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Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair

Transformers News: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair

Saturday, February 16th, 2019 3:41PM CST

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Once more from the showfloor of the New York Toy Fair 2019, we have new photos of several upcoming Masterpiece figures, courtesy of our wonderful Seibertron and Megatronus!

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First, we have MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron, showcasing only his robot mode, though there is still plenty to show and plenty of images to show it!

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Next, we have an unpainted sample of the most hotly debated MP in recent memory, MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0, showcasing its robot and vehicle mode from most any conceivable angle!

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Following that we have the recently revealed MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0, showcasing both its robot mode and the small Witwicky that comes packaged with it.

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Moving quickly onward is MP-20+ Wheeljack, displaying both modes, though without accessories.

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Finally, we have MP-14+ Prowl, who likewise is shown in both vehicle and robot mode without any accessories.

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Toy Fair 2019 will continue on throughout the weekend, so be sure to stay tuned to Seibertron.com for more news straight from the showfloor!

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Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2010954)
Posted by First-Aid on February 16th, 2019 @ 7:08pm CST
Am I the only one stunned by the size of MP Beast Wars Megatron? WHoa!
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2010976)
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on February 16th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CST
First-Aid wrote:Am I the only one stunned by the size of MP Beast Wars Megatron? WHoa!

I was speculating in the MP-43 thread that he’d be taller than MP-36, but it’s still a behemoth to behold beside MP-44.

Since we know MP-44 will be similar to 36 height-wise, we can see that 43 over here will be a head of two taller than both. I don’t have MP Magnus though, but I assume 43 is still going to be smaller than him?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2010993)
Posted by RobRobRobRobRob on February 16th, 2019 @ 10:14pm CST
With New York Toy Fair 2019’s first day winding down, we now have for your viewing pleasure a gallery of the various Masterpiece figures on display on the showroom floor, including MP-43 Beast Wars Megatron, MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0, MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0, MP-14+ Prowl and MP-20+ Wheeljack! All photos come courtesy of our very own Seibertron and Megatronus. Take a look here, and be sure to let us know what you think in the forums below!

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We also have a video straight from the official Seibertron YouTube channel, showcases all the above-mentioned MP’s. Be sure to take a look, for you may catch something we didn’t in the galleries!



In addition, we also have a gallery of additional Official Masterpiece images, mostly featuring MP-18+ Bluestreak, though it does include a few additional images of the aforementioned MP-45 Bumblebee 2.0 and a sneak cameo of MP-44 Optimus Prime 3.0.

Toy Fair will continue on throughout the weekend, so be sure to stay tuned to Seibertron.com for any and all Toy Fair 2019 news and images!
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011003)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on February 16th, 2019 @ 11:36pm CST
Is it just me or is it kind of odd that MP-45 has a colored proto while MP-44 does not?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011263)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 18th, 2019 @ 6:22pm CST
Beast Megatron just needs to get here already. He is gonna be one heavy mambajamba though and really bulky!
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011759)
Posted by nycPrime on February 21st, 2019 @ 6:48am CST
Via tformers.com, BBTS has a pre-order for MP Star Saber due in April. They say it's a reissue but I only see BBTS with an order page for it. And April seems rather soon. Could it just be BBTS acquired extra stock? If it's a reissue, I would expect the Japanese retailers to carry it (for cheaper).... Anytime with insight?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011777)
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:53am CST
nycPrime wrote:Via tformers.com, BBTS has a pre-order for MP Star Saber due in April. They say it's a reissue but I only see BBTS with an order page for it. And April seems rather soon. Could it just be BBTS acquired extra stock? If it's a reissue, I would expect the Japanese retailers to carry it (for cheaper).... Anytime with insight?

If you look down the page of BBTS when you search Star Saber you will see the actual Takara release (the one thats $15 cheaper). The one you found will not be released by takara nor found in Japan for cheaper. its the Chinese issue with coin. And it is available elsewhere, like at the main retailer of chinese issues, Robot Kingdom: http://www.robotkingdom.com/tftrmp24.html
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011844)
Posted by nycPrime on February 21st, 2019 @ 12:48pm CST
Cool thanks. That makes sense. That's a shame though. I was excited when I saw reissue and thought I could snag it for cheap through a Japanese store. The wait continues for me.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011856)
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 1:51pm CST
nycPrime wrote:Cool thanks. That makes sense. That's a shame though. I was excited when I saw reissue and thought I could snag it for cheap through a Japanese store. The wait continues for me.

Yeah, sorry. But hey if $126 + Shipping sounds good, there's one on the Secondary market:
https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/det ... er&lang=en
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011900)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on February 21st, 2019 @ 6:55pm CST
So I wanted to bring this thought to the table and get some other opinions on my mind process.

So I brought both of my newer MPM Bumblebees to work today and posed them together having fun, and it made me think about MP-45 and where it stands.

So we have MPM-3, which is about the size of or a bit larger than a standard G1 MP carformer. Then we have MPM-7, a bit shorter than MPM-3 and just ever so slightly smaller than a G1 MP. MPM-3 retailed online for $100, MPM-7 at $90, with MP-45 at $120.

MPM-3 has a very complex but manageable transformation that ends up representing his very complex movie self perfectly, all the way down to his wings and his back details, back, legs, and all. He only comes with his arm cannon accessory, but he doesn't really need more, his alternate face is a built in facemask.

MPM-7 is equally as complex but the bot mode isn't as accurate, though if given the time, the door wings could have been engineered to lie like they did in the movie and the wheels adjust accordingly. And his movie design was much smoother, so even if the door wings are outright removed, he's still a nearly perfect representation of himself on screen, back and all. He comes with his 2 weapons and an optional facemask, not built in, but probably better for it.

And then we come to MP-45. The front looks like he did on TV, every detail pretty much there. But it's all fake, only his toes are actually real. And the back of the legs aren't right, and neither is his back, with a new fake rear wheel thingy coming up from behind. He comes with some faces and guys and stuff too, so more accessories, but were they necessary?

So the way I see it, the MPM-3 is by far the superior all around MP figure. MPM-7 could have done much better given the benefit of another year before release, and MP-45 really needed more time. It's so hard to look at him considering they nearly killed that figure once already, and then they basically took several steps back. And that price, he is $20 more than the Bee that is twice his size and handles a far more complex look significantly better.

And we see that again with the upcoming MPM-9 Jazz: he transformers from flawless car to flawless robot, back of the robot and all. They look good/accurate from every angle, and the G1 guys aren't doing that anymore.

Heck, the G1 guys are hugely expensive and only good looking primarily from the front, while the MPMs are cheaper and good from just about every angle, and even though MPM-8 Megs is about to be $160, he is going to be huge and heavy and complex, and he's still $70 less than MP-36. And of course we have the Beast guys, who are pricey like the G1 guys but actually screen accurate like the MPMs, so a sort of compromise of the 2.

I just think that if the QC could be buttoned up, the MPMs are the better spot to be in right now. And it baffles me that the complex movie designs can be done so much better than the current G1 MP options.

Just my thoughts, would like to hear someone else's.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011914)
Posted by william-james88 on February 21st, 2019 @ 8:03pm CST
I agree that there is some weird stuff going on. I dont know how conplex mpm 8 will be, he looks really simple to me.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011959)
Posted by Cyberpath on February 22nd, 2019 @ 5:58am CST
Not sure what it's for, but the cover features MP-36 Megatron, MP-44 Optimus Prime and MP-45 Bumblebee, enjoy --

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Source: @vb_amecomi
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2011996)
Posted by Sabrblade on February 22nd, 2019 @ 10:55am CST
Cyberpath wrote:Not sure what it's for,
That's for this.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2012750)
Posted by Necromanis on February 28th, 2019 @ 2:11pm CST
Forgive me if this has already been brought up but I think one of the nicest things they've done with the MP line is continually rerelease the successful one's like MP-13 Soundwave. I couldn't afford him until the third run because I arrived late, it's cool that they did that. That said, I don't really want any other MPs at the moment, even Soundwave though I love him his deck gimmick rarely works exactly right and the MP-02 Hasbro I bought had a bubble in the eye, a gash on the leg, and the fins of the birds were so stiff Laserbeak's just peeled off in my hand, and Buzzsaw has never been touched.

My Takaras (13 and all tapes) all are in great shape though, thankfully. The bad experience with the Hasbro has made me want to focus more on G1 reissues where fewer things can go wrong and prices aren't quite as steep. I almost feel like opening one of these is a gamble, of course it's always worth more unopened but if I could have psychically seen into my Hasbro's box, I'd have left it MIB and resold it and no one would be the wiser.

Overall: Love the line, love the attention to the show (even when I was a kid I thought they should look like the show), but am hesitant to buy more as QC seems a bit iffy on what're really complex and fragile products. To be fair I'm a Soundwave and G1 Jetfire guy, so I'd probably buy those if they remolded them or something. To be honest with the Jetfire they'd have to really impress me, I'm a huge Macross/Robotech fan as well so they'd have to blow me away to look past the fact that I'll always think the original is perfect in its own right.

Cheers!
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013065)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 2nd, 2019 @ 9:28pm CST
Minus Dinobot, who is on my Beast shelf, here's a nice look at my MP collection. I have a chance here to get an MP-23 Exhaust for like $48 shipped, real thing. Really considering it cause that design is cool

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Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013513)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on March 5th, 2019 @ 12:24pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Minus Dinobot, who is on my Beast shelf, here's a nice look at my MP collection. I have a chance here to get an MP-23 Exhaust for like $48 shipped, real thing. Really considering it cause that design is cool

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Then get it. He does look cool, if you can forgive the inaccurate logo upfront, but so far, I haven't heard any complaints. Still, for 48$, it's a steal ;)
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013517)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 5th, 2019 @ 12:38pm CST
I did consider MP Star Saber myself, not too long ago. I saw a review on YouTube and liked what I saw. But, being informed by those in the know on the forum that he doesn't have the relevant tabs or connections for a potential MP Victory Leo, my limited G1 MP collection will stand with Hot Rod alone.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013522)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on March 5th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I did consider MP Star Saber myself, not too long ago. I saw a review on YouTube and liked what I saw. But, being informed by those in the know on the forum that he doesn't have the relevant tabs or connections for a potential MP Victory Leo, my limited G1 MP collection will stand with Hot Rod alone.


Didn't KFC( the toy company, not the chicken) make a Victory Leo that is compatible with Star Saber? In any case, Star Saber is one of the best Transformers Masterpiece figures ever made for the size and engineering alone. You will not be disappointed at all with him, and he's on sale at BBTS! ;)
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013524)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on March 5th, 2019 @ 1:32pm CST
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I did consider MP Star Saber myself, not too long ago. I saw a review on YouTube and liked what I saw. But, being informed by those in the know on the forum that he doesn't have the relevant tabs or connections for a potential MP Victory Leo, my limited G1 MP collection will stand with Hot Rod alone.


Didn't KFC( the toy company, not the chicken)


That made me laugh far more than it should have. :lol:

Nathaniel Prime wrote: In any case, Star Saber is one of the best Transformers Masterpiece figures ever made for the size and engineering alone. You will not be disappointed at all with him, and he's on sale at BBTS! ;)


Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I don't buy from BBTS. I once bought the Piranacon reissue giftset for about $20, a real bargain. Only to end up paying an additional £30 in Customs when it reached the UK.. As such it's not worth my while.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013576)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 5th, 2019 @ 6:12pm CST
Nathaniel Prime wrote:Then get it. He does look cool, if you can forgive the inaccurate logo upfront, but so far, I haven't heard any complaints. Still, for 48$, it's a steal ;)

Tried and couldn't, would only ship inside japan
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2013691)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on March 6th, 2019 @ 9:08am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Nathaniel Prime wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I did consider MP Star Saber myself, not too long ago. I saw a review on YouTube and liked what I saw. But, being informed by those in the know on the forum that he doesn't have the relevant tabs or connections for a potential MP Victory Leo, my limited G1 MP collection will stand with Hot Rod alone.


Didn't KFC( the toy company, not the chicken)


That made me laugh far more than it should have. :lol:

Nathaniel Prime wrote: In any case, Star Saber is one of the best Transformers Masterpiece figures ever made for the size and engineering alone. You will not be disappointed at all with him, and he's on sale at BBTS! ;)


Thanks for the heads up. Unfortunately I don't buy from BBTS. I once bought the Piranacon reissue giftset for about $20, a real bargain. Only to end up paying an additional £30 in Customs when it reached the UK.. As such it's not worth my while.


Glad I entertained you :lol:

But there are seriously a ton of people who come up to me like " But KFC makes chiken, not toys" :HEADHURTS:

It's fine if you don't want to buy from BBTS, I myself haven't bought from them either, but I may just get that Shattered Glass MP10 from there, because I don't think I can get an MP10 with a trailer for 100$ or less without going for the KO anywhere else
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018205)
Posted by Syclone on April 6th, 2019 @ 7:05pm CDT
I guess it's been a month, I'll bump this thread!

First post in 12 years hahaha!! (Though I am quite certain I had more than 34 posts from back then :lol: )

Long story short, I collected the Masterpiece line early on (MP-1, MP-3, and MP-5 (sadly)) but then life started getting in the way and that was that. BUT I've always kept an eye on the line and a few weeks ago, I bought a new book case that allowed me to bring out the old MP's and decided I would honor the occasion with a NEW Masterpiece!

After tons of research and hours of watching review videos, I decided to dip a toe back in the water with Ironhide. Always loved him and MP-27 is absolutely amazing. I don't get any of the complaints! He's so good, I couldn't help myself and immediately ordered Wheeljack and MP-36 Megatron! (my MP-5 will be going up for sale very soon. I hope someone out there actually wants to buy it haha!)

Oh my poor bank account....
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018223)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 6th, 2019 @ 10:55pm CDT
I'm actually seriously contemplating selling off most of my Masterpiece collection at this point. I could go into a long discussion about why, but I'll try to keep it down to a nice, concise, bullet point list.

- The cost of Masterpiece figures continues to rise.
- The release of new mold Masterpiece figures has slowed considerably over the past couple of years.
- It's becoming increasingly clear that some characters/figures (more minibots, combiner team members, triple changers) are either never coming out or are a long ways off, making completion of the cast a pipe dream.
- Generations figures have been stepping up substantially in quality, cost considerably less money, include almost the entire G1 cartoon cast (and then some), and are much more space efficient in a large collection.
- With the "brand unification" meaning an end to Takara Tomy alternative paint application options, and the availability of Takara Tomy "exclusive" figures like Star Convoy through Hasbro Pulse, Generations collecting for me is becoming even more affordable.

Anyone else feeling similarly?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018235)
Posted by xMXUx on April 7th, 2019 @ 4:03am CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm actually seriously contemplating selling off most of my Masterpiece collection at this point. I could go into a long discussion about why, but I'll try to keep it down to a nice, concise, bullet point list.

- The cost of Masterpiece figures continues to rise.
- The release of new mold Masterpiece figures has slowed considerably over the past couple of years.
- It's becoming increasingly clear that some characters/figures (more minibots, combiner team members, triple changers) are either never coming out or are a long ways off, making completion of the cast a pipe dream.
- Generations figures have been stepping up substantially in quality, cost considerably less money, include almost the entire G1 cartoon cast (and then some), and are much more space efficient in a large collection.
- With the "brand unification" meaning an end to Takara Tomy alternative paint application options, and the availability of Takara Tomy "exclusive" figures like Star Convoy through Hasbro Pulse, Generations collecting for me is becoming even more affordable.

Anyone else feeling similarly?


For me it's the opposite. With the brand unification and not having the Takara alternate decos which I prefered for the Generations line, there isn't much point for me to keep buying Generations figures. Especially since living in Switzerland means I'll have to import them either way as Transformers are virtually non-existant at normal retail.
So with Masterpiece releases slowing down in frequency, I nhave more time to save up for them and just focus on that. Also space is a pretty big factor for me as well, so only collecting MP is way more effective in that regard too.
If you do end up selling off your MPs, I'm sure there be lots of people interested in taking them off your hands, including me.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018237)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 7th, 2019 @ 4:17am CDT
I've expressed before that I feel quite sorry for collectors of G1 Masterpiece. As you're never going to get what you want IE a complete set of any series. The only figure I would want from G1 now is Galvatron and that is far more of a long shot than it should be.

They fob off the gullible with excuses for everything, from character selection (we thought you only liked Prime and Bumblebee? No.. too bad :P ) to hiking up the prices (the price of plastic increased 100 fold from 2018 to 2019, yet somehow the quality of it deteriorated :-? ).

Other than that, I stick to Beast Wars, for Masterpiece and the City-Bots outside of that. Beast Wars has been [initially] limited to 14 default characters and within three years we have 4/14. I'm happy with that output. As for a new Scorponok... Maybe someday.

Other than that, I don't buy anything else. So prices of individual figures are negligible as the spacing between them is acceptable.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018253)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 7th, 2019 @ 8:43am CDT
Let's talk about this guy:

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For the longest time, he was considered an "impossible" Transformer to reproduce with show accuracy. Largely because this was his toy:

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But now that it is common knowledge he is in fact, the third tallest Predacon after Megatron and Inferno, that perceived impossibility isn't so clear cut.

In terms of accessories, he would be most likely to bear pieces from his perhaps best standalone story in "Power Surge".

This:

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and this:
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To these:

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However, he isn't necessarily going to be an easy figure to replicate in both forms. As above he does have some unusual bulk to his Bot Mode IE big shoulders, whereas his Beast Mode...


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So from an engineering standpoint, while everyone remaining within the Season one cast won't require the complex wizardry of Dinobot, Terrorsaur is still the most interesting to see realised.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018381)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 8th, 2019 @ 6:55pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm actually seriously contemplating selling off most of my Masterpiece collection at this point. I could go into a long discussion about why, but I'll try to keep it down to a nice, concise, bullet point list.

- The cost of Masterpiece figures continues to rise.
- The release of new mold Masterpiece figures has slowed considerably over the past couple of years.
- It's becoming increasingly clear that some characters/figures (more minibots, combiner team members, triple changers) are either never coming out or are a long ways off, making completion of the cast a pipe dream.
- Generations figures have been stepping up substantially in quality, cost considerably less money, include almost the entire G1 cartoon cast (and then some), and are much more space efficient in a large collection.
- With the "brand unification" meaning an end to Takara Tomy alternative paint application options, and the availability of Takara Tomy "exclusive" figures like Star Convoy through Hasbro Pulse, Generations collecting for me is becoming even more affordable.

Anyone else feeling similarly?

MPs have always been a fun thing for me, not a serious collection minus the Movie ones. I have a SG one, 2 Beast ones, and 5 G1 ones in addition to the movie ones. I enjoy it, but there is definitely a reason that I do not purchase that many. I get the ones that are really cool or mean something to me. I don't think I could justify myself as a completionist for MPs.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018449)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 9th, 2019 @ 1:06am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:MPs have always been a fun thing for me, not a serious collection minus the Movie ones. I have a SG one, 2 Beast ones, and 5 G1 ones in addition to the movie ones. I enjoy it, but there is definitely a reason that I do not purchase that many. I get the ones that are really cool or mean something to me. I don't think I could justify myself as a completionist for MPs.


I've decided I can't be a completionist with Masterpiece figures either. I told my partner earlier this evening that I was planning to sell off my Masterpiece collection. He balked and begged me to at least spare a few of his favorite characters.

I decided that I'd downsize my collection first and see how that feels before deciding if I want to give up on it entirely. I'm going to sell off any Masterpiece figures that don't represent either an original run toy. So, all of the retool/repaints made of G1 figures for eHobby (Clamp Down, Tiger Track, Road Rage, etc.) are out, along with anything that's an original Diaclone homage that was skipped over in G1 (like Cordon, Loudpedal, and the like). There are still a few oddities, like Red Body Bumblebee, which technically was a G1 figure, but I have no sentimental attachment to it and no need for it, honestly. With Beast Wars, I'm sticking to the cartoon cast. For the Masterpiece Movie figures, I'm not collecting them at all. The Studio Series is enough for me for that section of the franchise.

Now my difficulty is in deciding between MP-10 and MP-44 for Optimus Prime and MP-21 and MP-45 Bumblebee. Knowing that the line is getting more and more cartoon accurate, should I hold on to the more realistic amalgamations of real world vehicles and cartoon aesthetics, or go all in on the Sunbow bandwagon?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2018562)
Posted by Syclone on April 9th, 2019 @ 6:49pm CDT
I thought about this post a lot on my way to work today haha.

I ONLY collect G1 Masterpiece. While I have enjoyed watching other Transformers series over the years, I only have a real, true, nostalgic affinity for G1 when it comes to the toys (read: spending $100+ on a plastic shelf decoration).

I am playing a lot of catch-up right now but, in theory, it seems that G1 averages around 1 figure a year (give or take, of course). ASSUMING (and that is a HUGE assumption given the design and pricing of Bumblebee 2.0) the figures are worth the coin, that's a pretty easy pill to swallow (New versions of Optimus Prime aside!) I spend $120 a year for a Netflix subscription, it's the same as 1 G1 Masterpiece a year.

There's also a finite number of figures I want and I do hope they get to them all eventually (Kup, Arcee, Galvatron, the sweeps, an insecticon or 2) but when they're done with them all, I'd be able to sleep easy. And if they left G1 behind all together, I guess I had my fun.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2019871)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 25th, 2019 @ 7:08pm CDT
Been a bit quiet in here lately, so a few MP related questions.

Since we now know the next 6 coming MPs (Hound, Prime, Bee, Blackarachnia, Megatron and Jazz), what do we think will be next after them for each of the 3 different categories of MP?

For me, I'm hoping for the following:

G1: Trailbreaker - my favorite TF needs his MP, like yesteryear
BW: Rattrap - I'm thinking this guys cause another small BW MP might be nice beside Blackarachnia. I'm thinking Rhinox might be the more logical one next, spread out the big and small ones.
MPM: Ratchet or Bonecrusher - Ratchet to complete the cast, Bonecrusher cause he's my favorite.

Your thoughts?

Another question:

If you could only own a single MP figure from each of the 3 categories, which one would it be and why?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2019880)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 25th, 2019 @ 8:16pm CDT
If I'm recalling old rumors correctly, the next MPM should be Brawl, and I believe it was said by one of the MP designers that both Blaster and Trailbreaker are currently in development.


As for BWMP, I still expect a Tigatron repaint from Cheetor.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2019881)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 25th, 2019 @ 8:24pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:If I'm recalling old rumors correctly, the next MPM should be Brawl, and I believe it was said by one of the MP designers that both Blaster and Trailbreaker are currently in development.


As for BWMP, I still expect a Tigatron repaint from Cheetor.

Really? Brawl is a weird choice to me to be next. I would think Blackout or Starscream would come before him honestly.

Trailbreaker better be in development, I feel like we've heard that rumor for 2+ years now
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2019917)
Posted by Syclone on April 26th, 2019 @ 8:12am CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
Ironhidensh wrote:If I'm recalling old rumors correctly, the next MPM should be Brawl, and I believe it was said by one of the MP designers that both Blaster and Trailbreaker are currently in development.


As for BWMP, I still expect a Tigatron repaint from Cheetor.

Really? Brawl is a weird choice to me to be next. I would think Blackout or Starscream would come before him honestly.

Trailbreaker better be in development, I feel like we've heard that rumor for 2+ years now


Agreed we've heard that rumor for a long time but how many shots of a seemingly complete Hound have we seen with no official release date yet? :lol:
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020011)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on April 28th, 2019 @ 10:31am CDT
MP Tigatron, for Show accuracy, can't just be a simple repaint this time though. Nor can MP Tarantulas. Both have to at least, be upscaled equivalents of their counterparts and the proportions of their Beast Modes have to be substantially different.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020044)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 28th, 2019 @ 8:42pm CDT
I think Tarantulas and Tigatron will share engineering, but they are much bulkier than their currently coming or released mold mates from lines past, so I expect a total reshell or just that shared engineering
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020051)
Posted by Ironhidensh on April 28th, 2019 @ 9:31pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I think Tarantulas and Tigatron will share engineering, but they are much bulkier than their currently coming or released mold mates from lines past, so I expect a total reshell or just that shared engineering



It would be nice, and I hope I'm wrong, but I would be shocked nearly to death it Tigatron is anything other than a Cheetor repaint with slight retooling on beast head.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020052)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on April 28th, 2019 @ 9:34pm CDT
Two G1 Masterpiece figures coming out later this year are redoes of characters that have already had a release (or two) in the Masterpiece line. We're also getting another "anime accurate" redeco, this time for Bluestreak. Is there any character right now that's safe from getting a whole new mold or an animation redeco?

For instance, are the likes of Masterpiece Ironhide and Ratchet "good enough" for Takra Tomy in terms of looking like the cartoon? They don't, say, have optional "simplified" front ends like Inferno and Grapple, with non-chromed, less detailed bumpers and headlights and Sunbow Autobot symbols.

What about Red Alert? I know he was the first to get the "MP+" treatment with a new carton deco, but that doesn't fix basing his robot mode almost directly off the Sideswipe animation model and not the Red Alert model, which is far more akin to the actual toy than Sideswipe model is. Sticking fake tires on the shoulders isn't enough. He needs the doors hanging off beside his arms.

I know a lot of people actually want a redo of Tracks. Heck, even Soundwave could be up for a "+" redeco, making his blue plastic lighter and omitting some of the toy sticker detailing paint apps. Then you have oddballs like Skywarp who are mostly right, but have strange little details like his pin striped wrists.

I would have thought years ago that Takara Tomy would have declared MP-10 Optimus Prime "good enough" if not "perfect," maybe with a cartoon inspired redeco at the most, but with the third version of Masterpiece Optimus Prime on the horizon, I have to wonder, when does the target of "perfection" stop moving?
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Posted by sol magnus on April 30th, 2019 @ 2:44pm CDT
Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm actually seriously contemplating selling off most of my Masterpiece collection at this point. I could go into a long discussion about why, but I'll try to keep it down to a nice, concise, bullet point list.

- The cost of Masterpiece figures continues to rise.
- The release of new mold Masterpiece figures has slowed considerably over the past couple of years.
- It's becoming increasingly clear that some characters/figures (more minibots, combiner team members, triple changers) are either never coming out or are a long ways off, making completion of the cast a pipe dream.
- Generations figures have been stepping up substantially in quality, cost considerably less money, include almost the entire G1 cartoon cast (and then some), and are much more space efficient in a large collection.
- With the "brand unification" meaning an end to Takara Tomy alternative paint application options, and the availability of Takara Tomy "exclusive" figures like Star Convoy through Hasbro Pulse, Generations collecting for me is becoming even more affordable.

Anyone else feeling similarly?

Your reasoning echoes in mine, but I have to sell most of them for other reasons, too. I think my last will be MP-44 to compliment MP-36 (who I'm keeping, 'no matter the cost')
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Posted by Blackalekthor on May 5th, 2019 @ 9:43pm CDT
Hello dear Bots. I'm planning to buy my first Masterpiece figure, so I'm in need of your wisdom.

What's the best online site to make a purchase? (Shipping internationally), and better, What's the best site to pre-order the beautiful BlackWidow MP-46 when the time arrives?

Thank you so much for your help.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020632)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2019 @ 6:32am CDT
So listings have now pushed MP Hound back to after Blackarachnia... What is going on with this figure :???:
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020635)
Posted by william-james88 on May 6th, 2019 @ 8:18am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So listings have now pushed MP Hound back to after Blackarachnia... What is going on with this figure :???:

Didnt we know that for a few months now?

Also, to answer the post above, the best website to preorder MP figures at is Amazon Japan.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020643)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2019 @ 10:13am CDT
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So listings have now pushed MP Hound back to after Blackarachnia... What is going on with this figure :???:

Didnt we know that for a few months now?



Perhaps, but just seeing the next batch: MP 44 - Overpriced Prime, MP 45 - Bumblebee 2.0, MP 46 - Blackarachnia and MP 47 - Hound.

I thought to myself, the last time they showed off pictures of Hound, he looked ready. Certainly further along than the grey prototype of Blackarachnia. So what is the story here?
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020644)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 6th, 2019 @ 10:15am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:So listings have now pushed MP Hound back to after Blackarachnia... What is going on with this figure :???:

Didnt we know that for a few months now?



Perhaps, but just seeing the next batch: MP 44 - Overpriced Prime, MP 45 - Bumblebee 2.0, MP 46 - Blackarachnia and MP 47 - Hound.

I thought to myself, the last time they showed off pictures of Hound, he looked ready. Certainly further along than the grey prototype of Blackarachnia. So what is the story here?
*shrugs* Ladies first? Hound is a gentleman, after all. :P
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020646)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on May 6th, 2019 @ 10:20am CDT
:lol: Indeed.

I'm pretty sure he was shown of way before Bumble 2.0 was too, alas Hound didn't have a movie to fleece >:oP
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020716)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 6th, 2019 @ 6:44pm CDT
At the rate they're going, Hound will be MP-50
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020723)
Posted by Ironhidensh on May 6th, 2019 @ 7:18pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:At the rate they're going, Hound will be MP-50



Issa sum bulllsheet.
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020804)
Posted by Nemesis Destron on May 7th, 2019 @ 3:47pm CDT
I was scouring on eBay to see what MP-10SG is going for. So I'm sorry if this is an overkill question but what is the current count of this favored MP-10 mold? :???: Thanks in advance party people. :VEHI:
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020811)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on May 7th, 2019 @ 7:00pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:I was scouring on eBay to see what MP-10SG is going for. So I'm sorry if this is an overkill question but what is the current count of this favored MP-10 mold? :???: Thanks in advance party people. :VEHI:


Now, I assume you mean the Shattered Glass version of MP-10. BBTS is selling that for $99.99 brand new, so anything above that is overpriced IMO

Here'sa link to the BBTS page for reference
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2020825)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on May 7th, 2019 @ 7:47pm CDT
Blackalekthor wrote:Hello dear Bots. I'm planning to buy my first Masterpiece figure, so I'm in need of your wisdom.

What's the best online site to make a purchase? (Shipping internationally), and better, What's the best site to pre-order the beautiful BlackWidow MP-46 when the time arrives?

Thank you so much for your help.

I would have to say that Amazon Japan is your best bet. Great prices, fast shipping, and the shipping is really cheap too. That would be where I would go.

And welcome!
Re: Photos of MP- 45 Bumblebee, MP-44 Optimus Prime, and more! #TFNY #hasbrotoyfair (2021230)
Posted by sol magnus on May 11th, 2019 @ 1:59pm CDT
Ironhidensh wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:At the rate they're going, Hound will be MP-50



Issa sum bulllsheet.


It's definitely odd that a fully painted prototype has been shown before other things and yet he keeps getting pushed back. Maybe there's a production issue.

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