Official Images - Platinum Edition Unicron with Kranix

Tyrannacon wrote:That Galvy repaint looks decent. Probably better than the first release of it. Would love to see more detailed shots, but in due time I guess.

I wouldn't mind a Unicron that's larger, but the price point might be a bit higher than anticipated since it's not using the city-mode molds I think? I know I read somewhere that Fort Max and MetroPlex use some of the same tooling/molding. Please correct me if I misunderstood or am misinformed.

Tyrannacon wrote:I wouldn't mind a Unicron that's larger, but the price point might be a bit higher than anticipated since it's not using the city-mode molds I think? I know I read somewhere that Fort Max and MetroPlex use some of the same tooling/molding. Please correct me if I misunderstood or am misinformed.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:That Galvy repaint looks decent. Probably better than the first release of it. Would love to see more detailed shots, but in due time I guess.

I wouldn't mind a Unicron that's larger, but the price point might be a bit higher than anticipated since it's not using the city-mode molds I think? I know I read somewhere that Fort Max and MetroPlex use some of the same tooling/molding. Please correct me if I misunderstood or am misinformed.

Fort Max is a heavy retool of Metroplex, yes.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:I wouldn't mind a Unicron that's larger, but the price point might be a bit higher than anticipated since it's not using the city-mode molds I think? I know I read somewhere that Fort Max and MetroPlex use some of the same tooling/molding. Please correct me if I misunderstood or am misinformed.

That's a bit of an interesting point, they are retools of each other, but that shouldn't have had an impact on the price, as Trypticon, Scorponok, and Omega Supreme are likely to be all new molds, and Dev's was also a new mold, so, clearly, being a retool did nothing but increase hasbro's profits on the Fort Max mold

Tyrannacon wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:I wouldn't mind a Unicron that's larger, but the price point might be a bit higher than anticipated since it's not using the city-mode molds I think? I know I read somewhere that Fort Max and MetroPlex use some of the same tooling/molding. Please correct me if I misunderstood or am misinformed.

That's a bit of an interesting point, they are retools of each other, but that shouldn't have had an impact on the price, as Trypticon, Scorponok, and Omega Supreme are likely to be all new molds, and Dev's was also a new mold, so, clearly, being a retool did nothing but increase hasbro's profits on the Fort Max mold

Like I said, you guys are probably more experts in this area than me here. So I yield to you guys. I just was kind of applying what I consider "common sense" to the situation here.

william-james88 wrote:Look at it this way guys, did Hasbro ever sell any seekers for less because they were reusing the same mold for several decos? Hasbro looks at a price range and makes sure that the costs work with it. If it costs them less, good for them but don expect it to cost less for you.

william-james88 wrote:Look at it this way guys, did Hasbro ever sell any seekers for less because they were reusing the same mold for several decos? Hasbro looks at a price range and makes sure that the costs work with it. If it costs them less, good for them but don expect it to cost less for you.

itscramtastic wrote:Again, the artwork from the box has sucked me in to make me want figurse I don't really need. If anyone picks up ANY of the Platinum sets and wants to sell me the boxes, I'm around!

And then there's Unicron. I just had a friend say to me the other day "I see you don't have a Unicron in your collection, did they ever make one?" I said "Yeah they did, a few variants actually." He said, "Why don't you have it?" I said, "I'm lazy."

So now I may have to get this one. I REALLY WISH they'd make one bigger than Fortress Maximus/Metroplex, like that one the 3rd party company teased on April Fool's Day.

Dang it Hasbro.

william-james88 wrote:Hasbro has a titan class now and wants to make one a year. I feel that its there they would do a new unicron (and then retool him into Primus).

durroth wrote:Did they answer the important question of whether Rod is plastic this time?

durroth wrote:Crap. So its going to be overweighted joints again

MrBlack wrote:

durroth wrote:Crap. So its going to be overweighted joints again

Well, at least it will go well with that Galvatron then. :p

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:Did they answer the important question of whether Rod is plastic this time?

I believe he was confirmed to be metal.

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:Did they answer the important question of whether Rod is plastic this time?

I believe he was confirmed to be metal.

Damn...I only ever owned the war within Optimus and it was just a flimsy mess due to die-cast. I don't need this, especially that Galvatron and especially with Titans return Rodimus coming but I did at least want to give this Rodimus a try since I never owned it and was kinda hoping he'd be without die cast.

Decepticon Stryker wrote:The Megatron and Optimus set looks cool, the Junkion set I'll most likely pass, and the group set looks really expensive... Now if only they had a Platinum edition of all the figures from season 1...

HBGoo1984 wrote:

Decepticon Stryker wrote:The Megatron and Optimus set looks cool, the Junkion set I'll most likely pass, and the group set looks really expensive... Now if only they had a Platinum edition of all the figures from season 1...

I would like to have the Autobot Heroes set just for Ultra Magnus and Arcee, but where will it be sold?

shajaki wrote:I actually like that Rodimus, but they couldn't have picked a worse angle to picture him at.

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:I actually like that Rodimus, but they couldn't have picked a worse angle to picture him at.

Oh, yes they could have.



And now I've just ruined this figure for everyone who's never experienced it before.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Tyrannacon wrote:I wouldn't mind a Unicron that's larger, but the price point might be a bit higher than anticipated since it's not using the city-mode molds I think? I know I read somewhere that Fort Max and MetroPlex use some of the same tooling/molding. Please correct me if I misunderstood or am misinformed.

That's a bit of an interesting point, they are retools of each other, but that shouldn't have had an impact on the price, as Trypticon, Scorponok, and Omega Supreme are likely to be all new molds, and Dev's was also a new mold, so, clearly, being a retool did nothing but increase hasbro's profits on the Fort Max mold

Like I said, you guys are probably more experts in this area than me here. So I yield to you guys. I just was kind of applying what I consider "common sense" to the situation here.

It's all good, you did raise a valid point, and I think a lot more people owuld have taken to Fort Max if the msrp was lower - especially since hasbro flat out stated that it's cheaper to remold a figure...

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:I actually like that Rodimus, but they couldn't have picked a worse angle to picture him at.

Oh, yes they could have.



And now I've just ruined this figure for everyone who's never experienced it before.

Kurona wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

shajaki wrote:I actually like that Rodimus, but they couldn't have picked a worse angle to picture him at.

Oh, yes they could have.



And now I've just ruined this figure for everyone who's never experienced it before.

... meh? *shrugs* I mean, the backpack's a little hollow, but... whatever.

durroth wrote:not switching to plastic doesn't make alot of sense honestly. It would have made the set cheaper to produce (you know they wouldn't lower the pricepoint, this is hasbro we're talking about), made the figure more stable, and made it so he wasn't stupidly heavy compared to galvatron.

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:not switching to plastic doesn't make alot of sense honestly. It would have made the set cheaper to produce (you know they wouldn't lower the pricepoint, this is hasbro we're talking about), made the figure more stable, and made it so he wasn't stupidly heavy compared to galvatron.

It makes perfect sense. The mold was made with diecast in mind. Switching to plastic would require re-engneering the toy to make sure that he still has the same centre of gravity and no stability issues. And die cast isnt as expensive as you think. Platinum predaking was only 100$ and has a ton of die cast.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:not switching to plastic doesn't make alot of sense honestly. It would have made the set cheaper to produce (you know they wouldn't lower the pricepoint, this is hasbro we're talking about), made the figure more stable, and made it so he wasn't stupidly heavy compared to galvatron.

It makes perfect sense. The mold was made with diecast in mind. Switching to plastic would require re-engneering the toy to make sure that he still has the same centre of gravity and no stability issues. And die cast isnt as expensive as you think. Platinum predaking was only 100$ and has a ton of die cast.

Wouldn't tolerances need to be checked and then - possibly - tweaked too?

User897 wrote:Does this mean we will FINALLY get the correct green eyes on Unicron, or are we going for a repeat of the Amazon release with green eyes on the package and red eyes on the toy?

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:wow, did not see that Rodimus pack coming. And the Unicron looks nice, but I think I am going to wait for the titan class version to come out eventually. It has to happen!

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:wow, did not see that Rodimus pack coming. And the Unicron looks nice, but I think I am going to wait for the titan class version to come out eventually. It has to happen!

Does it though? I mean, this Unicron is already so phenomenal. The only thing that isn't the best ever is the wings in robot mode, and those can be removed.

It's like the Classics Optimus. They'll be using it forever.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:wow, did not see that Rodimus pack coming. And the Unicron looks nice, but I think I am going to wait for the titan class version to come out eventually. It has to happen!

Does it though? I mean, this Unicron is already so phenomenal. The only thing that isn't the best ever is the wings in robot mode, and those can be removed.

It's like the Classics Optimus. They'll be using it forever.

Eh yeah, but I can still see a titan down the line. I mean, this mold is now like 8 inches shorter than metroplex, so I'd hope for something bigger to come along

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:wow, did not see that Rodimus pack coming. And the Unicron looks nice, but I think I am going to wait for the titan class version to come out eventually. It has to happen!

Does it though? I mean, this Unicron is already so phenomenal. The only thing that isn't the best ever is the wings in robot mode, and those can be removed.

It's like the Classics Optimus. They'll be using it forever.

Eh yeah, but I can still see a titan down the line. I mean, this mold is now like 8 inches shorter than metroplex, so I'd hope for something bigger to come along

Gonna be waiting 'til 2020 for a possibility

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:not switching to plastic doesn't make alot of sense honestly. It would have made the set cheaper to produce (you know they wouldn't lower the pricepoint, this is hasbro we're talking about), made the figure more stable, and made it so he wasn't stupidly heavy compared to galvatron.

It makes perfect sense. The mold was made with diecast in mind. Switching to plastic would require re-engneering the toy to make sure that he still has the same centre of gravity and no stability issues. And die cast isnt as expensive as you think. Platinum predaking was only 100$ and has a ton of die cast.

Wouldn't tolerances need to be checked and then - possibly - tweaked too?

Changing the material on any reissue would need work and reasearch to be done. It ends up being more costly since you are actually paying designers in the US or Japan to tweak and figure things out. Much cheaper to just give the already done schematics to a southeast asian company knowing exactly what the result will be.

MemphisR56 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:not switching to plastic doesn't make alot of sense honestly. It would have made the set cheaper to produce (you know they wouldn't lower the pricepoint, this is hasbro we're talking about), made the figure more stable, and made it so he wasn't stupidly heavy compared to galvatron.

It makes perfect sense. The mold was made with diecast in mind. Switching to plastic would require re-engneering the toy to make sure that he still has the same centre of gravity and no stability issues. And die cast isnt as expensive as you think. Platinum predaking was only 100$ and has a ton of die cast.

Wouldn't tolerances need to be checked and then - possibly - tweaked too?

Changing the material on any reissue would need work and reasearch to be done. It ends up being more costly since you are actually paying designers in the US or Japan to tweak and figure things out. Much cheaper to just give the already done schematics to a southeast asian company knowing exactly what the result will be.

Not to mention, aren't die-cast molds poured rather than injected?

They'd need to build a new set of moulds in plastic tooling rather than the die-cast mold.