Rumoured Packaging Art for Transformers: Power of the Primes Grimlock, Starscream, Bumblebee
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Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:01am CDT
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Posted by Albatross250 on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:14am CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:Is Bumblebee going to be a TR reissue? That would explain him not showing up in the leaks.
MAN HE BETTER BE, CUZ THE INSECTICONS TOO
Posted by Albatross250 on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:18am CDT
Sjeng wrote:]
I hope Grimlock's toy is getting some more colour than that in the picture...
And his mouth better open!!
Probably an early 3D render.
Pretty much, that Grimlock is an Early 3D render.
Posted by mordhelm on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:27am CDT
Also some other points:
1. Stylistically Grimlock does not appear to match the image I remember from the leak.
2. Take a look at the official image from hasbro for Starscream. The background shows his artistic rendition. This is not even close to the image shown now.
3. As others mentioned, bumblebee has not even been hinted at in PotP.
So for me, this is Cyberverse or something else entirely.
Posted by Albatross250 on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:39am CDT
mordhelm wrote:Based on the art style and the packaging this looks more like it could be Cyberverse (as the spiritual successor to RiD). Generations have typically had darker packaging whereas RiD is lighter/whiter.
Also some other points:
1. Stylistically Grimlock does not appear to match the image I remember from the leak.
2. Take a look at the official image from hasbro for Starscream. The background shows his artistic rendition. This is not even close to the image shown now.
3. As others mentioned, bumblebee has not even been hinted at in PotP.
So for me, this is Cyberverse or something else entirely.
If its Cyberverse, then why i see some details on the background of the artwork?
Edit: Images are kinda blurry so it's very hard to see it
Posted by mordhelm on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:44am CDT
Albatross250 wrote:mordhelm wrote:Based on the art style and the packaging this looks more like it could be Cyberverse (as the spiritual successor to RiD). Generations have typically had darker packaging whereas RiD is lighter/whiter.
Also some other points:
1. Stylistically Grimlock does not appear to match the image I remember from the leak.
2. Take a look at the official image from hasbro for Starscream. The background shows his artistic rendition. This is not even close to the image shown now.
3. As others mentioned, bumblebee has not even been hinted at in PotP.
So for me, this is Cyberverse or something else entirely.
If its Cyberverse, then why i see some details on the background of the artwork?
Edit: Images are kinda blurry so it's very hard to see it
Here is what I am looking at with Starscream:
This from PotP:
Vs this from the image you found:
Pay close attention to the Starscream art in the background of the official Hasbro released image. It makes no sense that they would change Starscream that dramatically after an official released image. Chances are the faded background of the official image is what we will see.
Still, this is something newsworthy, I just don't think that this is PotP. Either way, kudos for finding it.
Posted by Albatross250 on September 1st, 2017 @ 8:47am CDT
Posted by ArmadaPrime on September 1st, 2017 @ 9:02am CDT
EDIT: then again, this does have the same blueprint detailing in the background as the previous prime wars lines. Check slightly to the right of starscream hip- based on the shape of that figures arms, I think we may have just had our first look at potp primal
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on September 1st, 2017 @ 9:19am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 1st, 2017 @ 9:43am CDT
ArmadaPrime wrote:this does have the same blueprint detailing in the background as the previous prime wars lines.
Actually, only 2 out of 3. Grimlock doesn't have the same background as Starscream or Bumblebee, so these may not all be from the same line anyway. Grimlock is the only one I would consider close to a finished product art-wise since it has the panels for the text.
I also noticed on Bee, he has shoulder headlights, which doesn't really match the Thrilling 30 or TR figures. God, I hope this doesn't mean yet another new Bumblebee Legends figure. Of course, there are numerous examples of packaging art not matching the toys, so it may also mean nothing.
Posted by Kurona on September 1st, 2017 @ 9:59am CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 1st, 2017 @ 10:40am CDT
As mordhelm says: Still, this is something newsworthy, I just don't think that this is PotP. Either way, kudos for finding it.
Posted by Albatross250 on September 1st, 2017 @ 10:46am CDT
Va'al wrote:Story has been updated to reflect the speculative nature of these being part of POTP. Thanks all!
As mordhelm says: Still, this is something newsworthy, I just don't think that this is PotP. Either way, kudos for finding it.
Thanks Va'al
Posted by william-james88 on September 1st, 2017 @ 11:32am CDT
Kurona wrote:I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.
They arent fake, they simply arent based on generations but on the new upcoming Cyberverse show coming out next year. its what will replace RID. Makes sense, we are looking at deluxe cards and they have the exact same style as what we have seen so far. Look at Bumblebee and Starscream (the tiny toy) below and you will see.
Posted by Kurona on September 1st, 2017 @ 11:37am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.
They arent fake, they simply arent based on generations but on the new upcoming Cyberverse show coming out next year. its what will replace RID. Makes sense, we are looking at deluxe cards and they have the exact same style as what we have seen so far. Look at Bumblebee and Starscream (the tiny toy) below and you will see.
They don't look like Cyberverse to me either though. Bumblebee while following a similar approach to his design considering the front of the car being on his shoulders doesn't match up to the design we see in the Busy Book -- and talking of designs matching up, it's odd that they'd use that 3D art when they've already established 2D art in that busy book. Starscream has discrepancies too, and then there's the fact that there's Generations-esque packaging in the back -- ie the sort of cross-section of early wave Transformers we saw on the box insides of Combiner Wars and Titans Return figures. Nothing about this to me implies Cyberverse and it just looks more like an elaborate hoax than anything.
Posted by william-james88 on September 1st, 2017 @ 11:53am CDT
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I hate to be that person, but these honestly look fake to me. That sort of artstyle does not match up with anything we've seen in Generations so far.
They arent fake, they simply arent based on generations but on the new upcoming Cyberverse show coming out next year. its what will replace RID. Makes sense, we are looking at deluxe cards and they have the exact same style as what we have seen so far. Look at Bumblebee and Starscream (the tiny toy) below and you will see.
They don't look like Cyberverse to me either though. Bumblebee while following a similar approach to his design considering the front of the car being on his shoulders doesn't match up to the design we see in the Busy Book
I dont see that, it matches up perfectly, including the new details on the horned helmet and the black shapes on his arms:
As for the same style rendered in 2D vs 3D, there is nothing new about that either:
Different renditions for different purposes but keeping the same design.
Posted by Kurona on September 1st, 2017 @ 11:57am CDT
That's a comic made by a different company to Hasbro that's making original art and not using pre-made stock images like toy packaging and activity books would. I'm willing to accept the series would use both 2D art and 3D art, but not because of that example -- it's a very different scenario and comparing apples to oranges.
Posted by william-james88 on September 1st, 2017 @ 12:49pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I'm seeing it now, though I still don't think that de-confirms it as fake. The big thing for me is the generations-esque packaging in the back.
That's a comic made by a different company to Hasbro that's making original art and not using pre-made stock images like toy packaging and activity books would. I'm willing to accept the series would use both 2D art and 3D art, but not because of that example -- it's a very different scenario and comparing apples to oranges.
This is probably not the case here with hasbro having both 2d and 3d renderings of the same style for different purposes, but just so you know, these activity books do have their own art sometimes. I buy these busy books for my daughter and the artwork is their own and even leads to different styles clashing. Like this shot below of Merida in 2d:
There is a very peculiar image of Pocahauntus done is a very different fashion too to go with the rest of the book but I cant find it online anywhere.
I do totally get your point of the generations style packaging but I feel its to simply better sell these toys to the 30% collector base which a majority ignored RID. In any case, AOE also had that type of packaging so its not limited to toys in the Classics line.
Also, I am rpetty certain the starscream and BB boxes are not in the same line as the grimlock box which is for a model kit. Not related to what you said, just wanted to throw it out there.
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on September 1st, 2017 @ 12:49pm CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on September 1st, 2017 @ 2:10pm CDT
Mr.MicroMaster wrote:It could also be that their model kits since Grimlock is a model kit.
Nah, the art is a bit too different, I think Grimlock is separate from Starscream and Bee.
Posted by Kurona on September 1st, 2017 @ 2:27pm CDT
Posted by TFanPage101 on September 1st, 2017 @ 2:36pm CDT
Posted by RAR on September 1st, 2017 @ 3:39pm CDT
Those could be normal Transformers card backs - but they might also be something like a toy car or some other licenced product using the generic images - that have been showing up increasingly.
Wasn't that bee on some kids sit on and ride on car too.
A set of those Busy Book figures sell on eBay for about $7.00 or you can get the whole book for $10-13 too. I'm going to get a set soon to use with my base bots.
P.S. Grimlock says "Some assembly required" - which is a bit odd.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 1st, 2017 @ 6:08pm CDT
So far, I like those designs a lot and I do hope it's own continuity.
My favorite TF cartoon so far was Prime, after Animated. RID was a total borefest so I dropped it after the Megatronus ark. Let's hope this next cartoon will be better, with amazing toys to match.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 1st, 2017 @ 9:51pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 1st, 2017 @ 10:54pm CDT
Posted by megamanfan on September 1st, 2017 @ 11:28pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 2nd, 2017 @ 4:30am CDT
-Hasbro makes a new design for Starscream based heavily upon but stylized from his G1 self for a POTP Voyager
-They ask IDW to use it ahead of time in TAAO
-They then proceed to use it in the new Cyberverse show
They want this design in everything but the Movieverse -- this is bizarre. Is this what they want Starscream's standard design to be now? Because I'm all for that; this is way cooler than the original.
Posted by Va'al on September 2nd, 2017 @ 5:52am CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 2nd, 2017 @ 6:02am CDT
Posted by Va'al on September 2nd, 2017 @ 6:21am CDT
Kurona wrote:I don't think that detracts at all -- they'd simply be using the same packaging art for multiple products. We see it all the time; like with Sideswipe here.
'Some assembly required' does not mean you need to build it. And having the same card art as the other toys suggests that it may just be a weapon or something - given that other toys that require no assembly also have the same wording.
Is what I meant.
That Grimlock art we first saw is just the front window card wraparound.
Posted by Emerje on September 2nd, 2017 @ 6:42am CDT
Va'al wrote:'Some assembly required' does not mean you need to build it. And having the same card art as the other toys suggests that it may just be a weapon or something - given that other toys that require no assembly also have the same wording.
Exactly. Most likely you have to snap the dino head onto the figure like we did TR Skullsmasher.
I'd be surprised if it were anything more than that.
Emerje
Posted by Va'al on September 2nd, 2017 @ 9:27am CDT
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Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 2nd, 2017 @ 9:30am CDT
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?
Still, look interesting enough.
Posted by Sjeng on September 2nd, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?
Still, look interesting enough.
The detail on them suggests they are veeeery small. Legion?
Not something I'll be looking out for. And with my luck, Dutch shops will be full of these instead of PotP.
Posted by Flashwave on September 2nd, 2017 @ 10:16am CDT
Sjeng wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?
Still, look interesting enough.
The detail on them suggests they are veeeery small. Legion?
Not something I'll be looking out for. And with my luck, Dutch shops will be full of these instead of PotP.
I dont know that I agree with you on that. Look at Grimmy's fist holes. If we assume those are a standard size, those look more like 5mm than the 3 that Legin used. Could totally be wrong, mind you.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 2nd, 2017 @ 10:21am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on September 2nd, 2017 @ 12:44pm CDT
Sjeng wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:That Grimlock mouth will definitely not open. Oh well.
I wonder what will be the size of these figures? Deluxes or scout?
Still, look interesting enough.
The detail on them suggests they are veeeery small. Legion?
Not something I'll be looking out for. And with my luck, Dutch shops will be full of these instead of PotP.
Its the same as the RID warriors. A Legion packaging would be too small for the instructions to be printed in the back.
Anyways, about these toys it looks like Hasbro through their arms in the air and went "Fuck it! Fans want G1 again, here's G1 again, same tranformation, same design, same fucking everything now leave us the fuck alone!"
And about that grimlock not being a model kit, yeah I can totally concede to that now but the "no tools required" is still super odd to see.
Posted by DMSL on September 2nd, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
I think that sums up how i feel about this.
Posted by william-james88 on September 2nd, 2017 @ 2:20pm CDT
DMSL wrote:That Grimlock figure.....the G1 figure is better.
I think that sums up how i feel about this.
Whats better about G1, the shinyness?
Posted by Deadput on September 2nd, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 2nd, 2017 @ 4:05pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 2nd, 2017 @ 4:38pm CDT
Like the RiD Warriors though, I hope this is only an indicator of how the line will start out and not how it will continue -- and we will instead get some awesome gems later on.
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on September 2nd, 2017 @ 6:11pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on September 2nd, 2017 @ 6:33pm CDT
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/37615/
Grimlock looks like he could be voyager sized, but quite hollow and simplified.
Posted by william-james88 on September 2nd, 2017 @ 8:19pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Is it just me or do these seem to be in the same vein as the Cyber Batallion Series. Large hollow things, with simple transformations and lower price tags.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/37615/
Grimlock looks like he could be voyager sized, but quite hollow and simplified.
Only problem with that is that I have never ever seen a carded voyager toy. I am pretty sure this will basically be the same as the simpler RID figures like Twinferno, Stormshot and Optimus Prime instead this time it will be all G1 with no new or modern characters.
Looking forward to seeing that Megatron and Starscream though.
Posted by Overcracker on September 2nd, 2017 @ 10:28pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:Is it just me or do these seem to be in the same vein as the Cyber Batallion Series. Large hollow things, with simple transformations and lower price tags.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ine/37615/
Grimlock looks like he could be voyager sized, but quite hollow and simplified.
Only problem with that is that I have never ever seen a carded voyager toy. I am pretty sure this will basically be the same as the simpler RID figures like Twinferno, Stormshot and Optimus Prime instead this time it will be all G1 with no new or modern characters.
Looking forward to seeing that Megatron and Starscream though.
That's true, can;t recall ever seeing a Voyager on a card, but there's always a first time for everything no?
Megs looks like he could be a decent toy.