Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron?

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According to a recent article on Yahoo News, there are a number of new bills in Congress to work on making the toy gun laws in the United States even more strict in many states:

"Among those 15 states, seven bills limiting fake guns are pending this year and 21 have been enacted since 1990, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Some states have enacted or are considering multiple measures. They range from prohibiting imitation firearms in vehicles to banning the toys from convenience stores.

Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection."

So will these bills become law? Will this have even more of an ill effect on the state of Re-Issue and Masterpiece Megatrons being bought and sold within the United States? Will your state be one that adopts these new proposals? Will you have to keep your Megatrons locked in a gun cabinet and have a permit to own one?

You can read the whole article here.

However, if you live in the United States and are having trouble swallowing these new toy gun law possibilities, ask any of our Australian members about their troubles with the recent Masterpiece Megatrons seized at customs --some destroyed--, and gun safety permits needed to own one. Yes, that's right ask them about having to get a weapons permit to own a Re-issue or Masterpiece Megatron.

Oh to have the innocence of the 80's back...

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Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693276)
Posted by ShGarland_1383 on May 4th, 2008 @ 7:40pm CDT

Bleh! What a pain!

On one hand, it'd serve people that would use such things in this manner right to be charged with doing so. I mean, rob the local Chevron using a toy gun, get nailed with using the toy in such a threatening manner as well as the robbery if your caught.

On the other hand, how would this screw over people like me that'd sooner keep their Classics and Henkei Megatrons in robot mode where they currently are?

Masterpiece Megatron would be a bit hard to use in a robbery as big as it is, though, wouldn't it?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693279)
Posted by soundwave13c on May 4th, 2008 @ 7:43pm CDT

thats hilarious :grin:

i would love to have a mp megatron in a gun cabinet !

but seriously its a little over bearing, especially in Australia :-x

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693281)
Posted by Zeds on May 4th, 2008 @ 7:46pm CDT

I am not going to even comment on the double standard of this whole issue, but I think that I already have. 8-}

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693283)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 4th, 2008 @ 7:50pm CDT

HEre comes another gun control thread....

So I'm just gonna say this, I had plenty of toy guns as a kid, realistic ones at that. Walked down the street with them, no big deal.

I live in a shooting heavy area, toy guns, still not an issue.

But wait, add alittle media induced paranoia, and cops get to aprehend cap gun weilders along with people on cell phones :shock:

Meanwhile, as toys (which are a true threat) become outlawed, airsoft and BB/Pellet guns go unabated!?!

I've known alot of stupid kids, not a one took an eye out with a cap gun. However I can show you some scars on the same idiots inflicted by a BB...

But as always, why look into and fight a real issue when you can make an example of a 5 yr old playing cowboys and india.... uh, Native Americans.

And people wonder why I hate the world!

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693290)
Posted by Bumblebeast on May 4th, 2008 @ 7:58pm CDT

Well, but doesn't this suddenly adds realism to the whole Transformers scene?

Megatron is now illegal. Unlawful. Chased. An outlaw.

He'll be back, and now he has reasons for revenge.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693295)
Posted by i_amtrunks on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:02pm CDT

I can tell you what's next for owning Megatron, G1 or MP..

Having to hold a gun license for him, even though he is only a replica firearm. Having to have him displayed in a secured cabinet at all times.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693296)
Posted by Zeds on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:02pm CDT

tigertracks 24 wrote:Oh to have the innocence of the 80's back...

QFT! Best statement made on this entire situation.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693299)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:07pm CDT

Bumblebeast wrote:Well, but doesn't this suddenly adds realism to the whole Transformers scene?

Megatron is now illegal. Unlawful. Chased. An outlaw.

He'll be back, and now he has reasons for revenge.

Ironic isn't it!?!

Buy the way, if no one said it Welcome, new guy buys the beer

And to Trunks...

that sucks, but I'm a good smuggler, want me to look into this?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693306)
Posted by Tekka on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:14pm CDT

Lucky for me I prefer Tank Megatron and the new Chopper Megatron. The gun mode has never done it for me. So I'll be happy regardless of what happens with gun regulations anywhere in the world.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693316)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:35pm CDT

I'm still trying to get MP-05 Megs for my B-Day, which is in one month. Will this have any effect on my plans?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693323)
Posted by leader magnus prime on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:42pm CDT

that is so dumb

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693328)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:46pm CDT

Here's a question(that I need answered) translated into US dollars, whats the actual shelf price of this item in Japan, or better yet Taiwan?

I'm sure citizens of said nations aren't at the mercy of BBTS or Ebay.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693329)
Posted by Autobot Jazz on May 4th, 2008 @ 8:52pm CDT

Well, I don't own an MP Megatorn so this dosen't affect me(yet anyway) but this sucks for all those who like to keep their Megs in alt mode(I would keep mine in robot mode though) or even take it out in public.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693339)
Posted by Counterpunch on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:04pm CDT

What?

How am I supposed to scare people when I'm angry now?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693343)
Posted by Bumblebeast on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:06pm CDT

Liege Evilmus wrote:Ironic isn't it!?!

Buy the way, if no one said it Welcome, new guy buys the beer

Thanks for the welcome, i'm going to make sure that Dispensor delivers the goods.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693367)
Posted by Sideshow Sideswipe on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:26pm CDT

Yeah way to go america pass useless wasteful laws about toy guns while I can buy a real gun anytime I want. The NRA has so much lobbying money in our politicians pockets that they have to pass BS laws like these to 'protect' the children while we have more gun violence than any other country in the world.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693370)
Posted by capellamusic on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:34pm CDT

How about if everyone moves to Japan to live there and get rid of all this BS? I hope they won't go to this amount of ridiculous in my country... if they do, Japan here I go! Maybe I'l get a job on Takara Tomy. :-?

Maybe in the future we'll also have to put orange tips in our lower parts, who knows? It's something which commits crimes... #-o

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693372)
Posted by 1337W422102 on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:37pm CDT

I have the right to bear toys.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693377)
Posted by Solrac333 on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:43pm CDT

I might as well buy a real gun and customize it into Megatron.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693380)
Posted by Solrac333 on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:45pm CDT

So if I put an orange tip on a real gun I can do whatever I want with it?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693383)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:49pm CDT

Counterpunch wrote:What?

How am I supposed to scare people when I'm angry now?

Go AirSoft, it's more realistic, needs no gayass orange tip and can actualy fire something that could mess up an eyeball!

And at a fraction of the cost of MP Megatron...

omega666 wrote:So if I put an orange tip on a real gun I can do whatever I want with it?

And aparently yes so long as you don't drive with it :grin:

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693384)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:51pm CDT

omega666 wrote:I might as well buy a real gun and customize it into Megatron.

Mock that up and I'd buy it cause realy, MP Megs is lacking.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693387)
Posted by Zeds on May 4th, 2008 @ 9:58pm CDT

1337W422102 wrote:I have the right to bear toys.

That is the second best quote on this thread so far :grin:

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693391)
Posted by Nemesis_Apoc on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:03pm CDT

I am SOOO glad I already own both of those toys.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693392)
Posted by Autobot032 on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:03pm CDT

You can blame the gun makers this time. Now they're making real handguns in your choice of colors. That certainly doesn't help matters much.

Still...I'm gonna be P.O.ed if they pull this crap and make it impossible to get my figures because of their alt modes.

Glad I got Masterpiece Megatron when I did, never know what they'll pull in the end.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693400)
Posted by Liege Evilmus on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:15pm CDT

Bumblebeast wrote:
Liege Evilmus wrote:Ironic isn't it!?!

Buy the way, if no one said it Welcome, new guy buys the beer

Thanks for the welcome, i'm going to make sure that Dispensor delivers the goods.

Well as you can see from the pics I could always use another

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=38706&p=687077#p687077

So be a pal and tap his shoulder OK!

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693403)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:19pm CDT

Wait...

tigertracks 24 wrote:Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection."[/i]

How do you use an imitation gun for hunting?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693409)
Posted by God Magnus on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:26pm CDT

Caelus wrote:Wait...

tigertracks 24 wrote:Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection."[/i]

How do you use an imitation gun for hunting?

I'm not sure, but as long as I can still hunt some tofurkeys with Megatron in Tennessee, that's all that really matters.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693416)
Posted by T-Macksimus on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:35pm CDT

Don't much care about the gun laws anyway. Out of personal preference and respect for my neighbors, all of my weapons are silent anyway. A body dropping doesn't wake most folks up but a gun-shot does.
I can't afford MP Megs now anyways and when the day comes that I can, I'll find a way to get him and gun laws be damned. If somebody gets shot by the cops using a toy gun in an attempted hold-up, good. Darwin was right! If a kid gets offed for waving a toy gun in the wrong place at the wrong time, that kids parent wasn't doing their damn job right! We don't need more laws, we need to thin the herd of all the dumbasses!! And yes, I do have kids, I care about their safety and I have also ripped them new ones for doing stupid crap in the wrong place at the wrong time and graphically explained what could happen if they are dumb enough to do it again. It sunk in!
Watermelons make great visual aids for any parents having a hard time getting a point across to a kid.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693421)
Posted by mechajol on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:41pm CDT

no doubt, another one of those autobot moves that involve manipulating human govvernments to stifle the noble decepticon cause.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693430)
Posted by olokin on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:50pm CDT

wHAT would this mean for collectors who bought their MP megs overseas? They can't bring them in stateside anymore?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693434)
Posted by muswp1 on May 4th, 2008 @ 10:56pm CDT

I'm happy that I bought my Masterpiece and Reissue Megatron's last year. This is starting to get ridiculous. Have any of these idiot lawmakers ever heard of "personal responsibility"??

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693457)
Posted by Autobot032 on May 4th, 2008 @ 11:51pm CDT

muswp1 wrote:I'm happy that I bought my Masterpiece and Reissue Megatron's last year. This is starting to get ridiculous. Have any of these idiot lawmakers ever heard of "personal responsibility"??

Do you even need to ask? Lawmakers and personal responsibility are so far at the opposite ends from one another, you'd have to spend a life time just to see them meet in the middle.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693475)
Posted by The Chopnel on May 5th, 2008 @ 12:42am CDT

Wow, that's pretty weird. And I always was under the impression that lawgivers in USA are more lenient than their counterparts on this side of the atlantic. :shock:

Guess you are now being infiltrated by some leftover socialists from here or something...

Uh...and isn't it the parents responsibility to look after their kids and what they do with their toy guns, not the governments? (:|

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693531)
Posted by Chaoslock on May 5th, 2008 @ 4:22am CDT

If you live in a country, where you can get REAL guns, you must put toy guns on banned lists so if the local cop plays target practice, he'll have the right to do so.... interesting.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693540)
Posted by Burn on May 5th, 2008 @ 5:00am CDT

muswp1 wrote:Have any of these idiot lawmakers ever heard of "personal responsibility"??

I wouldn't call them idiots. The ones that will really be behind this push will be a minority group.

Yes, they're a minority, but in things like this the majority rarely speak up in objection because they either can't be arsed, don't know how, figure it'll go away on it's own, or just don't get enough support.

So here's the thing people. Rather than sitting behind your computers logged onto this website. Get together and voice your objections to this if you're against it so much.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693618)
Posted by Kiracon on May 5th, 2008 @ 8:24am CDT

Welp, there goes paintball and water gun fights :sad:

Weilding MP Megatron has turned into Sirius Buisness

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693637)
Posted by dragons on May 5th, 2008 @ 8:51am CDT

i think there just doing it becasue hes a transformer and acutlay realistic but what the idiots out there dont realize if you buy plastic gun from walmart with orange tip on it all you need is spraycan with blackpaint in it bye bye orange tip it shouldnt be megatron it shouldbe others as well i am pssied about this i havnt even stated my master piece collectuion yet and megatron may be the only one cant get becasue of this bull s&*(^t.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693679)
Posted by shinjikun1 on May 5th, 2008 @ 10:37am CDT

Why dont they just make realistic gun toys or gun replica items 18+? I cant see a typical 10yo wanting a G1 Megatron or even a MP. Its not like hasbro/Takara will ever make a new character with a real gun alt mode, so we are really only talking about one TF character and only a couple of molds. What does that mean for TF collectors? G1 Megs and MP-05 will eventually become harder to find and obtain, but as time goes by so will all G1 molds. I mean how many times do you think we will see offical re-issues be released? The 70's and 80's were very different times and the toys this law might effect (at least in this hobby community) are a kick back to those times.

At the end of the day if you want any form of G1 Megs, just get him now, theres plenty out there in one form or another.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693696)
Posted by capellamusic on May 5th, 2008 @ 11:05am CDT

shinjikun1 wrote:Why dont they just make realistic gun toys or gun replica items 18+? I cant see a typical 10yo wanting a G1 Megatron or even a MP. Its not like hasbro/Takara will ever make a new character with a real gun alt mode, so we are really only talking about one TF character and only a couple of molds. What does that mean for TF collectors? G1 Megs and MP-05 will eventually become harder to find and obtain, but as time goes by so will all G1 molds. I mean how many times do you think we will see offical re-issues be released? The 70's and 80's were very different times and the toys this law might effect (at least in this hobby community) are a kick back to those times.

At the end of the day if you want any form of G1 Megs, just get him now, theres plenty out there in one form or another.

I second that. BTW, great sig you have

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693700)
Posted by Tigertrack on May 5th, 2008 @ 11:14am CDT

NO sense in anyone going crazy yet. Not until we get more details on what passes, and what states it involves.

Poor Australia. :-(

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (693885)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 5th, 2008 @ 3:03pm CDT

shinjikun1 wrote:Its not like hasbro/Takara will ever make a new character with a real gun alt mode, so we are really only talking about one TF character and only a couple of molds.

What about G1 Browning? He was a realistic toy gun.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694026)
Posted by shinjikun1 on May 5th, 2008 @ 5:04pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
shinjikun1 wrote:Its not like hasbro/Takara will ever make a new character with a real gun alt mode, so we are really only talking about one TF character and only a couple of molds.

What about G1 Browning? He was a realistic toy gun.

you're splittin' hairs. wasn't browning a Daiaclone? i doubt well see a Browning reissue, so i wouldn't worry about it lol

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694042)
Posted by Autobot032 on May 5th, 2008 @ 5:19pm CDT

shinjikun1 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shinjikun1 wrote:Its not like hasbro/Takara will ever make a new character with a real gun alt mode, so we are really only talking about one TF character and only a couple of molds.

What about G1 Browning? He was a realistic toy gun.

you're splittin' hairs. wasn't browning a Daiaclone? i doubt well see a Browning reissue, so i wouldn't worry about it lol

D-308 is Browning's Destron code. He was an actual TransFormers branded figure.

Yes, he was originally a Diaclone figure.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694073)
Posted by genozaur on May 5th, 2008 @ 5:50pm CDT

to hell with this shit

all i got to say to those fearmongering ba$tards on the matter is this

#uck you $hitheads with a capital #UCK

the day some #ucktard with a badge attempts to steal my perfect grade masterpiece megatron will be the day i literally take that sob on a one way trip to hell with me

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694082)
Posted by 1337W422102 on May 5th, 2008 @ 5:55pm CDT

Hmm, insinuated murder-suicide. Angst much?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694199)
Posted by Emperor Galvatron on May 5th, 2008 @ 8:21pm CDT

Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:Yeah way to go america pass useless wasteful laws about toy guns while I can buy a real gun anytime I want. The NRA has so much lobbying money in our politicians pockets that they have to pass BS laws like these to 'protect' the children while we have more gun violence than any other country in the world.

Most states require a three day waiting period for handguns and require at the very least a state criminal records check. If you're getting a handgun anytime you want, you're not buying it from a licensed dealer. It's from the trunk of some guy's car or something, ie a criminal. The majority of NRA members are law abiding citizens, not crosseyed hicks trying to overthrow the government.

Burn wrote:
muswp1 wrote:Have any of these idiot lawmakers ever heard of "personal responsibility"??

I wouldn't call them idiots. The ones that will really be behind this push will be a minority group.

Yes, they're a minority, but in things like this the majority rarely speak up in objection because they either can't be arsed, don't know how, figure it'll go away on it's own, or just don't get enough support.
So here's the thing people. Rather than sitting behind your computers logged onto this website. Get together and voice your objections to this if you're against it so much.

Or they're employed, unlike the majority of the minority groups.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694245)
Posted by Burn on May 5th, 2008 @ 9:18pm CDT

Emperor Galvatron wrote:Or they're employed, unlike the majority of the minority groups.

Knew I was missing someone out.

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694815)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 6th, 2008 @ 2:54pm CDT

If this new bill does come to pass, how will it exactly effect Mp-05 and G1 Megs? Would they be no longer allowed to be sold to U.S. customers, would each one have to have its tip painted orange, or what?

Re: Orange Tips- The First Step: What's Next For Megatron? (694827)
Posted by capellamusic on May 6th, 2008 @ 3:13pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:If this new bill does come to pass, how will it exactly effect Mp-05 and G1 Megs? Would they be no longer allowed to be sold to U.S. customers, would each one have to have its tip painted orange, or what?

Everyone will buy real guns to kill the bastards, and then kitbash the guns into diecast Megatron MPs. Or we'll all end up buying My Little Poney MPs

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