Paramount Transformers Universe Writers' Room Adds Steven DeKnight
Tuesday, June 9th, 2015 4:21AM CDT
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There are also misreadings being posted online claiming that we are about to see at least ten new Transformers films. According to the interview with Goldsman, which we reported here, and can be found in full on Deadline here, the trust will pitch more or less a script each, making it 12 potential stories that Paramount, Michael Bay and producers can (not will) develop into the continuation of the live-action franchise. But what about you? What would you like to see on the screen? Read through the articles, and let us know your thoughts in the Energon Pub!
EXCLUSIVE: Paramount Pictures, Michael Bay, Steven Spielberg and Hasbro started its writers room to hatch Transformers sequels, spinoffs and prequels, and they’ve added the final member of the brain trust. It’s Steven DeKnight, creator of the Starz series Spartacus, and the showrunner on the first season of Marvel’s Daredevil for Netflix.
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Posted by King Kuuga on June 9th, 2015 @ 4:50am CDT
Va'al wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:NEWS
At least 12 movies penned for the TFMU
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0189043094
Yeah, no. Sigh.
Let's get an actual source, shall we..?
It's roundabout, but that Facebook page directed to a TFW article which linked to a Forbes piece which was quoting from the Deadline interview.
So it's linkception, basically.
Va'al wrote:According to the interview with Goldsman, which we reported here, and can be found in full on Deadline [url]0http://deadline.com/2015/06/transformers-akiva-goldsman-writers-room-michael-bay-paramount-1201438017/here[/url], the trust will pitch more or less a script each, making it 12 potential stories that Paramount, Michael Bay and producers can (not will) develop into the continuation of the live-action franchise.
Also, Va'al, you bungled the code a bit here. Friendly heads-up.
Posted by Va'al on June 9th, 2015 @ 5:09am CDT
And yes, that Forbes piece (opinion based on the Deadline article) was a little misleading, as the entire TFverse in movie sites have picked it up as TEN NEW FILMS. I knew I'd seen those words by Goldsman before, I'm glad I triple checked before posting that SIXTEEN NEW FILMS will be coming out.
But hey, now the internet is abuzz, and I'll keep getting notifications of the TWENTYSEVEN NEW FILMS.
Posted by Noideaforaname on June 9th, 2015 @ 9:02am CDT
But really, thanks for not jumping on the ELEVENTY NEW MOVIES bandwagon, Va'al/Seibertron.
reminds me of when a certain other site reported "Beast Hunters" as a confirmed Beast Wars sequel
Posted by joevill on June 9th, 2015 @ 9:16am CDT
Posted by Deadput on June 9th, 2015 @ 12:42pm CDT
joevill wrote:I want to see a live action remake of the original movie.
Why?
It would be boring to make the same thing but in live action and would probably be worse then the original (admit it the movie turned boring after Optimus died and they left Earth)
An HD remaster would be good just redo the animation into modern Animation and maybe add in some scenes that got in cut such as Mirage and Red Alert's death (Not like we ever saw them again after the movie)
Wouldn't have to change the story or the audio.
Posted by Optimum Supreme on June 9th, 2015 @ 5:39pm CDT
mirageandjazz1197 wrote: redo the animation
Why?
That'd be several orders of magnitude less worthwhile than redoing it as cgi/live.
I'm not saying I want to see them do a total shot for shot remake or anything, but I would definitely be interested in seeing them adapt that story for the liveverse somehow.
Posted by Convoy on June 9th, 2015 @ 10:17pm CDT
I could actually envision Hollywood remaking TF:TM.
Live action could be neat if everything wasn't Bayversified. They could almost even use all the original voices and SFX.
Pinch every penny.
I would only hope it was an adaptation of the comic of the movie.
Didn't Inception make money?
Posted by Sabrblade on June 10th, 2015 @ 1:22am CDT
At best, they'd just make him be a giant, mindless monster, moreso than most of the Decepticons have all been, what with these films being human-focused above all else. So I say better to leave him out than to do him unjustly. Otherwise, we'd probably get something like Mark Wahlberg being the one who either defeats him or holds the key to defeating him. As if Unicron being beaten by germs wasn't already humiliating enough.
Posted by Prime Riblet on July 18th, 2015 @ 5:29pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:To be honest, I don't want Unicron to be in these movies since, with as unfair as these films have already been in the portrayal of the TFs in proportion to their more seemingly favoritism-based portrayals of the humans (as a means to appeal to the general masses over just the fans), I really don't feel that these films could do him any proper justice.
At best, they'd just make him be a giant, mindless monster, moreso than most of the Decepticons have all been, what with these films being human-focused above all else. So I say better to leave him out than to do him unjustly. Otherwise, we'd probably get something like Mark Wahlberg being the one who either defeats him or holds the key to defeating him. As if Unicron being beaten by germs wasn't already humiliating enough.
I think you are right. As we get more films, the quality has continued downward, and I would prefer no more cool characters get the treatment Transformers received in the last 3 films, especially DotM and AoE. I have always been undecided whether I think the films are a good or bad thing overall, but my knee-jerk reaction to the idea of MORE characters I grew up with getting written into the current film universe makes me cringe. I have had enough. I really don't care what they decide to do from here on out. I won't support it by going to a cinema or buying toys based on the movieverse.
I also agree with what Burn and others said earlier. Expanding into spin-offs and more sequels will fail. Marvel spent a ton of time, money and thought making their system work, and it has paid off brilliantly. I don't think it is perfect, but their success is something that will NEVER be achieved by Paramount with the Transformers franchise.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on July 18th, 2015 @ 5:42pm CDT
Posted by MartianSpyGirl1996 on July 18th, 2015 @ 6:03pm CDT
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 18th, 2015 @ 6:18pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts
Wrong. Bay wanted Metroplex and Tidal Wave in ROTF. Spielberg is the one who told him not to, because the budget would be too high.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on July 18th, 2015 @ 6:31pm CDT
SlyTF1 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts
Wrong. Bay wanted Metroplex and Tidal Wave in ROTF. Spielberg is the one who told him not to, because the budget would be too high.
In the videogame of the first Bay TF movie....Metroplex was the name of the shopping mall, dunno if that would've been the same with the film, there was some concept art of an aircraft carrier TF....I guess that would've been Tidal Wave.
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 18th, 2015 @ 11:11pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:If Bay's anywhere involved....Unicron won't be in it! Although I'd love them to get the Combiners right! instead of that apelike Devastator! maybe have Metroplex, Trypticon, Omega Supreme, Grandus ect in it. AGAIN.....If Bay's anywhere involved....then obviously those characters won't appear...& expect more apelike gestalts
Wrong. Bay wanted Metroplex and Tidal Wave in ROTF. Spielberg is the one who told him not to, because the budget would be too high.
In the videogame of the first Bay TF movie....Metroplex was the name of the shopping mall, dunno if that would've been the same with the film, there was some concept art of an aircraft carrier TF....I guess that would've been Tidal Wave.
He was probably going to be the military base NEST operated in for most of the movie.
Posted by RAR on July 23rd, 2015 @ 8:38pm CDT
Posted by Stuartmaximus on July 27th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
RAR wrote:I anticipate a Gi Joe Vs Transformers Movie before the end of the decade.
hopefully before even then! as the next TF movie is in 2017
Posted by SlyTF1 on July 29th, 2015 @ 1:18am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 29th, 2015 @ 1:45am CDT
Taking a page from how a TV show is run, Paramount assembled a big group of experienced writers to help chart out the future of the Transformers film series, under the guidance of Akiva Goldsman, as the studio looks to build more of an expanded Transformers movie universe. I asked DeKnight what the experience was like taking that TV dynamic and using it in film, and he had an enthusiastic reply.
“It's that wonderful thing where features are now taking a page from television and getting people together to really try and plan things out. It was a wonderful experience. Akiva Goldsman was fantastic and Jeff Pinkner, who's co-writing the fifth [Transformers] movie with him was phenomenal. Zak Penn... It was just a room full of brilliant, funny, amazing people. And we spent two and a half weeks in physically the best writers room I've ever seen in my life. Paramount pulled out all the stops. It was phenomenal! We laughed and joked and told stories and plotted out...”
Posted by Windsweeper on July 29th, 2015 @ 5:31am CDT
How is his involvement a good thing? Bad enough Bay is still around
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 29th, 2015 @ 3:52pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:Didn't Akiva Goldsman write Batman Forever and Batman & Robin?
How is his involvement a good thing? Bad enough Bay is still around
Yeah, and Lost in Space. If he's writing TF5, maybe it'll kill the franchise like the two Batman movies did, only to be properly done 8 years later!!
Posted by YRQRM0 on July 29th, 2015 @ 4:13pm CDT
Posted by fighterknight on August 5th, 2015 @ 12:23pm CDT
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered
I'd love for a big screen adaptation of Beast Wars. I don't see it happening though. All the movies thus far have been more human centric then focusing on the Transformers themselves.
I could see it getting rebooted sooner rather then later. I think they will finish out the story they started in AoE, but then reboot it due to the writers room and wanting to make a bigger universe.
Posted by Cmdr. Trailblazer on August 8th, 2015 @ 10:16pm CDT
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on August 8th, 2015 @ 10:34pm CDT
fighterknight wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Whether it would be a good or bad film, I'd love a Beast Wars adaption regardless of if the characters are slandered
I'd love for a big screen adaptation of Beast Wars. I don't see it happening though. All the movies thus far have been more human centric then focusing on the Transformers themselves.
I could see it getting rebooted sooner rather then later. I think they will finish out the story they started in AoE, but then reboot it due to the writers room and wanting to make a bigger universe.
Me too, and I think AOE Scorn would be a perfect figure to remold into Beast Wars Megs! I actually haven't gotten Scorn because I don't really care for the AOE Dinobots, but if they remade it into Megatron then HOLY CRAP I would definitely keep my eye on it!
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 9th, 2015 @ 6:07am CDT
Cmdr. Trailblazer wrote: Also, what about the comics? Will they be tossed out the window?
Maybe they'll go all Star Wars on this! & only stories after a certain point will become Canon! & all others before....are obviously not part of the TCU(Transformers Cinematic Universe)YES! I know the original TF Movie was the exception! as it had comic tie-ins, but for the new & upcoming expanded cinematic universe!......that'll be a whole new ballgame.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 10th, 2015 @ 12:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 2:07pm CDT
I wouldn't say "nullified" so much as "ignored" or "potentially contradicted" things the comics did. All it would take would be a competent writer like John Barber to patch things up again with some more Movieverse comics, since there's still some room in the greater Movieverse timeline for such patch jobs to be done. The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.That Bot wrote:The movies have never given any regard to the comics before, I doubt they'll start now. Didn't Sabrblade say that Age of Extinction nullified a lot of the stuff the comics did that tried to explain the plot holes in the movies?
Posted by JazZeke on August 10th, 2015 @ 2:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.
Is that really so unfortunate? Is the movieverse really worth salvaging with comics?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 7:02pm CDT
Well, the Movieverse comics are probably the best Movieverse fiction there is, with several (but not all) of them being pretty cool in their own right.JazZeke wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.
Is that really so unfortunate? Is the movieverse really worth salvaging with comics?
And that a lot of them were able to fix many of the continuity and overall storytelling problems of the films was a delicious icing on the cake.
Posted by JazZeke on August 10th, 2015 @ 9:27pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, the Movieverse comics are probably the best Movieverse fiction there is, with several (but not all) of them being pretty cool in their own right.JazZeke wrote:Sabrblade wrote:The only problem with that solution is that IDW currently doesn't have any plans for further Movieverse comics to be done at this time.
Is that really so unfortunate? Is the movieverse really worth salvaging with comics?
And that a lot of them were able to fix many of the continuity and overall storytelling problems of the films was a delicious icing on the cake.
I enjoyed many of them myself, but when the comics are so busy just trying to patch continuity, story often takes a back seat.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 10th, 2015 @ 9:52pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 9:58pm CDT
Yeah, cuz CGI Maximals and Predacons in a live background is that much different that CGI Maximals and Predacons in a CGI background.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still would be pretty cool to have a live-action beast wars movie...
Don't get me wrong, I love Beast Wars, but it's because I care so much for it that I'd much rather Hollywood leave well enough alone, lest we end up with a film featuring a freakishly hideous Optimus Primal that eat bugs picked from off of his back and throws his own poop at the audience in 3D.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 10th, 2015 @ 11:07pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, cuz CGI Maximals and Predacons in a live background is that much different that CGI Maximals and Predacons in a CGI background.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still would be pretty cool to have a live-action beast wars movie...
Don't get me wrong, I love Beast Wars, but it's because I care so much for it that I'd much rather Hollywood leave well enough alone, lest we end up with a film featuring a freakishly hideous Optimus Primal that eat bugs picked from off of his back and throws his own poop at the audience in 3D.
Well, believable realistic looking looks, not necessarily live action. And personally if they got the right people they could make it a hit. I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
Posted by Sabrblade on August 10th, 2015 @ 11:53pm CDT
Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Posted by Zeedust on August 11th, 2015 @ 4:29am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, cuz CGI Maximals and Predacons in a live background is that much different that CGI Maximals and Predacons in a CGI background.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Still would be pretty cool to have a live-action beast wars movie...
Don't get me wrong, I love Beast Wars, but it's because I care so much for it that I'd much rather Hollywood leave well enough alone, lest we end up with a film featuring a freakishly hideous Optimus Primal that eat bugs picked from off of his back and throws his own poop at the audience in 3D.
Yeah, do we really want a Beast Wars movie where Cheetor can't talk? ...Wait, that's probably a bad example.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 11th, 2015 @ 8:14am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Having just read the preview, I am excited for Eukaris!
Posted by Indess on August 21st, 2015 @ 1:03am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Having just read the preview, I am excited for Eukaris!
What was your first experience with Eukaris when you came to know about it first time?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 22nd, 2015 @ 11:23am CDT
Indess wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Beast Wars: Uprising is a good modern spotlight if you ask me.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I for one would like to see our beast wars guys get a good modern spotlight
And IDW's probably got something going down with that colony world Eukaris.
Having just read the preview, I am excited for Eukaris!
What was your first experience with Eukaris when you came to know about it first time?
Eukaris was an interesting colony world and a cool take on the classic beast wars. I like that all the guys are split into tribes based on beast mode, almost like functionalism for beasts. I also liked that Tigatron and Airazor were outcasts to be with one another. I look forward to what they will do with the beasts and what kinds of characters will spring up there
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 23rd, 2015 @ 5:44am CDT
I'm sure i've mentioned this in a post before.....I'm certain that Transformers turned up in some of the comics(this is going back years ago) that were done by Marvel. & YES I know Hasbro owns the rights to Transformers! before anyone bleats on about that! & YES I know there could be a possible Transformers/GI Joe movie.
Posted by Burn on August 23rd, 2015 @ 6:29am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Any chance that we could see The Avengers popping up in any of the Transformers Cinematic Universe related material?(it doesn't just have to be the movies....it could be comic book tie-ins or even any future videogame tie-in)
Oh hell no. Not after the train wreck that was the Avengers/Transformers comic mini-series.
Besides, neither franchises need a cross-over like that. Marvel have plans for their characters for many years to come yet.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 26th, 2015 @ 3:13am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Any chance that we could see The Avengers popping up in any of the Transformers Cinematic Universe related material?(it doesn't just have to be the movies....it could be comic book tie-ins or even any future videogame tie-in)
I'm sure i've mentioned this in a post before.....I'm certain that Transformers turned up in some of the comics(this is going back years ago) that were done by Marvel. & YES I know Hasbro owns the rights to Transformers! before anyone bleats on about that! & YES I know there could be a possible Transformers/GI Joe movie.
That was back when Marvel Comics had the publishing rights. Now they belong to IDW. Plus, Paramount owns the Transformers films, and Disney owns the Marvel films. Too many deals to be made, money to be split, and if their turn on Power Rangers showed anything, it's that Disney doesn't like to share profits. And as Burn said, the MCU is planned out through 2019, and that's just the projects we know about. It ain't happening.
Posted by JazZeke on August 26th, 2015 @ 5:41pm CDT
That Bot wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:Any chance that we could see The Avengers popping up in any of the Transformers Cinematic Universe related material?(it doesn't just have to be the movies....it could be comic book tie-ins or even any future videogame tie-in)
I'm sure i've mentioned this in a post before.....I'm certain that Transformers turned up in some of the comics(this is going back years ago) that were done by Marvel. & YES I know Hasbro owns the rights to Transformers! before anyone bleats on about that! & YES I know there could be a possible Transformers/GI Joe movie.
That was back when Marvel Comics had the publishing rights. Now they belong to IDW. Plus, Paramount owns the Transformers films, and Disney owns the Marvel films. Too many deals to be made, money to be split, and if their turn on Power Rangers showed anything, it's that Disney doesn't like to share profits. And as Burn said, the MCU is planned out through 2019, and that's just the projects we know about. It ain't happening.
Nope, it was more recent than that, and it was terrible.
Posted by King Kuuga on August 27th, 2015 @ 7:25pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 27th, 2015 @ 9:10pm CDT
That Bot wrote:I stand corrected. Still no chance of a Marvel/Transformers film happening, though.
World breathes sigh of relief
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:23pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:25pm CDT
Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:35pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:38pm CDT
Erm, it's 11:38pm at night, here.Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Posted by Stuartmaximus on August 28th, 2015 @ 10:49pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Erm, it's 11:38pm at night, here.Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Ah right, sorry, it's this website, it shows your last post there at 3:38am.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 29th, 2015 @ 12:20am CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Erm, it's 11:38pm at night, here.Stuartmaximus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Been there, done that... sort of.Stuartmaximus wrote:Ok! cross Transformers with X-Men then!
Christ! what are you doing up at this time of the morning? could you not sleep either?
Ah right, sorry, it's this website, it shows your last post there at 3:38am.
It is a bit difficult to get used to different fans in different times no? Here it's 1:20am