Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Wednesday, June 27th, 2018 11:43pm CDT

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This toy has been found in the US for a few weeks now but has yet to reach saturation. And while there are several video reviews out there for this bad boy, there are several aspects of his that I wanted to address since they took me a bit by surprise.

Firstly, people have been saying from day one that he was a BIG voyager. But I was always curious about how big he really was, since he is often paired up with Studio Series Optimus, who is the smallest voyager Optimus Prime figure we have ever gotten so far (for any line). Well it turns out he is indeed big. He dwarfs the previous Revenge of the Fallen Megatron mold, as well as any voyager movie mold I paired him with. He is even a head taller than Power of the Primes Hun Gurrr who is himself a decently sized voyager (as are any voyagers from the Prime Wars Trilogy).

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

So that's a major plus. He does look better than the previous ROTF voyager not only thanks to the lack of a backpack but also since he can pose better and stand more upright. His left "hand" is actually split so the elongated fingers don't have to be oriented the same way all the time.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Also, while he does not have the great paint job of the movie the best version (which is next to him in the previous images) his paint job is serviceable. I like the highlights they make in a gunmetal grey as well as the gold on the chest. The legs are beautifully painted too. Basically, it looks good... from the front.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

And that is where the main problem lies. This toy being so big comes at the cost of him being hollow. Now that transformation scheme can work and it has given us some incredible transformations before, like Prime First Edition Bulkhead. But here it is quite easy to see thanks to the gaping hole on his side.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

The other problem with viewing from he side is the head. He seems to have no neck if you lay the head flat against the body but while you can stretch it up, it ends up looking odd at the sides.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

He also ends up feeling very light. Now that is partly due to some of the plastic used. I hear the expression "feels like a KO" thrown around a lot and most of the time, it is undeserving. This figure as a whole does not feel like a KO (a lot of work went into this guy), but some of the plastic used is the very rigid yet light plastic we find on cheap KOs (like the oversized Prime Abominus toys). It isn't used a lot, but we can see it mainly on the biceps with the big mushroom peg. It's the kind of plastic that leaves a big seam to show the separate mold halves.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Speaking of pegs an biceps, there is one aspect of this toy that is really odd and it's the right shoulder joint. Now most toys have the bicep move along the shoulder, but here the shoulder separates in half so you end up seeing the toy's innards when moving the shoulder for any pose you might want to do. Only happens on the right side with the left side being more traditional.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

My other gripe is the feet, they are just a mess. Both the right and left side have some obvious kibble hanging there. The panels do not look at all like the are a part of the foot, they just look like there was nowhere else to put them, which is too bad because there could have been some decent integration if they could peg and be more flush with the rest of the foot.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

The Transformation to alt mode is more complex than I would have imagined for a toy which just looks like a pile of scrap on alt mode. I would have called the transformation fun if pieces didn't easily pop off. The reverse kneecaps (so in the back of the leg) come off easily. So much so that I lost one of them and have been doing this whole review with only one of them. Bet you didn't notice! There is also an issue with the panels that cover the thighs. They hold fine but because the movable hinge they are stuck to offers ridiculous resistance, they will also pop off when transforming.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

In alt mode, the toy is fine. It looks incredibly different from the voyager. It has a completely different shape where instead of being on the wide side, it is on the long side, closer to the recent live action Batmobile. Definitely sleeker than before. There are no wings of any kind, which I am told is not accurate to what we see in the film and that turns out to be true.

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

Transformers News: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron

But honestly, I don't care. The robot mode is far more iconic to the film than the alt mode is, and if I had to freeze frame a clip just to make sure it was inaccurate I think its safe to say that it is not something I would have known off hand. My bigger issue is the giant claw hand sticks out in the back so it looks like this tank has a bad case of hemorrhoids. I will say that the original ROTF voyager Megatron mold rolls much better than this one. Maybe I have the treads misaligned but mine does not roll at all. In the end, I like this sleeker tank and I really like those twin guns it has at the side.

I do like this toy even though I never liked the alt mode but I do wish pieces did not fall off. The robot mode is awesome enough, just don't turn it to the side.


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Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967318)
Posted by Cyrano on June 28th, 2018 @ 12:37am CDT
Thanks for putting in the effort to do this, I always get a lot more out of photo reviews than video. This guy seems pretty competently done overall and is certainly a better film likeness than the previous efforts, but for once I don't think that's an advantage. I find the old green crabtank voyager a lot more interesting and satisfying, almost charming. The face on that one is pretty hard to beat. All the same, I'm really glad that this exists for those that have pined for a film accurate version.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967349)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 28th, 2018 @ 4:31am CDT
Now if only my Laval TrU would bother getting new stock....
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967350)
Posted by Bucky on June 28th, 2018 @ 4:52am CDT
Don’t know how long they’ll last, but SS Brawl and Megatron are both on Amazon for regular retail price of $29.99 each, with release dates for July 3rd and 5th respectively.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967375)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 28th, 2018 @ 9:29am CDT
Had Megatron for weeks now and I really enjoy it. Heck, I barely even notice the hollowness anymore (I sometimes have the guns positioned downwards under the arms anyways and there's many other TF figures that are somewhat hollow from the sides... many movie Bumblebees tend to be) and never even noticed any issue with the neck or feet that you point out. The only thing that does bug me about the feet is the little grey wheels used for rolling in tank mode. I'll probably paint them black sometime soon so they ain't as noticable. The rear knee pieces had come off a couple times when I first got him but they were easily fixed. I really like the tank mode too. Definitely one of my fave non-realistic tank forms of any TF. Overall I found this figure to be a lot of fun. :) Would have been nice to have the metallic paintjob but I guess it couldn't fit in the figure's allocated budget like it did for little Jazz.

(that Hun-grr looks kinda bad... though I had the old G1 figure and suppose that's what an update would probably look like but he was never a particularly good looking design in either mode. The Terrorcons in general were ugly things so I never bothered to get the rest of the team at the time. That Drift reminds me how random and bizarre making him a triple changer was cos no toy can seemingly reproduce it all in one)

Studio Series Optimus, who is the smallest voyager Optimus Prime figure we have ever gotten so far (for any line).


I got a DotM Voyager Optimus Prime in charity shop a couple weeks ago and he's a tiny smidge shorter than Studio Prime and noticablly smaller in the torso (really odd proportions...I don't know what they were thinking with that one).
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967442)
Posted by CobraKai on June 28th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CDT
Great pictorial review. I agree this is much better than a 30-40 minute video of you tubers listening to themselves talk. More please.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967490)
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on June 28th, 2018 @ 10:16pm CDT
I just got SS Brawl from a fellow collector. I wasn't going to buy him, but he was cheap. Glad I did, because he's really pretty cool.

Blows away the Deluxe, for sure. Some say he's better than the Leader. I have to disagree, but the SS is pretty cool all around.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967496)
Posted by william-james88 on June 28th, 2018 @ 10:51pm CDT
Cyrano wrote:Thanks for putting in the effort to do this, I always get a lot more out of photo reviews than video.


CobraKai wrote:Great pictorial review. I agree this is much better than a 30-40 minute video of you tubers listening to themselves talk. More please.


This is very kind of you. I do these because I myself much preffer pictorial reviews. And I dont see them around much anymore. I ony do them when I have something to say for a new product and this year Canada hasnt gotten stuff first so I am usually too late to the party. Wasnt sure if Megatron was too late or not. Would you guys like me to do Brawl?
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967501)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 28th, 2018 @ 11:14pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Would you guys like me to do Brawl?

Yes ;)^

I will read any figure you review
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967502)
Posted by william-james88 on June 28th, 2018 @ 11:25pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Would you guys like me to do Brawl?

Yes ;)^

I will read any figure you review

That is most kind, thank you.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967610)
Posted by galvatron00 on June 29th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
@Carnivus Prime: Those videos you posted were awesome!! Subscribed to that channel now, thanks!

@WJ88: Excellent write up!! I suggest creating a thread of your own just for that. Go through all the bots ever, I'll read all of them!! ;)^ :APPLAUSE:
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967633)
Posted by william-james88 on June 29th, 2018 @ 3:10pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:@Carnivus Prime: Those videos you posted were awesome!! Subscribed to that channel now, thanks!

@WJ88: Excellent write up!! I suggest creating a thread of your own just for that. Go through all the bots ever, I'll read all of them!! ;)^ :APPLAUSE:

Thanks but its quite a bit of work and I dont have the time with my babies to take care of. So it will only be the one off here and there. Thanks for the encouragement though, I culd do more when I have the time.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967635)
Posted by galvatron00 on June 29th, 2018 @ 3:12pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:@Carnivus Prime: Those videos you posted were awesome!! Subscribed to that channel now, thanks!

@WJ88: Excellent write up!! I suggest creating a thread of your own just for that. Go through all the bots ever, I'll read all of them!! ;)^ :APPLAUSE:
Thanks but its quite a bit of work and I dont have the time with my babies to take care of. So it will only be the one off here and there. Thanks for the encouragement though, I culd do more when I have the time.
Oh I totally get it, I'm just mentioning the audience is definitely there!

Also, Studio Series Starscream is my new favorite not Walmart MP Starscream Starscream figure. If that makes sense. :lol:
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967683)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on June 30th, 2018 @ 2:08am CDT
itscramtastic wrote:@Carnivus Prime: Those videos you posted were awesome!! Subscribed to that channel now, thanks!


They really are. I wish there were more but of course that kind of thing is extremely time-consuming and I'm amazed at the skill and patience of those that make them. :)
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967700)
Posted by galvatron00 on June 30th, 2018 @ 7:24am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:
itscramtastic wrote:@Carnivus Prime: Those videos you posted were awesome!! Subscribed to that channel now, thanks!
They really are. I wish there were more but of course that kind of thing is extremely time-consuming and I'm amazed at the skill and patience of those that make them. :)
It’s pretty wild. Stop motion is always awesome to me ;)^
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1967883)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on July 1st, 2018 @ 3:53am CDT
BBTS just put up preorders for Studio Series Jazz and Lockdown for $22 apiece if anyone's interested! They've also had Brawl and Megatron up for a bit now.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1968056)
Posted by william-james88 on July 2nd, 2018 @ 12:04am CDT
As with the previously reviewed Studio Series Megatron figure, this toy has been found for a little while in the US and other parts of the world. However, these wave 2 voyagers are seldom discussed and have yet to reach saturation. It seems people are on the fence, especially due to them being a heftier price tag in certain areas. I personally think Brawl is a great figure and thanks to some encouraging comments, I took some images to show you more of the figure in detail in this new pictorial review.

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Brawl comes with two accessories that he can either hold in his hands or have tabbed to his sides.

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While Megatron was one of the biggest voyagers we have ever gotten from Hasbro, Brawl is more average. This is by no means a negative, and below are several comparisons to show you where he would fit on a size chart for this line.

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While Megatron did have a previous voyager class toy to compare him to, Brawl had a deluxe and a leader, but no voyager. While the deluxe was not a bad figure at the time, this feels like a completely different character almost. The backpack of the original deluxe is almost gone. It is a very impressive transformation especially since a the alt mode and robot mode do not share a lot o common detailing and yet we still get minimal kibble in either mode. I do prefer the head sculpt of the previous deluxe. While the new one may be more accurate, I did like the deluxe looked more streamlined, almost like what you would expect from a "classics" rendition of Brawl. Taking the transformation into effect, the deluxe basically becomes that in general by comparison.

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He has great sculpting as well, in areas that probably would not need it regularly. It's like you can see the inner mechanical workings of the robot. The paint is well distributed as well and brings out some cool details. As with Megatron, some of the plastic used here does feel cheaper than the rest and with it being coloured green it really reminds me of that cheap army man plastic. We see it on the tank cannons and launchers.

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Since a lot of the tank panels "disappear" in robot mode, a big struggle with Brawl in the past has been to collapse them somewhat. The leader went a little overboard with many panels overlaying themselves to the point of it looking a little ridiculous.

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But this new voyager does it so efficiently, it feels like it is crazy for them to have ever been envisioned any other way.

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His transformation may be the my favourite new Transformation from the Studio Series line. He is intuitive but has some fun tricks like the previously mentioned legs. It's impressive that the lean mean killing machine robot becomes such a brickish tank. I love how there is less of a visible head syndrome than the previous leader and deluxe. My only issue with the tank mode is that the hands are visible, but it seems more of a problem of execution than design since they part they create should not be elevated. Great looking tank though, especially thanks to the great paint job on the camo deco.

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Comparisons to the deluxe.

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And you can stick the accessories on the tank too.

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My only issue is how odd the shoulders look when compared to the massive forearms, but I don't have that many issues, especially since that specific issue fades away when you start posing him. So, good looking tank, nice robot mode, fun and original transformation for a realistic tanks Transformers. I call this one a winner.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1968060)
Posted by william-james88 on July 2nd, 2018 @ 12:10am CDT
Carnivius_Prime wrote:I got a DotM Voyager Optimus Prime in charity shop a couple weeks ago and he's a tiny smidge shorter than Studio Prime


NOPE

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DOTM Voyager Prime is a small voyager, but not as short as SS Prime

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Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1968062)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 2nd, 2018 @ 12:18am CDT
Re: Megatron's tank mode and the wings... Basically, Josh Nizzi designed it with both a ground mode (which is what the Studio Series toy models) and a G1 Tracks-style flight mode with fold-out wings (these can be seen fairly clearly when Megatron flies to the Nemesis, and when he flies off after shooting Sam). However, careful watching of Megatron's transformation and driving after the foundry fight reveals that for whatever reason the ILM animators left the wings deployed even when rendering the tank driving on the ground. He definitely captures the look otherwise, does the best job of all of them at capturing the tank's proportions and includes the targeting sensors (the two smaller barrels) omitted by previous toys. He just doesn't have the retractable wings, which is a shame. I guess that was beyond either the price point limits or beyond the level of complexity they were willing to go for. Oh well. He's a gorgeous figure otherwise (I fall under the category of those who don't mind the torso gaps. Still want to see him photographed next to Cybertron Megatron or Galvatron, since that mold has a similar torso gap but still looks damn fine)

As for Studio Series Megs' big size... Has anyone stood him next to a Unicron Trilogy Voyager like Vector Prime? That'd be the real test.

And as for Studio Series Optimus being a small Voyager, is he smaller than Classics Voyager Optimus?

You can get a good look at Nizzi's designs and drafts for ROTF Megs here, if that helps:
http://www.joshnizzi.com/portfolio/tf2/

william-james88 wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: And AoE Drift isn't exactly much better. Thank gods for the TLK redesigns - I suspect the artists not wanting to be murdered in their beds by the toy designers was a factor there.


I dont get it, TLK Drift is far worse than AOE Drift. At least the toy designers were able to have his robo chest detail come from the actual front of the car. For TLK, they just said **** it and used nothing of the car, leaving it as a massive loose shell sticking out his backside.

I was referring to the movie design itself with Drift, not the toy designs. His TLK design seemed to have abandoned the helicopter mode and made his car kibble more prominent. I may have been imagining it, but even after checking pictures on the wiki it still seems that way to me. A shame it hasn't actually resulted in better toys... oh well.
At least Megatron's new decidedly-less-BS design has resulted in good toys for him.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1968080)
Posted by Evil Eye on July 2nd, 2018 @ 3:47am CDT
Brawl looks good! I'll definitely get him if I can. I do still want the Deluxe/Small Brawl (Smol Brol?) even if I end up making a new, female head for the mold and having her as my OC Ironsides (AKA "Asuka as a Transformer with an even worse attitude and a really bad German accent).

I will say my singular complaint with him, from what I can see, is the lack of a rotating turret, though the fact the secondary turret can rotate is cool. Still, looks awesome and I do want him. Tanks are neat and it's always good to see more.
Re: Pictorial Review for Transformers Studio Series Revenge of the Fallen Megatron (1968094)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 2nd, 2018 @ 4:52am CDT
If that would be your asuka...who would be your shinji?

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