Pictoral Review of Takara MP-32 Beast Convoy

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This is such a gorgeous looking Primal

It's a shame that he cost so much for how big he is, though I'm still going to get him. Hopefully we'll get a BW Megs announcement soon!

Mine has arrived in the country finally, and is going through customs.


As for price that's going to depend on where you buy it. I paid $86 bucks plus $23 shipping. All in all less than the $119.99 that BBTS and TFSource are asking for it before shipping.

$86 is not really bad for this type of figure.

119 on the other hand is a bit steep.

Not sure it will linger as Tracks has, and get knocked down to $40 bucks any time soon, but it may be put on sale if they don't sell all that well.

Mine arrived this afternoon, UK time, excellent figure.

http://reinahw.deviantart.com/art/Primal-Time-643393206

Overcracker wrote:Mine has arrived in the country finally, and is going through customs.


As for price that's going to depend on where you buy it. I paid $86 bucks plus $23 shipping. All in all less than the $119.99 that BBTS and TFSource are asking for it before shipping.

$86 is not really bad for this type of figure.

119 on the other hand is a bit steep.

Not sure it will linger as Tracks has, and get knocked down to $40 bucks any time soon, but it may be put on sale if they don't sell all that well.

Leaders sell very well. I dont foresee him going the way of Tracks, which only happened to Tracks (and roadrage).

I used Anime Export and my Primal was $81 + $13 shipping making it a total of $94. Keeping score, that is at least 20% less than US retailers, and thats before you include the extra shipping cost.

20-30$ here and there adds up over time and helps me buy more

william-james88 wrote:Leaders sell very well. I dont foresee him going the way of Tracks, which only happened to Tracks (and roadrage).

I used Anime Export and my Primal was $81 + $13 shipping making it a total of $94. Keeping score, that is at least 20% less than US retailers, and thats before you include the extra shipping cost.

20-30$ here and there adds up over time and helps me buy more

Leaders do sell well, but surprisingly, love for Beastwars is not as abundant as G1, and considering even MP Ultra Magnus is still hanging around U.S. online retailers, I'm not sure how fast Primal is going to sell out.

I hope he sells well enough for Takara to at least gives an MP Megatron.

The generation that grew up with BW, unfortunately seems to be less nostalgic than G1-ers are for G1.

Overcracker wrote:The generation that grew up with BW, unfortunately seems to be less nostalgic than G1-ers are for G1.

No, we just tend to get drowned out by all the G1 lovers. As does pretty much the entire rest of the franchise.

Insurgent wrote:

Overcracker wrote:The generation that grew up with BW, unfortunately seems to be less nostalgic than G1-ers are for G1.

No, we just tend to get drowned out by all the G1 lovers. As does pretty much the entire rest of the franchise.

Yeah, the people who grew up on G1 had at least seven years' worth of product to get nostalgic over (with one of those years itself being preying of the nostalgia of the earliest G1 years), along with an additional three or four years of G2 riding off of G1's popularity, whereas Beast Wars only got 4 years' worth of product, with a few stragglers in 2000-2001.

I was just going to ignore that. But no. I won't.


My point is, the other series have just as much dedicated fans being nostalgic over it. But G1 overrides everything, especially lately with this new design team. Before, we got a nice mix of all series in generations. Cybertron re-releases. New BW guys. New Armada Hot shot. But now it's all G1.


Just look at Hasbro's offerings for the two anniversarries this year. G1 gets multiple platinum sets for the movie. Homages out thw wazoo. BW is barely mentioned, with only one year of the monkey release of a beast machines toy that was released in rid, and even THAT is done up in G1 colours!



I really don't give a flying monkeys backside (pun intended) if G1 had twice as many years of running. What? Because they made the comics run longer, we're suppossed to ignore all other series in favour of it? I like the titans returns/combiner wars and so on, but come on dude. At least let other series shine in their own freaking anniversarry year. It's like G1 is that old guy in the public square shouting for attention and everyone keeps listening to him, despite the fact there are more coherant people trying to make valid points not five metres away.


At least we have this wonderful figure from Takara.

Insurgent wrote:I was just going to ignore that. But no. I won't.

But I was agreeing with you.

Insurgent wrote:My point is, the other series have just as much dedicated fans being nostalgic over it. But G1 overrides everything, especially lately with this new design team.

And I was trying to make my point build upon your point, as G1's longer run gave it a longer window of opportunity to gather up more followers than Beast Wars's shorter-by-comparison run did.

Insurgent wrote:Before, we got a nice mix of all series in generations. Cybertron re-releases. New BW guys. New Armada Hot shot. But now it's all G1.

You mean in points besides the two "brand anniversary"-themed years of 2009 and 2014? Cuz outside of those two years, all the Classics-style lines have been predominately themed around 1980s G1 reimaginings, WFC, FOC, or IDW G1.

Insurgent wrote:I really don't give a flying monkeys backside (pun intended) if G1 had twice as many years of running. What? Because they made the comics run longer, we're suppossed to ignore all other series in favour of it?

Erm, I was a talking about the G1 toyline, not the media.

This pic is awesome!

Sabrblade wrote:

Insurgent wrote:I was just going to ignore that. But no. I won't.

But I was agreeing with you.

Insurgent wrote:My point is, the other series have just as much dedicated fans being nostalgic over it. But G1 overrides everything, especially lately with this new design team.

And I was trying to make my point build upon your point, as G1's longer run gave it a longer window of opportunity to gather up more followers than Beast Wars's shorter-by-comparison run did.

Insurgent wrote:Before, we got a nice mix of all series in generations. Cybertron re-releases. New BW guys. New Armada Hot shot. But now it's all G1.

You mean in points besides the two "brand anniversary"-themed years of 2009 and 2014? Cuz outside of those two years, all the Classics-style lines have been predominately themed around 1980s G1 reimaginings, WFC, FOC, or IDW G1.

Insurgent wrote:I really don't give a flying monkeys backside (pun intended) if G1 had twice as many years of running. What? Because they made the comics run longer, we're suppossed to ignore all other series in favour of it?

Erm, I was a talking about the G1 toyline, not the media.

I'd like to add in this discussion. Insurgent more or less want's more variety/focus on other toylines and not just G1. Yet nearly everything TF out there is/has a G1 reference or a re-imagining of a G1 product.

Why?

Business decisions today , well hopefully in both sides of the Pacific follow more than just gut or nostalgia. Metadata collection, buying and discussion patterns, feed back from the web/net etc etc.

Or Takara knows something we don't or they just decide using dart boards or gut feelings in Starsaber's case, it was from a poll (so there must have been some scientific method to their choice of project/product). Supposedly, MP Tracks sold poorly for online retailers (but Takara more or less got rid of their entire inventory)

Is it always successful? Maybe.If you use Tracks as an example, online retailers were supposedly stuck with a lot of unsold inventory. Maybe they'll be giving Takara a feedback to chose their projects wisely in the future...maybe the Corvette license was just dirt cheap.

That being said, there must be indeed a method to this madness when choosing a particular character (seems like G1 is a sure/safe bet with regards to Takara's MP series ) and the BW is more like a trial balloon. Primal looks to have sold out online wise (Japan retailers) But his a "Convoy" and he always sells. Cheetas on the other hand.........

Insurgent, I like your passion but don't get too flustered over this, Beast Wars will forever be known as what saved the entire Transformers Brand as well as being the foundation for modern Transformers articulation. G1 started it, but it is Beast Wars that saved it. For me, both those lines are the cornerstones that have made it so that we have this wonderful hobby still around today

fenrir72 wrote: Primal looks to have sold out online wise (Japan retailers)

How many did you check? He is still readily available at HLJ and Nippon Yassan, maybe more but those are the only ones I checked so far.

http://hlj.com/product/TKT86177

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/16 ... -wars.html

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote: Primal looks to have sold out online wise (Japan retailers)

How many did you check? He is still readily available at HLJ and Nippon Yassan, maybe more but those are the only ones I checked so far.

http://hlj.com/product/TKT86177

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/16 ... -wars.html

And from Amazon Japan, which can now, shock of all shocks, finally ship toys directly to the U.S.!!!

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote: Primal looks to have sold out online wise (Japan retailers)

How many did you check? He is still readily available at HLJ and Nippon Yassan, maybe more but those are the only ones I checked so far.

http://hlj.com/product/TKT86177

https://www.nippon-yasan.com/figures/16 ... -wars.html

"Looks" to have sold out.Emphasis on "looks" You can measure that later if by your example Tracks, a certain product gets sold off at a massive sale from retail price to discount.

As Beast Convoy was just released, the 1st stocks are all gone especially at hobbysearch and Amiami. These are best gauges in sellability because you do't have to put up any cash first and they get sold out.

IH sold well because it was given a second release in both Japan and Asia

At hlj, a good place to search as a last resort, despite their SRP being a bit lower than hobbysearch, doesn't always sell out.......must be the name of the store that also factors in.

fenrir72 wrote:At hlj, a good place to search as a last resort, despite their SRP being a bit lower than hobbysearch, doesn't always sell out.......must be the name of the store that also factors in.

Now you've got me curious, what does HLJ's name (or repuration) have going against it? I thought they were one fo the most trusted places in Japan and have an excellent track record. They've been around for a longtime too.

Sabrblade wrote:And from Amazon Japan, which can now, shock of all shocks, finally ship toys directly to the U.S.!!!

Whoa Sabr, when did this happen?
This legit across the board on imports??
If so, this opens up a lot of doors.

triKlops wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:And from Amazon Japan, which can now, shock of all shocks, finally ship toys directly to the U.S.!!!

Whoa Sabr, when did this happen?
This legit across the board on imports??
If so, this opens up a lot of doors.

I just found out today.