind of curvy though.
Posted by BERSEKAEL on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:13am CST
Posted by Convoy on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:28am CST
Who will everyone else be?
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:28am CST
Posted by DMSL on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:30am CST
The biggest gripe i have is that there is a helicopter in the Aerialbot team, no just no Hasbro.
Posted by Cobotron on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:30am CST
Convoy wrote:I originally thought Alpha Bravo would be a redecoed Rotorstorm limb for Bruticus. Looking at this official pic, I can easily see a simple retool into Blastoff as well.
Who will everyone else be?
Go back a few pages in the thread.
It'll be fun.
Posted by morqubus on November 15th, 2014 @ 2:49am CST
Posted by King Kuuga on November 15th, 2014 @ 3:01am CST
DMSL wrote:The biggest gripe i have is that there is a helicopter in the Aerialbot team, no just no Hasbro.
morqubus wrote:Would hate to give you a true combiner in the first wave.
It's called diversity, folks. Instead of four different color planes on the pegs, they have two planes, a helicopter, and an F1 racecar. This looks much better to everyone who isn't familiar with the G1 combiners, which is pretty much everybody in the child target audience and many of their parents. We'll probably get the final "correct" Aerialbot a few waves down the road, or as an exclusive of some sort. Also, retool/redeco potential is important. A helicopter mold can be reused for both Bruticus and Defensor, so by changing one Aerialbot's alt mode they just took care of one limb from three separate combiners. That's a good return on an investment if I ever heard one.
Posted by Lockdownhunter on November 15th, 2014 @ 3:57am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 15th, 2014 @ 5:06am CST
Posted by noctorro on November 15th, 2014 @ 6:26am CST
Getting all of these, look so awesome. Need more space here.
What's that rumour about constructicons? Trolling?
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 15th, 2014 @ 7:06am CST
That Bot wrote:Instead of four different color planes on the pegs, they have two planes, a helicopter, and an F1 racecar. This looks much better to everyone who isn't familiar with the G1 combiners, which is pretty much everybody in the child target audience and many of their parents. We'll probably get the final "correct" Aerialbot a few waves down the road, or as an exclusive of some sort. Also, retool/redeco potential is important. A helicopter mold can be reused for both Bruticus and Defensor, so by changing one Aerialbot's alt mode they just took care of one limb from three separate combiners. That's a good return on an investment if I ever heard one.
Also, how many kids could raise $85-100 to complete an entire gestalt in the time that the first wave will be on the shelf? I mean, I'd be ticked if I was scrounging from a meager allowance and lemonade sales or something, and I managed to get three of the jets, only to have them all disappear off the shelves, displaced by a set of cars, before I could get the remaining two.
Honestly, if it'd been up to me, I might have downplayed the actual set team thing, and played up the Scramble City aspect, picked 4 gestalts to do, and then released one component for each gestalt with each wave. Assuming I were willing to shuffle a few alternate modes, and characters, I'd probably plan it like:
First Quarter
Voyager
Optimus Prime (Autobot SemiTruck)
Aerialbot Silverbolt (Autobot Jet)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Fireflight (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Dragstrip (Decepticon Car)
Protectobot Blades (Autobot Helicopter)
Combaticon Brawl (Decepticon Tank)
Legion
Stunticon Blackjack (Decepticon Car)
Second Quarter
Voyager
Aerialbot Silverbolt (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Motormaster (Decepticon SemiTruck)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Alpha Bravo (Autobot Helicopter)
Stunticon Breakdown (Decepticon Truck)
Protectobot Streetwise (Autobot Car)
Combaticon Blastoff (Decepticon 'Jet')
Legion
Protectobot Groove (Autobot Motorcycle)
Third Quarter
Voyager
Stunticon Motormaster (Decepticon Semi-Truck)
Protectobot Hotspot (Autobot Firetruck)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Skydive (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Deadend (Decepticon Car)
Protectobot First-Aid (Autobot Truck)
Combaticon Vortex (Decepticon Helicopter)
Legion
Combaticon Swindle (Decepticon Truck)
Fourth Quarter
Voyager
Protectobot Hotspot (Autobot Truck)
Combaticon Onslaught (Decepticon Truck)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Air-Raid (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Wild-Rider (Decepticon Car)
Protectobot ???
Combaticon ???
Legion
Aerialbot Powerglide
Buyers could complete a hybrid gestalt with the first wave, a full Decepticon or Autobot gestalt by the second wave, and a named gestalt by the end of the year. That'd keep the shelves diverse all the way through the year with at least three characters from each faction, and at least 4 different alternate modes out there. It would also keep customers coming back with each wave.
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on November 15th, 2014 @ 7:13am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2014 @ 7:32am CST
Caelus wrote:Honestly, if it'd been up to me, I might have downplayed the actual set team thing, and played up the Scramble City aspect, picked 4 gestalts to do, and then released one component for each gestalt with each wave. Assuming I were willing to shuffle a few alternate modes, and characters, I'd probably plan it like:
First Quarter
Voyager
Optimus Prime (Autobot SemiTruck)
Aerialbot Silverbolt (Autobot Jet)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Fireflight (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Dragstrip (Decepticon Car)
Protectobot Blades (Autobot Helicopter)
Combaticon Brawl (Decepticon Tank)
Legion
Stunticon Blackjack (Decepticon Car)
Second Quarter
Voyager
Aerialbot Silverbolt (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Motormaster (Decepticon SemiTruck)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Alpha Bravo (Autobot Helicopter)
Stunticon Breakdown (Decepticon Truck)
Protectobot Streetwise (Autobot Car)
Combaticon Blastoff (Decepticon 'Jet')
Legion
Protectobot Groove (Autobot Motorcycle)
Third Quarter
Voyager
Stunticon Motormaster (Decepticon Semi-Truck)
Protectobot Hotspot (Autobot Firetruck)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Skydive (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Deadend (Decepticon Car)
Protectobot First-Aid (Autobot Truck)
Combaticon Vortex (Decepticon Helicopter)
Legion
Combaticon Swindle (Decepticon Truck)
Fourth Quarter
Voyager
Protectobot Hotspot (Autobot Truck)
Combaticon Onslaught (Decepticon Truck)
Deluxe
Aerialbot Air-Raid (Autobot Jet)
Stunticon Wild-Rider (Decepticon Car)
Protectobot ???
Combaticon ???
Legion
Aerialbot Powerglide
Buyers could complete a hybrid gestalt with the first wave, a full Decepticon or Autobot gestalt by the second wave, and a named gestalt by the end of the year. That'd keep the shelves diverse all the way through the year with at least three characters from each faction, and at least 4 different alternate modes out there. It would also keep customers coming back with each wave.
Why put those two limbs in bold in the "Accessories Class"? There's no reason to.
Posted by ScottyP on November 15th, 2014 @ 8:51am CST
Must have woken up on the wrong side of the bed today. Guess I'm just disappointed.
ZeroWolf wrote:I can see the 2016 club exclusives coming from these and botcon toys (maybe an operation: combination set )
This would be a great way to get an SG Devastator without having to pay $600 for one
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:03am CST
Posted by ScottyP on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:07am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:We would still need to get the generations devy for that at the very least there will be G2 colours.
As strong as the rumor mill is at this point, I'll be shocked if a Devastator release doesn't come to fruition. Very rare for so much noise to surface without some payoff.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:18am CST
noctorro wrote:What's that rumour about constructicons? Trolling?
Not trolling, just the latest from the rumormill:
Sabrblade wrote:Ya'll recall the Leader Ultra Magnus rumor?
Well, the latest from the rumormill is something even bigger:
$150 Titan class Devestator giftset of six Voyagers
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11810163
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11810335
This is same guy who discovered the first image of Hasbro's Masterpiece Sunstorm.
Another user (whose name we might recognize) provides further info:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... st11811202
http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/10 ... ?p=2730851
http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/10 ... ?p=2730898
Anyone hungry for a grain of salt?
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:19am CST
ScottyP wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:We would still need to get the generations devy for that at the very least there will be G2 colours.
As strong as the rumor mill is at this point, I'll be shocked if a Devastator release doesn't come to fruition. Very rare for so much noise to surface without some payoff.
Oh I agree, there's been calls for a gen 1 Devy for ages. My skeptism comes more from how we're going to get him, but we'll find out soon enough. I've said before but something like that would be prime toy show material.
Though I can also see hasbro dragging out rumours to botcon
Posted by RAcast on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:20am CST
Edit: Okay, did some quick research and apparently Alpha Bravo is an actual character... I'm still calling him Slingshot.
Posted by Cobotron on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:21am CST
The GOOD news is, next podcast should be a good one. Plenty to talk about while breaking in that new host.
Cheers!
Posted by shajaki on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:21am CST
i agree about the diversity thing. and i think its a way to promote the "mix'n match" aspect to the wee ones.That Bot wrote:It's called diversity, folks. Instead of four different color planes on the pegs, they have two planes, a helicopter, and an F1 racecar. This looks much better to everyone who isn't familiar with the G1 combiners, which is pretty much everybody in the child target audience and many of their parents. We'll probably get the final "correct" Aerialbot a few waves down the road, or as an exclusive of some sort. Also, retool/redeco potential is important. A helicopter mold can be reused for both Bruticus and Defensor, so by changing one Aerialbot's alt mode they just took care of one limb from three separate combiners. That's a good return on an investment if I ever heard one.
however, you can almost be guaranteed that the final members of each team will NOT be exclusives. since theyve already been solicited/shown to us. and that would just be cruel on a level even hasbro wouldnt go to.
Posted by ScottyP on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:28am CST
Cobotron wrote:Well, Scotty, hopefully you've had some coffee and some cartoons by now. Hope your day gets better.
The GOOD news is, next podcast should be a good one. Plenty to talk about while breaking in that new host.
Cheers!
Hehe, we already recorded the next one and guess whose Skype didn't play nice during the Combiner Wars talk? This guy. This guy's network decided to not cooperate At least I got my comic thoughts in! Really need to upgrade our technology.
Back on topic - I have had some caffeine and am slightly less irritated by these toys now. Maybe these can be a gateway back towards some semi-high end mass retail stuff.
Posted by griftimus prime on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:37am CST
Posted by Cyber Bishop on November 15th, 2014 @ 9:46am CST
Posted by Deathscythetransform on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:02am CST
Posted by RAcast on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:05am CST
Deathscythetransform wrote:I predict that the Optimus mold will be repainted/retooled into motormaster
Optimus is a retool of Motormaster.
Posted by gothsaurus on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:07am CST
During energon we only got two different molds for limbs, so this is still definitely a step up. I still hope someone — even if it is a third-party — put out a decent slingshot. He always stuck out of the crowd. I think recoloring some other teams limb is still a better option than
It looks like Hasbro is still doing a decent job, even with budget restraints, plus the fact that these have to hold up and connect…which means having to simplify and strengthen the designs. They're still not too bad.
The repaint potential is amazing, as well. I'd be down for a full set of autobot cars.
I can also see how they might use the connector ports to allow for a trailer that combines with a repainted Optimus prime. The whole thing is set up to work. That gives me hope.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:12am CST
RAcast wrote:Deathscythetransform wrote:I predict that the Optimus mold will be repainted/retooled into motormaster
Optimus is a retool of Motormaster.
Posted by jgilkinson on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:12am CST
Posted by shajaki on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:21am CST
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:29am CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:31am CST
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:You know, I just realized that Hasbro could repaint the new Stunticons as Autobots like in the G1 episode Masquerade! They already have Optimus, they could repaint Brakdown as Sideswipe, Wildrider as Windcharger, Dragstrip as Mirage, and Dead End as Jazz! That would be an awesome way to make me buy repaints with new heads!
Welcome to the party!
Posted by Madeus Prime on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:42am CST
gothsaurus wrote:i'm sure after all of the limbs are released… It will be much more clear who the intended mold was. As is, I'm pretty sure that is a repainted vortex. Maybe that off road vehicle will be swindle??? Hmmm.
His name is, actually, Offroad.
I think Alpha Bravo is more suited for a Blades repaint. I'm fine with Swindle being different looking, as long as they give him a personality filled head.
But, should they remold him into Vortex, I'd hope they remold the nosecone into a combat helicopter.
jgilkinson wrote:Kinda sad to say the only one of these figures NOT a buy on sight for me is Optimus. Not really liking the mold but the rest are darn near perfect
Same. The mold is perfect for Motormaster though, the small head, the big fists and the proportions just work perfectly for him.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:48am CST
Madeus Prime wrote:gothsaurus wrote:i'm sure after all of the limbs are released… It will be much more clear who the intended mold was. As is, I'm pretty sure that is a repainted vortex. Maybe that off road vehicle will be swindle??? Hmmm.
His name is, actually, Offroad.
I think Firefly is more suited for a Blades repaint. I'm fine with Swindle being different looking, as long as they give him a personality filled head.
But, should they remold him into Vortex, I'd hope they remold the nosecone into a combat helicopter.
People are growing a hissy fit over Alpha Bravo being a chopper and not a jet, imagine the responses when you turn Blades, a chopper, into a jet
Posted by Madeus Prime on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:51am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:gothsaurus wrote:i'm sure after all of the limbs are released… It will be much more clear who the intended mold was. As is, I'm pretty sure that is a repainted vortex. Maybe that off road vehicle will be swindle??? Hmmm.
His name is, actually, Offroad.
I think Firefly is more suited for a Blades repaint. I'm fine with Swindle being different looking, as long as they give him a personality filled head.
But, should they remold him into Vortex, I'd hope they remold the nosecone into a combat helicopter.
People are growing a hissy fit over Alpha Bravo being a chopper and not a jet, imagine the responses when you turn Blades, a chopper, into a jet
Oh heck, I meant Alpha Bravo. Dunno why I got the name Firefly stapled to that figure in my head.
Oh, and the hand/feet gimmick, really clever and cool looking.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on November 15th, 2014 @ 10:55am CST
Aw, hell yeah! Come on December!
Posted by grimdragon2001 on November 15th, 2014 @ 11:18am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 15th, 2014 @ 11:26am CST
grimdragon2001 wrote:they look good, though im probably going to get an extra Firefly and repaint him to be Slingshot. I get that these are going off IDW but I really want the G1 teams
I would be surprised if one of the other jets wasn't recoloured into slingshot for an exclusive at one point.
Here's a question, will the legends/accessories be interchangeable like the limbs? Just thought then when I realised that black Jack would fit prime
Posted by Wolfman Jake on November 15th, 2014 @ 11:30am CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on November 15th, 2014 @ 11:44am CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Caelus wrote:Legion
Protectobot Groove (Autobot Motorcycle)
Combaticon Swindle (Decepticon Truck)
Why put those two limbs in bold in the "Accessories Class"? There's no reason to.
Two reasons:
(1) You want all of the combiners to have essentially the same set of gimmicks, and you want to keep a range of Legion Class figs out there, but like Superion, Bruticus and Defensor lack anything comparable to Blackjack to be the basis for a gimmick, so you have to get a bit creative. (Piranacon and Devastator, however, have this one in the bag.)
(2) Personally, I never could stand having a Highway Patrol Motorcycle be the same size as a Huey Iroquois, or an armored jeep be the same size as a space shuttle. Granted, the size disparity between Blastoff and any of the Combaticons is comically bad, but Swindle just really rubs it into your face. Having Swindle and Groove be smaller mitigates that somewhat, and, frankly, having an arms dealer turn into a gun just sounds awesome.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 15th, 2014 @ 12:03pm CST
Posted by padfoo on November 15th, 2014 @ 12:04pm CST
Special thanks to Twitter user yak_face for the heads up!
Optimus looks good in both modes in these pics compared to the ones we have seen before. I am not a fan of the Optimus box art?
Posted by padfoo on November 15th, 2014 @ 12:08pm CST
Special thanks to Twitter user yak_face for the heads up!
And while I like Silverbolt in my opinion the universe version that came out several years ago looks better. Maybe he's just mis-transformed because he looks nothing like his box art.