Paramount Transformers 5 and Cybertronian Animated Feature Ready to Pitch, Mark Wahlberg Returning

'kay; hoping they'll be good, but not holding my breath; eagerly anticipating the figures though

I thought it had been confirmed that bay was coming back for the next one?

I mean at this point paramount are walking up to bay with a big blank cheque with a sure smile on their faces given the movies past box office takings

I'm going to hesitantly agree with you sly, a lot of people have been asking for a humanless tf movie, let's see if they'll regret it after wards.

ZeroWolf wrote:Well at least we know who's writing the fifth tf movie, though the article I read also included the rumour about prime fighting unicorn.

That one was, for now, debunked. Mark Ryan knew not what he was saying.

Is it bad that I'm looking forward to the animated feature more than the live action film? I want a movie taking place on Cybertron,

Va'al wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Well at least we know who's writing the fifth tf movie, though the article I read also included the rumour about prime fighting unicorn.

That one was, for now, debunked. Mark Ryan knew not what he was saying.

You know not what you're saying! Prime fighting Unicron is probably 'meh' at best, but Prime fighting a Unicorn? That is going to be awesome beyond words!

I swear these guys just keep thinking of new ways to screw with us... "What will really irritate the hardcore fans? More Michael Bay? Let's do that! What? We haven't destroyed their origins yet? Oooh, yes! Lets do that too! Just remember to make it as nonsensical as possible!"

Then rely on the subsequent negative press and Bay-bashing, which inadvertently promotes for them the very crap they're producing.

I wish they'd just euthanise this poorly-executed junk and start again... But considering the obscene amounts of money they're making, I consider that highly unlikely.

After Batman and Robin I despair when I see Akiva Goldsmith associated with anything.

Windsweeper wrote:After Batman and Robin I despair when I see Akiva Goldsmith associated with anything.

The movies he's written for are a bit hit and miss.

Surely he can't do any worse than the last bloke.

Didn't mark whalberg said he and bay will return from last interview he was in?

I'll wait to make any decisions, make any opinions until a story pitch is ready, filming has ended and we start to see CGI footage and spoiler alerts

Akiva Goldsman is ALSO gonna write the animated one?!? Oh, for f***'s sake! What's the point of reeling so many people for the brain trust if they'll give two to the one responsible for a movie that nearly killed super hero movies?
And come on, who are we kidding, ourselves? Bay will direct TF5 -_-
Between this and Mega Man's movie being made by Fox...I don't think I can take it

Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

Predacons Rising? Because I think it would be hard to top that.

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

OK, Mr. Condescendence, I'll bite. Which movie are you talking about?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

OK, Mr. Condescendence, I'll bite. Which movie are you talking about?

See the post right above yours.

ok, I'm a little confused now. This "Animated Prequel" that is supposed to be set in the movie universe. Is this something different than the Combiner Wars that Machimina is producing? I sincerely hope so.

There have only been three Animated films in the entire 30 year history of the Transformers. All of them have one thing in common- minimal-to-zero human involvement, and all of them are amazing! So a Movie verse prequel could still be decent. I just hope its different from CW which was supposed to be set in G1 (well I'm assuming IDW's G1 anyway).

o.supreme wrote:ok, I'm a little confused now. This "Animated Prequel" that is supposed to be set in the movie universe. Is this something different than the Combiner Wars that Machimina is producing? I sincerely hope so.

Paramount and Machinima have nothing to do with each other, TF-wise.

Machinima has nothing to do with Warner Bros. either, but Machinima still produced TV and animation for Warner. I see your point, but just wanted to be clear as this is the first I have heard of this additional animated project beyond CW that was announced at SDCC.

o.supreme wrote:Machinima has nothing to do with Warner Bros. either, but Machinima still produced TV and animation for Warner. I see your point, but just wanted to be clear as this is the first I have heard of this additional animated project beyond CW that was announced at SDCC.

Machinima's CW thing is Neo G1-based. This is Movieverse.

That's what I thought (see my earlier post), just wanted to make sure, sometimes execs get weird ideas, ya know

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

That isn't even a real movie. It's a TV special, at best.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

That isn't even a real movie. It's a TV special, at best.

A TV movie is still some kind of movie.

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

Predacons Rising? Because I think it would be hard to top that.

That was a feature length television episode! or tv movie! NOT a proper movie that you'd watch at the cinema.

The article does not specifically state that Paramounts animated prequel will be in the theaters either. Typically, unfortunately, animated films do not do well in theaters. Batman mask of the Phantasm & Star Wars the Clone wars come to mind. Both really good animated films based on popular franchises, but grossly underperformed in theaters. Paramount would be wise to make this a direct to home media animated film.

Its just something odd about the United States Culture. In Japan, almost EVERYTHING gets a theatrical release. Those dumb little Tinkerbell movies- yup, all released in the theater in Japan.

Also it could be argued that Predacons Rising could very easily have had a Theatrical release, but Hasbro, for whatever reason, chose not to. They could have very easily done a limited release like they did with MLP, and I'm sure it would have done ok. Sometimes there are movies that are made with every intent to be released in the theater, then at the last minute, it doesn't happen, doesn't mean they are any less of a film.

additionally Beast Wars II: Lio Convoy's Close Call! was only 47 minuets long, but it was released in Japanese theaters. It is shorter in length than Predacons Rising, but it had a theatrical release, so is it a film or not? I definitely count it as one.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Decepticon Sunstorm wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oh how easily this fandom forgets that we already got a fully CGI animated, humanless, Cybertron-set movie before.

Predacons Rising? Because I think it would be hard to top that.

That was a feature length television episode! or tv movie! NOT a proper movie that you'd watch at the cinema.

Both Equestria Girls movies and the Star Wars: Clone Wars movie were made with TV production levels in mind just like Predacons Rising, and yet all of those got theatrical releases. Ergo, being screened at the cinema does not solely define what is and isn't a movie.

I don't remember much about Predacons Rising. What connections does it have with Bayverse?

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't remember much about Predacons Rising. What connections does it have with Bayverse?

None. It was a TV movie to wrap up some of the loose threads leftover from Prime.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't remember much about Predacons Rising. What connections does it have with Bayverse?

Not every TF movie is Bayverse.

There are currently three Animated Transformers films in Existence:

1. Transformers: The Movie (1986) (set between seasons 2 & 3 of the original series)

2. Beast Wars II: Lio Convoy's Close Call! (1998) (set between episodes 37 & 38 of the TV Series Beast Wars II: Super Life-Form Transformers)

3. Transformers Prime Beast Hunters: Predacons Rising (2013) (set after the conclusion of the TV Series Transformers: Prime)

I'm kinda wondering though, would we see the transformers as they were when first seen in the movie, or will this have it's own style kinda like RID 2015?

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't remember much about Predacons Rising. What connections does it have with Bayverse?

Not every TF movie is Bayverse.

Well then why are we even discussing Predacons Rising? Why did you even make that condescending comment about the fandom forgetting already having a fully-CG non-human animated movie? That's why I was asking what movie you were talking about. If Predacons Rising has nothing to do with Bayverse, then why wouldn't we want a fully animated non-human TF movie taking place on Cybertron that is a prequel to the Bayverse films, like it was stated in the report?

Predacons Rising is more a "tele-movie" than an actual movie.

While it fits all definitions of a "movie", it could easily have been separated into smaller episodes. By that very definition you could re-edit (and it may have been done) Five Faces of Darkness or More than Meets The Eye into "movies".

Well that was unexpected. Well, one thing I do know is that this movie will most likely have Windblade in it. (Because Hasbro. )

o.supreme wrote:Lio Convoy's Close Call!

Ugh, that horrible English mistranslation of a name needs to die.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't remember much about Predacons Rising. What connections does it have with Bayverse?

Not every TF movie is Bayverse.

Well then why are we even discussing Predacons Rising? Why did you even make that condescending comment about the fandom forgetting already having a fully-CG non-human animated movie? That's why I was asking what movie you were talking about. If Predacons Rising has nothing to do with Bayverse, then why wouldn't we want a fully animated non-human TF movie taking place on Cybertron that is a prequel to the Bayverse films, like it was stated in the report?

People were acting like we have never ever before gotten any kind of Transformers movie that was fully animated in CGI, fully set on Cybertron, and fully devoid of humans, declaring it to be some kind of "dream come true", when such has indeed happened before regardless of it being non-Bayverse or otherwise. Transformers is Transformers is Transformers, no matter what universe it is.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Lio Convoy's Close Call!

Ugh, that horrible English mistranslation of a name needs to die.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't remember much about Predacons Rising. What connections does it have with Bayverse?

Not every TF movie is Bayverse.

Well then why are we even discussing Predacons Rising? Why did you even make that condescending comment about the fandom forgetting already having a fully-CG non-human animated movie? That's why I was asking what movie you were talking about. If Predacons Rising has nothing to do with Bayverse, then why wouldn't we want a fully animated non-human TF movie taking place on Cybertron that is a prequel to the Bayverse films, like it was stated in the report?

People were acting like we have never ever before gotten any kind of Transformers movie that was fully animated in CGI, fully set on Cybertron, and fully devoid of humans, declaring it to be some kind of "dream come true", when such has indeed happened before regardless of it being non-Bayverse or otherwise. Transformers is Transformers is Transformers, no matter what universe it is.

Personally I loved Predacons Rising WAY more than the Bayverse movies.

Aaaaaand it's possible that this supposed news might not be true at all after all - https://twitter.com/hstweetheart/status/644700406807789568

Surprise surprise but the "news" that broke about Transformers today was once again speculation.

She's one of the screenwriters involved in this "Transformers Cinematic Universe" writers group.

So really we're neither here or there regarding the next installment then

If they are doing an animated prequel I'd be happy with an animated version of the idw series where Megatron first encounters The Fallen.

I was ready to give up on the franchise after Revenge of the Fallen but that book pulled me back in.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Well that was unexpected. Well, one thing I do know is that this movie will most likely have Windblade in it. (Because Hasbro. )

As soon as AoE came out, I predicted that Windblade would be in TF 5. But she could also be in this animated prequel as well. If the Machinima animated CW is anything true to the comic, then she will have to be there by default. Yes as is classic Hasbro, we will all be sick of their newest creation because of over exposure, just in time for the next one to come along.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Lio Convoy's Close Call!

Ugh, that horrible English mistranslation of a name needs to die. ]

Sorry… Beast Wars II: Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger! Is that better? How about … Beast Wars II: Lio Convoy’s Critical Moment! I find it amusing that on Wikipedia they have the word imminent misspelled. Unfortunately unless Hasbro ever releases this film in North America (sadly doubtful), or Toei ever comes up with an official English title, it is open to all sorts of interpretation.

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Lio Convoy's Close Call!

Ugh, that horrible English mistranslation of a name needs to die. ]

Sorry… Beast Wars II: Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger! Is that better? How about … Beast Wars II: Lio Convoy’s Critical Moment! I find it amusing that on Wikipedia they have the word imminent misspelled. Unfortunately unless Hasbro ever releases this film in North America (sadly doubtful), or Toei ever comes up with an official English title, it is open to all sorts of interpretation.

*shrug* I just go with the original: "Lio Convoy Kiki Ippatsu!"

Though, the Wikipedia thing doesn't surprise me. Typical Wikipedia.

o.supreme wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Well that was unexpected. Well, one thing I do know is that this movie will most likely have Windblade in it. (Because Hasbro. )

As soon as AoE came out, I predicted that Windblade would be in TF 5. But she could also be in this animated prequel as well. If the Machinima animated CW is anything true to the comic, then she will have to be there by default. Yes as is classic Hasbro, we will all be sick of their newest creation because of over exposure, just in time for the next one to come along.

I'll take Windblade over Drift any day of the week.

JazZeke wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Well that was unexpected. Well, one thing I do know is that this movie will most likely have Windblade in it. (Because Hasbro. )

As soon as AoE came out, I predicted that Windblade would be in TF 5. But she could also be in this animated prequel as well. If the Machinima animated CW is anything true to the comic, then she will have to be there by default. Yes as is classic Hasbro, we will all be sick of their newest creation because of over exposure, just in time for the next one to come along.

I'll take Windblade over Drift any day of the week.

I'd take Sunstorm over both.

I'd still rather have windblade then a generic seeker who no one outside of those who know the DW conic series. Windblade has had a lot of exposure

JazZeke wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Well that was unexpected. Well, one thing I do know is that this movie will most likely have Windblade in it. (Because Hasbro. )

As soon as AoE came out, I predicted that Windblade would be in TF 5. But she could also be in this animated prequel as well. If the Machinima animated CW is anything true to the comic, then she will have to be there by default. Yes as is classic Hasbro, we will all be sick of their newest creation because of over exposure, just in time for the next one to come along.

I'll take Windblade over Drift any day of the week.

I personally really liked the AoE Drift. That whole robot cast fit well for me. I'd hope that if they do include Windblade, she would have a similar treatment and come out just as good

o.supreme wrote:

JazZeke wrote:I'll take Windblade over Drift any day of the week.

I'd take Sunstorm over both.

I love the character, but a bright yellow F-22 Raptor? Not very "in disguise."

Rodimus Prime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

JazZeke wrote:I'll take Windblade over Drift any day of the week.

I'd take Sunstorm over both.

I love the character, but a bright yellow F-22 Raptor? Not very "in disguise."

I think most people here are discussing use/overuse of the characters Hasbro has created, not so much their alt modes. Besides Drift and Windblade's alt modes aren't any less conspicuous.

o.supreme wrote:I think most people here are discussing use/overuse of the characters Hasbro has created, not so much their alt modes. Besides Drift and Windblade's alt modes aren't any less conspicuous.

Windblade has never been in the movies, so that doesn't apply to her. And both of Drift's alt modes are much less noticeable than a bright yellow fighter plane would be. Unless Bayverse would deviate from that and give Sunstorm a different color scheme. But then he wouldn't really feel right. Sunstorm needs that bright gold.

I was going strictly by the comics. Drift's appearance in AoE bears absolutely no resemblance to his IDW persona, either in character, on in alt mode(s). They are for all intensive purposes two completely different characters. If/When Windblade does appear in TF5, she will look and act completely different, as I would imagine Sunstorm would if he ever appeared in a live action film, though since that original character is well over a decade old, and from a portion of TF history most would like to forget (which is why It's a miracle The Fallen was ever chosen as the focus of one film) I doubt they would use Sunstorm. Gotta keep up with "the new", that's what Hasbro does.

o.supreme wrote:I was going strictly by the comics. Drift's appearance in AoE bears absolutely no resemblance to his IDW persona, either in character, on in alt mode(s). They are for all intensive purposes two completely different characters. If/When Windblade does appear in TF5, she will look and act completely different, as I would imagine Sunstorm would if he ever appeared in a live action film, though since that original character is well over a decade old, and from a portion of TF history most would like to forget (which is why It's a miracle The Fallen was ever chosen as the focus of one film) I doubt they would use Sunstorm. Gotta keep up with "the new", that's what Hasbro does.

Drift wasn't completely different. He was a samurai who valued honor and discipline above most other things. Is that unlike his character in the comics?

And Sentinel Prime was over a decade old, and so was Megatron in the first movie. The only "new" villain they've had was Lockdown.